HomeMy WebLinkAboutNatural Resources Advisory Board - Minutes - 05/05/1999MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
281 N. COLLEGE
May 5,1999
For Reference: Phil Murphy, NRAB Chair -
491-6303
Bill Bertschy, Council Liaison -
484-0181
Susie Gordon, Staff Liaison -
221-6265
Board Members Present
Phil Friedman, Randy Fischer, Kelly Ohlson,
Phil Murphy, Bill Miller, Nate Donovan, Reagan Waskom
Board Members Absent
Don Rodriguez, Rick Harness
Staff Present
Natural Resources Dent Terry Klahn, Susie Gordon, Tom Shoemaker
Transportation: Tom Frazier
Guests
Sally Craig, Planning and Zoning Board
Agenda Review
Miller: Discuss interest in a joint meeting with the Larimer County EAR
Miller: Provide feedback on the Strengthening Board Effectiveness Seminar.
Ohlson: Request a memo to Council regarding proper trail placement as trails are
repaired/replaced due to flood damage.
Committee Reports
Solid Waste Committee: There was a meeting with the trash haulers April 29. Only one
of the six companies, S&S Sanitation, attended. Went through the list of brainstorm
ideas formulated at the initial meeting. Susie Gordon will provide an update at the May
19 meeting on the "interim" solid waste reduction plan.
Horticulture Site Selection Committee: Randy Fischer said he has heard there is serious
consideration being given to Ross Open Space as a potential site, and added that if this is
true it needs to be nipped in the bud as quickly as possible. Susie Gordon said Jim Clark
asked her to hold the memo to Council, as negotiations with CSU are still pretty
sensitive. Fischer added that he hopes they don't think if negotiations are going badly
with CSU that they can somehow justify using a natural area. Kelly Ohlson said we need
to make sure we're comparing apples to apples when comparing Lee Martinez Park to
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CSU property. If it comes out that there is an $82,000 shortfall for the CSU site we need
to make sure it's legitimate, and that costs for using Lee Martinez Park haven't been
deliberately "low -balled". Ohlson added that the Oxbow site hasn't been ruled out either.
Phil Murphy requested the notes from this discussion be forwarded to Don Rodriguez.
Follow up on communiques to Council
Copies of memo's forwarded to Council were provided in the information packets.
Mobility Report Card, Tom Frazier
The Mobility Report Card is a tool designed in 1995 to give communities in the North
Front Range an opportunity to measure a goal of making a 10% modal shift from single
occupancy vehicles to other modes of transportation.
The survey included:
• A survey of households providing data on travel mode and total household travel.
• Actual counts of all travel modes in the different communities (Greeley, Fort Collins,
Loveland).
• Updated regional travel model (Vehicle Miles Traveled).
Survey results included:
• The proportion of people making their weekday trips by SOV has remained about the
same. This is positive in light of the high periods of growth.
• Total automobile travel in the region has increased approximately 20.3% region -wide
In Fort Collins the increase is almost 26%, double what was projected in 1995.
• The VMT increase is driven in part by the increase of higher income households.
• Carpooling has increased.
• Didn't get a lot of responses on walkingtbicycling, so don't know how accurate those
figures are.
Recommendations:
• Accelerate the TDM program.
• Expand'IDM awareness.
• Foster additional employer and employee participation in'IDM programs.
• Continue the TDM evaluation program.
• Implement survey of carpool database members.
• Pursue greater Front Range vanpool program cooperation.
Frazier said we won't see a lot of changes in the way people are traveling as long the type
of development and housing continue. It will take City Plan at least seven, maybe more,
years to make a difference.
Discussion
• Miller: Under City Plan, with the incorporation of city centers, VMT will be held
down. Well, it should slow it down. People won't have to travel as far. With the
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Mason Stcorridor providing bikeway, transit and pedestrian access people won't
have to use cars, that should help with YMT and single occupant vehicles.
• Friedman: I read that when it comes to SOV commuting trips, as opposed to shuttling
trips, commuting plays a smaller role in the generation of SOV than does everything
else. Is that true? Yes, the non -work trip is at a higher percentage than the work trip.
Is there an effective way to reduce non -work SOV trips? It has to do with education
and awareness. We're working on three big areas in our education/awareness piece;
workplace, schools and universities. We've been working with different groups to try
to set up car pools. for example, soccer and other after -school activities.
• Miller: Has the study looked at making a determination as to whether people are
using their trips efficiently? No, the study is not that detailed
• Donovan: Has there been any thought given as to how a ballot initiative might be
drafted that would be more likely to be approved by the voters? Yes, but the City's in
the budget process now. As far as a new election there has been no direction to move
ahead.
• Friedman: Did the survey point to any areas where we can better encourage alternate
modes, e.g., bikes and pedestrians, by looking at where the infrastructure could be
improved? No.
• Ohlson: When was this presented to Council? At a work session in March. How are
they planning on using this information? The planners are meeting about that issue.
Council is waiting to see how staff incorporates it into different plans. It looks like a
lot of good work, I'm curious of the ramifications. The piece about City Plan and
urban planning is very important. In another four years we'll have a good idea if
things are beginning to shift or not. If not, there are some real hard decisions to be
made by Council.
• Donovan: What is congestion pricing? In downtown Denver they charge $25.00 a
day for parking. Fort Collins is in the $20.00 per month range, looking at going to
$36.00 a month.
• Murphy: Anything as far as a correlation between VMT and gas prices? No, we
didn't look at that. There have been quite a few studies elsewhere. The high prices in
California have not changed the VMT, but in Europe, where it's really expensive
there have been changes. 7here are numerous opinions on that issue.
Strengthening Board Effectiveness
Miller: Thought the seminar would be a "great thing", but in reality the topic was
more for executive boards of corporations, or City Councils. There was about 50
minutes on advisory boards at the end of the day, it didn't sound like he was too
enamored of advisory boards.
Susie Gordon: As a staff liaison, it was very useful. The true test will be to see if
Council buys into some of these principals.
Sally Craig: The NRAB is already operating at the level Carver was discussing, but
not all boards operate as well as the NRAB. Boards should advise directly to
Council, with no go-betweens, some boards don't do that. He made a strong point of
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working as a cohesive group, one member doesn't come out and tell staff to do
something. It could be effective for many boards to use his ideas.
• Donovan: We can learn and grab a few kernels. The "ends and means" discussion
was important. Staff can figure out the means as long as the ends are defined.
Another one of Carver's ideas is that advisory boards are designed to advise, and not
to do public relations with citizens
• Murphy: As a board we need to look at future issues more closely. We seem to get
into detail way above and beyond what we should be working on. We can provide
unique input, we come in with a great deal of knowledge.
• Ohlson: There's not a staff that gets along better than Natural Resources and we're as
functional as a board as is possible. If every other staff and board functioned like
this, we'd be better off.
• Miller: Can remember when the NRAB never got involved in the budget process.
John Fischbach extended the invitation. It's in response to the reality that you have
something important to say, as well as what he's experienced in past years.
Council Policy Recommendations & Budget Review, Tom Shoemaker
Shoemaker stated that at the last meeting the board brainstormed, working essentially on
one list with two objectives of providing; 1) input to Council on their policy agenda and
2) early input into the budget process. Staff took the list and separated it into two draft
memos for board consideration tonight.
The board reviewed the brainstorming list item by item and identified items they felt to
be essential. The following items were recommended to Council and staff with regard to
Council Policy agenda and budget discussions.
■ Protect and preserve the natural Poudre River corridor and restore damaged stretches
to more natural conditions.
■ Continue to aggressively acquire natural areas, following directions given by previous
council to use a variety of funding mechanisms and partnerships.
■ Support continuation of "Help Preserve Open Spaces" tax to provide long-term
management of natural areas program.
■ Accelerate and intensify efforts for reducing growth rate of VMT.
■ Adopt radon standards for new construction and point -of -sale testing requirement.
■ Increase the location and numbers of air quality monitoring stations.
■ Create a Pollution Prevention Program to provide assistance to small and medium
sized businesses.
■ Expand recycling opportunities with projects including but not limited to working
with Larimer County to expand the recycling plant, providing one or more additional
drop-off sites and better opportunities for multi -family complexes.
■ Actively participate in decisions involving landfill issues, in relation to recycling and
waste diversion opportunities that it provides to the community.
■ Establish more stringent regulations regarding development in the 100-year flood
plain.
■ Ensure that growth is paying its own way.
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■ Increase interaction with Larimer County and regional entities concerning land use.
■ Ensure that variances and deviations from the Land Use Code do not negate City
Plan.
■ Provide adequate staffing to inspect and enforce LDGS conditions and City Plan
Land Use Code implementation.
■ Discourage new HOA covenants, and encourage revisions to existing covenants, that
are environmentally unfriendly (such as requirements to use bluegrass, prohibitions
on clotheslines, compost bins and solar panels).
■ Conduct more water quality monitoring and reporting for streams and Poudre River.
■ Pass and implement Best Management Practices to protect water quality in streams
and Poudre River.
■ Protect watersheds that supply Fort Collins with drinking water.
Review Future Agenda Items
May 14. 1999 Field Trip
May 19, 1999: City Separators Project
Downtown River Corridor Plan
Solid Waste Diversion Projects
June 2. 1999: Cities for Climate Protection
Review Action Log
■ Bill Miller asked the NRAB to consider a joint meeting with Larimer County
Environmental Advisory Board.
■ Memo to Council: Flooded sections of trails need to be relocated with sensitivity for
natural resources.
• Forward comments about Horticulture Center site selection to Don Rodriguez.
■ Forward concerns to Council regarding the issue of dogs in natural areas (natural
areas use parameters).
■ Memo welcoming new Council.
■ Memo on contingency plans if/when City Plan "triggers" are activated.
■ Schedule Futures committee meeting.
Announcements
• Ohlson: Asked staff to review the Land Use Code revision to make sure there's
nothing in there the board would be opposed to. Staff agreed to double-check.
• Gordon: Compost bin sale is Saturday, May 8.
• Shoemaker: High level discussions are occurring regarding approval of a sewer line
near Heron Lake.
Adjourn
The meeting adjourned at 10:00.