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MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
281 N. COLLEGE
FEBRUARY 2, 2000
For Reference: Randy Fischer, NRAB Chair - 226-5383
Bill Bertschy, Council Liaison - 484-0181
Tom Shoemaker, Staff Liaison - 221-6263
Board Members Present
Randy Fischer, Don Rodriguez, Kelly Ohlson, Reagan Waskom, Bill Miller, Jan Rastall, Rick
Harness, and Nate Donovan (until 10:00 p.m.)
Board Members Absent
Phil Murphy
Staff Present
Natural Resources Dent: Tom Shoemaker, Mark Sears, Karen Manci, Susie Gordon, and Sally
Maggart
The meeting was called to order at 6:05 p.m.
Guests
Sally Craig, Planning & Zoning Board
David Bell, CSU Student
Agenda Review
• Flatiron/Resource Recovery Farm will be moved to 6:30 p.m.
• Don Rodriguez and Kelly Ohlson have items to discuss at the end of the meeting.
Review Council's Six Month Planning Calendar
• February 15: Changes to Trash Licensing Requirements
Review Action/Tickler Log
The updated Action/Tickler Log in the packet was not current. The Board did not discuss this
item.
Committee Reports
• Issues and Concerns: The committee has had two productive meetings in which process,
product, history, and the future were discussed. Jan Rastall suggested reviewing the Board's
by-laws. The by-laws state that a work session may be held on the third week of the month
as needed for information gathering purposes. A quorum need not be present and minutes
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will not be taken. It was decided to have a work session February 16. Kelly Ohlson and
Bill Miller asked to have copies of the by-laws sent to them
Flatiron/Resource Recovery Farm
Tom Shoemaker reported that things are unraveling. He said that LaFarge wants to make it
happen but the problem now is that gravel production has had record months and there is not
enough in reserve to complete the deal by Council's second reading. Shoemaker said that
mining has been done up to the oxbow, but has stayed out of the trees. He said that the County is
willing to help but they are concerned about getting paid back.
Shoemaker said that he will still be moving ahead to the second reading of Council but there will
be a change in the description to clarify the areas to be saved. He added that the worst case
scenario is that the area that has been mined is done to the best standard of reclamation practice.
Review Future Agenda Items
• Residents of the Scenic Knolls area would like to have 1/2 hour at the March meeting to
present information on a proposed equestrian trail that will connect the Cathy Fromme
Prairie with Coyote Ridge. This will be scheduled for the next Trails Committee meeting.
• George Wallace, CSU, wants to share a white paper report, "An Evaluation of Tools and
Techniques for Minimizing the Loss of Agricultural Land and Water in Larimer County".
This will be discussed at the February 16 work session.
Update on Pay -as -you -throw Ordinance: Susie Gordon
Susie Gordon, Environmental Program Manager, reported that this is on schedule to go to
Council for the first hearing on February 15. Gordon said that other measures to improve
recycling and waste reduction are included in the proposed changes. She added that Council was
receptive in August to the new amendments and the Board's Solid Waste Committee has met
several times to review the proposed changes.
Gordon noted that specific reporting information is needed from the trash haulers to determine if
they are being consistent in charges for the amount of trash collected. Specifically, they are
being asked for routing sheets, a daily list of addresses and a documentation of extra bags in
order to provide follow up on customer complaints.
Kelly Ohlson said that it is important that boardmembers attend this Council meeting. He said
that pay -as -you -throw is a good tenet of environmental policy and reminded members that
Council recommended this instead of districting.
Gordon reviewed the changes to the ordinance. She emphasized that the reporting by the haulers
is strictly for compliance and not for districting purposes. Confidentiality is very important to
the trash haulers.
Gordon said that another important issue to the trash haulers is that they do not want to get
prosecuted because of a single frivolous complaint. They want an administrative policy that
tracks and monitors complaints, with a system for customer reporting that starts with contacting
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the trash hauler, follows up with a letter to the hauler, and gives the hauler an opportunity to
report back on the problem. Randy Fischer asked what the trigger would be for an audit.
Gordon said that the ordinance would authorize a random audit.
Ohlson asked if a member of the public could report signs of abuse with someone else's trash
service. Gordon said that she will ask the city attorney's office for an interpretation.
Randy Fischer said that there are whole sections missing from the December version of the
proposed ordinance. Gordon explained that the adopting ordinance refers to the changes. She
said that she would like to have the Board's support for the ordinance. Fischer said that he has
not had a chance to read the proposed ordinance and is concerned that there might be something
not acceptable in it. Gordon explained the two or three changes that were made from what the
Solid Waste Committee last saw. Fischer said that a memo from the Board was sent to Council
in November when they voted on a resolution to increase waste diversion. He said that it could
be tweaked for this purpose. Ohlson asked if a memo is needed if this is on consent. Gordon
said that the Board has that option. The deadline is Tuesday, February 15, for Council's "read
before" packet.
Bill Miller made the motion to have Randy Fischer amend the Board's November memo to
Council to endorse supporting the ordinance. Waskom asked if the Solid Waste Committee
supported the changes. Fischer said that they did in the previous drafts, but since the new
changes were just received, he would have to have more time to review the new proposed
ordinance. Bill Miller withdrew his motion.
Natural Areas Work Plan 2000-2001
Mark Sears, Environmental Program Manager, said that he hopes all this work can be completed
in two years. He received the following comments from boardmembers:
Land Conservation
A. Acquisition Team
• Need to acquire more than 214 acres a year.
• Recommend hiring a land agent.
• Can save more money by buying now while the land is there.
B. Planning
• Need to discuss Cooper Slough. It is a little after the fact.
• Should have prioritized acquisitions north of Valley Business Park three or four years ago.
C. Database
• Assumed we always had a database.
• Will it be available to public or in-house. (Will be strictly available to the land acquisition
team)
D. Acquisition Process
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Get best deal possible for the City.
Be warm, fuzzy, kind and responsive but get fair deal for citizens.
E.& F Property Owners
• Point out why the City is a viable partner —the money will be thereat closing.
G. Negotiations
• Negotiate tough. Look at realities of the market.
• If it is an important piece and have to pay more than appraised value, won't get an argument
if it is within reason.
H. Status Report
• A quarterly report is adequate.
• A funding piece in the report would be helpful.
• Use Board's opinion as part of negotiation process when price seems excessive.
J. Conservation Easements
• Don't identify just one land trust, say "private organizations, such as Larimer Land Trust".
Restoration and Enhancement
A through E Restoration Work
• Need to build in a monitoring component and check on progress.
• Staff identified on first page, but not in the rest. Prefer not to have names.
• Might not want 'h FTE in education and might want to delay enforcement person. More
immediate to have a person to monitor construction on development sites. Does not mean an
education person is not wanted. There are too many needs with scarce resources. Need to
get funds for staffing a field person.
• Eliminate "efforts". Make it "continue to restore sites".
H. Eradication
• Eliminate "plans". Make it "continue to eradicate".
• Are there priorities for eradication. (Riverbend Ponds is the most infested and the highest
priority. Priorities are established each year depending on the need)
• Is there a GIS overlay on noxious weeds. (No. The Natural Areas program is purchasing a
GPS system for mapping)
J. Natural Areas Enhancement Fund
• Reference to budget not anywhere else. Be consistent.
Public Improvements
B. Construction
• Benches are good. Make parking lots adequate.
C. Fencing
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What is the difference between buck-n-rail and western rail fence? (Buck-n-rail is on a
tripod and western rail is horizontal. Buck-n-rail is less labor intensive and easier to repair.
The initial costs are similar)
Paved Bike Trails
• Move reference on bike trails. Eliminate "paved".
• Move this section to Public Improvements
Maintenance
• Two paragraphs are titled "C"
C. Inventory
• Expand "targeted weeds" to include trail management plans for all natural areas using GIS
technology, not just weeds. It would be good to have a comprehensive trails management
plan.
D & E Maintenance
The wrong message is sent when a kiosk is installed and sits empty for a year and a half.
Regulations need to be posted.
Cleaning needs to be more often than "periodic'.
Education/Interpretation
A. Master Naturalist Program
• It seems like the Master Naturalist Program is providing funding for Poudre School District
projects.
• Consider having a citizen conservation corps to assist in removing russian olives, installing
fences, etc.
• Would like more detailed specifics where Master Naturalists volunteer and what they do.
(Volunteers are needed to help in a variety of ways. The Master Naturalists do more things
than act as speakers and guides).
• Remove editorializing "Master Naturalists are great supporters of the Natural Area Program
and volunteer to help in a variety of ways."
• Emphasize interpretation as a management tool and have programs that help staff, for
example, the "Leave No Trace Program".
• Have the Master Naturalists pay for their training and get reimbursed for doing public
service.
• Expand scope of Master Naturalist program using interpretation as a management tool.
B — D. Brochures
• Put kiosks at the mall instead of 281 N. College. Get them where the people are.
• Surprised the brochures are not further along.
• There are a lot of brochures out there done by others. We do not need to reinvent the wheel.
• Delegate brochure development to Master Naturalists.
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Why isn't the "Living Next to a Natural Area" brochure getting done? The information
needs to get out. It could all be in one brochure. Send it to neighborhood associations and
realtors.
E. Interpretive Features
• Initiate additional programs like the Leave No Trace educational effort. There is a master
training for Leave No Trace. It has a broader appeal than the Master Naturalist program.
• Suggest having business size cards for trail users to hand out saying why dogs need to be on
leash in natural areas. The State Forest Department has a card like that.
F. Environmental Newsletter
• Expand the mailing of the Environmental Newsletter.
• Look at getting fair share time in the City utility insert.
K. Site Signs
• Consider some level of consistency in natural area signs. There is no common element.
• The Education Committee should look at sign design.
Enforcement
B. Permits
• Are non -conforming uses of natural areas permitted? Is there a definitive list of permitted
use? (Anyone requesting access to a natural area needs to receive a permit. Management
plans have permitted uses listed.)
C. Rangers
• Will support additional rangers in 2000 only if they are going to enforce the laws.
• The County has a "no tolerance" program. We need to do that.
• There is no need for a mounted patrol component.
Policy and Site Planning Development
E. Go Colorado Grants
• Think more broadly in terms of partnership for GOCO grants. Think broader than
government agencies.
• Protection of agricultural lands could be logical nexus.
F. Research
• Look at who constituents are and find out more about people using natural areas. It will be
good information to have.
T. Draft Design and Mitigation Manual
• It is good that something is going to be done with the Design & Mitigation Manual.
V . Bonding Authority
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• Be careful on the "bonding" thing.
W. Excess Revenues
• Work on wording. There is already a policy that the overage in Ordinance 29 goes to Natural
Areas.
Land Acquisition Priorities
Comments
Oxbow, 9C: The City should not buy buffer zones in the Oxbow area.
Cooper Slough, 15A: Need to enforce buffer zones at Cooper Slough.
Totals, Page 4, Need to breakout totals and present in a different way. Put actual acres that
are protected from development vs. the total.
Boxelder Update: Mark Sears
Mark Sears said that the ordinance in December contained two items that were not in the original
ordinance: 1) Allow fill over the force main; and, 2) Remove the gravel bar in the bend of the
river. He said that Anderson Consultants have been hired to look at this and they are
recommending against removal of the gravel bar because it would allow sediment to carry down
stream and cause the same problem to the force main. The recommendation to Boxelder is to not
remove the gravel bar and not reclaim any land lost in the flood, but to use rip rap to control
future loss.
Sears explained that no real negative concerns were found regarding the fill over the force main.
The County has approved it and FEMA approval is needed. Boxelder would have to indemnify
the City and LaFarge against any damage coming out of it and would have to release the City
and LaFarge from anything prior. Sears is not sure that Boxelder is willing to do that. A dike
parallel to the force main may be needed further out into the gravel pit to keep a minimum flow
in the river.
Sears reported that the second reading at Council has been postponed. He said that he can take
the ordinance back to Council with NRAB's original recommendation.
Ohlson asked who paid for the consultant. Sears responded that the Natural Areas program has
about $25,000 so far. Ohlson asked: If it is Boxelder's thing, why did we pay $25,000? Sears
said that the Boxelder issue is only 25 percent of the problem. We needed to go in and get
information on what protection is needed.
No action was taken. Fischer asked Sears to keep the Board apprised.
Announcements
• Ohlson reported a West Side Flood Control (Canal Importation) meeting is being held
tonight and there is another one at Blevins tomorrow at 6:30 p.m. He asked if Bob Smith or
Susan Hayes could give the Board a presentation at the March 1 meeting.
• Ohlson said that he had a Sierra Club sprawl report that he will provide to those interested.
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• Rodriguez said that he has been contacted by the Lee Martinez neighborhood group. They
asked if boardmembers could come to a 1:00 p.m. meeting on February 26 with the Parks
Department at Lee Martinez Park. He said that the neighbors are concerned about
programmed activities. Rodriguez said that he will be attending the meeting.
• Ohlson reported that the latest proposal is to locate the Cultural Arts Center at the Aztlan
Northside Center site.
• Harness said that the Bureau of Reclamation will have a meeting at Horsetooth to get
baseline information on putting in drilling rigs and the need to carve out access roads.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 p.m.