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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD CITY. CLERK
MINUTES
AUGUST 23, 1982
Board Present: Barbara Purvis, Dave Gilfillan, Dennis Georg, Gary Ross, Ed
Stoner, Tim Dow, Don Crews, Ingrid Simpson
Staff Present: Mauri Rupel, Cathy Chianese, Joe Frank, Sherry Albertson -
Clark, Curt Smith, Linda Gula, Phyllis Polly
Legal Representative: Paul Eckman
Meeting called to order 6:30 p.m.
AGENDA REVIEW:
2.
#31-82A
Minerva Business Park PUD Phase
One - Final
- CONTINUED
to
9/27/82 P & Z Meeting
3.
#20-82A
Harbor Walk Subdivision - Final -
CONTINUED to
9/27/82
P & Z Meeting
y
7.
#43-82
Holiday Inn PUD Master Plan -
CONTINUED to
9/27/82 P &
Z
Meeting
8.
#43-82A
Holiday Inn PUD Phase One -
Preliminary -
CONTINUED
to
9/27/82 P & Z Meeting
10.
#45-82
Golden Meadows PUD 4th Filing
-Preliminary
- CONTINUED
TO
9/27/82 P & Z Meeting
11.
#9-80E
The Arena PUD Second Revision
- Preliminary
— CONTINUED
to
9/27/82 P & Z Meeting
12.
#9-80F
The Arena PUD Phase Three - Final
- CONTINUED to
9/27/82 P &
Z
Meeting
17.
#40-82
Frank Exemption Request - County Referral
- WITHDRAWN
by
Applicant
18.
#54-82
INC Leasing Rezoning Request - County
Referral
- WITHDRAWN
by
Applicant
CONSENT AGENDA:
1. Approval of minutes of July 26, 1982.
Georg: Moved to approve Consent Agenda Item #1.
Purvis: Second.
Vote: Motion carried 6-0. (Stoner not voting).
Note: Ed Stoner arrived at 6:40 p.m.
RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL:
4. #113-80B Revision to the Land Development Guidance System
A staff -initiated proposal to amend the "Density Chart" of the
Land Development Guidance System.
Applicant: City of Fort Collins
Frank: Gave a staff report recommending approval.
Note: Discussion followed between staff and the Board concerning the
impact of the changes on the Goals and Policies of the City;
possible problems with retroactive applications; and past
policies of the City.
Dow: Commented this, is probably one of several modifications which
the Board is going to see. Stated that some of these numbers
merit further evaluation.
Stoner:
Moved to recommend to City Council approval of the Revisions
to the Land Development Guidance System.
Second.
Vote: Motion carried 6-1. (Georg voting no.)
Georg: Commented that he thought the Board had moved too capriciously
in the past and thought that the changes that the Board were
making would be more effective by more calculatingly observing
what the impact of these changes would be.
5. #49-82 Nix Out -of -City Water Service Request
Request for out -of -City water service for 5.3-ac, located
south of Bingham Hill Road, on the east side of Claymore Lake.
Applicant: Jerry Nix, 2105 S. Shields, Fort Collins, CO
80526.
Albertson -Clark: Gave a staff report recommending approval.
Jerry Nix: Applicant. Presented a brief background of the site. Stated
that he would be available to answer questions.
Gilfillan: Stated that he could not support the request because of the
dispute on the land ownership and felt that it should be
tabled or denied.
Eckman: Stated that the issues could be separated and that the Board
could rule on the question of the water tap because the quest-
ion of subdivisions and the appropriateness of development
would be left up to the County.
Dow: Questioned what other options the developer had for water
service.
Rupel: Stated that it would be strictly well service.
Gilfillan: Moved to recommend to City Council approval of the Nix
Out -of -City Water Service Request subject to the condition
that a subdivision is approved and that they be willing to
annex at the time.
Purvis: Second.
Vote: Motion carried 7-0.
6. #50-82 Foothills Subdivision Out -of -City Sewer Service Request
Request for out -of -City sewer service for 16 units on 33-ac
(proposed Foothills Subdivision), located west of Overland
Trail, south of Prospect Street.
Applicant: Alvin Miller, 4017 Spruce Drive, Fort Collins, CO
80526.
Albertson -Clark: Gave a staff report recommending approval subject to an agree-
ment committing to future annexation being executed.
Alvin Miller: Applicant. Stated that the development that they had in mind
was compatible with City -type development and stated that they
did not really want to be in the City. Stated that he would be
available to answer any questions.
Gilfillan: Commented that because of the uniqueness of the area that if
the applicant does not want to annex, that he still had no
problem with the City providing sewer service to the area.
Dow: Disagreed with that thinking.
Ross: Questioned who would be maintaining the lines.
Rupel: Responded that the City would be responsible.
Georg: Moved to recommend to City Council to approve the Foothills
Subdivision Out -of -City Sewer Service Request subject to an
agreement committing to future annexation being executed.
Crews: Second.
Stoner: Expressed a concern about setting a precedent.
Vote: Motion carried 5-2. (Dow and Gilfillan voting no.)
Note: Because the applicant had not arrived for Item #9 Amendment to
Fairview PUD Phase Two, it was requested that the Board
continue with the later items.
13. #33-82 Asamera PUD - Preliminary
Request for preliminary approval of a 0.411-ac PUD for a gas
station and store, located at the northwest corner of
Horsetooth Road and Mason Street, zoned H-B, Highway Business.
Applicant: Asamera Oil (U.S.), Inc., c/o Architecture Plus,
318 E. Oak, Fort Collins, CO 80524.
Frank: Gave a staff report recommending approval with the condition
that the pump area and the parking area be landscaped as
indicated on the plan submitted to the Planning and Zoning
Board in July, 1982.
Chuck Bowling: Applicant representing Asamera. Stated that after working
with this project that it became apparent that the Board
should consider addressing some type of variance system to
address in -fill sites like this one. Addressed questions
concerning landscaping and presented a letter received from
Mr. Gene Vorce (Exhibit A). Stated that the landscaping
close to the building that was originally planned would create
problems in snow removal for Asamera. Stated that the reason
that the landscaping was removed from the pump island area was
because they cut the size of the island down and because
gasoline spillage would tend to kill the landscaping.
Virgil Singleton: Stated that they were very proud of the concept of this ser-
vice station and were hoping to model future Asamera stations
after this one. Addressed questions from the Board concerning
how water would be provided for the landscaping and how the
easements had been worked out for trash removal.
• Exhibit A •
University Electronics Inc.
Fort Collins, Colorado
Planning Department
City of Fort Collins
Fort Collins, Colorado
Gentlemen:
I am the owner of the property immediately to the north of the proposed
Asamera Oil Company P.U.D. I have examined the proposed P.U.D. and
offer the following comments.
First of all, it will be appreciated if the landscaping can be kept to a
lower level on the east side and rear of their property so that my build-
ing visability will not be unduly restricted. I am mainly concerned with
the northeast corner of their property. Please keep in mind that I need
some exposure, also.
I also hereby give my permission to Asamera Oil Company to use my driveway
to the rear of their property to allow access for service vehicles, such as
trash trucks, to serve the proposed building.
With these comments, I do approve the proposed plan and support the P.U.D.
Sincerely,
Gene Vorce
President
University Electronics Inc.
Dana Lockwood: Architecture Plus. Commented on the land uses, planning
objectives, and the variance requests.
Note: Discussion ensued between staff, the Board, and the applicant
concerning landscaping requirements, concrete paving alongside
the pump islands, and differences between this project and
other projects that had been denied in the past.
Wayne Schrader: Schrader Oil Co. Expressed some concern about the principal
behind Asamera Oil coming to the Board with the request for
the three variances. Felt that there should be more
consistency in what is told to one group of marketers and that
it should be the same as for any other group of marketers and
that it should be the same as for any other group of
marketers. Stated that they had been told that there would be
no more service stations in Fort Collins in major arterial
streets with direct access and that they had been told there
will be no more service stations on corner properties. Stated
that they had attempted to propose service stations to the
Planning staff and had been told they would not even write
them up and present them to the P & Z Board.
Curt Smith: Director of Planning and Development. Stated that in his
discussions with Mr. Schrader in the past concerning gas
station locations, that he did not recall telling him point
blank that staff would not take an item to the Planning and
Zoning Board. Stated that he had indicated to him that that
was the type of item that staff would probably not support due
to policies of putting service stations into locations, and
that through that kind of conversation probably discouraged
him pretty openly from making that kind of an application.
Stated that he did not recall ever making a statement to
anyone that staff would not take an item to the Planning and
Zoning Board.
Schrader: Stated that the major point he was trying to make was that
there needed to be some consistency with these recommendations
and that the guidelines need to be the same for each service
station project.
Georg: Stated that he felt that the Board recognized that there would
be some variance requirements in order to handle in -fill
development. Stated that the Board had probably granted at
least one variance for most in -fill projects. Stated that he
personally did not have any problems with these particular
variance requests.
Moved to approve the Asamera PUD - Preliminary subject to the
condition that the parking area be landscaped as indicated on
the plan submitted to the Planning and Zoning Board in July,
1982.
GiIfi1Ian: Second.''
Vote: Motion carried 4-3. (Stoner, Dow, and Crews voting no.)
Stoner: Stated that he felt that this was very similar to what was
turned down at Taft and Elizabeth. Felt that this corner could
be better used in some other manner. Felt that the Board
should be more consistent in their recommendations.
Dow: Felt also that the Board should view this type of proposal
with some degree of consistency.
14. #180-78F Fountainhead PUD - Preliminary
Request for preliminary approval of a 9.83-ac site consisting
of 89,000 sf of office, 25,000 sf of retail, and 11,000 sf of
restaurant uses, located on the southeast corner of College
Avenue and proposed Boardwalk Drive, zoned H-B, Highway Busi-
ness.
Applicant; Osprey, Inc., c/o ZVFK Arch iteacts/Planners, 218
W. Mountain, Fort Collins, CO 80521.
Frank: Gave a staff report recommending approval.
Ross: Commented that the Board would like staff to have available as
soon as possible the height review study for the area beyond
Horsetooth.
Dennis Donovan: Applicant. Osprey, Inc. Gave a brief history of the site.
Felt that the project would very quickly result in its own
identity. Discussed accessing, streetscapes, architectural
controls, and the retention pond areas.
Bob Lenz: Engineer. Parsons & Associates. Explained and pointed out on
the site plan the detention areas.
Dow: Expressed concern about making a decision on this item without
having the guidelines of the height district.
Eckman: Stated that approval with a height condition would be a great
imposition on the applicant.
Frank: Pointed out that the 1st Phase Final .had been approved which
was for 55'.
Purvis: Moved to approve Fountainhead PUD Phase Two - Preliminary.
Dow: Second.
Vote: Motion carried 7-0.
15. #180-78E Fountainhead PUD Phase One - Final
Request for final approval of a 4.46-ac site consisting of
65,000 sf of office space, located on the southeast corner of
College Avenue and proposed Boardwalk Drive, zoned H-B Highway
Business.
Applicant: Osprey, Inc., c/o ZVFK Architects/Planners, 218 W.
Mountain, Fort Collins, CO 80521.
Frank: Gave a staff report recommending approval.
Dennis Donovan: Applicant. Osprey, Inc. Stated that he would be available to
answer questions.
Purvis: Moved to approve Fountainhead PUD Phase One - Final.
Dow: Second.
Vote: Motion carried 7-0.
9. #72-79B Amendment to Fairview PUD Phase Two
Request to amend the Fairview PUD located on Elizabeth Street
west of City Park Avenue to include a Taco Bell drive -through
restaurant, zoned B-P, Planned Business.
Applicant: Taco Bell, c/o Robb & Brenner, Inc., P.O. Box 251,
Fort Collins, CO 80522.
Chianese: Gave a staff report recommending approval.
Bill Brenner: Applicant. Robb & Brenner, Inc. Discussed concerns about
potential backup problems at the order board and traffic
impact on Elizabeth Street. Stated that they had had a traffic
analysis report done and that the report supports the City
staff position that an acceptable level of service onto an
office site can be maintained. Stated that the report also
showed that the actual movement on site is safer than it was
under the existing plan. Stated that any franchise operation
would look very closely at any site and would not put a
facility where there would be an impact that would be negative
to their business.
Matt Delich: Traffic Engineer who authored the traffic analysis report.
Responded to questions concerning the data in the traffic
analysis report and explained the manner in which it was done.
Stated that in the analysis the additional traffic does not
bring the street to capacity.
David Wood: Attorney for Wendy's. Stated that primarily they were opposed
to the Taco Bell site because it increased the density of use
in terms of parking load and the safety hazards created by the
internal traffic flow. Discussed the traffic counts that had
been done before the July P & Z meeting and compared the
differences between it and the traffic analysis that Mr.
Brenner's firm had done. Presented slides showing the impact
of the traffic at the drive -up window and within the parking
lot.
Note: General discussion followed between the Board, staff, and the
applicant concerning the stack -up spaces, overflow parking,
the impact of college students on the area, and peak business
hours.
Doug Dannen:
Wendy's representative. Discussed again the traffic flows and
the impact of the college students on those flows. Stated that
he felt that there was just not enough space for both
fast-food restaurants.
Charles Sisk:
1405 Partnership - owner of the property. Stated that their
position was to encourage the Board to allow the Amendment to
the PUD.
David Wood:
Commented that if the landowner had presented a proposal for a
PUD to simultaneously construct a Wendy's and a Taco Bell on
this size parcel of ground that there would be very little
chance that it would have been approved. Felt that the
landowner was developing this in a piecemeal manner.
Gilfillan:
Stated that he would feel much more comfortable with the
project if they were not planning on having a drive -through
window. Felt that in the future there may be a need for a
left -turn lane.
Georg:
Stated that the biggest argument seemed to be about the loss
of 7 or 8 parking spaces. Felt that the data presented seemed
to indicate that 53 spaces were adequate for both restaurants
and expressed support for the project.
Ross:
Felt that anytime that you retrofit a completion of a partial-
ly completed PUD you would see better ways of doing it. Stated
that the site was very tight and that the traffic was
potentially a problem.
Stoner: Felt that there would be a real problem with the traffic
crossing itself twice.
Gilfillan: Moved to approve the Amendment to Fairview PUD Phase Two as
submitted.
Georg: Second.
Vote: Motion carried 5-2. (Stoner and Purvis voting no.)
Dow: Felt that his concerns about the impact on Elizabeth Street
had been addressed.
16. #44-82 Redwood Village PUD - Preliminary
Request for preliminary PUD approval of 43-ac consisting of
235 DU, located on the southeast corner of Conifer Drive and
Redwood Streets, zoned R-L-P, Low Density Planned Residential.
Applicant: Osprey, Inc., c/o ZVFK Architects/Planners, 218 W.
Mountain, Fort Collins, CO 80521.
Albertson -Clark: Gave a staff report recommending approval.
John Dengler: Applicant. Gefroh and Associates. Stated he would be avail-
able to answer any questions. Responded to comments concerning
the planned expressway, the type of units planned, recreation-
al facilities, and the price range of the units.
Rupel: Commented that staff was looking for higher density in this
area.
Curt Smith: Commented that concerning the planned expressway, that berming
and landscaping would help in reducing the impact on any of
the properties directly adjacent to it.
Stoner: Moved to approve Redwood Village PUD - Preliminary
Georg: Second.
Ross: Commented that he thought this project addressed a needed
market in Fort Collins.
Vote: Motion carried 7-0.
19. #55-82 Beckley Special Review - County Referral
Request for special review to permit a recreational use (water
slide) in the C-Commercial zoning district, located on the
east side of Highway 287, south of County Road 32.
Applicant: Perry Beckley, P.O. Box 460, Rexburg, Idaho 83440
Albertson -Clark: Gave a staff report recommending denial, stating that the
proposed use is not consistent with the policy of maintaining
the separation between Fort Collins and Loveland via open
space areas and uses.
Perry Beckley:
Applicant. Discussed the landscaping planned for the site,
and felt that parking, traffic, and noise would not be a
potential problems.
Note:
Discussion followed concerning what uses would be preferable
in the rural non -farm use area, heating costs, and the number
of days open per year.
Loren Dilsaver:
Developer of Collins Center. Discussed the potential uses of
the acreage.
Stoner:
Stated that he could not envision any use in that area but
commercial use and that you could not expect someone who owns
that property to hold it vacant for the betterment of Fort
Collins and Loveland people without paying for it.
Simpson:
Felt that this particular use seemed more compatible than some
things that could go in there. Stated that she did support
staff's concern about a rural non -farm area but that the
problem was that there is already something there and this did
not look like it would have that large of an impact to add to
it.
Georg: Stated that without a plan for the entire area that basically
what was happening was that it was being "chipped away".
Moved to recommend to the County denial of the Beckley Special
Review because it is inconsistent with the rural non -farm
area.
Dow: Second.
Vote: Motion carried 6-1. (Stoner voting no.)
Meeting adjourned 10:40 p.m.