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Water Board Minutes
July 21, 1989
Members Present
Henry Caulfield, President, Tom Sanders, Vice President, Neil Grigg, Tom
Moore, Ray Herrmann, Marylou Smith, Dave Stewart, Tom Brown, Mark
Casey (alt), Paul Clopper (alt.)
Staff
Mike Smith, Dennis Bode, Linda Burger, Webb Jones, Ben Alexander, Andy
Pineda, Wendy Williams, Molly Nortier
Guests
Larry Simpson, General Manager, Northern Colorado Water Conservancy District
Loren Maxey, City Council Liaison to the Water Board
Members Absent
Terry Podmore, Tim Dow
President Henry Caulfield opened the meeting. The following items were
discussed:
Introduction of New Members
Chairman Caulfield introduced the new Water Board members. Regular member
Thomas C. Brown is employed with the Rocky Mountain Forest and Range
Experiment Station and Junior Alternate Paul E. Clopper, is a Senior Water
Resources Engineer with Simons Li & Associates, Inc.
Minutes
The minutes of June 16, 1989 were approved as distributed.
Larry Simpson, General Manager of the NCWCD, began by informing the Board on
the condition of the water supply system. The Big Thompson project is in
fairly.good shape he said. "We'll be able to deliver the 100% quota this
year, and probably 100% next year if we have a dry year." Currently they
are trading on the deficit and pulling out the reserves rather heavily.
Their prognostication is that local storage by and large will be down to the
lowest levels of record by the end of this year. For example, many of the
direct flow decrees in agriculture never came into priority this year as
well as a large number of the later reservoir decrees. Essentially around
this region we have been pulling storage since the middle of June; in some
cases before that. We are in a major deficit situation through the overall
system which is about 55% of average. There has been almost no significant
precipitation other than scattered showers since the May rains, and those
didn't have a widespread impact.
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Henry Caulfield mentioned the article that appeared recently in the
Coloradoan newspaper in which Larry Simpson was interviewed. Mr. Simpson
explained that he had been testifying before a legislative interim
committee. Because of the major drought situation, he advocated that water
conservation and restrictions should be encouraged right now. Next year, if
this continues, it may be too late to do much, he said. "That was a point I
was making to the legislative committee and it was included in the article."
In his testimony he primarily addressed that need for storage "and
conservation in this region basically means storing it so you have it
available," he added. He also pointed out to the Committee that one of the
major concerns he has is the prevalent notion that because agriculture in
the state has 85-90% of the water, and 85% of that is used on low value
crops, cities believe that taking the water from those crops would in
essence provide all the water cities would ever need.
"Dr. Gray at CSU released a good study but he missed the point that the
majority of the agriculture water is unattainable for city use," Mr. Simpson
explained. It is basically opportunity water or direct flow water. "It's
water that is available when the snow melts; once it is used by the farmer
or it's gone, one or the other." If the cities, as Thornton did, buy up the
water, they are not interested in that direct flow water because frankly
they can't use it without building storage. He also pointed out to them
that if in fact cities like Thornton come north and buy that water, their
impact on agriculture is going to be far greater than Dr. Gray's previous
study of 2 acre feet per acre of dry -up. "In fact what they are doing is
using that storage water that is used to finish up the crops in July and
August. That amount of water is probably servicing 4 acres of land. Instead
of drying of 2 acre feet you are more likely drying up 4 acres of land from
high value crops as we know them by taking that acre foot of stored water."
Essentially what will be happening is that farmers will be relegated to
raising the early summer small grains; barley, some pinto beans, crops that
are germinated and finished by the first of August. "Therefore, the old
statement that you just take it from agriculture and you won't have to build
storage is totally false," he asserted.
The other statement that appeared in the newspaper wasn't even addressed in
his testimony to the committee of the legislature. The reporter from the
Coloradoan interviewed him after the session was ended. He asked Mr.
Simpson what Fort Collins could be doing now to cope with droughts. "I
started talking about watering restrictions, etc.," he recalled. The
reporter brought up the question about metering and I responded that
annually I must submit a conservation plan for northern Colorado explaining
what we are doing both in agriculture and the municipal areas because of our
involvement with a federal project." He related to the reporter that
metering is a grave concern of the federal government, and Fort Collins is
the only city of any size within the District that is not entirely metered.
He stressed that he is not an advocate of metering as an alternative to
development. "Fort Collins may encounter pressure to meter brought by the
federal government through the District," he speculated; "at least a minimal
program where new homes are metered."
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Tom Sanders asked if the government has a legal way to do that, "like
cutting off water from CBT if we don't." "I don't believe they can cut off
the CBT water and I think we would fight them trying to restrict the manner
in which we allot the water," Mr. Simpson responded. However, there are
other ways they can use leverage.
President Caulfield stated that the Water Board has taken its initiative on
the metering issue to the Council and they rejected it. The next step is
the Council's. Mr. Caulfield added that it is entirely possible that the
EPA could be the source of the pressure to meter.
Mr. Simpson said he has been directed by the federal government to propose
conservation measures to the farmers and to the municipalities within the
District. He is currently in the process of drafting a letter to that
effect. Staff asked that Mr. Simpson send the letter to the Mayor.
Historically, the District has not interfered in their constituents'
business, Mr. Simpson, assured the Board, "so these letters are difficult to
prepare." "I have been warned by the government that this review of our
conservation plan will be very strenuous," he stressed. Ray Herrmann asked
at what point we cut off junior rights if we continue to get dryer. Our job
is to try to stabilize the water supply in the area, Mr. Simpson replied.
"We do that by careful monitoring of our water sheds and storage. Annually
we try to add enough water to the system to maintain a normal supply." They
did that this year with a 100% quota. Next year they will probably go with
100% if the situation remains the same. "The system works for about 2-2 1/2
years. Then we are out of luck," he said.
"Who owns the water rights under Colorado adjudication for the CBT water,"
Neil Grigg asked. They are vested in the U.S. government and they are
vested so that the NCWCD and its constituents have perpetual use of all the
water, Mr. Simpson responded.
NCWCD Water Carryover Program
Mr. Caulfield asked that the Board direct its discussion to the NCWCD Water
Carry-over program, the next item on the agenda. Mr. Simpson explained that
the carry-over program was initiated on a trial basis and essentially it is
a year by year evaluation of the need for carrying over or not carrying over
water at the end of the season. This was begun about 3 years ago. During
the wet years there is a great value to keeping the water in the Big
Thompson system and saving the storage capacity of the tributary water sheds
to capture tributary water. That was the original intent of the program to
allow entities to hold their water in credit. If they did not fill their
local storage in the next year with tributary water, they could then call
their carry-over water. Basically, it was a management tool. Several
problems have developed from this, he continued. In the past 4 or 5 years,
before this program, many water users would just cancel their allotment and
it would go back to the pool, making it available the next year. The bad
part of the old system was that everyone started running that water for
storage so we were losing some to shrink and some to the Gulf of Mexico. As
a result, the program was instituted to allow carry-over. When the program
began, the District pointed out that this was an alternative where "if you
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don't need the water in the spring, leave it in the pool, but unfortunately
we found that cities were beginning to hoard that water rather than renting
it out on the farm markets," he said.
He explained that the District Board originally established a policy to
allow cities to acquire more water; up to 100% of their current demand, for
future planning and future use, but with the explicit understanding that
until that was actually needed by the City, it would be rented at a
reasonable rate to the farming community. That gave the cities additional
water for future planning and day to day use without jeopardizing the
agricultural system. However the District found that within the last two
years, cities were not honoring that stipulation and instead were hoarding
the additional water. Therefore, considering the 100% quota and the very
dry year, the Board voted to temporarily end the carry-over program. "We
are still searching for a management tool where people are all working
together to get the job done right," he assured. One possibility that has
been discussed is differential quotas, where if we make a 100% quota to meet
the agricultural needs, the cities have perhaps a constant 70% quota that
they can rely on from year to year. That works for some cities. It doesn't
for Fort Collins because they designed their system for reliance on
tributary water supplies to maintain that fluctuation of quota from CBT.
Mr. Caulfield clarified the term carry-over water. At the end of the water
year, usually October, if there is no carry-over program, it means that any
water you have at that time is cancelled and the water goes into the pool.
Whereas, if there is a carry-over policy, that balance is still alive for
you. During the winter you can draw on that water for you needs. "As I
understand the effect of what the District has done," he continued, any
balance available at the end of the water season this year, will be
cancelled." For our winter water we will begin drawing on our next year's
allotment.
Furthermore, as far as Mr. Caulfield is aware, the City of Fort Collins has
not been one of the guilty parties with regard to rental water for
agriculture. "As far as I know, our staff has been very active in renting
water, including the water that we bought this year." Mr. Simpson agreed
that Fort Collins has not been one to hold on to big blocks of water towards
the end of May. He added that he has discussed this with Dennis Bode and
asked him to help devise a system that makes,some sense.
Dennis Bode commented on how the carry-over program has worked for Fort
Collins. He referred to a handout with Mr. Simpson's letter of notification
of the cancellation of the carry-over policy; a letter dated October 18,
1985 to Mr. Simpson from former Water Board president Norm Evans when the
policy was adopted; and a table with CBT carry-over water history from 1973
to the present to give a feel for how the CBT water works at the end of the
season. "Over the years the City has left anywhere from 200 AF to
5,000-6,000 AF in Horsetooth," Mr. Bode explained. Until the carry-over
program, that just went back into the common pool for everybody's benefit.
"One of our concerns," he continued, "was the inequity in doing that. Some
folks may have used all their water while others may not have needed it in
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that particular year." One of the real benefits of the carry-over program
was to give the cities and the farmers flexibility; if they didn't use it,
they could carry it over and use it next spring. It has given Fort Collins
some flexibility in its planning. "We normally depend on Horsetooth water
for those last few months in the fall season." It is difficult to determine
just what the demands are going to be in September and October and there
generally isn't a chance to rent the water after about the middle of August
in most years. "In order to have enough water on hand, the carry-over
program worked very well for us, Mr. Bode emphasized, because we knew we had
enough to meet our demands through October and anything left we knew we
could use the next year." Essentially what this cancellation does to Fort
Collins is that it will force us to guess more precisely what our demands
will be and we will rent the water with some risk of perhaps not having the
supplies at the end of the year, or we just hold it and lose it in the pool
at Horsetooth at the end of the year. "I think there are some ideas for
future programs, he said, "and certainly I would be willing to participate
in discussions looking at a carry-over policy."
"As you know, the carry-over policy was an experimental effort to begin
with," Mr. Simpson reiterated. It's been in existence for three years, and
each year there have been modifications.
Mr. Caulfield pointed out in the carry-over table that in some wet years,
'84,'85, and '86, you couldn't rent the water because there was no market
for it. Those were the years the District instituted another program
offering non -charge water in the spring in an attempt to evacuate the system
in order to accommodate more capture on the other side of the mountains, Mr.
Simpson related. "We made water available to agriculture at no charge, and
the program worked very well," he said.
Mr. Bode said that one possible scenario for a carry-over policy would be to
allow, on an individual basis, each entity to carry over perhaps 20% of
their quota into the next year and not enforcing some of the rules as far as
using it in April and May. "You would simply put that in and it becomes
part of the quota, and thus becomes free to move up and down the District as
the market would indicate," he concluded.
Mr. Simpson responded that the problem is we establish our quota for the
next year by looking at the total supply available, and that 20% would have
to be part of the total supply available. The place it would have an impact
would be on those entities that have basically only CBT water. "I think if
we can assume the attitude that we can manage the water wisely, I think we
can find ways to make it work," he contends. He repeated that the program
has not been cancelled. Carry-over could be instituted in some form again
next year.
Mr. Caulfield reminded Mr. Simpson of when Fort Collins met with the
District at the time of the City's major water purchases. At that time, the
City submitted a long term plan to the year 2035. "Where does that stand?"
You were going to discuss the question of our plan with us. "Unfortunately,
at this time it is on hold," Mr. Simpson replied. Most of his people who
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were going to do the review are totally wrapped up in getting the
regionalized distribution study started. He also stated that he would like
to come up with a generic plan into which the Fort Collins plan will fit.
He is still working on getting his Board comfortable with the idea. They are
a little reluctant to adopt anything like that until the regional study is
completed. "We are doing growth projections within our southern region
now," he said.
Tom Sanders brought up an additional point about the carry-over question.
He contends that carry-over allowed us to save water and carry it over for
credit the next year, but this policy of not having carry-over can be
implied that we don't need to save water. "Unfortunately, that's what
happens in some areas," Mr. Simpson agreed. However, what they are saying is
if you don't need the water, put it back in the pool or don't draw from the
pool. Mr. Simpson recalled when the all of the entities in the District
thought in terms of the water benefiting the region. In the last few years
that attitude has changed to "this is my water" and the spirit of
cooperation has become obscure.
Mr. Caulfield noted that when Fort Collins did a drought study, "we knew in
drought years we would get a 100% quota. All our estimates on water
availability were based on that fact." Dennis Bode clarified that it was up
to a certain point --about 3 years or so.
Neil Grigg asked what the regional study will do. "First we will be dealing
with the south end of the system," Mr. Simpson began, "because that is where
the most critical demand is currently; eventually the entire area." We are
going to try to develop cooperatively, with everybody's input we can get,
the best possible physical distribution system for this region for the next
50 years, in 10 year periods. This is the goal of the plan. This probably
will include the economics of scale of regionalized treatment systems. This
will be in the second or third phase of the study. Regionalized treatment
may make sense just on the southern end. It may not even make sense there.
This is one of the things the study will determine.
Mark Casey asked if CBT water is being transferred out of the District by
way of lease or does it look like it will in the future? "I don't see that
ever happening with CBT water," Mr. Simpson asserted. With Windy Gap
water, although we would like to see it stay in Northern Colorado, it
appears, frankly, that the cities who have it, have a right to do what they
will with what they paid for. Westminster proposed an offer to Boulder and
Longmont for their Windy Gap water, but it was contingent upon their being
able to access the CBT rental market in the event of a physical outage in
the Windy Gap system. "I don't think our Board will ever do that," he
repeated. The Board may move the boundary to the southern Boulder, Weld
County line. That's probably inevitable, he concluded.
Mr. Caulfield thanked Larry Simpson for giving the Water Board an extensive
update. Mr. Simpson said that he would be glad to return whenever there are
questions or concerns.
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Review of Peak Day Water Use
Mr. Caulfield spoke to Dennis Bode about two weeks ago suggesting that the
City is possibly approaching a critical point in its treatment capacity. As
a result, it might mean that there is a need for standby restrictions. He
asked Mr. Bode and Mike Smith to think about it.
Dennis Bode called the Board's attention to the July water use table
distributed at the meeting which recorded daily use and temperatures. An "R"
indicated when the temperature was a record for that day. There were 4
record days. A graph displayed at the meeting showed the fluctuations in
daily use starting with May through the present time, the precipitation and
the maximum temperature. The use was somewhat below average in June.
Starting in July there was a block of high temps. and water use went up
substantially. There was very little precip. during that period. Mr.
Caulfield pointed out that our treatment capacity is currently 64 MGD and
61.7 was the high peak. Mr. Bode continued: In order to give some
indication of how unusual this stretch in July is, the second sheet of the
handouts shows 3-day and 7-day max temps. beginning in 1901. You can see
that in 1989, using the 7-day average, we averaged 96 degrees for seven days
consecutively. That's the second highest average we have seen since 1901.
The year 1954 was the highest. "We are just getting into the period when
we'll see shorter days and slightly cooler temps, so we think we have passed
the bad period for 1989," he concluded.
Paul Clopper asked what the highest peak day has been. Mr. Bode replied
that the peak day of 61.7 was the highest we have ever experienced. The
previous high was 55.2 on Memorial Day of this year and 2 years ago in
mid -July.
Marylou Smith asked what percentage of growth we've had in those 2 years
since we reached that peak. Probably about 4%, Mr. Bode replied.
How did we handle the situation at our treatment plants? Ben Alexander
responded: "We handled it, but my staff and I felt like we had entered our
Chevy in the Indianapolis 500!" Tom Moore asked if during a time like this
is the plant going full out for a 24 hour period or does peaking actually
affect your plant hourly? "We have to vary," Mr. Alexander replied.
"There's a natural swing in the reservoir levels, and we have to pace the
plant so as not to overtop the reservoirs at their fullest point. We have to
vary our flow rates through the 24 hour period. There was a 12 hour period
during that time when we were operating the plant at 65 MGD. "How large are
the treated storage reservoirs?" Total storage is 34 million. Ray Herrmann
commented that you can't store it too long once it's treated.
Mike Smith related that the City is planning to expand to 74 MGD by next
summer, "so we are on the track to getting more capacity."
Mr. Caulfield went on to the next step involving possible restrictions. "As
you know," he began, the City Manager has the authority to call for
emergency restrictions." Mr. Caulfield raised the question with staff as to
whether the City shouldn't have a written statement or plan where it would
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know that if a problem did arise, or if we were short of treatment capacity,
that the city manager could declare some kind of predetermined restrictions
program to shave peaks. He acknowledged that we will have 10 MGD more
treatment capacity next year and it is doubtful that we will have another
episode as we had in July, so perhaps we could just drop the idea at this
point.
Ray Herrmann asked how many days we can run at capacity. "We think we can
sustain it through the season," Mr. Alexander replied. There is a
reliability factor, however. "You are depending on mechanical equipment, so
there could be problems, but we believe that we could sustain at 64 MGD."
If you look at the peaks, Mike Smith explained, even if your peak was 64,
it's very seldom that you have 2 or 3 days in a row that you would have that
same peak. Theoretically, you could have a 64 capacity and still deliver
66-70, but you are taking it out of storage and it is very risky to operate
that way, he stressed.
Tom Sanders suggested, if we continue this hot dry period, that we might
consider odd and even restrictions. Voluntary restrictions could probably
solve the problem if people began getting used to a schedule, he said.
Mary Lou Smith pointed out that it was the intention of the Conservation
Committee that the restriction policy we are discussing, is the kind of
demand management policy that her committee intends to address. It would
then be in place when and if we need to use it, she said. Shaving the peaks
would be part of that demand management policy; a drought management plan
would be a part of it also.
Mr. Caulfield pointed out that when Council adopted our water policy plan
last December, the Committee of representatives from the Water Board and
Council decided not to have a policy on restrictions. In other words, we
would build capacity rather than have planned restrictions. What we are
talking about here is an emergency type situation.
Mr. Caulfield asked why Denver is still following the diamond, circle,
square restriction program. "Don't they have adequate treatment capacity?"
Dennis Bode replied that it was voluntary, but that there are still certain
conservation goals that they are apparently falling short on. "It is also
part of the Foothills/EPAagreement," Ben Alexander added. Mr. Bode also
pointed out that Denver needed to even out their peaks but he doubts that it
saves much in terms of annual volume.
It appears that it is the sense of the Water Board to drop the issue of
restrictions at this time Mr. Caulfield stated, with the understanding that
the Conservation and Public Education Committee think about some kind of an
emergency restrictions plan.
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National Recreation Area Update
Copies of a staff memo on the National Recreation Area were included in the
packets. Linda Burger reported that City Council will be holding a work
session on August 8 to review the NRA report. (Note: That meeting was
subsequently postponed.) That review will be looking towards submitting the
report to Congress in October. It will be taken up formally by Council the
last part of August or the first of September which means if Water Board
would like to have input into the Council decision, it needs to take a
position today.
Ms. Burger has been working with the Planning Department on the issues that
were identified and discussed at the last meeting. Kari VanMeter and the
consultants have been working on making the changes Water Board and staff
asked for in the language of the report. "That is not yet available, but so
far we haven't discovered any areas where we have asked for things to be
expressed differently, and they have said no, so I don't anticipate any
problems," she said. "As you may have noticed in the press accounts, there
was a slightly different approach to this than we had been hearing earlier,"
Ms. Burger explained. The Planning Department believes that there have been
a number of issues identified. Those relating to utilities as well as those
brought up by property owners, etc., are complex and serious enough that it
is not appropriate to make a recommendation on designation itself at this
point. What they would like to do is request that the Board endorse the
report assuming that the changes that we requested are made and that we also
support a request for an additional study to develop the information in the
areas where we were the most uncomfortable; particularly the details of a
management plan for NRA which would address things like: What kind of a
management plan would assure appropriate water management of the river? What
kind of an arrangement with the other agencies would assure that a decision
about future wastewater treatment or water quality standards is handled in a
manner that considers the needs of the Utility as well as the needs of
recreation? Basically that is outlined in the long paragraph at the bottom
of the page of the memo, she pointed out.
Neil Grigg asked if the feasibility report takes a position on designation.
"No," Ms. Burger replied, "what it says is that designation is feasible if
we decide that's what we want." "So if we endorse the report, nobody can
imply that we are endorsing designation," Dr. Grigg said. "No, and I think
if you are going to make a statement you should make that clear," she
advised.
Ray Herrmann recalled that the action the Board took last time was to
endorse the staff recommendations. Has that changed? "Yes and no," Ms.
Burger replied. At that Point we were primarily dealing with amending the
report itself, and it is true you did not take the position of designation,
but you also said these are the issues, but we don't have enough information
to make a decision on designation. "We would like to see those issues
addressed." Mr. Caulfield asked if they have agreed to make the changes we
suggested. "Most of them. We haven't had a chance to discuss a couple of
them yet, Ms. Burger replied.
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The three major ones are spelled out in the memo to Skip Noe. Those issues
spelled out in the major paragraph have not been addressed. "The feeling is
that it's not possible to address those issues in this report, and those are
the ones that need to be taken up in the next phase of study," Ms. Burger
explained. The factual clarifications in the report have been agreed to,
she assured the Board.
Ray Herrmann moved that the Water Board accept the report with the
appropriate reservations; in other words that the Board accept the new staff
report.
The planning Department is not recommending to the Council that there be
designation at this time, Mr. Caulfield asked. That's my understanding, Ms.
Burger said. At this point, Neil Grigg seconded the motion.
Ray Herrmann clarified that the Board is endorsing the feasibility study
with the restrictions that staff has outlined in the memo; that paragraph
follows: It is staff's recommendation that the Board endorse the
feasibility report, with the condition that the requested changes will be
incorporated. We recommend that a position on designation not be taken at
this time since there are a number of unresolved issues concerning the
implications of designation. Rather, we recommend that additional
information be gathered in order to define boundaries, to develop a workable
management plan, and to draft the necessary intergovernmental agreements.
These three issues need to be addressed in terms of their impact on water
management and wastewater treatment.
Tom Sanders argued that he believes we are slipping into something that is
similar or worse than Wild & Scenic designation on the Poudre. He said he
"would probably vote against it because he is uncomfortable with this
without seeing something in writing."
Council member Loren Maxey said he thinks Council wants to know how this is
viewed by the different boards and commissions of the City, and what the
strong and weak points are about it. The Council wants to know all the
reservations. "The whole meal may look good on the surface, but if you have
to eat the bitter parts too, it can spoil the whole meal," he said. He
concluded that he doesn't think there should be any accepting of it with
doubts.
Tom Sanders was still concerned about the staff wording on the memo. Ms.
Burger said if the Board agrees, staff could draft a letter with Henry
Caulfield's signature that would be more specific about the major concerns.
Dr. Sanders said he would agree to that. A vote was taken and drafting of a
staff letter as stated and the motion were supported unanimously.
Committee Reports
Conservation and Public Education Committee Chair MaryLou Smith reported
that she has consulted with staff and the committee will begin to compile
some of the data that was discussed. She added that the committee isn't
planning to proceed immediately.
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Engineering Committee
Mr. Caulfield suggested that Paul Clopper, the new junior alternate, be
appointed to this committee. Mr. Clopper agreed to be a member.
Other Business
Mr. Caulfield announced that the Interim Committee of the legislature is
considering a Wild & Scenic bill by the state legislature that may be an
alternative institutional arrangement for what we have been talking about as
an NRA. He added that he is not advocating this. He suggested that staff
keep abreast of what's happening with the bill.
With regard to the discussions with the Fort Collins -Loveland Water
District, there was a letter in the packets to the chairman of the Board of
the ELCO Water District. The proposed new water treatment facility which the
Board heard about at the last meeting is on the topics listed in the letter,
as well as water quality, drought protection, etc. "We are asking them if
they would like to have a meeting to see if there are any similar areas for
mutual cooperation that could benefit both the City of Fort Collins and ELCO
customers. In other words, we are extending to the other potential major
supplier of water to City residents, namely ELCO, the same suggestions for
discussion that we are having now with Fort Collins -Loveland," Mr.
Caulfield explained. Mr. Caulfield, Gerry Horak and Loren Maxey agreed that
we should use the same committee that is meeting with Fort Collins -Loveland
to meet with the other Districts. There has been no reply to the letter to
ELCO so far.
Out of City Service Request
Webb Jones presented a request for out -of -city sewer service for property at
900 North Taft Hill Road owned by Warren Jordan. Water Board members were
provided copies of Mr. Jordan's letter requesting service and a map showing
the location of the property. Utility staff indicated Mr. Jordan's property
is approximately 1/2 mile out of the City limits, but within the urban
growth area. The staff pointed out that the mobile home on the site has been
connected to the sewer for some time, but the owner has not been paying a
monthly bill. This situation came to light when Mr. Jordan applied for a
county building permit to replace the existing mobile home with a newer one.
The staff recommended approval of the request providing the applicant signs
a standard out -of -City service request that allows the property to be
annexed when eligible, and complies with other applicable City procedures.
Tom Moore asked the Utility staff to confirm that no other buildings on the
site are connected to the City sewer. He then moved that the Water Board
approve sewer service to Mr. Jordan's property contingent upon execution of
routine agreements and procedures. Ray Herrmann seconded the motion.
Following a brief discussion, the motion carried unanimously.
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Continued Other Business
Henry Caulfield commented on an article in the newspaper talking about a 25%
increase in sewer rates. Mike Smith explained that staff drafted a memo for
Council. There were questions from the Council on our water supply which is
the subject of the memo, and that went out in their packets today.
Regarding the 25% increase, Mr. Smith said a draft memo was prepared and
someone got hold of it and made it public. "You will be getting a copy of it
when it is finalized," he assured the Board. He regrets that the press got
it first. It was a budget issue that the City Manager shared with the
Council to get their thoughts, he explained further.
Because of the expansion coming up, which we will discuss when the study is
completed, the wastewater rates will be going up 12% next year and 12% the
year after, Mr. Smith informed the Board. There is no more federal funding
for this kind of thing which means we are going to have to pay the whole
thing and that has an impact on the ratepayers; even though it is supposed
to be paid for by developers. The rate payers get caught because coverage
of the bonds must be met. Mr. Caulfield pointed out that there is a state
revolving fund. "We doubt that the City would qualify for that," Mr. Smith
responded.
Mr. Caulfield announced a "Cache La Trivia" contest sponsored by the
Historical Society and the Visitors Bureau in conjunction with the "New West
Fest" that will be raising money to help restore and preserve the historic
water works building on Overland Trail. He urged Water Board members and
staff to get teams together for the event. Mike Smith said that the City has
an architect working on a project to keep the building from deteriorating
further. About $65,000 has been appropriated for this purpose. "That doesn't
do anything but keep it from falling down," he stressed. The historical
Society is interested in raising some funds to encourage the City to do
something beneficial with the old building, he continued. There are several
ideas for its potential use.
Mr. Caulfield asked if there have been any complaints about the new septage
waste transfer station. Mike Smith said we haven't had any. Loren Maxey
said he could detect some odors at times when he has driven by, but he added
that he has "a very sensitive sniffer." Mr. Smith said staff would continue
to monitor it carefully.
Tom Sanders related that he could smell sewage in the lower Poudre River
recently when he took some students out there. "This is the first time in
15 years that I have noticed this," he said. It is obvious that the drought
and low flows have had an impact.
Dr. Sanders also requested an update on a proposed site for a new sludge
farm; perhaps at the next meeting. Dave Stewart reported that Tom Gallier,
Wastewater Treatment Manager, is working on that. RBD Engineering is
supposed to have a report ready within the next week or so. Tom Sanders also
wants to discuss the new incineration option related to that. Mike Smith
believes it will be ready for the Engineering Committee, so perhaps it can
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be put on the agenda for the August meeting.
Neil Grigg picked up some newspaper articles showing the way the English
police the wasting of water in their country. He found these articles on a
recent trip to England and thought that Water Board and staff would find
them interesting and amusing. He pointed out a letter from a fellow who was
complaining about his rates and "if you figure it out you will discover that
his family was using only 40 gallons per person per day." For that they are
paying close to $5.50 per 1,000 gallons. "That's pretty expensive water!"
Dr. Grigg also related that there was a fellow from Turkey at the conference
who reported what they have to do in Istanbul to meet the water supply. They
just make water available for 4 hours a day in their distribution system.
Then they cut it off. "That manages the demand," he laughed. "It makes us
feel lucky that we have a good water supply," he concluded.
Since there was no further business the meeting was adjourned at 5:00 p.m.
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Water Board Secretary