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Water Board Minutes
February 24, 2000
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PROPOSED SURPLUS WATER RENTAL RATES
Each year after the irrigation companies have established their annual assessment rates for water
shares, the Water Board recommends to the City Council, the rates to be set for the City's
surplus raw water. The Board received copies of tables in their packets showing the assessment
rates as set by the irrigation companies and the rental rates set by the City for 1998 and 1999, as
well as proposed rates for 2000. The per acre-foot price for the proposed rental rates were also
shown for 2000.
According to the background information, the proposed rental rates for 2000 were based on
several factors, including past rental rates in the area, current assessments, and anticipated supply
and demand conditions. With the exception of Colorado Big Thompson Project (CBT), Joe
Wright Reservoir and reusable effluent, water cannot be rented from one ditch company system
into another. Therefore, for these systems, the rental market is limited to individuals under each
ditch, and the rental price is largely dependent upon assessments as well as the supply and
demand within each irrigation system. This results in considerable variation in prices per acre-
foot among the various supply sources.
Beth Molenaar, from Water Resources, said that the only major change this year was in the price
recommended for Joe Wright Reservoir water and reusable effluent. The reason for the increase
is market rate. Recently, the City has seen a huge increase in requests for that water. "There are
a lot of substitute water supply plans out there." Apparently the word has circulated that Fort
Collins has that water available from Joe Wright. Water Resources staff contacted other
municipalities and found that some are charging upwards of $100 an ac-ft for reusable water.
Fort Collins has already received requests for 300 ac-ft for the 2000 water year, whereas last year
the City rented only about 60 ac-ft.
"Who do you get these requests from?" someone asked. "Primarily consulting engineers looking
to meet replacement requirements for gravel pits and other projects," she replied. "How much of
that water do we have in total?" Mrs. Molenaar said that it depends on the year, but usually the
City has about 500 ac-ft of reusable water from Joe Wright Reservoir available for rent. Much of
the water released from Joe Wright is reusable and goes to the water reuse plan every year.
"Do you have more requests for reusable water than what you have?" Robert Ward asked. "Not
at this point," Mrs. Molenaar responded. "If you get more requests for water than what is
available, how do you handle that?" Mr. Ward continued. "If we have more requests than we
have water available, we may do a pro-rata distribution so everyone gets a percentage of what
they requested. When requests are significantly higher than available supplies, as is often the
case with Water Supply and Storage Company, we use a `lottery' system," explained Mrs.
Molenaar. In the case of Joe Wright and reusable effluent, we must take a totally different
approach. This is because we are making a commitment to them ahead of time. They have to
turn in their substitute supply plans to the state ahead of the water year, which begins in
November. For example, November 1, 1999 began the 2000 water year. She said that staff needs
to determine how much water the City will be comfortable with releasing to substitute supply
plans. "If the requests are for too much water, it will be cut off," she pointed out.
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"They need to have that augmentation for the next year too?" Mr. Ward asked. "Yes and no," she
replied. "The whole idea of the substitute supply plan, is that it is a temporary source of water. If
the demand is not temporary, they are supposed to be coming up with a permanent plan for
augmentation. In the case of Top Hat Car Wash, they were doing a short-term remediation
project. They only needed the water for 2-3 years." "Does the City commit for 2 or 3 years?"
W. Ward asked. "No, we commit for only one year at a time," she answered.
The reason Mr. Ward was asking the question was that he has been approached by people from
the Natural Resources Board who have been very interested in having some certainty in the
agricultural operations in this area. He was wondering if the City's policy is running counter to
another group in the City that is trying to encourage consistent and viable ag. operations. "It
bothers me to think about having their operations dependent on our water," he said. "Have we
ever discussed the idea of having two, three or even five-year agreements, so there could be
some more certainty?" he wondered. "We have done that before. When we have acquired water,
we have entered into some ten-year lease -backs," Mrs. Molenaar answered. "Basically, they have
the first right of refusal to lease that water at whatever the rental rate, or sometimes what the
assessment rate was that year," she explained. "Those lease -backs have since expired. The only
ones that are still in place are really not lease -backs; they are homeowners associations that have
turned over raw water and have essentially entered into a perpetual agreement."
She continued by saying that what Mr. Ward may be thinking about is a method that the City
used years ago. Staff would go through the list and rent surplus raw water to whoever had rented
that water in previous years. Any remaining surplus would then be available to new renters. She
understood that, in the early 1990's, the City Council had asked that the rental water distribution
method be changed.
"Has Utilities staff discussed this issue with the Natural Resources staff or board?" Mr. Ward
asked. Dennis Bode said he didn't think there had been discussions with the Natural Resources
Board, but there have been other discussions in the community relating to the long-term
agriculture lease program. "I think that is a policy issue that we need to visit and determine if
there are any major hurdles. For example, there is some language in the Charter that may
discourage leasing on a long term basis," he explained. "It sounds like there is an interest from
the Natural Resources Board to try to make that all fit some way by trying, with our community
policies, to influence the way the landscape is," Mr. Ward stated. "Knowing the ag. community,
the one word I hear from them all the time is that they must have certainty. Here we are running
a situation where there is no certainty. I understand that we have goals that we want to achieve
too, that sometimes don't move us towards certainty," he acknowledged. "Maybe some broader
discussions with the Natural Resources Board staff will help."
Mrs. Molenaar explained that we have to be careful with that too, because there is some
uncertainty with the yields from our allotted water each year. "There is probably a certain
minimum amount that we could guarantee and could make available for lease each year, but we
can't guarantee the maximum," she explained. "But you could guarantee those shares, whatever
they might be that year," Dave Rau contends. Mike Smith answered, "not necessarily."
"Couldn't you write the agreement that way?" Mr. Rau persisted. "Say you get a half a CBT
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share whatever yield it is that year for rent?" "The agreement we want is that you get something
or nothing, because in some years we might want it all," Mr. Smith responded. "That's why we
rent it in the first place," Tom Brown remarked. Mr. Smith explained that staff decides in the
spring what the City needs, and if there is excess, we'll lease it out. "But there could be a year
where we don't want to lease any of it." "We have done that for CBT water the past few years at
the beginning of the rental season," Mrs. Molenaar pointed out. Mr. Smith said the ideal thing to
have, as with electricity, is an interruptible customer; "we can say, we'll rent you water but we
have the right to turn it off any time." Mr. Ward observed that there are all sorts of ways that
this could be woven together.
George Reed thinks it is a worthwhile endeavor to try to get some certainty, but he doesn't think
the City ought to be totally out of context. "We ought to be aware that most of the farming
community acts everyday with a lot of uncertainty. Most of the water they lease on an annual
basis, in commercial farming these days, they have only on an annual contract. A good part of
the land is either share -cropped or cash -leased, and in most of those arrangements the farmers
push hard to get a 3-5 year lease. They are buying large equipment and expensive items to farm
that land, so you can understand that they want something long term. We need to work with them
to try to secure those goals and those the City has for this area." "I just want to make certain that
something that we're doing is not causing another part of the City a problem. We need to work in
concert," Mr. Ward stressed.
Chairman Sanders asked Tom Brown if this might be something the Water Supply Committee
may want to look into. He wondered if the Board should re -visit the lottery system used to
determine who gets to rent water. With that system, there is no certainty at all. "Are you
balancing certainty against fairness?" Mr. Brown asked. "Those are two different goals," he
added. "If you are always renting to farmer "a" and not to farmer "b" because you have always
rented to farmer "a", farmer "b" never gets a chance," he pointed out. "Those are two goals you
have to consider." He said the Water Supply Committee discussed this issue several years ago. "I
guess we came out voting in favor of fairness, which is the lottery." "Did that hamper the
farmers' decision to sell the City water?" Dr. Sanders asked. "I don't know," Mr. Brown replied,
"but selling the water to us, I imagine was with a lease -back." Mrs. Molenaar pointed out that the
City hasn't actually purchased water from a farmer for quite some time. "We have our system set
up so developers turn in most of the water," Dennis Bode explained. "Farmers are looking at the
economics of selling that water versus farming and are willing to take a little risk from year to
year.
George Reed referred the Board to the fourth paragraph of the background information. He said
that North Poudre now has a policy of renting by ac-ft instead of a share basis. "Is that the
second or third year?" "This will be the third year," Mrs. Molenaar replied. Mr. Reed recalled
that the North Poudre Annual Report said that last year they had delivered 6 ac-ft per share (0.5
Early Ag, and 3.5 Multiple Use). He wondered if people who are renting water from the City are
getting that same spread. "Does someone have to rent early water from you in order to get any of
the rest of the water?" he asked. "No, and that's what is nice because we have some farmers who
just want to irrigate their hay. If they don't get a second or third cutting, they don't really care.
They will come to us and rent 10 ac-ft of early water and it's cheap water at $10 an ac-ft. Other
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people can't use the early water because they are growing corn, for example. They need the
water in June and July so they rent only the ag. water."
"What's the demand for Multiple Use water from North Poudre?" Mr. Reed asked. "Is it high or
low?" "It's quite small," Mrs. Molenaar replied. The City uses most of that water. "We rent
some occasionally, but very little."
ACTION: Motion and Votes
Bill Fischer said that he would abstain from the voting on the Water Supply & Storage Co.
shares, because he represents the company as their attorney, but he wanted to vote on the rest of
the rates. He requested that the Board vote on the rest of the rental rates first, excluding WSSC,
and then vote on WSSC second. George Reed moved that the Board recommend approval of all
the new rates except for Water Supply & Storage Company. Tom Brown seconded the motion.
The vote to approve was unanimous. Dave Rau moved that the Board recommend approval of
the new rates for Water Supply & Storage Co. Dave Frick seconded the motion. The vote was 7
in favor with Bill Fischer abstaining.
PARTNERSHIP FOR SAFE WATER AWARD
This item was postponed until the March meeting.
STAFF REPORTS
Treated Water Production Summary
Dennis Bode reported that for January the City used 1,590 ac-ft, which was about 5% above
what had been projected. The increased use was probably due to some outdoor irrigation because
of the warm, dry conditions. The mean temperature for January was over 5 degrees above the
long-term average, and there was only 0.09 of an inch of precipitation.
The Board received Snotel reports showing data for the Joe Wright Reservoir and Deadman
Hill sites. The snowpack at Joe Wright was at 95% of average as of 2/24/2000, and Deadman
Hill was 75% of average. "We continue to lag somewhat, but it has gone up in recent weeks,"
Mr. Bode concluded.
Dr. Sanders asked if we continue to use tri-district water in our system. Dennis Bode said he
thought we were back to using only City water at the present time.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
The only committee that met was the Engineering Committee.
Engineering Committee Report
Chair Dave Rau reported that staff member Susan Hayes presented a prelude to the Canal
Importation Basin Master Plan revisions that incorporate the new rainfall criteria. Staff is in the
process of continuing to get public opinion. Ms. Hayes expects to make a presentation to the full
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Water Board in April. Mr. Rau mentioned that Dave Frick suggested an idea at the meeting to
look further into ditch consolidation options, so the improvements won't cost as much. Another
item brought up was mapping what the floodplain would look like with those improvements if
we had another 1997 event. "This is a way of reminding people that we don't always stay dry,"
he remarked.
Mr. Rau continued by saying that the total cost for the Canal Importation Basin is up to about
$40 million from an original estimate of $22 million. "What is the estimated cost for the entire
City?" Dr. Sanders asked. Jim Hibbard said that the original figure was about $65 million. "A
third of that, about $22 million was for the Canal Importation Basin," he noted. Mike Smith
pointed out that we warned people when we raised the rainfall criteria that there was going to be
an impact. "Do we envision that these increases are going to be across the board?" John Morris
asked. "No, probably not, because this is one of our higher impact basins," Mr. Hibbard replied.
"Canal Importation is one that developed largely before the storm drainage criteria were in place.
There are other basins that were ahead of the curve, that we hope will have a lower impact."
Mr. Hibbard went on to say that the current Canal Importation Basin scope of work does not
include a Check Flood analysis, and therefore will not be completed by the April presentation to
the Board. "That is a significant undertaking," he emphasized.
Mr. Rau said another item brought up at the committee meeting was the need for considerable
detention in the Canal Importation Basin. "We shouldn't fool people that detention can be an
effective way of handling flows. When we start exceeding the design flows, sometimes the
outcome can be worse."
What impressed Dr. Sanders most about the presentation was the idea that, to protect these areas
from the100-year floods, most of the trees along the ditches will have to be removed. "That's a
problem that we may have to face with other entities."
OTHER BUSINESS
Announcements
Molly Nortier announced two events for Water Board members. On Thursday, March 16, 2000,
there will be a presentation to the Fort Collins Water and Electric Boards on the R.W. Beck
Survey relating to the Utilities Strategic Plan at 5:00 in the Utilities Training Room. Dinner will
follow. Also, the City of Greeley has announced the date for the join regional meeting of the
Greeley, Fort Collins and Loveland Water Boards and staff. The date is May 25, 2000. Details
will be provided when the arrangements are finalized.
Check Flood
Tom Sanders brought up the issue of the "Check Flood" for new development. "That's
something we talked about and agreed upon," he said. He thinks it is an issue that the Board
should have on its agenda sometime soon in order to determine if it should be a policy for new
development. He suggested that the Engineering Committee discuss the issue and bring back a
proposal to the Board. He added that we have a good design storm to look at. Dave Frick was
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concerned about all of the detention ponds, which could overtop and impact downstream. "At
least we could document where all of that is going to happen if, for no other reason, for
emergency planning purposes. It may force a developer to re -locate where they spill their pond,
and be aware of some other common sense precautions." Dr. Sanders concluded that, because of
the disagreements on the Board at this time, it appears to be an appropriate topic to discuss
further. He asked the Engineering Committee chair to set up a meeting.
ADJOURNMENT.
Since there was no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 3:50 p.m.
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