HomeMy WebLinkAboutWater Board - Minutes - 10/23/1997WATER UTILITIES BOARD MINUTES
October 23,1997
3:05 - 4:05 p.m.
Light and Power Training Room
700 Wood Street
Paul Clopper, Chairman; Alison Adams, Vice Chair, David Lauer, John Morris, Joe Bergquist,
Howard Goldman, Tom Brown, Robert Ward, Bob Havis (last meeting as member)
STAFF
Mike Smith, Wendy Williams, Gale McGaha Miller, Dennis Bode, Bob Smith, Molly Nortier
GUEST
John Bigham, Northern Colorado Water Conservancy District
MEMBERS ABSENT
George Reed, Tom Sanders, Dave Frick, Dave Rau (all excused)
Chairman Paul Clapper opened the meeting. The following items were discussed:
M[NUTES
Alison Adams moved that the minutes of September 25, 1997 be approved as distributed with the
following corrections: Alison Adams pointed out on page 12, last paragraph, second to last line,
Mr. should be Ms. and laughed changed to stated. Paul Clopper noted on p. 17, first para., line 6
that "pining" should be "pinning." After a second from Joe Bergquist, the corrected minutes were
approved unanimously.
Mr. Clopper announced, for those who had not been present at the September meeting, that the
Board agreed to combine the November and December meetings on Thursday, December 4th
since the November meeting date falls on Thanksgiving and in December it is on Christmas.
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John Bigham reported that there continues to be plenty of water in the system Granby has stayed
within half a foot of spilling since his last report. "Whenever we get down a bit, we have another
stomp" he said. The number three pump that was damaged in the explosion at Flatiron last year was
repaired and running. Then the cooling system went down, and for the last month or so, it hasn't been
operational. They anticipate that it will be back in service within the next week or so. "Other than that
we are in great shape," he concluded.
The draft work.plan was the same one that the Board approved in January 1997; the first one as a
combined board. The City Clerk's Office requires that each board and commission prepare a work
plan, due each year at the end of November. All the plans are forwarded to the City Council. The
boards and commissions annual reports, required by the end of January, are based on the work plan.
The Water Utilities Board work plan relates directly to standing committee work assignments.
Chairman Paul Clopper suggested that Board members offer changes as they proceed through each
section of the work plan. Under Water Supply, an item "F" was added: "Review and Update the
City's Water Supply Policy." Under Water Conservation and Public Education, Legislative and
Finance and Engineering, no new items were added. Under Liaison Issues, item "A," `which
adopt" was changed to "regarding." No changes were made in the Water Quality section. Under
Stormwater, item `S (1)" , "trends of was changed to 'TEMA." Three of the items under Other
Items were deleted because they have been implemented. One inclusive sentence, "Review and
consider, as needed, such items as may come before the Board," was added rather than listing a
number of specific items.
Considering the last three items, since there is no committee involvement, John Morris wondered
who would be taking the lead on them Mr. Clopper said that he didn't want the Board to think that
even the first five items would be limited to a committee function. "I think John Morris' comment
echos how I perceive this to play in 1998 for items 6, 7 and 8. There will be broader involvement by
the Board; for example, in the way the "white paper" item has been approached," Mr. Clopper
remarked. The Water Supply and Liaison Issues Committees have both been involved in the "white
paper" discussions and that includes a major portion of the Board.
ACTION: Motion and Vote
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David Lauer moved that the Board adopt the 1998 Water Utilities Board Work Plan as revised. Tom
Brown seconded the motion; the vote to approve the plan was unanimous.
Dennis Bode prepared a brief outline of the process for revising the Water Supply Policy.
He said that the first step is to define "what we want to do."
Water Supply/Liaison Issues Committees and Staff meet to discuss:
a. Desired contents of revised Water Supply Policy (WSP) report
b Issues to be addressed in report (try to capture some of the issues brought out in the
"White Paper.")
C. Depth of analyses and amount of detail (more definition from the Committees)
2. Committee meets periodically to review information, discuss issues, develop strategies and
provide input to Staff.
3. Staff updates and revises report concurrently with discussion of identified issues.
4. Full Water Utilities Board receives updates and discusses issues as needed.
5. Draft Water Supply Policy Report is presented to Water Utilities Board for review and
adoption of recommendations for consideration by City Council.
6. Water Supply Policy recommendations are discussed with City Council at a work session.
7. Water Supply Policy Report and recommendations are revised and reviewed as needed
following work session.
8. Water Supply Policy Report resolution is considered at regular City Council meeting.
Mr. Bode noted that it is expected that this process will take from 6 months to a year to complete
depending on the level of detail desired, the amount of interaction with others, and other staff work
priorities.
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Paul Clopper and Robert Ward said that the process looks straight forward to them. Mr. Ward added
that it provides a process by which the Board can begin to discuss a number of those issues and focus
on trying to articulate them in some way. "It may be that we can interface what we are doing here
with a number of others. He asked if someone knows at what phase the Metropolitan Water Supply
Investigation study is. Mr. Bigham heard yesterday that it is in the final draft. "It will probably be after
the first of the year before we get it," he said. Ms. Adams said she had heard that last year at this
time. Mr. Bigham responded that he isn't sure what the problem is: whether they are having trouble
drafting it, or whether they are just cautious about releasing it.
Mr. Clopper noted that no action is needed on this today. He advised the Water Supply and Liaison
Issues committee chairs to contact staff and committee members to set up a meeting. Dennis Bode
suggested that the Committees discuss how much detail and analysis is needed and come up with a
time frame.
"Will we consider this a process that continues annually or every two years, etc.?" Joe Bergquist
asked. Mr. Bode hopes that the Board and Staff will come up with something that is flexible enough
to last several years before it needs a major revision.
Mr. Clopper commented that some of the new items the Board has been discussing "are still
amorphous; recreational uses vs. environmental uses, for example. It will be interesting to see how
that will come out at the end of this process." "Ibe Metropolitan Water Supply investigation,
whatever that report says, will have a large impact on how we see our future water supply," Robert
Ward said. He also mentioned the pending three -state agreement. How that falls out will also have
some implications. He agrees with Mr. Bode that `%ve should try to realize that those kinds of changes
are occurring in our society, and we need to have a policy that incorporates some flexibility."
Treated Water Production Summary
Dennis Bode reported that for September, the City used 2,764 ac-ft of treated water which was 91%
of the projected average use. "Also, for the year, we are at 91% of average use," he said. The
precipitation is over 23 inches for the year. He looked back at precipitation records and found that
only one year, 1961, was greater than that for the annual total. In 1961 the total was 28 inches. "How
many years back did you look?" Mr. Clopper asked. "I began with 1960," he said. Tom Brown asked
the location of the gauge where the precip. was measured. "At the CSU main campus," Mr. Bode
replied.
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Update on Post Flood Activities
"Not much has changed since our last meeting," Mike Smith began. The City continues to wait for
decisions on funding options. "We may hear something by the end of November from HUD," he said,
"and a decision from FEMA may be after the first of the year." He and Bob Smith are still meeting
with some neighborhoods to work out certain issues. The big issue is waiting on the funding options.
Then we can begin looking at new development plans." "Is the City holding out some hope that it will
get some funding?" David Lauer asked."Yes, but we don't anticipate much money. HUD is the best
option for a larger sum of money to actually do some improvements," he added. If any money is
provided from FEMA, it might be for an early warning system or flood proofing, or something
similar. `But not arty money for mitigating where the damage started?" Mr. Clopper asked. "We may
get some money from HUD for that but primarily for the Canal Importation Basin and Old Town,"
Mr. Smith replied."Is there still a lot of clamoring for an early warning system?" Howard Goldman
asked. "Opinions vary on that," Mr. Smith said. "It will be hard to please everyone," he predicts.
"Realistically, how affective would that be in the same scenario that occurred that night where the
concentration was in the area of Spring Creek?" David Lauer wondered. "The only thing that could
have happened differently is a warning system involving flow information from various spots," Mr.
Smith responded. 'There is the potential that with that flow information, we could have warned the
people in the trailer park, but that's just hindsight," he acknowledged. "An early warning system
doesn't have anything to do with that; that's just data," Ms. Adams contends.
Bob Havis wondered if there has been some thought given to a central source where citizens with rain
gauges could call in from various parts of the City. 'There has been some discussion of that," Mr.
Smith replied.
Paul Clopper related that recently he met Glenn Levy, the Battalion Commander for the Poudre Fire
Authority. Mr. Clopper thought that if we have a meeting with a light agenda, we might ask him to
discuss the emergency response issues that night. "Mr. Levy said he would be happy to do that."
Regional 201 Study
Gale McGaha Miller reported that the consultant has generated a list of alternatives for capacity needs
for all the entities during the initial planning period until the year 2020. The complete planning period
is until the year 2040. "They looked at a variety of things. Many alternatives involved each entity
expanding its own land. Other alternatives included cooperating in smaller regional subsets and a full
regional facility," she explained. The consultant looked at all of those from an economic and non-
economic point of view and a timing and logistics point of view. "The bottom line is that nobody
needs capacity at the same time, and the City of Fort Collins is one of the last ones to need capacity,"
she said. "If our growth projections are right and if they follow previous long term trends, we won't
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need any additional capacity until the year 2019, whereas the South Fort Collins Sanitation District
is going to need capacity in 2002," she pointed out. She remarked that it certainly wouldn't make
sense for Fort Collins to go to a regional facility in 2002 for their sake.
"Some of these alternatives begin to shake out a little bit. It looks like the most reasonable economic,
synchronized kind of approach would be for each entity to do its own expansion. One possible
exception would be for South Fort Collins Sanitation District to send some of its additional flows to
Windsor because Windsor has extra capacity. Everyone has sufficient land to expand, but the
preliminary economic analysis shows that a regional facility is too expensive an approach." She said
that the group has not finished screening the alternatives, and that they need to complete a couple of
other tasks, "but that's the way it's looking right now."
The entire report is due to be finished in December with one last round of public presentations after
the holidays. "That will be on the agenda after the first of the year," Mike Smith added.
David Lauer asked if there was any factoring in of what that scenario might look like and how it
might change if there were other partners added; e.g. Loveland. "We asked Loveland to participate
early on and they were not interested, so our hands are somewhat tied that way," Ms. McGaha Miller
responded. On the other hand, that might be a good issue for an entity like South Fort Collins to look
into, as well as Windsor because their service areas logically could be connected. "It's completely
outside of the City's service area," she said. "Are there any significant players out there who aren't
partners to this study right now who night conceivably change their minds between now and the year
20199" Mr. Lauer continued. "Over that period of time, as growth takes place, it would be possible
for Wellington, Severance, Eaton, or someone else like that to get involved," she surmised. "We
didn't anticipate that all of those different communities would grow together over that period of
time." She said that the other community they tried to keep involved, which was difficult, was the
Town of Timnath. "All of those folks are on septic systems, and none of them are interested," she
stressed.
Paul Clopper asked about the potential regional site the City purchased a few years ago near
Ptarmigan "We aren't doing anything with that other than to continue to lease it, are we?" "That's
right," Mr. Smith answered. Ms. McGaha Miller said a lot of that land is not developable at the
bottom because it is in the floodplain. "There are some great ecological features. Open space money
could be used for portions of it. We haven't moved that far down the road to determine what we will
do with the land," she said. The site is 160 acres.
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None ofthe Committees had met since the last Board meeting. Because of the full agenda at the last
meeting, David Lauer did not give a report on the Conservation and Public Education
Committee meeting. His report follows:
Mr. Lauer said that the Committee mainly discussed mandatory metering and what they can do to
help that process along. The Utilities will begin installations on the west side of the City and move
east across town. There is still a backlog of volunteers that the Utilities are currently working on.
The Committee also talked about their work plan and came up with two items that they will discuss
at their next meeting scheduled at 2:00 on December 4th They invited Marsha Mimes, the Floodplain
Administrator, to the meeting to talk about stormwater management and how the Committee can be
involved in terms of public education. They decided to invite Kevin McBride, the Senior Stormwater
Quality Engineer, to do a tandem presentation with Ms. Mimes. The Committee briefly discussed
ways to improve the efficiency of automatic sprinkler systems, including continuing the daily lawn
watering guide in the Coloradoan. Staff is working on a brochure on efficient lawn watering.
Paul Clopper mentioned the Committee's discussion of the problem with the installation of meters
in duplexes. He also recalled that they talked about the use of different media for public outreach.
Staff is hoping to get the Coloradoan to do an article.
The Liaison Issues Committee didn't meet but its chair Alison Adams brought the Board up to date
on the Norther Colorado Regional Coalition of which she is a member. She said that the last meeting
they bad was in August. She briefed the Board on that meeting in September and provided minutes.
The next meeting should coincide with the NCWCD Fall Water Users meeting on Wednesday,
November 19th. Mr. Bigham announced that the District meeting will be in Longmont at the Raintree
Inn. After lunch the Coalition meeting will be held. Ms. Adams said that three of the Coalition
members will be making presentations at that meeting.
Robert Ward updated the Board on the Mayor's regional water group of which he is a member.
He announced two upcoming meetings:
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November 20 Jim Sullivan, County Commissioner from Douglas County, will speak about
some of the conflicts between land use and water, looking at how some of the
lessons they are learning may impact land use and water in northern Colorado;
a major goal is to protect agriculture.
December 5 Senator Ament will summarize the results of the interim legislative committee
on land and water, and what type of legislative thrusts he might be seeing in
this next legislative session.
The November 20th date appears to be firm. Senator Ament needs to be confirmed. Mr. Ward said
that these are opportunities to talk about some of the broader issues that we need to explore, and
"having these people here in our community can be very helpful."
Mr. Ward mentioned that at the last meeting the group reviewed a number of studies that had been
done in this area. "I thought it was interesting to go back and look at what is characterized as a $2.5
million study on water in northern Colorado that was done between 1985 and 1987. He pointed out
that there is a huge amount of information in those reports that quite often is not recognized. The
point was that we as taxpayers have $2.5 million invested in that data. Recently he saw the Senate
Bill 74 study that just came out. The state engineer and the manager of the Water Conservation Board
just compiled a large book ofwater information relevant to the South Platte Basin. The water supply
investigation is not yet out. "The point is that there is considerable information being pulled together,
and it would be good if we could somehow capture the essence of that information and bring it into
some of our thinking, especially as we begin to revise our Water Supply Policy," he concluded.
Mr. Ward announced that on November 6th there will be an all day meeting at CSU on the flood.
It will be held in the North Ballroom of the Lory Student Center. "The purpose of the meeting is to
try to synthesize the information that is available at this time."
Farewell to Bob Havis
Bob Havis was a member of the former Storm Drainage Board and the current Water Utilities Board
for a total of three years. He recently moved to Laporte which is out of the Urban Growth Area.
Board and commission members must live within the UGA, so Mr. Havis submitted his resignation
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from the WUB. Chairman Clopper read a letter of recognition (attached to the minutes) presented
to Mr. Havis. He was also given a gift certificate for dinner for two at a local restaurant.
Mr. Havis said he really enjoyed working with the Storm Drainage Board and the Water Utilities
Board. "I feel that I have learned more and gained more by the experience than I was able to
contribute," he said. He thanked everyone for making it such a positive experience.
A reception for Mr. Havis followed.
Since there was no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 4:05 p.m
Water Utilities'Board Secretary
WateWities •
Water Utilities Board
City of Fort Collins
In Grateful Recognition
To
ROBERT HAVIS
For His Dedicated Service to the Fort Collins Storm Drainage Board
and theWater Utilities Board
July 1, 1994 - September 1, 1997
The City of Fort Collins and the Fort Collins Water Utilities Board sincerely appreciate
your 3 years of service to the Storm Drainage Board and Water Utilities Board.
Although your tenure on the Boards was relatively short , your impact was significant.
You obviously earned the respect of your peers on the Storm Drainage Board, when
they elected you as their vice chairman. You also served in that capacity for a short
time on the Water Utilities Board.
You routinely attended extra meetings and participated in field trips and social events.
You demonstrated a commitment to the purpose and functions of both Boards.
The Water Utilities staff and other Board members thank you for volunteering your
services. We regret that moving out of the Urban Growth Area resulted in your having
to resign from the Water Utilities Board. We enjoyed working with you!
City of Fort Collins Water Utilities
th•
.Michael B. Smith, §eZne&rakl Manager
Fo Collins Water Utilities Board
Paul E. Clopper, Presid
P.O. Box 580 • Fort Collins, CO 80522-0580 • (970) 221-6681