HomeMy WebLinkAboutZoning Board Of Appeals - Minutes - 12/11/1986ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
December 11. 1986
Regular Meeting - 8:30 A.M.
Minutes
The regular meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals was held on Thursday,
December 11, 1986, at 8:30 A.M. in the Council Chambers of the City of Fort
Collins City Hall. Roll call was answered by Boardmembers Thede, Barnett,
Walker, Lawton, Lancaster, and Coleman.
Boardmembers Absent (Excused): Lieser
Staff Present: Barnes, Eckman, Brayfield
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
of November 13, 1986, Approved as PublighAd
The minutes of the November 13, 1986 regular meeting were unanimously
approved.
Appeal # 1770 Section 118-95 (A), by Ty Belcher, 310 S. College Avenue -
Approved with Condition.
--The variance would reduce the required setback from 15 feet to 0 feet
for a freestanding sign which does not have the required free air space
when located within 50 feet of a driveway. The sign is 36 square feet
per face and is for a Perkins Restaurant in the BG zone.
---Petitioner's statement of hardship: The existing sign is about 150
feet away from the building. The owner would like a new sign at the
driveway entrance. The right-of-way line is 23 feet from the curb, so
no traffic visibility hazards exist since the intent of the code is
met. The sign can't be taller because large existing trees would
obscure it. If it is moved back, the building and parking spaces
would hide it.
---Staff recommendation: Approval for the sign submitted with this
application.
No notices were returned. No letters were received.
Zoning Administrator Barnes reviewed the appeal stating that the petitioner
wishes to install a freestanding sign for Perkins Restaurant with only 36
inches of free air space. The existing sign is 150 feet from the driveway,
and they would like to place the sign in the island that has the flag pole,
closer to the entrance. The Code requires that the sign be setback 15 feet
from the right-of-way if it does not have 72 inches of free air space due
to traffic visibility concerns. Their contention is that if they go too
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high, then the visibility will be obscured by the trees.
Boardmember Walker expressed his concerns that pedestrian traffic could not
see around the sign, making it a hazard.
Petitioner Ty Belcher, of Gardner Signs, said that the proposed sign would
have a reader board sign for advertising specials, as well as the Perkins
logo. He was asking for a 0 foot setback. There was a 3 foot high base,
and the sign was set back from the edge of the base. The proposed sign
would be slightly smaller than the existing sign.
Boardmember Thede asked why they could not conform to the Code requirements
for free air space. Mr. Belcher replied that there is a "window" effect
caused by the existing trees and shrubs. If the sign is too high, the
trees would obscure it, and if it was lower, some existing hedges would
obscure it. Mr. Belcher explained that they planned to trim the hedges
down to three feet, but that would only help a little. Mr. Lancaster
pointed out that the existing street trees were rather unique in that they
were the largest Kentucky Coffee trees in town, and the City Forester would
not be too anxious to have them cut.
No one spoke in opposition to the variance.
Boardmember Lancaster asked if there was any way to move the sign to the
other side of the driveway. Mr. Belcher replied that there were plans to
expand the building and build a patio on that side of the driveway, and
moving the sign there would interfere with those plans.
Boardmember Barnett stated that he also was concerned with pedestrian
safety, and the the proposed location for the sign would block visibility
of cars pulling out of the driveway. Two alternatives would be to move the
sign to the north of the island or to move the reader board to the right of
the logo to give the sign more free air space.
Mr. Belcher stated that the reader board sign could not fit to the right of
the logo because they had to use at least 6" lettering to be visible from
the street, and a sign big enough to accommodate any kind of message that
would be extremely long and thin.
Boardmember Coleman raised the question as to how much visibility was
enough for pedestrian traffic. Boardmember Barnett felt that 15 feet would
be adequate for walking traffic, but more would be needed for joggers or
skateboards. Boardmember Walker pointed out that cars pulling out of the
driveway would be more inclined to watch for street traffic, not
pedestrians. Pedestrian safety was the issue, and he felt that the
variance as proposed was not acceptable because of this.
The Board asked why the new sign could not be located at the same spot as
the existing sign. Mr. Belcher replied that traffic going north did not
see the sign until they had already passed the driveway. They lost
business because of it. The business owner wanted the sign closer to the
building.
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Boardmember Barnett asked why they could not extend the island to the north
to take up one existing parking space. That would put the sign
significantly closer to the driveway, and ease the site distance problem.
Boardmember Barnett made a motion to grant the variance to reduce the
required the setback from 15' to 0' with the condition that the sign be
located 20 feet north from the north edge of the driveway, and that the
design conform to the plan submitted, for the hardship stated. Boardmember
Lawton seconded the motion. Yeas: Thede, Barnett, Lawton. Nays: Walker,
Lancaster.
The Board expressed its desire to have a standard to work with in
determining the required site distance for pedestrian traffic, and decided
to discuss it at the end of the meeting.
Appeal # 1775 Section 118-97 (D) 6 (E), by Leonard Maes, 140 S. College -
---The variance would allow a barber shop to have a revolving sign.
Specifically, the variance would allow an existing, traditional, red,
white, and blue barber pole to revolve. The barber shop is located in
the BG zone.
---Petitioner°s statement of hardship: The revolving barber pole is part
of Americana and shouldn't be prohibited. When the City required the
owner to shut the pole off, some of the customers thought the store was
not open, or had closed down. This is especially true since the shop
is in the basement, so people going by could not look in any windows to
see if the shop was open or closed.
---Staff recommendation: Approval
No notices were returned. No letters were received.
Zoning Administrator Barnes reviewed the appeal stating that the Sign Code
prohibits revolving signs. A variance was granted to another barber shop
at the October 1986 meeting to allow a barber pole to revolve with the
following conditions: 1) the pole be attached to the building, 2) it
should only revolve during business hours 3) no writing is allowed on the
pole, 4) it can only be used in connection with the barber shop, 5) the
pole can be no larger than the existing pole, 6) and that the variance for
the specific pole presented to the Board. There are similar hardships here
with the additional hardship that the business is in the basement and not
visible from the sidewalk or the street.
Petitioner Leonard Maes spoke in favor of the appeal stating that because
his business was in the basement, people could not tell if it was open or
closed. He felt he needed to have his barber pole turned on to show that
he was open. He said he had no problems with the conditions imposed on the
last barber pole variance.
Boardmember Lawton said he had no problems with turning the barber pole on.
The situation is similar to the last appeal. Boardmember Barnett stated
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that the silhouette of the sign did not change as it revolved, and it was
a slightly greater hardship than the last one granted,
Boardmember Lancaster made a motion to grant the variance for the hardship
stated with the same conditions at imposed on Variance # 1764, which are as
follows: 1) that the pole be attached to the building, 2) it should only
revolve during business hours, 3) no writing is allowed on the pole, 4) it
can only be used in connection with the barber shop, 5) the pole can be no
larger than the existing pole, 6) and that the variance is for the
specific pole that was presented to the Board. Boardmember Barnett
seconded the motion. Yeas: Thede, Barnett, Walker, Lawton, Lancaster.
Nays: None.
Appeal f 1776 Section 118-95 (A), by Mery Eckman, 800 Lemay - Approved.
---The variance would allow a 44 square foot per face groundsign which is
located within 50 feet of a driveway, to be setback 0 feet instead of
15 feet. The sign would advertise a tune-up shop and print shop in the
C zone.
---Petitioner's statement of hardship: This is a new subdivision. When
it was approved by the City, an additional 10 feet of right-of-way was
required, resulting in the property line being 20 feet from the curb.
A sign 15 feet from the property line would be behind the front of the
building and would not be visible. Since the right-of-way line is so
far from the curb, the intent of the code is met and the sign does not
present any visibility problems. A 44 square foot sign is the minimum
size that will work in order to advertise 2 businesses, especially
since one of the businesses is at the back of the building, and has no
street exposure.
---Staff recommendation: Approval for the hardship stated. On October 9,
1986, the Board also granted a similar variance for the property
directly to the south.
No notices were returned. No letters were received.
Zoning Administrator Barnes reviewed the appeal stating that the sign is
located within 50 feet of a driveway without the required free air space.
The right-of-way is 20 feet behind the curb. The sign is 16 1/2 feet
behind the sidewalk, so pedestrian traffic is not an issue. Mr. Barnes
stated that the property directly to the south also received a variance for
the sign to have a zero setback.
Boardmember Walker stated that when the neighboring business was granted
the variance, it was with the condition that if Lemay was widened, it would
be required to be brought into conformance with the Code or a new variance
be granted.
Boardmember Thede was concerned that the base of the sign could also be
used for signage. She suggested that the variance could be tied to the
design submitted to the Board.
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Boardmember Thede made a motion to approve the variance for the hardship
stated with the condition that if Lemay Avenue is widened, they would need
to obtain another variance or bring the sign into conformance with the
code, and that the sign face be no larger than indicated on the plan
submitted to the Board. Boardmember Lancaster seconded the motion. Yeas:
Thede, Barnett, Walker, Lawton, Lancaster. Nays: None.
Appeal S 1779 Section 118-61 (C), by Bob Mooney, 1090 E. Elizabeth -
Approved.
---The variance would reduce the required lot width from 75 feet to 50
feet for a new dental/medical office building in the BL zone.
--Petitioner's statement of hardship: The lot is existing.. with 70 feet
of lot width. For a new building to be built, the city will require an
additional right-of-way dedication of 19 to 20 feet, resulting in a 50
foot lot width. Nothing can be built without a variance. The property
is not in an existing subdivision, and a subdivision plat can't be
approved if a variance is not granted.
---Staff recommendation: Approval
No notices were returned. No letters were received.
Zoning Administrator Barnes reviewed the appeal stating that the property
is located on the northwest corner of Lemay 6 Elizabeth. The lot is
approximately 70 feet in width. Although it is a residential structure, it
is surrounded by commercial properties. City Code requires that no
building permit be issued for a building that is not in a recorded
subdivision. This piece of property is not in a recorded subdivision,
therefore for the proposal to demolish the existing residence and to
construct a new building, it would require an approved subdivision plat by
the City. The City would require an additional 19 feet of right-of-way
along Lemay before approving the plat. That 19 feet reduces the lot width
to 50 feet, and the BL zone requires a 75 foot lot width for any use. So
they are applying through the City procedures to do a subdivision, and the
first step necessary is to obtain a variance to reduce the lot width.
Boardmember Walker asked about the one foot setback from the building to
the property line on the east indicated by the preliminary plans. Mr.
Barnes replied that the only setbacks required by Code in this zone are 20
feet from an alley or a zoning district line. There are no alleys or
zoning district line here, so it could go to a 0' setback. Mr. Barnes
stated that the plan gives an approximate idea of how big the building will
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be and the location and amount
the Board was to consider the
layout of the property.
of parking. Boardmember Walker stated that
variance on width of lot, not the proposed
Mr. Barnes stated that the plan does show compliance with the parking code,
and the landscaping setbacks required. The parking lot is not big enough
to require interior landscaping, so at this point, based on their proposal,
only a variance on the lot width reduction is needed. If the variance is
granted, and the subdivision plat is approved, a detailed site plan showing
the exact building location, parking layout, and landscape plan will be
required.
Bob Mooney, project manager for the Architectural Group, spoke in favor of
the appeal stating that he was willing to answer any questions the Board
might have. Mr. Mooney stated that they planned to tear down the existing
building and build a new one. The developer would be required to widen
Lemay in front of his property, although there would be some reimbursed
costs.
Dr. Nelson Bachus, owner of the adjacent property at 1080 E. Elizabeth,
spoke in opposition to the variance. He stated that the variance was
asking for a reduction of about 1/3 the lot size. This severe a reduction
would lead to inadequate parking space. He met with Mr. Mooney, with
Larsen & Associate, and Mr. Allison, the builder, to express his concerns
and learn present plans. He learned that Dr. Hanwalt, an oral surgeon,
planned to build a 2500 - 3000 square foot office building with 6-7 parking
spaces. He felt that the building was too large for the lot and that the
amount of parking was inadequate for the size of the building. He thought
that spill -over traffic would end up parking in his lot. Mr. Bachus also
felt that the problem would be compounded if Mr. Hanwalt added an
associate, or if the building was sold to someone who had more employees.
Boardmember Lawton explained to Dr. Bachus that the proposed zoning
variance was for lot width only, not the square footage or the allowable
parking spaces. Boardmember Lawton asked if the project would be reviewed
again at some point in time. Mr. Barnes replied that this was probably the
last public hearing - this is a use by right in this zone and the parking
complies with Code, although a few things still need to be worked out. The
variance request is for lot width only, and the Board needs to discuss
whether or not granting the variance is going to create other hardships
which would be detrimental to the public good. Without the variance, no
subdivision plat can be approved, and nothing can be built.
Boardmember Thede asked if the size of the building was discussed during
conceptual review. Mr. Mooney stated that it was not discussed, but since
that time they met with Dr. Bachus to find out what his concerns were.
Although the earlier proposal was for a 2500 - 3000 square foot building,
Dr. Hanwalt has since decided that 2000 square feet would be more
realistic. By reducing the building to 2000 square feet, and moving it 10
feet further back toward the back of the lot, they could increase the
number of parking spaces to nine. The old city standards required one
space for every or every 250 sq. ft., or 4 per 1000 sq. ft. Nine parking
spaces for a 2,000 square foot building would more than satisfy the old
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requirements that Dr. Bachus was referring to. Furthermore, Dr. Hanwalt is
an oral surgeon, so that would generate less patient traffic than a regular
dental practice.
The Board asked Mr. Barnes to clarify the parking requirements. Mr. Barnes
stated that the new parking Code was adopted in March of 1980. For
non-residential use the requirements are two parking spaces for every three
employees. At that time the City made a decision to get out of the
business of telling people how much parking they needed for clients, and
Just to require them to provide parking for employees. Prior to that time
there were parking standards based on square footage of the building
depending on the use. The requirement for an office use of this nature was
one parking space for every 250 square feet of floor area.
Boardmember Barnett asked what the review process was for this plan. He
wanted to know if the building envelope and the actual square footage of
the building would be publicly reviewed at any time. Mr. Barnes replied
that the only public hearing after this deals with the subdivision plat in
which they deal with lot lines, easements, right-of-way dedication, and
development agreements. But it is not site specific as to what use goes
there, what type of building, how big the building is, how many parking
spaces, curb cut locations. All of those will be reviewed at the time of
building permit submittal.
Boardmember Walker stated that what has been submitted meets all parking
codes relative to the particular office that they're proposing. The
stipulation for parking is two parking spots for every three employees.
Zoning Administrator Barnes stated that the Board should be careful of
dealing with the number of employees for this particular use, because, as
Dr. Bachus pointed out, someone else could move into the building in the
future, with a different number of employees.
Boardmember Walker stated that based the existing parking code, the Board
really didn't have much to say about it. With 6 parking spaces, they could
have 9 employees. That would preclude any patron parking, but that's what
the law says. The concerns that are expressed about adequate parking are
well taken, but it is beyond their purview, and it really needs to be
discussed by the adjacent property owners to resolve the issue. Boardmember
Thede pointed out that the variance runs with the land, and if the variance
is granted it will always be there regardless of the use.
Boardmember Walker pointed out that the hardship is a legitimate hardship
in the sense that the City has decided that they want more right-of-way
from Lemay, and nothing can be done without a variance. Basically what the
Board is looking at here is just that issue. Mr. Barnett stated that if
this lot met the lot width requirements, it wouldn't be here at all, and
the same building envelope with exactly the same parking, could be built.
The lot width question does not have a great deal of bearing on the parking
question. The site is located by a pretty dangerous part of the street
because of the narrowing of Lemay, and a project that cleans it up is going
to be an improvement to the area. That's the reason why the City wants to
have that additional right-of-way width, and wants to have that part of
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Lemay reconstructed. The hardship stems from what the City wants to do by
cleaning the area up, so essentially this project overall is a good idea.
Boardmember Coleman asked if a business added employees, did the City have
a way of following up and enforcing the parking requirements. Barnes stated
that it could be enforced through complaints from adjacent property owners.
There was no way of knowing about any increases of staff, but the adjacent
property owners would notice and could file a complaint with zoning. The
situation would then he investigated, and compliance would be required.
Boardmember Lawton asked if the sign that is on the property would remain.
Mr. Barnes did not know but it would be included in the property's sign
allowance.
City Attorney Eckman stated that the Code requires that variances be
granted only if it is determined that there is no substantial detriment to
the public good. But if the parking requirements of the City Code have
been met, it would be indefensible to argue that there is a detriment to
the public good. Apparently this plan meets the Code requirements.
Boardmember Walker added that the Board needs to keep perspective on the
issue - this is a City imposed hardship on this piece of property, and
nothing can be done without a variance. Although it could be debated that
given the nature of the use in this area, City Codes are providing an
inadequate amount of parking, that issue needs to addressed between the
property owners, and need not be concerned as long it is stated that the
Codes are being met. There could be weakness in the Code, but we are not
here to make new Code, only to consider what exists.
Boardmember Thede expressed concern that this is the only chance for public
review of this project. City Attorney said that although this is the only
Board that reviews this, it still gets back to whether or not the Code
parking requirements are being met. And if the Board concludes that the
requirements are being met, je would have a difficult time defending the
conclusion that that it is detrimental to the public good.
Boardmember Barnett said that another important consideration is what
happens in this particular instance if the variance is not granted. The
Board should separate the use question, and take a look at the site as it
exits, and what its future is likely to be without this variance. The City
isn't going to get the right-of-way to widen Lemay, it won't have a
mechanism to do that without actually condemning the entire property. That
is not very likely to happen. The property in its existing situation is a
residence, and can't be a desirable place to live because it is at the
intersection of a major collector and an arterial, and is surrounded by
commercial property. So to get the property out of its current situation
and create some changes where Lemay Avenue can be improved, it's going to
require a variance.
Boardmember Lawton made a motion to approve the variance for the hardship
stated. Boardmember Barnett seconded the motion. Yeas: Thede, Barnett,
Walker, Lawton, Lancaster. Nays: None.
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Appeal # 1765 Section 118-43 (B)
Park Street - Appr
(C), (D) (R), (F), by Les Charvat, 244
---This is a request to have the Board consider granting a rehearing based
on new evidence to be submitted at this meeting. The variance request
was previously denied by a vote of 2-1 at the October 9, 1986 ZBA
meeting. If a rehearing is granted, the Board will then consider the
variance request to reduce the required lot area from 6000 square feet
to 2500 square feet, the lot width from 60 feet to 50 feet, the front
yard setback from 15 feet to 2 feet 8 inches, the rear yard setback
from 15 feet to 0 feet, and the street side setback along the north lot
line from 15 feet to 6 inches. The variances are requested to allow an
existing, illegal duplex in the RM zone to be brought up to code.
---Petitioner's statement of hardship: The present owner got the property
back through foreclosure earlier this year. He sold the property in
1979 to someone who illegally converted the building into a duplex.
Prior to that time, the owner lived in the dwelling and had a small
grocery store in the front part of the building. The present owner has
inherited this "duplex" and would like to make it legal. The lot and
building are existing.
No notices were returned. No letters were received.
Zoning Administrator Barnes stated that at the October meeting there were
only three Boardmembers present, so that he would review the appeal for
those who were not present. He stated that a duplex is a permitted use in
this zone. What makes this duplex illegal is that it was converted to a
duplex without receiving building permits for the conversion and without
receiving a certificate of occupancy to allow it to be occupied as a
duplex. There was much discussion at the last meeting and much confusion
over square footages of the building, layout of the interior, open space,
the fact that only one unit had access to the limited open space. Mr.
Charvat was prepared to present new evidence at this time and the Board
would discuss whether or not to grant a rehearing.
Lucia Liley, attorney representing Les Charvat, presented new evidence to
the Board as follows: She submitted detailed floor plans, both the present
floor plans, and the proposed floor plans. She stated that at the last
meeting only a sketch of the plot plan was available, which did not have
dimensions, square footages, and did not accurately represent the what the
present situation was or what Mr. Charvat was proposing to do. Ms. Liley
stated that in reviewing the minutes of the October meeting she felt that
much information necessary for the Board's decision was not available.
Further, Mr. Charvat did not know that he had the right to address
questions and clarify issues after he spoke for the first time.
Consequently, many questions went unanswered.
The Board reviewed the plans as submitted to the Board, and concluded that
there was enough new evidence to warrant a rehearing. The Board voted
unanimously to rehear Appeal # 1765.
Zoning Administrator Barnes then reviewed the petitioner's statement of
hardship. Mr. Charvat had owned this property for a good number of years
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and prior to 1979, the front of the building was a small grocery store and
the rest of the building was a residence. In 1979 Mr. Charvat sold the
property. The new owner converted this building illegally into a duplex.
He did not get building permits, and did not come before the Board to get
necessary zoning variances. Mr. Charvat got the property back this year
through foreclosure. He inherited this situation, and now would like to
keep it as a duplex and do some remodeling to it and make it more usable.
Therefore the need for all the variances. A letter was received from the
property owner just to the south at the last hearing. She did not have any
problems with the variance request, but she did suggest that a fence should
be put up along the lot line because the past occupants of the building
generally had a mess along the side of the building, and when they walked
out of the building, they often trespassed across her yard. The proposed
remodel does make provisions for a second entrance along the south side of
the house.
Mr. Barnes stated that most of the houses in this area are rental units.
There is an existing one car garage door opening onto Maple Street, which
will be widened to accommodate a two car garage. Typically the lots in
this part of town are narrow, 35-45 feet in width, and some 50 feet wide.
Most of the lots are over 100 feet in depth. This situation is similar to
what happened to corner lots in older part of town many years ago. People
had corner lots which were deep. and they sold off the back part of it
which fronted on another street. This created postage stamp size lots,
which are on corners throughout the older part of town.
Lucia Liley, representing Les Charvat, spoke in favor of the variance. Mr.
Charvat is proposing to spend in excess of $12,000 in materials alone, for
a major renovation of the existing duplex. He will do the labor himself.
The changes will consist of raising the roofline on the second floor,
adding dormers and windows to provide adequate lighting and to visually
open up that area and make it more attractive on the second floor. He will
add two new furnaces, a firewall between the kitchen area in unit two and
the garage, repaint the inside and the outside, completely replace the
countertops and add new bath tiles, re -do the garage, although not enlarge
it. It is presently large enough for two cars, but because it has a
partition blocking one side it is not usable for two cars at the present
time. So he would add sheetrock, and open up the partitioned area so that
it could house two cars with two separate entrances. He also proposed to
landscape, fence, and generally clean up and condition the outside and
patio areas.
Ms. Liley stated further that none of the walls in the interior need
replacement, because the major structural changes have long since been made
to this house so that it physically divided into two completely separate
living units. What Mr. Charvat intends to do is to take what's been done,
bring it up to code, and finish it, spending about $12,000 to make it an
attractive, livable duplex unit. In terms of the square footages,
apartment number 1 will have approximately 868 square foot net, and
apartment number two will have 863 square feet of living space. In
addition, the garage is another 337 square feet.
One other factor is that there is a 900 square foot basement which has been
used as some sort of living space. Mr. Charvat proposes to put the two new
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furnaces down there, a laundry room, and a recreational room, and use the
rest as tenant storage.
Ms. Liley said that if you look at the total square footages, it's not out
of line for typical duplexes and apartments in this part of town. In terms
of the garage and parking, there will be no additional lot space taken up
with parking and/or garage. The intent is to meet the City's requirement
for a duplex to have two off-street parking spaces.
Ms. Liley stated that Mr. Charvat planned to make the outside of the
property more useable by dividing the outside space into two patio areas
with fencing, and adding an entrance to that area for the second unit. Unit
#1 would have an access from the front, and then out to the sideyard. Unit
lit would have an access through the garage and out through the sideyard
also. Mr. Charvat proposed to landscape that area by adding some
shrubbery, and a fence. He's talked a lot with the neighbor to the south,
(adjacent to the patio area) and she was not able to be here today but she
did want to express her support of the project.
Ms. Liley addressed the issue of neighborhood compatibility, stating that
the lot is zoned RM and a duplex is a permissible use as are other multiple
family uses. If you look at this area you will find that all of those uses
exist. Across the street there is an older house which has been converted
into three separate apartments. Many of the houses rent out with the
basement rented also. So you have a number of different rental type
situations in the area. Mr. Charvat attempted to contact everybody on the
APO list, and he was successful with most of them. Everybody he did talk
to and showed the floor plan to felt that not only was it a compatible use,
but that it was an upgrade for the neighborhood. Three neighbors are here
today to speak in favor of the project.
Ms. Liley said that at the past hearing there was much discussion as to
whether or not Mr. Charvat had a legitimate hardship because the conversion
had been done illegally. There is a doctrine in zoning law which talks
about "unclean hands" and it basically says that if you create your own
hardship that's not a legal hardship and a board is entitled to disregard
It. But that's not the case here. Mr. Charvat does not have unclean
hands. He did not create the situation. The conversion was attempted
without his permission, without his knowledge, without any control at all.
He involuntarily acquired the property through a foreclosure proceeding,
and at that point the conversion was well underway, and no permits had been
obtained. Which is not to say that if he had the property he would not
have come in and applied for permits to turn it into a duplex, because
given its history, given the lot, and other considerations of the
neighborhood, a duplex may in fact be an appropriate use in that area. But
the point is the conversion was begun and he inherited the problem.
Ms. Liley pointed out that even if the building were to be used as a single
family dwelling, he would have to apply for exactly the same variances. In
the RM zone a single family and a duplex use are both considered the same
type of use and they both require the same minimum lot size, the same
sideyards, the same setbacks. He would not be in compliance with any of
those. So he would be asking for the same variances regardless of the use.
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Ms. Liley said that it was important to consider the fact that the
structure was built under a very different set of standards in 1924, if
there were in fact any zoning standards back then. It was a grocery
store/living unit. It would now be considered a nonconforming use if it
were still a grocery store. Mr. Charvat wishes to convert the building
into a conforming use - a duplex is a conforming use in this zone. The
building itself is nonconforming because of the setbacks --which can't be
changed. It's there. Many of the old corner grocery stores in the older
part of town have been converted to duplexes. Mr. Charvat has proposed a
workable plan for a difficult property.
Ray Tadlock, 222 Park Street, spoke in favor of the variance. He has lived
three houses south of Mr. Charvat's property for 39 years. The lots south
of the store are 50 ft. wide and 190 ft. deep. He has been a plumbing
contractor for 52 years and has worked in the houses in the neighborhood,
and they are nearly all two-family houses. He saw no problem in the
request - they've lived with the building the way it is and they think a
duplex is acceptable.
George Michaud, 343 N. Shields, spoke in favor of the project. He felt
that it would be an improvement to the neighborhood. He did not like the
present situation of a big vacant building in the neighborhood. He owns a
single family rental unit in the neighborhood. He saw no problem with
parking - there was much more need for parking when it was a store because
a lot of customers traded there. Mr. Charvat proposed a project that would
be an improvement to the neighborhood, and he was highly in favor of it.
June Grading, 227 Park, said she lived in the neighborhood for 36 years.
She said that as long as Mr. Charvat is interested in fixing it up she had
no problem. It is an eyesore now because the paint is such an ugly color.
Mr. Charvat said he would paint it so that it would look really nice on
the outside. Mrs. Grading thought that rather than it standing idle,
something should be done there. She knew Mr. Charvat, and felt that he
would do a good job remodeling it.
Mr. Charvat submitted a letter from a neighbor, which Mr. Barnes read to
the Board stating support for the project. (The letter is attached to the
minutes.)
Boardmember Lawton asked about a notice on the building that deemed it
unsafe. Mr. Barnes said that the notice was not due to any deterioration
of the building, it was because the conversion did not meet Code. Mr.
Charvat plans to correct the building code violations. He will need
building permits, and all code requirements will have to be met.
Boardmember Walker stated that he had a problem with the idea that if the
duplex was illegally converted, somehow that's a hardship. He felt that
the legitimate hardship was the fact that while in the RM zone this type of
duplex is allowed, this lot is an existing lot that does not conform, and
anything done to this property has to have variances because of the size of
the lot and the way the building is on the property.
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Boardmember Thede said that she had a problem with increasing the density
on this lot by making it two units. She would be more inclined to grant a
variance for a single family because of the size of the lot and the square
footage of the building. Mr. Barnes stated that it was already converted
into a duplex. Boardmember Thede stated that it could also be converted
back to a single family residence.
Boardmember Walker presented some density calculations, stating that the
density ended up to be about 34 units per acre. He felt that this pushed
the limits of what is considered to be RM zoning. On the other hand Mr.
Charvat has done a good job in preparing this - the layout is good, and he
has dealt with the neighborhood.
Boardmember Barnett stated that clearly a lot more thought went into the
design, the second entrance into the yard space is shown, there is a
resolution to the question of the open space. He was impressed with the
neighborhood support of the project and their opinion that there would not
be an adverse affect on the neighborhood. It is a nonconforming building
on a nonconforming lot. Mr. Barnett that there is a legitimate hardship.
It would be more desirable for it to be a single family, but to do that
they would be have to demolish the existing structure and start from the
ground up. He did not see any logical way to make the existing structure
into a workable single family residence.
Boardmember Thede asked if letters were sent again notifying adjacent
property owners about the rehearing. Mr. Barnes replied yes - and the
notice also stated that if a rehearing occurred, it would be done
immediately, and this would be the last opportunity for public input.
Boardmember Lawton stated that the reason the variance was denied the last
time was for lack of hardship. He questioned whether the hardship was
proved to be any greater than before. Boardmember Barnett stated that the
hardship was more apparent now that the plans were in front of them. At the
previous meeting he felt that the structure could easily be converted back
into a single family residence. The plans submitted clearly showed that
this was not the case.
Boardmember Walker felt that the hardship, more properly stated was that
nothing else can be done with the lot. The building exists. The question
is whether a duplex is an appropriate or too intense a use.
Boardmember Thede felt that the structure could be converted back to a
single family dwelling. It is too dense a use - too small a lot.
Boardmember Lawton said he had a problem with the variance because the
building does not fit in. There are many attractive homes in the
neighborhood setback from the lot line. This is the only house that goes
right up to the lot line. And a building of this size does not fit in the
neighborhood. He felt that it was good that the neighbors were here and
and are in favor of approving the facility, but the future use of the area
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needs to be considered. He felt that too many variances were needed for
this use.
Mr. Barnes replied that the building exists. The building may not fit in,
but but if you don't grant the variance it still exists. The design and
the color of the building make it stand out. Mr. Charvat has expressed
willingness to repaint the building and to do some changes, such as the
dormers windows, to make it blend in more with the other homes in the
neighborhood.
Boardmember Lancaster said it's the number of people living in the
structure that has the impact on the neighborhood. As a duplex, about two
people would live in each unit, and as a large single family dwelling just
as many people could be living there. Boardmember Walker pointed out that
taken to the extreme, as many as three unrelated individuals could live in
each unit, or any number of related individuals.
Boardmember Thede asked why it could not be improved to be a very
attractive single family dwelling. Mr. Charvat said that this is large
building for a single family dwelling. And he doesn't believe that you
could get anyone in there that would care if it was kept up. A duplex
would support itself financially, and whoever owned it would probably keep
the building up. Converting it back into a single dwelling with the four
bathrooms, two kitchens, would not be feasible, and would not support
itself economically.
Boardmember Coleman felt that as a single family dwelling, there is an
economic question as to whether the dwelling would be inhabited by people
willing to pay a rent suitable to maintain the quality of the establishment
on the part of the owner. A duplex would allow the owner to rely on two
sources of income, which would better maintain the building. A duplex,
while maybe not as desirable, would be more desirable than a vacant
building. And rather than choosing between a duplex and a single family
dwelling, the choice seems to be between a duplex and a vacant building.
Considering the neighbors support of the project, Mr. Coleman found the
duplex to be acceptable.
Boardmember Lancaster made a motion to approve the variance for the
hardship stated. Boardmember Barnett seconded the motion. Yeas: Barnett,
Walker, Lancaster. Nays: Thede, Lawton.
Other Business: The Board asked Mr. Barnes to discuss the issue of site
distance as it relates to pedestrian traffic with the city traffic
engineer, and to make some recommendations for standards.
Respectfully submitted,
IA
Peter Barnes, Staff Support
Lloy Walker, Chairman ��