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HomeMy WebLinkAboutBuilding Review Board - Minutes - 01/26/1989BUILDING REVIEW BOARD MINUTES January 26, 1989 MEMBERS PRESENT: Ron Baker Chris Allison Dennis Sinnett Doug Johnson Harry Cornell MEMBERS ABSENT: Bill McCaffrey Raju Jairam Richard Conard Thomas W. Hartmann STAFF PRESENT: Felix Lee Debbie Zeigler The minutes of the December meeting were unanimously approved. Dana McBride's application for a Class B license/certificate came before the Board at the December meeting. His file held design references only, no construction experience. The Board tabled his application until ref- erences were submitted demonstrating construction supervision experience. The Board said they might consider Dana for a Class D license/ certifi- cate, but would wait to talk to the applicant. Dana is a Colorado licensed architect. Dana McBride expressed his frustrations regarding licensing to the Board. He said his experience in construction goes back to high school which was fifteen or sixteen years ago. Dana started out as a carpenter and tract house development. He then went to a two year voc-tech engineering school which trains contractors. He was given practical and field train- ing of the actual trades from pouring concrete to installing electrical systems. He has worked for architects and contractors. He stated his experience is not just design experience. It lies in the design through construction. He feels it is a fine line between supervising and observ- ing which is a requirement on many of his contracts. As an architect, he is liable for what is on the drawings and what is being built. Dana felt it is an injustice to architects to make a vast difference between design and construction experience. If the concerns of the public are health, safety and welfare, Dana said the City of Fort Collins would be well served by professionals being contractors. Dana has been employed by David Anastasio, a contractor, to do full architectural services and they have done 2 million dollars worth of work. Working as a team with a contractor has given him additional insight as to what needs to done as the contractor. Boardmember Johnson asked if Mr. McBride could come up with references demonstrating supervision. Dana responded that his first supervisory duties were with Jackson Hole Ski Corporation building condominiums. The company is no longer in existence and would have proved approximately n BRB Minutes January 26, 1989 Page 2 eight months of supervisory experience. He has built a house for his brother and worked closely with the sub -contractors, but there is no one to verify because he has always worked for himself. Dana named several other large projects that he has observed or supervised but didn't feel ?!OUId be a�5 `^ °r, onrc.5 for. Boardmember Baker said that he has worked in construction for many years and just because he has observed work and has a professional license doesn't make him qualified to be a general contractor. He told Mr. McBride that the Board, long ago, decided to quit taking professional licenses, either architectural or engineering, in lieu of general con- tracting experience. Mr. McBride asked if Mr. Baker was saying that the working experience of an architect is worthless. Mr. Baker said no, that he hadn't said that but felt that architectural experience had no bearing on a persons abil- ity to be a general contractor and that as an owner he would not select an architect to build a Class B building just because he is an architect. Boardmember Baker reaffirmed that the Board was in the dark about all of Mr. McBride's experience because to this point he hadn't documented any of it for his file. If it were documented the Board would have no prob- lem in approving Mr. McBride for a Class B license/certificate. Dana described several large projects that he is now working on which require presence on the job site. Boardmember Johnson asked if Mr. McBride would be satisfied with a Class D license/certificate until he could provide references showing Class B experience. Mr. McBride said that would be fine. Boardmember Johnson made a motion to approve Dana McBride for a Class D license/certificate. The motion was seconded by Boardmember Cor- nell. Motion carried unanimously. Michael J. Weinland was approved for a Class C-01 license/certificate. Rick Armitstead applied to the Board for a Class D license/certificate. Rick has worked for Tri-Trend for the past 8 months as a framer. All of his other experience was in concrete. Boardmember Allison made a motion to allow Mr. Armitstead to test for a Class D license/certificate. How- ever, approval for that license will not be given until two addition ref- erences are submitted. The motion was seconded by Boardmember Cornell. Motion carried. Poudre Fire Authority gave a presentation on the hazards of underground fuel storage tanks. They requested the Board's endorsement of proposed fire code amendments to improve underground storage tank safety that is going to Council next week. After Council approval, Poudre Fire Author- ity will come back to Building Review Board with more detailed explana- tions on the proposed licensing. The Board voted unanimously to endorse Poudre Fire Authority's proposal on underground tanks. Felix Lee brought a draft of the proposed regulations on natural gas fireplaces that will be going to Council on the 7th of February. He pointed out that this was just to keep the Board apprised of the proposed BRB Minutes January 26, 1989 Page 3 regulation, not to ask for their approval. He pointed out that this would not affect any existing units, only prohibit new wood burning fire- places. Felix also reported that he is not �avirn any luck recruiting code chance committee members. Ted Beers was the only volunteer responding from the newsletter that was sent out. He asked that one board member volunteer to serve. Harry Cornell volunteered to serve on the code change commit- tee. The meeting was adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Ron Baker, Chairman Felix, e'e, Staff Liaison