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BUILDING REVIEW BOARD
March 29, 1995
Minutes
Members present:
Mike Sutton (arrived
Harry Cornell
Charles Cotterman
Mark Goldrich
John Meleski
Rudy Hansch
Members absent:
Susan Kruel-Froseth
Staff Present:
Felix Lee
Ann Chantler
Staff Liaison:
Felix Lee
Council Liaison:
Ann Azari
approx 1:20pm)
The meeting was called to order by vice chairman Cornell and was
turned over to chairman Sutton approximately 1:20pm.
The minutes from Februarys meeting were approved with a
correction.
Charles Crihfield appeared before the Board requesting a Class D
license only. He stated he has been in Fort Collins for one year
and nine months. He was in the military service for 10 years prior
to that. He stated he wanted to establish Premium Homes as a entity
and get a license only for his company and hire qualified
certificate holders to work under him. He stated the experience he
had in the military should be sufficient to obtain a contractor
license in Fort Collins.
Building Director, Felix Lee stated the ordinance requires the
contractor must have built and completed at least three houses. Mr.
Crihfield did not supply any documentation that he had built any
houses.
Board member Cotterman stated Mr. Crihfield needed more
documentation.
Mr. Crihfield stated he had to start somewhere and so he wanted his
license so he could build houses. Mr. Crihfield stated he has
visited with the Building Department on two occasions and via those
conversations resulted in appearing before this Board.
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Building Director, Lee, stated he had spoken to the applicant and
told him to he needed to supply project verification forms, to him
he could not grant him a license with the lack of information he
was supplied and if he wanted to further appeal this decision, Mr.
Crihfield could appear before this Board.
Mr. Crihfield again stated all he wanted to do was to establish his
business as an entity and get a license, not a certificate.
Mr. Lee stated again, both the license holder and the certificate
holder need to supply documentation that they have built at least
three houses.
Mr. Crihfield said he thought this was a two step process: one step
was to get the license and the other to get the certificate holder.
He only wanted the license. He added that he was been using Excel
Design and Build as the license holder of record on three houses he
is building.
Board member Cornell asked if the Board could .get some
documentation from Mr. Ryan of Excell Design and Build.
Board chairman Sutton stated the ordinance was very clear and very
black and white. A license/certificate holder must have documented
they have built at least three houses and get job verification
forms from either engineers, architects or the owners.
Mr. Lee reviewed the ordinance 15-156 regarding license/certificate
holder requirements.
Mr. Crihfield asked the Board how he could get started without a
license.
Board chairman Sutton stated licenses are granted on a regular
basis, the City of Fort Collins is not a training ground for
potential contractors and public health and safety are very
important factors. He added there are numerous ways to get
experience.
Mr. Crihfield stated again he wanted to focus on just getting a
license, not a certificate.
Board chairman Sutton stated the Board looks for experience of the
person. He explained that a person building a house needs the
experience to be sure the house is built according to safety codes
and standards.
Mr. Crihfield stated the experience he had in the military as an
officer should count towards that experience.
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Board chairman Sutton stated again Mr. Crihfield needed three
references as a project manager on three houses. He added this
Board does have some leeway on looking at other experience, but Mr.
Crihfield has not supplied this Board with any proof of any kind.
Board member Cornell suggested the Board move on to a vote.
Board member Cotterman moved to deny this appeal. Board member
Goldrich seconded the motion.
Mr. Crihfield stated he should be able to start his own business in
this town and get a license to do so.
Board chairman Sutton stated this was not a business license.
A call for the vote:
Abstain: Meleski, Yeas: Cotterman, Cotterman, Hansch, Sutton,
Cornell, Goldrich. The motion passed.
David Jestus appeared before the Board requesting a special one
time license to do a building larger than 7500 sq. ft, Avert. Mr.
Jestus currently holds a class C license.
Mr. Jestus submitted a letter to the Board from the owner of Avert
requesting that Mr. Jestus be considered for this appeal.
Mr. Jestus stated the "Avert" building constructed steel and block
and 2 stories. He stated he built the same building in Loveland-
"Coppergate Plaza", and therefore has the experience for this size
and type of building.
Board member Goldrich moved to approve this appeal for a one time
exemption and allow Mr. Jestus to build this one building, Avert.
Board member Cotterman seconded the motion. Yeas: Meleski,
Cotterman, Hansch, Sutton, Cornell, Goldrich. The motion passed.
Board member John Meleski presented additional information to the
board regarding the roofing ordinance. He stated the mayor
requested the Building Review Board and the Poudre Fire Authority
Board review the ordinance.
Board member Meleski requested the Board make a motion to adopt a
two page document he wrote on recommended changes to the roofing
ordinance. Board member Cotterman stated he felt the document was
too detailed wo make it into a motion. He further added he would
like the Board to hear Mr. Pretz's (Poudre Fire Authority Fire
Marshall) opinion of the changes Mr. Meleski had suggested.
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Board member Meleski moved that the Building Review Board recommend
to City Council that they amend the ordinance 189 to adopt the same
ordinance as Larimer County has for Class C roofing.
Board.member Cotterman asked to have the motion clarified.
Board member Meleski moved that the Fort Collins Building Review
Board hereby withdraw this recommendation for or approval of
ordinance #189-1994 section 5-27 of the code, further the Building
Review Board recommends that the City Council immediately revise
this ordinance by adopting Larimer County's "Class C" roofing
standard.
Board member Cornell seconded the motion.
A call for the vote:
Yeas: Meleski, Hansch, Cornell, Goldrich. Nayes: Cotterman, Sutton.
The motion passed.
Additional Items:
Felix said he has talked with the chairperson of the Commission on
Disability and they were still working the "accessible units"
issue.
The meeting was adjourned.