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Minutes: Regular Meeting of March 16, 2005
Council Liaison to the Board: Councilman Bill Bertschy
Staff Support to the Board: Jerry P. Brown, Manager of Golf at 221-6350, and Dawn
Worth, Administrative Aide at 416-2265
Call Meeting to Order: Board Chairperson David Johnson called the meeting to order at
7:00 p.m. at the SouthRidge Clubhouse.
Agenda Review: There were no changes to the agenda as printed.
Items of Note:
♦ Jerry stated that he had the Board and Commission Annual Report packet that
included the Annual Reports for every Board and Commission and that it would be
available if anyone was interested in reading it.
♦ David Johnson introduced new Board member Deron Grothe who was appointed to
replace Vanessa Kabel.
Approval of Minutes: On a motion by Larry Buckendorf, seconded by Jay Kammerzell,
the Board unanimously (8:0) approved the Minutes of the January 19, 2005 Regular
Meeting.
Citizen Participation: No Citizen Participation at this time.
Board Input to City Manager on 2006/2007 City Budget Preparation
Jerry mentioned a cover memo that he provided the Board as well as a memo from the
City Manager. The memo is asking the Board what they would like to recommend to the
City Manager about the budget process. In April the staff will receive a Budget Manual
stating what the rules are for putting together a budget. Staff will put a proposed
2006/2007 budget together by the end of May. The City Manager will then submit his
recommended budget to Council in September and Council will adopt the final budget by
November 30th. Jerry stated that the grocery tax item on April's ballot could impact the
budget. The Board needs to submit their input to the City Manager by April 25th. David
Johnson asked if anyone had any questions in regards to the memos Jerry provided
Lauren DeRosa was wondering if the ballot issue was to pass if it would effect what the
Board recommends to the City Manager. Jerry stated that as an Enterprise Fund he didn't
think that it should directly effect us, but it could possibly effect us indirectly because the
costs of services we receive from other City departments could increase to make up for
their loss of revenue, or a higher General Fund Transfer Fee could be implemented.
Jerry informed the Board that City Manager Darin Atteberry has provided the Council
with four budget cutting options, however there may be new Council members elected in
April and we don't know what kind of emphasis they may have. Jerry stated that we just
don't know at this point what is truly going to happen. Grant Sherwood suggested that
the Board keep the recommendation they provide to the City Manager simple. Dan Preble
feels the Board should wait to make their recommendation until the April election takes
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place. David Johnson recommended that we bring it back for the April 20th meeting.
Jerry reminded the Board that they would then need to adopt something at the April
meeting.
2005 "Fort Collins Fore Kids" Golf Clinic
Jerry stated that the Golf Board had a great deal of involvement in starting the program.
This is the only recreational -type program that we in the Golf Fund run that's not part of
what the Golf Professionals do. The clinic is now in its ninth year. Last year we
established a capacity of 120 kids and a $2.00 registration fee. This year the clinic will be
at 8:15 a.m. on Tuesday, June 7th at City Park Nine. There will be an opening welcome
and the kids will then be divided into three groups, putting green, driving range &
chipping green. The kids receive a packet of information, a certificate for 25% off a
series of junior lessons, swimming and /or skate pass from the Recreation Division, and
free ice cream provided by Walrus. Jerry asked that Board members participate in this
year's clinic. Jay Kammerzell asked how we got financial support for this program? Jerry
mentioned that originally the Board raised money, but now we use funds from the Golf
Budget. He stated that we are no longer allowed to put up flyers in the schools so we buy
advertisements in the newspapers. Deron Grothe asked if this was also published in the
Recreaor? Jerry said yes. Dan Preble mentioned that he helped register the kids last year
and everything went fine.
20002007 Golf Fees and Charges
Jerry discussed a conceptual memo that he provided the Board in January as to where
staff was looking at going with 2006/2007 Golf Fees and Charges. Since that time Jerzy
and the staff have refined several things. Jerry stated that they were trying to get the fees
more symmetrical. In January, based on the market, we were suggesting raising the 18-
Hole Prime -Time rate by $2.00 which would raise the fee to $28.00 and increasing the
rest of the 18-Hole Green Fees by $1.00, dedicating $1.00 of the increases to the
Surcharge. This will bring our 18-Hole Surcharge Fee to $5.00. This information has
remained the same. He also mentioned that we had a Surcharge shortfall, which is why
we wanted to increase the Surcharge. Our 18-Hole Green Fees are in the lower 10% even
with the increase. We are one of the few courses with quality facilities that are still under
$30.00. Jerry has also recommended increasing the 18-Hole Non -Prime Time rate by
only $1.00 to create a $3.00 differential instead of a $2.00 differential between Prime
Time and Non -Prime Time. There's a $2.00 difference between the 9-Hole Prime Time
and Non -Prime Time rates and this now creates a $3.00 difference on the 18-Hole rate.
Based on local market conditions Jerry feels that we should leave most of our 9-Hole
rates the same as they are our "bread & butter," and because our 9-Hole Prime -Time rates
are already generally near the 60th percentile.
The 10-Play Punch Cards are priced based on a 15% discount off of the Prime Time
Green Fee rate, which was adopted by the Board and approved by the City Manager.
Since the 9-Hole Green Fees stayed the same those rates also remain the same, but the
18-Hole Rates increased so those 18-Hole punch cards rates also increased. Jerry
suggested that the Annual Pass Base Rate remain the same in 2006, and in 2007 we
would raise it. It would go from $450 to $500 and $225 to $250. If we raised the Per Play
Fees to $4.00 and $7.00 we would be in the real high range when compared to other
municipalities, so we decided to keep those Per Play Fees the same. However, we
increased the discounted rates by .50 cents for 9-holes and a $1.00 for 18-holes to cover
the Surcharge. (Note: We moved folks Age 75+ from being with Adults to now being
with those Age 17 and under, meaning their Per Play Fees will actually decrease by .50
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cents for 9-Hole Rounds and by $1.00 for 18-Hole Rounds.) Finally, we felt that the Golf
Carts Rental Rates needed to be raised, but not all of them. The biggest change we've
made is discontinuing the medical golf cart rate, and since we've implemented the Single
Rider Golf Cart rate we find that ifs not necessary to also have a medical cart rate. Jerry
mentioned that if this is approved, a letter will be sent out to everyone with a medical cart
letting them know that this program will be ended. Jerry stated that as far as he knows we
are the only courses that offers a medical cart discount. Our overall golf cart rates are
generally average compared to other golf courses.
Lauren DeRosa asked if the Single Rider rate has increased revenue any? Jerry stated that
it's hard to tell since it's only been implemented since August. He has heard from the
courses that there are players that do enjoy that option. Collindale Assistant Golf
Professional Pat Finnegan mentioned that those players who know it's an option use it.
Grant Sherwood asked how many Annual Passes have been sold? Jerry said that there
were 256 Annual Passes sold last year and we have sold 127 thus far this year. David
Johnson asked if the passes still ran through March? Jerry mentioned that we modified it
so instead of being February 28 it is now January 31. Dan Preble asked if the same
applied for the 10-hole punches. Jerry said that they don't ever expire; however, when the
fees go up you have to pay the difference.
Jerry stated that next month is the Public Input Meeting so whatever the Board approves
tonight will be published in the newspaper and that's what people will come to discuss at
the April meeting. David Johnson stated that he feels it's still a fair deal. Jay Kammerzell
said that he also agrees. Jay stated that it seems like people's lifestyles aren't allowing for
them to play much golf and that the back 9 of SouthRidge lends itself to playing 4 or 5-
hole rounds. He asked if anyone has thought about marketing this? Jerry said that staff
has previously talked about it and that City Park Nine lends itself to three holes. A lot of
Annual Pass holders do this already. Jay asked if it would be worth considering it for a
set rate? Jerry said that the logistics don't necessarily lend themselves to this, and
scheduling is an issue. Jerry doesn't feel that this is something we should push for
because we need to look at what other courses are doing about this. Jerry doesn't feel that
Collindale lends itself well. David Johnson also feels that there would be a big problem at
SouthRidge because there wouldn't be a clear view of the players. SouthRidge Assistant
Golf Professional Doug Perry stated that people might just keep playing. David Johnson
also stated that we would possible loose revenue if we couldn't allow someone who wants
to play more holes to play. Jay said if you know for sure that there was an opening you
could give them that option. Jerry said he wasn't sure what the demand is for that. Doug
isn't aware of anyone asking. Jerry said that staff would explore it. Jay feels that it might
bring in some more revenue.
Lauren asked about the increase in the Per Play Fee rate for Juniors? Jerry said they are
already paying half of what the adults are paying and the increase seemed reasonable.
Lauren said that there may be an issue. Jerry stated that Juniors are still getting a
significant discount and he was trying to balance the Surcharge. Jerry said that if we
didn't have a problem with funding the Surcharge he probably wouldn't be recommending
this. There was no further discussion. Then, on a motion by Larry Buckendorf, seconded
by Grant Sherwood, the Board unanimously (8:0) approved the Recommended
2006/2007 Golf Fees and Charges for Public Input.
Election of Golf Board Officers for 2005/2006
Jerry noted that David Johnson is currently the Board Chairperson and he has just
finished his second term, Mindy Markley is the Vice -Chairperson and Lauren DeRosa is
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the Board Secretary. Jerry stated that David's term expires at the end of December and he
is eligible to be re -appointed. David mentioned that he is planning on being back and he
would accept the nomination. On a motion made by Dan Preble, and seconded by Jay
Kammerzell, the Board unanimously (8:0) approved to re-elect David Johnson as
Chairperson for another term. David Johnson then made a motion to nominate Larry
Buckendorf as Vice -Chairperson, seconded by Grant Sherwood. The Board unanimously
(8:0) elected Larry Buckendorf as Vice -Chairperson. On a motion made by Jay
Kammerzell, and seconded by Grant Sherwood, the Board unanimously (8:0) approved to
re-elect Lauren DeRosa as Board Secretary.
Other Business
♦ David Johnson welcomed Council Member Bill Bertschy, and he mentioned that Bill
is the Board's Liaison and he is running for Mayor in the April election. Bill
mentioned that this could be his last meeting and that he has been the Golf Board
Liaison for about 8 years. Jerry stated that Bill has been an outstanding liaison to the
Golf Board.
♦ Jerry mentioned a memo from the Police Department and from the Division of
Wildlife allowing us to do a number of things to prevent Canada Geese from being on
the courses. The preventative measures taken that are a part of the Noise Ordinance
have to be conducted during daylight hours and if we receive complaints well have to
cease. The Division of Wildlife and the Police have given us permission to egg addle.
If egg addling takes place we have to send out a report to the Division of Wildlife.
♦ Jerry mentioned a flyer on Tournaments/Outings that went out to the 7,000 members
of the Chamber of Commerce and others. Jerry said that we've already had some calls
on it. Larry Buckendorf asked if the Chamber is still going to have their tournament
with the City. Jerry said they will be playing at Collindale on June 13 and ifs the first
time ever that they've held a tournament at one of our City Golf Courses.
♦ Jerry mentioned that Shirley Hansen is back as President for the City Park Nine
Women's Golf Association.
♦ Jerry stated that the revenues were slightly down the first two months this year, but
that they were better than last year. Jerry stated that the courses were doing pretty
good until the snow, and hopefully things are progressing like they are supposed to.
Jerry told the new members the May numbers are a good indication if we are going to
do good for the year. Prior to 2004 we sold more Annual Passes in the first couple of
months in the year. Those numbers reflect greater sales. Next month we are going to
also provide a quarterly status of expenditures.
♦ Grant Sherwood said that at the Golf Expo in Denver, both Greeley and Loveland had
someone there promoting play. Jerry stated that with Collindale Golf Professional Jim
Greer being there we didn't feel that we needed to put up a booth because of the
expense. Jerry said that the City doesn't have any merchandise to sell. He mentioned
that Greeley just received $480,000 from their City Council and Loveland has about
$35,000 for marketing, and our budget is only $4,000. Jerry said that because of the
merchandise this works for them. The City of Fort Collins doesn't own the
merchandise, the Golf Professionals do.
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♦ Jerry noted that Loveland is starting to switch their Pro Shop operations as they just
had anRFP last year for the Olde Course, and the professional that had been there a
number of years didn't win their bid. They plan to bid Mariana Butte later this year.
Adjournment:
On a motion by Deron Grothe, seconded by Jay Kammerzell, the Board unanimously
voted (8:0) to adjourn at 8:02 p.m.
Meeting Attendance
Board Members
Larry Buckendorf
Lauren DeRosa
Deron Grothe
David Johnson
Jay Kammerzell
Dan Preble
Grant Sherwood
David Thilmany
Respectfidly submitted,
Dawn Worth
Administrative Aide
staff
Jerry P. Brown
Dawn Worth
Guests
Dwain Bloyer
Rob Dahl
Pat Finnegan
Jay Morgan
Doug Perry