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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning And Zoning Board - Minutes - 04/02/1968MINUTES OF MEETING • PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD CITY OF FORT COLLINS, COLORADO April 2, 1968 Call to Order: Chairman Don Stuart called the meeting to order on April 2, 1968 at 7:30 p.m. Members Present: Ken Pastor, Charles Rhoades, Don Stuart, Marcile Wood, Tom Bennett, Tom Coffey, City Manager, Art March, Jr. City Attorney, Bob Engelke, Assistant City Planner, and Gene Allen, City Planner. Item #1 Minutes for meeting of March S, 1968 were read and approved. Item #2 #22-68 Consider Community Development Plan (Preliminary Master Plan) for Lexington Green Subdivision involving 212 lots with R-L, Low Density Residential Zoning. #23-68 Consider plat of Lexington Green Subdivision Second Filing involving 26 lots with R-L, Low Density Residential Zoning. Bob Engelke: Presented the areas and asked for comments or questions. Located tentative park development to the east. Don Stuart: No motion is necessary on this plan. (Accepted). Bob Engelke: This is a second filing. He located church site and described the area. • Mr. Jones: We didn't know if it would take formal action on a Preliminary Plan. Don Stuart: A Preliminary is accepted with no motion. Art March: Questioned the width of the utility easements, which should appear on the plat. Ken Pastor: Moved recommendation to City Council for approval, with corrections showing easements. Charles Rhoades: Seconded the motion. All Ayes. Item #3 #21-68 Consider Fuqua - Arbogast Subdivision consisting of 15 lots with R-L, Low Density Residential Zoning. Bob Engelke: Presented subdivision. Consideration of a Final Plat and there seems to be no particular problems. Charles Rhoades: Questioned the dedication of Lake Street. Bob Engelke: Mr. Miller dedicated the street on the Elliott - Miller Subdivision Fifth Filing, but it is not dedicated to the west. Charles Rhoades: Moved acceptance of the plat subject to correct identification of Lake Street. Marcile Wood: Seconded the motion. All Ayes. Item #4 #20-68 Consider Elliott - Miller Subdivision Eighth Filing involving 10 lots with R-L, Low Density Residential Zoning and 2 lots with R-M, Medium Density Residential Zoning. Bob Engelke: Gave presentation on consideration of the Final Plat, consisting of 10 lots with R-L, (Single Family Dwellings) and 2 lots with R-M (one, two or multiple family dwellings). Explained that the R-M area was disapproved previously due to d . ffLANNING AND ZONING -OUTES Page 2 • April 2, 1968 half streets. Stated that Mr. Miller will proceed with • curb, gutter and sidewalk. Rather than accept a 12 foot dedication the City should ask for additional dedication of 28 feet to the City. This would require the property owners to the south to dedicate their half. Tom Bennett: Why ask for the reserve? Bob Engelke: To insure the other half of the street. Would like approximately 2 foot reserve dedicated to the City to be held in escrow, as Mr. Miller does own additional feet. Tom Coffey: Who owns the land south of that? Bob Engelke: There are several people. Don Stuart: Have they indicated they will cooperate? Bob Engelke: Yes, most of them have. Marcile Wood: By dedicating they would be assured of having a street. Ken Pastor: Is Mr. Miller agreeable? Bob Engelke: Yes, he is. Gene Allen: Not all people are ready to dedicate at the same time, but should be eventually. Don Stuart: No rezoning is required on this. Charles Rhoades: Moved subdivision be accepted with dedication as recommended. Tom Coffey: Seconded the motion. All Ayes. • Item #5 #19-68 Consider Rezoning Petition involving 0.12 acres from R-H, High Density Residential to B-L, Limited Business. Bob Engelke: Presented the item and explained that a request Tor variance before the Zoning Board of Appeals is what brought this rezoning about. Was illegal in the way it was being proposed under the Zoning Ordinance. Rezoning of B-L, would apply specifically to the shops. Described the area as a peninsula of R-H, in a B-G area. Felt is would be a desirable change. Don Stuart: Could you describe this area in specific dimensions? Bob Engelke: The one area is 76 feet by 32 feet and the other one is 25 feet by 116 feet. These two areas fall within the proposed shop areas. Don Stuart: How much of the total floor area does this cover? Bob Engelke: It covers 1/4 at the most, and is located within the arcade on the east wall back about 8 feet. We propose to put a 10—foot height limitation on this. Gene Allen: Height limitation would be noted and a change in the ordinance may be required but we do not feel so at this time. Don Stuart: We would have to recommend to City Council as per the legal description. Gene Allen: Yes. Art March: I think legally this can be done. A parking problem is not involved here. Bill Vigor: Designed for apartments and could not be easily used for offices or anything else, for that matter. There are at least 170 parking spaces as well as parking behind the lot. Marcile Wood: How many apartments are there? PLANNING AND ZONING-•NUTES Page 3 • April 2, 1968 Bill Vigor: There are 105 apartments. We will provide • whatever the City requires as far as parking, but do not feel there will be any problem. Tom Bennett: What does the suggestion of air space mean to you? Gene Allen: Apartments are not permitted in a B-L zone. Mrs. Parking is definitely a problem. I have to park in the alley and so do any people who come to see me. I have to park in the alley now, so why do we need shops here? They can go downtown to shop. Dr. Walker: My patients often have to park a block away, but I have no objections to the apartment building. Marcile Wood: High rise was built before the zoning regula- tions were put into effect. Bob Engelke: We aren't affecting possible parking problems by any means. Don Stuart: Are there any other comments? Tom Coffey: If we were to go into three dimentional zoning on this, could we change to another district? Art March: R-B would do basically what this is talking about. Tom Coffey: What would be the objection to going to a R-B zoning? Art March: Would be more logical as far as I am concerned. R-B would allow apartments and business uses both with no problems. Gene Allen: Personel service shops is the only difference in R-B and R-H. • Bob Engelke: Stated that Mr. Vigor would go along with any proposal the board could come up with which would meet his desires. Tom Coffey: If we had R-B you could limit businesses more. Tom Bennett: Does anyone feel that R-B should be looked into? Gene Allen: I prefer B-L since it is adjacent to a B-G zone at the present time. We have enough different categories in our Zoning Ordinance to take care of Fort Collins at present. Ken Pastor: I suggest that the Planning Office investigate further and study the R-B zoning. Gene Allen: The proposed zoning is in compliance with the Zoning Ordinance. Ken Pastor: Moved to recommend approval with a height limitation of 12 feet. Marcile Wood: Seconded the motion. All Ayes. Item #6 #15-68 Consider proposed industrial development for North College Industrial Corporation involving 3 lots with I-L, Light Industrial Zoning. Bob Engelke: Gave the presentation of the Preliminary Plat. Explained a minor problem in providing a 30 foot set back which was corrected by curving the property line. Ken Pastor: Is there a problem with Fire Code? • Bob Engelke: Fire Code problem has been resolved, our main concern is to get the property line 30 feet from the building. Don Stuart: No motion is necessary on this item. PLANNING AND ZONING-ONUTES Page 4 • April 2, 1968 Item #7 #14-68 Consider Rezoning Petition involving 3.1 acres from • R-L, Low Density Residential to R-M, Medium Density Residen- tial and 2 acres from R-L, Low Density Residential to R-P, Planned Residential. Bob Engelke: Presented the area to be rezoned and asked for questions? Charles Rhoades: Asked to be excused during discussion of this petition. Don Stuart: Called for proponents to present their case.. Bill Wyatt: Originally the petition was heard by the Planning and Zoning Board and recommended the area be rezoned to R-P. City Council then referred it back to the Board for an amendment to be filed where as four acres were deleted which is now the R-L area which will be left as is. This petition is for 3.1 acres rezoned to R-M, 2 acres to R-P and the balance left as R-L. Orm Sherwood: Spoke on trends and the need of apartments in Fort Collins. Presented the number of homes expected to be established in the United States in the future, and number of house holds established for multiple family housing. Presented excerpts from the Denver Post on zonings recommended for apartments, and showing the trend toward multiple family housing. Spoke from the Economic Base Study on the number of apartments, need for more apartments, and average of units built. Presented a map showing present zoning in the area, and what is now proposed. The rezoning • request would result in 5 acres of R-M, 2 acres of R-P, and 4 acres of R-L. The number of units in R-M would be 100, 24 units in R-P, and 16 units in R-L. The R-M zone would be used as garden type apartments and R-P as townhouses. In the use of the R-M area 56% will be open area, 23% for building utilization, and 21% for parking. I feel the breakdown is good and we are creating buffers between each area. We have changed our concept in terms of density, height, and building design. Bill Wyatt: This particular zoning is not to try to single out a specific area, but merely an extension of the present R-M zoning against our area which is involved. Area is well buffered by the park to the south. This park is created by tax dollars for maximum use by our citizens. This park located to high density development will give maximum return from our tax dollars. Edwin Miller's letter to the Planning and Zoning Board was then read in which he stated he had no objections. Morris Bristol: Was asked by Mr. Miller not to put a trailer court in this area several years ago, however, Mr. Briston was in favor of the petition in question at this time. Paul Hollsinger: In favor as it will improve the neighborhood. Doyle Kincaid: Concerned with the growth of Fort Collins, completely in favor. Melton Johnston: Stated he saw no objection to the previous • presentation and definitely seens no objection to rezoning as it is now proposed. Density has also been reduced. Don Stuart: Called for a ten minute recess. Don Stuart: Called meeting back to order and asked to hear from the opponents. PLANNING AND ZONING ANUTES Page 5 • April 2, 1968 • • C , J John Kochenberger: According to the Zoning Ordinance it states "no request is granted a rehearing unless new evidence is submitted." I feel that the rules of the board have not been complied with. Jim Duney: 1909 Busch Court -Opposed to zoning, and stated he looked for a home in the area where zoning would not be entered into. He would not have bought here had he known area would be rezoned. Dr. Egan: 1913 Busch Court - Was aware of zoning and inquired about it in the area, which was R-L and was to remain as such. Commented on several statements made by Orm Sherwood and Bill Wyatt. There are many children playing in Spring Park and the increase in automobiles created by the zoning would prove to be hazardous. Very much opposed to zoning. Ralph Kotich: Opposed to zoning, as he desires more open space. Dean Duncan: 220 Stuart - A school teacher who is opposed to zoning for the following reasons: 1. There is a need for open space for recreational purposes. 2. Community property which should not in any way belong to a realtor. 3. No exit in the planning to the south. 4. Could be a fire hazard if the firetruck had to travel down Stuart Street. 5. Traffic would be a definite problem. 6. Realtors are out for money rather than a concern for what they can do for the citizens of Fort Collins. Mr. Doriety: 224 Stuart - Opposed to zoning. Gene Allen: Was asked to point out various areas around Spring Creek. He stated what they were zoned previous to the adoption of the Zoning Ordinance in 1965. In 1965 we did not have an official Plan for Progress as we now know it. John Kochenberger: Gave evidence of various petitions previously presented for rezoning in this area which were denied. Jerry Warren: 308 Dartmouth - Opposed to zoning due to the site. Felt it was not a good site. Harold Guy: Apartments should be built with concentration on the campus and student housing. John Wright: 1900 Busch Court - Also opposed. Mrs. Dean Duncan: High apartments should be located else- where besides the center of the City. Bob Walters: 424 Stuart - Opposed. John Kochenberger: Those opposed were asked to stand - show of approximately 42 people. Nine times the City has denied this area rezoning, and it remained as Low Density. Asked the board to the deny the present rezoning petition. Bill Wyatt: Stated there was exact compliance with the zoning regulations, and they did not fail to do so as Mr. Kochenberger had stated. The many times the petitions were turned down, it was not for this specific area, but to areas around it. Actually, eleven changes have taken place in this area since the adoption of the Zoning Ordinance in 1965. Don Stuart: Called on Mr. Allen for comments. Gene Allen: Stated that 4,000 to 5,000 people could be expected to be served by a neighborhood park. College Avenue and the PLANNING AND ZONING ANUTES Page 6 0 April 2, 1968 railroad serve as travel barriers. Based on the Guide for • Growth we have been able to develop and obtain good park sites. Substantial amendments to the petition and has been treated as a new hearing. It actually was never withdrawn. Densities are less than under the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Board. I feel the access in and out of the property is good. I do not feel the park is used to its full capacity at this time. The area is well served by schools and in walking distance of the property in question. A city either grows or declines; they do not stay in a specific state indefinitely. John Kochenberger: Questioned Gene on previous zoning which was changed in 1965 by the Zoning Ordinance. Dr. Egan: Asked Gene to review the zoning changes from 1965 To present. Gene Allen: One annexation from FA (County request to R-M). Total park area is 16 acres. Tom Coffey: I don't see how the land in question could ever develop into park land. Edora Park will take pressure off Spring Creek Park. With the price being asked for this land, it would be difficult for the City to obtain it for park land. Don Stuart: Called for a motion. Ken Pastor: Moved that the proposal be recommended as presented. Marcile Wood: Seconded the motion. Ken Pastor: Called for vote on motion. All Ayes Vote five to zero, Charles Rhoades abstained from • voting. Item #8 #13-68 Consider ways and means of processing rezoning request. Bob Engelke: Read Section 21.1 plus the proposed addition. We are attempting to amend the Ordinance, not the By -Laws. We merely want to give the By -Laws greater strength. Art March: Could the Planning and Zoning Board make a recommendation to City Council for requests taken to Council? Tom Coffey: Any amendments the proponents might desire to make should be done before the nine days. Mr. Michel: Need for the rules. Don Stuart: Item was tabled for further consideration. Item #9 Meeting adjourned. U Respectfully submitted, "' _ y�A`��� �. � f✓�' "ice.• � ,�. Robert 0. Engelke ,. Acting Secretary