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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning And Zoning Board - Minutes - 11/20/1978Board Present: Staff Present: Legal Representative: PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTES November 20, 1978 Phyllis Wells, Robert Evans, Ed VanDriel, Gary Ross, Gary Spahr, Charles Unfug Charles Mabry, Paul Deibel, Jo Frank, Cathy Chianese, Sue Chiley, Ken Waido,Nancy Ryan Don Deagle Phyllis Wells: Called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m, and explained why the necessity for a seond meeting this month and the importance for citizen input. 1. #167-78 Cunningham Corners P.U.D., Preliminary Plan. Description: Proposal for a mized Commercial and Residential P.D.D. on 39.2 acres zoned H-B (C) Highway Business, and R-P, Planned Residential located at the northeast corner of West Horsetooth Road and Shields Street. Applicant: c/o Les Kaplan, 528 South Howes, Fort Collins, Colorado, 80521. Paul Deibel: Gave the following staff comments for the boards consideration: Significant revisions have been made to the plan subsequest to the November 6 Planning and Zoning Board meeting. These include: a. elimination of fast-food drive-in restaurant; b. provision of additional detail with respect to apartments, townhouses and patio homes, (Building elevations have been submitted); c, revision of layout in townhouse area to provide for overflow parking and to improve the streetscape; d. revisions to traffic circulation along access from Shields to the H-B area. With respect to the staff comments concerning general layout discussed at the November 6 meeting, we feel that the revised plan does respond to our concern about the buildings in the apartment area by revising the site plan to indicate a higher variety of facade and exterior treatment. (Additional measures should be taken in this respect of the final plan to preclude the possibility of low variety at high intensity.) No changes have been made, however, in the overall layout of the commercial area, (except for elimination of the drive-in restaurant), or in the distribution of open space. data for final utility plan review; b. A detailed drainage report should be submitted with final plans. Alternatives to discharge of runoff into the New Mercer Canal should be pursued; c. Participation in cost of 24" water mains in Shields and Horsetooth will be necessary. F. Apartments. Final site plan should indicate buildings in the apartment area with a relatively high degree of variety in exterior treatment (facade, rooflines, appurtenances and other architectural details). was from the arterial intersection. Charles Mayhugh: Answered 40' from R.O.W. line. Phyllis Wells: Asked what type of treatment was planned for the miniature golf course. Charles Mayhugh: Answered 18 holes to north and 18 to the south, using the existing trees and additional plantings. Ed VanDriel: Asked about feasibility of moving the location of convenience retail uses (located in hexagonal building) closer to the other businesses. Ed VanDriel: Felt that a restaurant would be drawing from outside the area. Robert Evans: Same feelings as Phyllis Wells. The project has gotten away from youth oriented concept, felt that pedestrian orientation could be a lot better. Gary Spahr: Felt proposal was a good use of land, but also questioned whether all the uses met the zoning agreement, and that the restaurant was the worst offender, along with the retail store. Also saw some problems with open space. Charles Unfug: Felt that pedestrian orientation of proposal was fine. Felt that project would provide an appealing family oriented recreational project. Page 2 P & Z Board Minutes ` Nov. 20, 1978 Specific comments are as follows: 1. General Layout a. Open space. While the staff recognized the difference between the demand for open space amenitites between the lower density and higher variety units on the site, we nevertheless feel that additional active recreational open space should n a Page 4 P & Z Board Minutes November 20, 1978 Q a) Staff Recommendation y a The staff continues to feel that the plan would be improved by reworking the commercial areas and the distribution of open space. If the Board agrees, then it should recommend a denial.. if the Board does not feel that these are critical drawbacks, then it should recommend approval subject to staff comment U3 above. ets Page 6 P & Z Board Minutes November 20, 1978 Q a) •ive Charles Mayhugh: Said it would be possible, but would eliminate some parking areas. The bowling alley has heavy demand for parking. Phyllis Wells: Said that doing so would justify shared parking. Noted overabundance of parking on site. Gary Ross: Said zoning was set up for commercial parking. Thought it should be left as it is. Mr. Crimasa - 3622 Richmond Drive - Asked about the approximate cost of homes to be built. -Y 3f 1 Page 8 P & Z Board Minutes November 20, 1978 (ja) .me Robert Evans: Said he was concerned about the separation in the commercial area. Phyllis Wells: Put the restaurant in the bowling alley. Gary Ross: Wondered if uses were really all that far apart. Asked how far it was from the restaurant (on Horsetooth) to main uses to the north. Paul Deibel: 250 feet to 300 feet. Gary Ross: Thought the project would work. Indicated that the proposal was subject to a zoning agree- ment approved by the City Council subject to a number of previous hearings at which a bowling alley and skating rink, etc., were specifically discussed. Gary Ross: Moved for approval of proposal subject only to staff comment #3, (not #1 or lit concerning layout and open space, etc.), and also subject to the additional condition that final plans for this project come back to the Planning and Zoning Board for review. Vote: NO - Robert Evans: Felt that the project was not in line with original conditions of H-B zoning, also questioned lack of pedestrian orinetation and distribution of open space. NO - Ed VanDriel: For much the same reaons as Robert Evans. YES - Gary Ross: Felt that the proposal was consistent with original zoning decision, and that additional back- ground on conditions of original zoning should have been provided by staff. YES - Gary Spahr: Had many of the same reservations about the project as those expressed by Bob and Ed, but on balance agreed with Gary about the proposed uses. YES - Charles Unfug: Felt plan met legal requirements. YES - Expressed reservations about original zoning decision, but felt plan was consistent. The motion carried 4 - 2.