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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning And Zoning Board - Minutes - 02/28/19830 0 PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTESTRI FEBRUARY 28, 1983 Ll U Board Present: Tim Dow, Gary Ross, Dennis Georg, Dave Gilfillan, Ed Stoner, Don Crews, Ingrid Simpson, Randy Larsen Staff Present: Mauri Rupel, Cathy Chianese, Sherry Albertson -Clark, Joe Frank, Gail Ault Legal Representative: Paul Eckman Meeting called to order at 6:30 p.m. Roll was taken. Gilfillan: Briefly explained meeting procedures. Asked for nomina- tion from the Board for election of Vice -Chairperson. Explained last month Vice -Chairperson resigned, Ingrid Simpson was appointed as a regular member and Randy Larsen is the new alternate member. Simpson: Nominated Tim Dow for Vice -Chairperson. Stoner: Second. Vote: Motion to approve carried 7-0. AGENDA REVIEW 9. #10-83 Willox Special Review - County Referral - WITHDRAWN by applicant. 11. #24-80D Park Central PUD - Preliminary - CONTINUED to March 28, 1983. 16. #64-81C Amendment to Continental Plaza PUD - Final - WITHDRAWN by applicant. 17. #90-82 Garth Commercial Plaza Master Plan - CONTINUED to March 28, 1983. 18. #90-82A Garth Commercial Plaza PUD Phase 1 - Preliminary and Final - CONTINUED to March 28, 1983. Simpson: Requested Item #11-83, Price Special Review - County Referral, be "pulled" from the Consent Agenda. Frank: Requested Item #180-78G, The Fountainhead PUD Phase 3, Final, be "pulled" from the Consent Agenda. CONSENT AGENDA: 1. Approval of January 24, 1983, minutes. Planning and Zoning B�i . Minutes 3/28/83 Ross: Asked status of Boardwalk Drive in relation to 250 foot deceleration lane. Frank: Indicated other streets, signals, will help access to College Avenue. Dow: Asked for further clarification on deceleration lane, southern property owner's responsibilities, problems incurred with State Highway Department. Frank: Explained property to south responsible for continuing lane. Dennis Donovan: Osprey/Applicant. Stated he was available to answer questions. Georg: Moved to approve Fountainhead PUD, Phase 3 - Final. Ross: Second. Vote: Motion to approve carried 7-0. 10. #11-83 Price Special Review - County Referral Request for special review to permit an ultra -light airport facility in the O-Open Zone, located 1/2 mile east of I-25, south of County Road 54. Applicant: Lonnie Price, 1520 South College, Fort Col- lins, CO 80525. Albertson -Clark: Gave staff report recommending approval. Gilfillan: Questioned current use of property. Albertson -Clark: Indicated packet shows it is a private airport with seven fixed -wing aircraft. Bill Wyatt: Representative of applicant. Passed out letters from Fort Collins downtown airport and Loveland/Fort Collins Airport managers, both recommending approval of project. Stated planning for ultra -lights was necessary since they could create a hazard if flown at larger airports, because of speed. This area seems a logical choice as other industrial complexes planned for area and also not in flight pattern of the larger airports. Stated ultra -lights not nearly as noisy as regular fixed -wing planes. Advantageous to centralize these planes as they are non -regulated aircrafts presently. Hangar facilities currently present probably is sufficient. Ultra -light Planning and Zoning B • M,inutes 3/28/83 Vic Day: Resident to east of subject property. This is prime agricultural land, including feed lots, and ultra -lights cause stress to these livestock. Charles Whipple: Owner Highland Acres, Inc., Hunting Club. Indicated many problems had resulted with ultra -lights flying through the hunting area. The planes drive the flocks away. This has been his living for 20 years and he is very opposed to ultra -lights, even though he believes the sport might be fun. If the City moves this direction, as it appears to be doing, how can ultra -lights be moved out in a few years. Suggested ultra -lights move five or six miles further north. People from five states hunt here and this would greatly deter. Allan Winick: Owner of property to the north. Farms and has feed lot. Concerned about noise bothering cattle, downed craft hampering crops, bridge to property which is delapidated, and whether he is liable for accidents happening on his property to ultra -light enthusiasts. Marcia Day: Lives to east of proposed site. Has flock of purebred sheep and is concerned about the stress these ultra - lights cause to her livestock. Suggested Gliderport as a better location for this airport. Phil D. Schno.rr: Farms to the east. Feels that agricultural areas are currently fi;hi:ing for their lives and this would cost them co;,ey. The ultra -lights spook his cattle, and one ultra -light was downed in barley field last summer. Also questioned number of balloons that would be launched from the airport. Considers this a safety hazard in the area. The airport went into operation originally as a crop dusting opertion to help the surrounding area, this would in no way benefit the agricultural uses of the area. Tim Klitch: Presently flies ultra -lights out of Yankee Field. Stated FAA requires ultra -lights be 500 feet above houses, and other man-made obstacles. Ultra -lights need to be organized, maybe not in this location, to cite offenders and provide maps of areas that are off limits. Ultra -lights are here to stay and problem needs to be solved. Further north would be too windy; south too populated; east a little windier, dry, but less populated and might be a better way to go. Erie Airport is currently closest but will probably be closing. Abuse by ultra -lights will not end until sport is organized better. New mufflers which are less noisy have been developed, and other problems are being worked on. - 5 - Planning and Zoning Boo • Minutes 3/28/83 DISCUSSION ."GENDA: 12. #65-81A Landmark PUD - Final Request for final approval of a 7.895-ac residential PUD containing 120 multi -family units located on the south- east corner of Prospect Road and Shields Street, zoned R-P, Planned Residential. Applicant: WJM Associates, 1007 Lemay, Fort Collins, CO 80524. Chianese: Gave staff report recommending approval. Wm. J. McCaffrey: Applicant. Stated he was available for any questions. Lloyd Walker: 1027 West Lake, representing Prospect/Shields Neighbor- hood Association. Indicated neighborhood feels its concerns were heard and the LDGS does work. Concerns in general regarding active open space were aired. Wanted to ensure amenities on site plan be included in PUDs. Chianese: Explained staff view of active open space, landscaped areas, and LDGS criteria. Geora: Moved to approve Landmark PUD - Final. Crews: Second. Vote: 13. #9-80G Chianese: Gilfillan: Chianese: Chuck Mabry Gilfillan: Motion to approve carried 7-0. The Arena Phase 4, The Marriott - Final Request for final approval of a 5.11-ac hotel facility, located at East Horsetooth Road and JFK Parkway (Envelop 10), zoned H-B, Highway Business, and B-P, Planned Busi- ness. Applicant: Mitchell & Company c/o ZVFK Architects/Plan- ners, 218 W. Mountain, Fort Collins, CO 80521. Gave staff report recommending approval. Questioned resident concerns of Foothill's view being blocked and the parking adequacy. Indicated staff felt parking spaces more than adequate, as percentage of shared -parking seems low. Mitchell & Company. Stated he, as well as other concern- ed individuals, was available to answer questions. Questioned construction from Chisholn location. stages and elevation of hotel - 7 - Planning and Zoning Ba� Minutes 3/28/83 Bob Sutter: Sutter Architects/Planners. Little disagreement with staff report; however ironical that Mr. Holter initiated the first superblock plan of which this plan is a part and now he is having difficulty with this. Two areas of concern are the northern access and the deceleration lane. With the development of this property the deceleration lane would be installed. All problems hinge around the northern access, the request for which took away 6 points from the point chart. Doesn't disagree with need for street; however, finds it difficult to purchase the property with that necessary before the project would be approved. Likewise Mr. Hotter is in the same situation down the road on Boardwalk and wonders if he can ask a substantial amount of money of those individuals. In order to take pressure off negotiation process we are asking for the temporary access. We would put in the street as soon as a fair and reasonable price for the necessary property could be negotiated. Feel they've made an honest and fair effort to solving this problem. Gilfillan: Questioned the length of a temporary access being any- where between 10 years and 10 days. Felt a temporary agreement might only postpone the problem. Ross: Asked the feasibility of building 45 units now, lessening problems, possibly taking away negotiation difficulty, helping solve the problem. Sutter: Hadn't looked into possibility of phasing the structure. Felt negotiations at this point were stalemated. Stoner: Questioned why no part of the street was on Mr. Holter's current property if he had been a part of superblock planning from the beginning. Sutter: Indicated position of existing facility made this illog- ical. Stoner: Indicated any temporary variance becomes questionable. Eckman: Stated once the hotel in existance and occupied it might be difficult to recind a Certificate of Occupancy. Sutter: Asked if temporary access could be tied to the College Avenue median. Felt it would then be beneficial to both parties to preserve the left -in, left -out turn. Gilfillan: Asked legal advice on City's options to solving this problem. Planning and Zoning B•d • Minutes 3/28/83 George Holter: Stated he felt the price arrived at for this property needs to be consistent with prices for other property in the area, i.e. price received from Winston's for Boardwalk payback. There are currently two curbcuts on College, can't see that the temporary would cause any more problems than those currently existing. The street, when constructed, will be benefiting the property to the back of it and would be a prorated way to split costs should it go into an improvement district. The ditch will be realigned, with improvements going into the west side of the ditch. Engineers are currently working on storm drainage into that ditch. Dow: Moved to deny proposal as submitted. Traffic circulation of the superblock plan is important, as well as a number of City policies which do not support this project. Crews: Second. Stoner: Asked staff to repeat LOGS criteria project did not meet. Frank: Did so. Gilfillan: Asked if parties would be willing to accept price deter- mined by, say, three outside Members of the Appraisers Institute (MAIs). Holter: Indicated he would be in favor of looking at something like this. Rupel: Indicated possibly the City Right -of -Way Agent might be willing to help. West: Indicated it was difficult to come up with comparables on this type of property, but at this point in time this might be a step in the right direction. Vote: Motion to deny passed 7-0. Gilfillan: Stated the access was undoubtedly a major issue, but not the total reason. Recommended getting impartial price determination. Frank: Offered the Development Center services to aid in negotiations. 15. #43-82B Holiday Inn Phase 2, Turner Transportation Center PUD - Preliminary Request for preliminary approval of a one -unit 1.89-ac PUD, located on the northeast corner of College and Harmony Road, proposed auto lease and sales use, zoned B-P, Planned Business. • • Planning and Zoning Board Minutes 3/28/83 Georg: Policies are established by consistent action and feels Board should not review temporary uses, but even reviewing this as a temporary use it doesn't address enough of the City policy to be considered. City should establish a policy discouraging review of property for interim or temporary uses, and/or look at it more formally. Ross: Moved to deny the project. Georg: Second. Stoner: Stated change of use was means of bringing a site up to standard, and possibly the only opportunity City would have to do so. Ross: Stated precedence that might be set could put temporary uses up and down College Avenue. Vote: Motion to deny passed 7-0. Gilfillan: Requested new Vice -Chairperson brief Simpson and Larsen on Board procedures. Stated Taco Bell issue would prob- ably not be going in by Wendy's because of the non - compete clause in Wendy's rental contract with the landowners. Meeting adjourned at 10:10 p.m. - 13 -