HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning And Zoning Board - Minutes - 07/22/1985PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTES
July 22, 1985
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at
6:32 p.m. in the Council Chambers, 300 Laporte Avenue, Fort Collins,
Colorado.
Board members present were Tim Dow, David Gilfillan, Gary Ross, Sharon
Brown, and Laurie O'Dell. Alternate Linda Lang had contacted Chairman Dow
stating she would be late for the meeting.
Staff present included Linda Hopkins, Elaine Kleckner, Joe Frank, Steve
Ryder, Bonnie Tripoli, and Jan Shepard. Legal staff was represented by
Steve Roy.
Chairman Dow welcomed the public to the meeting and asked Ms. Hopkins to
review the consent agenda which consisted of: #35-85, J. T. Rose's
Automobile Bath - Preliminary and Final; #203-79E, Wagonwheel Third - Casa
Grande PUD - Phase 1 and 2 - Final; #76-81D, Pineview Tracts B and C - One
Year Extension; #10-85A, Boardwalk Crossing PUD, Phase 1 - Final; #43-85,
City of Fort Collins Water Utilities Special Review - County Referral;
#45-85, Blank/Kubota Exemption - County Referral; #48-85, Hahn Acres
Preliminary Subdivision - County Referral; #41-85, Miller Special Review -
County Referral. Item 10, #42-85, Dr. Edward Kotin Special Review - County
Referral was continued to August.
Member Brown requested that Item #2, J. T. Rose's Automobile Bath, be
pulled for discussion.
Member Gilfillan moved to approve the Consent Agenda which consist of Items
1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9. Member Ross seconded. Motion passed 5-0 with
Chairman Dow abstaining from voting on Item #6, #43-85 - City of Fort
Collins Water Utilities Special Review - County Referral.
#35-85 - J. T. ROSE'S AUTOMOBILE BATH PUD - PRELIMINARY AND FINAL
Member Gilfillan excused himself from discussion and voting of this item
due to a potential conflict.
Elaine Kleckner gave a description of the property.
Ted Rose, applicant, stated that the car wash proposed is to be built on
11,966 square feet site with two bays and another one designed to be built
in the future. The building is to be of brick material and have maroon
awnings on the front of the building. The concept is an automatic brushless
car wash that takes only two minutes from drive in until exiting the car
wash itself. The traffic impact study has been completed by Mr. Delich. The
site is landscaped on all four sides with a 13 foot utility easement on the
south side. Entrance will be signed to allow both left turn and a right
turn in from Swallow Road with an "exit only" sign to be placed on
Remington Street.
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Chairman Dow asked Mr. Rose to show where the access points will be, the
traffic flow through the site and where the cars will exit.
Mr. Rose stated that the entrance to the site will be from Swallow Road and
each bay will have its own lined entrance to the bay. He also showed where
the proposed third bay will be, the location of the automated tellers, the
location of the equipment room and office. The cars may exit from either
the vacuum area or directly from the wash area onto Remington and may turn
either right or left.
Chairman Dow questioned the stacking space.
Mr. Rose replied that there is a total of 13 in the three bays and a total
of 9 in two bays.
Member Ross asked how one would exit from the vacuum area.
Mr. Rose stated that one would exit by backing the car around and exiting
onto Remington.
Member Ross asked that if a car could turn left into the site when going
west on Swallow Road.
Mr. Rose stated that yes, there is a turn lane into the site based upon the
recommendations of Rick Ensdorff.
Member Ross asked what the road configuration is on Swallow.
Mr. Rose stated that there are three lanes going west and one lane and a
bicycle path going east.
Member Ross asked if one of the three lanes going west is a right turn that
goes down the frontage road.
Mr. Rose stated that yes, it is or you can turn right onto College Avenue.
Member Ross asked if staff had a problem with cars turning across Swallow
Road.
Ms. Kleckner replied that the traffic information that was submitted by the
applicant and reviewed by the city traffic engineer indicates that that
intersection and streets adjacent to the site would still operate at
acceptable levels with the proposed development.
Member O'Dell questioned the footage from College Avenue to the site.
Mr. Rose replied that it is 170 feet from College Avenue to the entrance of
the proposed site.
Member Brown asked if there is a curb cut from the Royal station that goes
out onto Swallow Road.
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Mr. Rose stated that there are several but basically one big curb cut.
Member Brown asked what the distance is from the car wash curb cut on
Swallow to the intersection of Remington and Swallow.
Mr. Rose stated that the lot is about 105 feet and and the curb cuts are
about 10 feet. So there is about 70-75 feet from the corner of Remington.
Chairman Dow asked that if the third bay was built on the right side of the
site, how far would that be from the property line and how far would that
be from the property line to lot 1 on Thunderbird Subdivision.
Mr. Rose replied that there is a 13 foot utility easement to the south and
there is two feet from the utility easement to the car wash building.
Member Ross asked if the legal lot included the utility easement.
Mr. Rose stated that it does not. He stated that it belongs to the
Foothills Convenience Center.
Ms. Kleckner stated that in evaluating the plan, an important consideration
is neighborhood compatibility. Some of the things that were evaluated on
the proposal to determine neighborhood compatibility were how site design
issues were dealt with, exterior materials, the overall appearance of the
project as well as circulation. Some of the things that the applicant chose
to do that contributed to the neighborhood compatibility were the choice of
exterior materials. A brick exterior is used which is in keeping with the
neighborhood residences. It is a commercial use next to some residential
uses. It was felt that a balance was needed between what he could do with
his property and what the neighbors expectations were of that site. A well
landscaped project contributes to the overall neighborhood compatibility.
The site has a lot of existing vegetation. The applicant has enhanced that
with shrub plantings and major tree plantings along the perimeter area on
Remington and Swallow. Noise reduction was considered for the vacuums. The
applicant will be equipping them with a noise reduction device so the sound
to those residences directly adjacent will not be that great, at about 40
decibels. Lighting is directed downward so the surrounding residences will
not have to deal with glare. In working with the applicant to develop a
circulation system which would not adversely impact the neighborhood,
limiting it to two curb cuts was proposed. With the curb cut on Remington
being located toward the south, staff felt it was a good way to do that and
probably the best circulation system for a self-contained type of site such
as this proposal. The traffic was given a close scrutiny in staff's review.
There are two technical memorandums attached to the Board's packets. How
the site works internally as well as how it impacts the adjacent street
system were reviewed. In the year 2005 the intersection will still operate
at an acceptable level. If you were heading northbound on Remington making
any kind of turning movement onto Swallow, that service would deteriorate
slightly. This is a result of the future traffic in the area as well as a
proposed use but is at a level which is still considered acceptable by the
City Traffic Engineer. Staff feels the site works internally based on city
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standards which required a 22 foot aisle going through the car wash. Staff
requested landscaping be added adjacent to the office building on the north
portion of the site. The Royal gas station adjacent to the site was not
willing to share access with the car wash but, should the gas station
expand, the opportunity may arise to funnel people onto the car wash site
from the gas station. If the gas station were to expand in H-B Zone, it
would have to come before the Board. A question regarding the parking was
brought up at the Planning and Zoning Board worksession. Initially, in 1972
when Everitts had two office buildings approved, there was an agreement
that said this particular parcel would serve as parking. However, when
Everitts came in and built the 2900 building later, they accommodated their
parking needs on that particular lot. The previous agreement no longer
constrains what can happen on this particular site. The project does
achieve the required number of points on the auto -related and roadside
commercial point chart. Therefore, staff recommends approval of both the
preliminary and final PUD.
Jim Kaiser, owner of Royal gas station, stated he has two curb cuts which
was changed a couple years ago. At one time it was all lay down curb
through his property. When the city changed the drainage, he went along
with the city's plans and went to the two curb cuts. He stated they have no
problems with the facility as is. Mr. Rose wrote to him about a shared
access and he responded but heard nothing back from Mr. Rose. His concern
was strictly regarding the traffic going into the car wash off of his
property and backing up and causing general problems for their own interlot
distribution. He added they have no real problems with the access.
Member Ross felt there is an awful lot of activity on this lot but is not
sure it won't work and not sure it will. He suggested that the Board
approve two bays and allow it to be built as such and then after operating
awhile, if Mr. Rose desires to build a third bay. Some time will have
passed to see if it is fitting into the lot.
Member Brown stated that one of her major problems with the plan is the
circulation that revolves around the vacuums and how the cars get either
back into the main stream to go through the wash if they vacuum before or
back, turn around and out and exit onto Remington. She is concerned that if
there is a large number of people trying to use the vacuum it could be a
problem. The other concern was the setback from the south property line if
the third bay is installed.
Member Ross stated that the drawing makes the site look extremely tight on
the left side of the building where the vacuums are located.
Mr. Rose stated that it does appear close on the drawing but from the
corner of the building it is 40 feet to the vacuum pad. The vacuum pad
would be at the passenger and driver's car door which allows (if taken into
consideration a 20 foot car) it to be half of its distance from the pad so
there is plenty of room to make a turn and exit.
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Member Ross asked Mr. Rose to assume that there is someone with a real
dirty car at the furthest west vacuum and is taking a reasonable length of
time. You swing through to the second vacuum and then I come through and
want to use a vacuum. What problems will arise?
Mr. Rose stated that there are four vacuums. The idea behind this is that
the vacuums are out of the way of the entrance and exit to the car wash and
it does not tie up cars the way most self-service car washes do because
they usually put their vacuums at the entrance to the car wash.
Member Brown asked what percentage of people vacuum their car when they go
and wash their car.
Mr. Rose replied that it runs around 38-43 percent which is less than half
of the people who go to wash their car. He stated that the automated
tellers do not work until the car being washed has exited the bay.
Chairman Dow felt this proposal should not be approved because there is too
much activity on this site especially regarding the vacuum areas. He felt
these areas are not adequate and not up to standards of the number of
similar operations that have been reviewed and approved by the Board in the
last couple of years. Also, the Board is being asked to grant a variance on
an already extremely tight situation. He does not feel this is good
planning policy to do this with the traffic impact the way it is.
Member Brown moved to deny J. T. Rose's Automobile Bath based on the
activity and the tightness of the site and the traffic flow. Member Ross
seconded. Motion to deny carried 4-0.
#13-85A - SHERWOOD STREET COMMONS PUD - PRELIMINARY
Member Gilfillan joined the Board at this time. Alternate Lang arrived at
this time. ,
Elaine Kleckner gave a description of the property.
Randy Larsen, applicant, spoke regarding the history of the proposed site.
He stated that in March of 1985, a proposal for this site was denied by the
Planning and Zoning Board by a vote of 7-0. There was neighborhood
opposition for that proposal and staff opposition. This proposal was for
twelve apartment units with garages for each unit. It was denied due to
non -compatibility of scale with the neighborhood and overall tightness of
the site. Since that meeting, a lot of time has been spent on this project.
There has been neighborhood meetings, meetings with individual neighbors,
and meetings with staff, trying to arise at a compatible project that would
work for the neighborhood, applicant and city. The feedback from the
neighborhood was the concern of the neighborhood scale and units that were
not owner -occupied. The new proposal is for 6 single family units, some
attached at garages, private patio on the southern side of the unit, fenced
yardspace for each unit and some commons area. As you enter from Sherwood
Street, you pass under an arbor handled with plantings and landscaping,
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through a common walkway into the commons area. From a vehicular basis,
three of the units are accessed off of Sherwood Street on driveways which
are concrete strips. There is direct access from the garages into the
units. Three units are accessed vehicularly off of the alley. The exterior
appearance will emulate the surrounding residences. This proposal was
originally for preliminary and final. Part of the final involves some
easement requests on adjacent properties for maintenance purposes. These
discussions are not complete as yet so the applicant has requested to
continue the final until August. If the easement discussions present a
problem, there is an alternate proposal which has only one change. This
change is pulling the two northern units off the property line 3 1/2 feet
which would preclude the need for any easements along that property line.
Member Ross asked what the square footage of the units would be.
Mr. Larsen stated that they are ranging from 600-900 square feet with the
smallest being 570 square feet and the largest being 900-950 square feet.
There will also be unfinished basements for expandability.
Member Brown questioned the covenants restricting storage in the garages.
Mr. Larsen stated that there will be a covenant stating that if you own a
car, it will be parked in the garage and not used for storage. This was a
neighborhood concern.
Member Brown asked how the commons area would be maintained.
Mr. Larsen stated it would be maintained just as any other PUD. There will
be a homeowners association that will contract out the maintenance.
Chairman Dow asked what would happen if someone rented the larger unit and
finished the basement with two bedrooms. Could they rent these out to four
single unrelated people that each have a car?
Mr. Larsen replied that the intent is to sell these to owner -occupants. The
intent of the basement is to provide space for storage and the ability to
finish off for another bedroom or a family room. The covenants will have a
restriction stating that the basement is not for rental purposes. Parking
for extra vehicles would be like any other resident in the area and that
would be in the street.
Chairman Dow asked that if an occupant owns two vehicles and one is parked
in the garage, could they park the other one in front of that garage?
Mr. Larsen replied yes, that is the idea.
Member Gilfillan asked what the setbacks are for the north and the south.
Mr. Larsen replied that on the south the closest is 4 feet and on the
north, if having the easement, would be zero lot line. If no easement,
there would be a 3 foot setback.
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Member GilfiI]an stated he could support the minimum of the 3 foot setback.
Ms. Kleckner gave the staff report recommending approval. The neighborhood
impact, alley paving and storm drainage were the basic concerns for denial
of the previous proposal in March of 1985. In reviewing these concerns and
how they were addressed since the previous plan, the neighborhood impacts
are balanced and the density is higher than some of the adjacent lots but
the detail in terms of design is what helps to make it compatible. The
landscape plan is a good plan. The types of materials for the structures is
also compatible with the neighborhood. Tandem parking is allowed and the
parking meets city requirements. Staff felt the developer should
participate in the responsibility of paving of the alley.
Chairman Dow asked if any city policy has been established regarding new
developments taking access from alley ways.
Ms. Kleckner replied that this same question was asked of the traffic
department when reviewing the plan - where do you determine the impact as
such that it should be that developer's responsibility and where is the
line. The answer is there is no definite line. Each one should be reviewed
on a case -by -case basis.
Chairman Dow asked if there were any mid -level alley improvements such as
additional grading or regraveling which would mitigate impacts of dust and
drainage,
Ms. Kleckner replied that to her knowledge, a phased improvement approach
has not been used.
Chairman Dow asked if there was any indication that surrounding property
owners may want to do an S.I.D.
Mr. Larsen stated there has been discussion by the neighbors but nothing is
firm at this point. Mr. Busch is willing to participate in an S.I.D. and is
willing to make this a condition of approval.
Dennis Sumner, 602 West Mountain, presented and read a letter with 19
signatures dated July 22, 1985 (attached to minutes) of surrounding
residents that stated the neighbors concerns with this proposal. These
concerns included compatibility with upgraded neighborhood, maintaining
residential character, landscaping maintained, alley access elimination and
use as a buffer, upkeep of sidewalks, and existing zoning not consistent
with current land use. The neighborhood suggested the following
recommendations: 1) restrict the pending changes requested for the
neighborhood, do not allow both the Sherwood Street Commons multi -family and
the pending use request on the corner of Sherwood and Mountain to take
place; 2) do not approve the Sherwood Street Commons project unless the
alley access safety concerns can be eliminated, of which the preferred
alternative would be to eliminate the alley access feature; 3) if the
Sherwood Street Commons project is approved, insure that architectural
features such as roof pitch, width of siding boards, trim, styling, etc.,
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are compatible with the existing historical styling of the neighborhood
homes; and,4) direct the Planning staff to hold meetings in the
neighborhood to facilitate the downzoning of this neighborhood to a more
appropriate zoning consistent with the existing land use and objectives of
the neighborhood.
Bill Cain, 520 West Mountain, moved to this area because of the nature of
the area and the older homes in the neighborhood. He is concerned about
taking two lots and putting six families on them. He does not feel it is
characteristic of the neighborhood.
Member Gilfillan commented that the project has been improved from the
previous one. The neighborhood change would not be an adverse change to the
neighborhood. He felt it would help the neighborhood keep its residential
atmosphere in tact. The safety issues on the alley need to be addressed.
Chairman Dow commented that the owners have the right under the existing
zoning to build duplexes on these lots.
Member Brown complimented the developer and the architect for coming back
before the Board with a plan that addressed the Board's concerns and the
neighborhood concerns.
Member Brown moved to approve the Sherwood Street Commons PUD Preliminary
with any staff recommendations that were included. Member Lang seconded.
Chairman Dow asked Ms. Kleckner if any conditions needed to be mode
regarding the covenants as part of the final and willing participation on
the S.I.D. improvements of the alley and the alley safety impacts.
Ms. Kleckner stated that these do not need to be conditions of approval.
When the applicant subrtlits the final, a signed development agreement will
be required. Improvements to the alley will be included in this agreement.
There is currently a note on the site plan which addresses the parking,
garages to be used as parking and not storage and other matters covered in
the covenants.
Member Ross commented that rental of the basements is a type of use that is
permitted in the current zoning.
Mr. Larsen stated that for this to be legal in the city, it would have to
be a totally separate dwelling unit with kitchen facilities.
Member Gilfillan commented that a minimum of a 3 foot setback on both north
and south sides and more research of potential safety problems that apply
to the alley should be submitted at time of final.
Motion to approve passed 6-0.
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N4-83D - FIVE OAKS VILLAGE AT CUNNINGHAM CORNERS - PRELIMINARY
Joe Frank gave a description of the proposed project.
Frank Vaught, ZVFK Architects/Planners, spoke regarding the clustering of
the units into 14-16 units, the non -garage elevation to the perimeter of
the projects on all four sides, the parking court, accents of brick walls
and the lighting. This project is relative to Woodwest with a variety of
setbacks at 40'-60' minimum. The drainage area will not be a straight line
ditch. The shape will be varied and undulated as it goes into the detention
pond to the east. It is planned to incorporate berming and landscaping as
buffering. He then gave a description from each direction stating 50% of
the units that abut the north property line will be one story units. A
neighborhood concern was the detention pond in Tract H.
Member Gilfillan asked if the buffer will push the water from the drain to
the families to the north.
Mr. Vaught replied that the 18 foot channel slopes to a 3 to 1 slope and
down into a trickle channel. The banks will be designed not to allow the
water to escape over the north or south buffers.
Member Gilfillan asked who will maintain the vacated street to the north and
would the developer consider maintaining this as a green area of this
subdivision.
Mr. Vaught replied that this could be accommodated and this could be dealt
with on the final plan.
Mr. Frank gave the staff report recommending approval. The higher density
uses are consistent with the Master Plan of the Cunningham Corners project
and with the city's Land Use policies. Minor issues identified and that
need to be addressed at final are: landscaping, more adequate building
elevations and provision of pedestrian/bikeway between Gunnison Drive and
Richmond Drive.
Chairman Dow asked Mr. Frank if this is the area where City Council had
decided that Windmill Drive did not need to go through.
Mr. Frank replied that City Council did approve the deletion of the
Windmill connection between Richmond Drive and Gunnison Drive. This plan
is in conformance with the approved master plan.
Eric Fellers, 3284 Gunnison Drive, felt the developer should make the
retention are into a detention area.
Member Brown asked about the parking and the access to the garages on the
corner units.
Mr. Vaught replied that each corner unit has a minimum of 20 feet behind
the garage wall to the curb of the neighboring driveway which allows
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adequate room for two cars to back out at the same time without running
into each other.
Member Brown asked what the distance is from the recreation are on the
eastern side of the site to the western side of the site.
Mr. Vaught stated he did not have the dimensions but the clubhouse is
complete and is centrally located to the entire development.
Member Ross moved to approve Five Oaks Village at Cunningham Corners PUD
Preliminary subject to the staff recommendations 1, 2, and 3 and the
conditions. Member Lang seconded. Motion was approved 4-2 with Member
Gilfillan and Member Brown voting no.
Member Gilfillan and Member Brown voted no because they felt the Windmill
extension is a major part of this project and should be included.
#112-79G - FOUR SEASONS 5TH PUD - PHASE 1 - FINAL
Steve Ryder gave a description of the proposed project.
Ted Boerstad, M & I/Donohue, introduced himself and stated he would be
available for any questions.
Mr. Ryder gave staff report recommending approval. The reason for this item
being on the discussion agenda was due to neighborhood concerns and
questions brought to the Board at the preliminary.
Chairman Dow asked if the streets will be built when this subdivision is
ready to be developed.
Mr. Ryder replied that when the final plan is approve the streets will be a
requirement of that construction.
Chairman Dow asked about the school site issues and the resolutions of
this.
Steve Roy responded that the state statute that allows review of certain
aspects of school site selections affords this Board a right of review. In
regards to streets, the City may not be able to require the School
District itself to construct streets.
Member Ross asked that if an agreement with the School District can be
worked out before actual construction of the next school that, can the
Board review it.
Mr. Roy replied that, while this review may be a bit belated, a revision to
the statute that was enacted in 1984 requires that the Board review it
before land acquisition.
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Chairman Dow asked what happens if this applicant does not develop this
subdivision in the next year or two and concerns are brought up about
accesses to the school and completion of the roads.
Mr. Roy replied legally, the city or the applicant does not have to put
them in. Practically speaking, it probably will not get to that point. The
Fire Code requires access by means of a roadway of sufficient road base
material and standards to support the fire equipment. This is already being
done.
Chairman Dow asked what the points of access would be into the school.
Mr. Ryder replied that he access would be off of Moss Creek Drive.
Jay Holeman, Director of Facilities Services for Poudre R-1 School
District, stated the agreement the school has with Wheeler is that they
will pay 50% of the cost of the streets that surround the property. The
construction road is currently being built to give fire and construction
access to the school. Their contract calls for that street to be put in by
April 1986. The school is projected to open August 1986.
Linda Hopkins stated the agreement calls for construction of a road access
into the construction site sufficient for fire trucks and should be done in
the early phase of construction.
Ted Boerstad stated the permanent road is underway. Plans are to proceed,
immediately after the city approves it, with utilities and final
construction of the total street.
Chairman Dow asked what the anticipated time frame for beginning
construction of the final improved paved road with curb, gutter and
sidewalk.
Mr. Boerstad stated they are forthcoming in the next 60 days.
Member Ross moved to approve Four Seasons PUD Phase 1 Final. Member Brown
seconded.
Member Gilfillan asked if there would be the possibility of having a
development agreement amended to allow no extensions no later than May 1986
and/or a letter of credit to backup completion of streets no later than
May 1986.
Member Ross stated it is not the City's position to have restraints to
protect the School District if the City is not liable for the streets. This
would be the School District's problem not the City's.
Mr. Roy stated that additions could be put into the agreement if the both
parties agree. The School District and the City would still be at risk
because the agreement is between Wheeler and the City.
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Motion to approve passed 5-1 with Member Gilfillan voting no.
A131-79F - THE PIER - FOURTH AMENDMENT - PRELIMINARY AND FINAL
The applicant requested this item be continued to the August Planning and
Zoning Board meeting.
Member Gilfillan moved to continue The Pier - Fourth Amendment Preliminary
and Final to the August Planning and Zoning Board meeting. Member Brown
seconded. Motion to continue this item passed 6-0.
#40-85 - ESTATES WEST PUD - COUNTY REFERRAL
Member Gilfillan abstained from discussion and voting on this item due to a
potential conflict.
Elaine Kleckner gave a description of the county referral.
Jim Martell, representing the applicant, introduced Ms. Fitzgerald, the
architect and planner of,this project, and Mr. VonEisler, a representative
of Consolidated Industries. He gave a description of the property and what
is proposed.
Member Ross asked if there is a sewer system or septic tanks proposed for
this site.
Mr. Martell stated it will be Fort Collins/Loveland Water and South Fort
Collins Sanitation. If the lots are less than 100,000 square feet,
Municipal Water and Sewer would have to be used.
Ms. Kleckner gave staff report. This is in line with density guidelines of
the UGA and in line with the intent of rural farm designation which allows
for large lot residential development. This is within the corridor. A
denial can not legally be based on future action. Staff has recommended
approval to the County provided additional right-of-way be dedicated on
U.S. 287 for 120 feet.
Chairman Dow asked from what major road would the access occur.
Ms. Kleckner stated primarily from U.S. 287 to the west.
Chairman Dow asked if the road would be finished as opposed to gravel and
what controls would there be at the intersection of U.S. 287.
Mr. Martell replied there would be a stop sign but the state highway
department has no requirements.
Ms. Kleckner stated there is no need to require any additional controls
such as stop lights.
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Paula Fitzgerald, McCarty Engineering, stated the state highway department
has opposed this road connection onto U.S. 287 until it was indicated to
them that the development was at a halfway point on the county road
situation and that access would be provided to a proposed development
immediately to the north of the Estates West property. They then changed
their recommendation from denial to approval. There will be a continuous
median of U.S. 287 for ease of turning onto the highway and will have a
wide shoulder as part of the criteria. Any straightening of the road
alignment is opposed due to drainage swale. Strict covenants would be put
on the lots.
Mr. Roy stated that action can not be tabled by Planning and zoning board
pending some other action that affects the corridor area. The owner is
entitled to review of the proposed use of the property under existing
criteria. The city also can not unilaterally change the criteria since
they are acting in an advisory capacity in this are which is outside the
UGA and subject to county zoning.
Chairman Dow asked if, as part of the conclusion of the Task Force, some
definite action would be made by the governing entities within a 6-9 month
peri od.
Mr. Roy replied that the Task Force recommendation does not have the
binding effect that would subsequent action by the governmental entities
that would be based on that recommendation.
Member Brown asked if this is outside the UGA and if so, why are we using
the UGA guidelines.
Ms. Kleckner replied that it is outside the UGA. The UGA gives standards
for the area between Fort Collins and Loveland UGA too. There are a
separate set of standards for the non -farm designation.
Chairman Dow asked if the applicant is agreeable to the R-04 dedication
upon approval and how much is it.
My. Kleckner stated he is agreeable and it would be 120 feet.
Member Ross moved to recommend approval to the County subject to the
dedication of 120 foot R-O-W. Member Lang seconded. Motion to recommend
approval passed 3-1 with Member Brown voting no and Member O'Dell
abstaining due to lack of understanding.
#47-85 - HENINGTON EXEMPTION - COUNTY REFERRAL
Elaine Kleckner gave a description of the property.
Janette Henington, applicant, gave a brief summary of the request and
described the surrounding area. She stated she does not want to be part of
the adjacent subdivision.
Planning and Zoning b and Minutes
July 22, 1985
Page 14
Ms. Kleckner gave a staff report recommending denial based on this
application not meeting subdivision regulations. She stated that the County
subdivision resolution does not allow an exemption or a tract which has
been part of a previous land division after May 5, 1972. The land is in
"the corridor" but this is not the basis for the denial, rather it is the
previous division of the land.
Member Lang asked that if part of this project were not deeded previously,
would staff recommend approval.
Ms. Kleckner replied that one issue looked at in review was what the intent
of the exemption is. It should be for single family dwelling, one on each
tract. Yes, recommendation would probably have been for approval had the
division not occurred.
Member Ross moved to recommend denial of the Henington Exemption based on
the non-compliance with the subdivision regulations. He commented that if
the applicant desires, they should bring it back as a 75 acre project and
subdivide it. Member Brown seconded. Motion to recommend denial passed 6-0.
Meeting adjourned at 9:35 p.m.