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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTES
September 23, 1985
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at
at 6:32 p.m. in the Council Chambers, 300 Laporte Avenue, Fort Collins,
Colorado.
Board members present at the September 20, 1985, worksession were Tim Dow,
Gary Ross, Sharon Brown, David Edwards, Laurie O'Dell, Sanford Kern and
Linda Lang. Don Crews was absent.
Board members present included Tim Dow, Gary Ross, Sanford Kern, Tim Dow,
David Edwards, Sharon Brown and Linda Lang.
Staff members present included Linda Hopkins, Joe Frank, Ken Waido, Elaine
Kleckner, Bonnie Tripoli, Jan Shepard and Kayla Ballard.
Chairman Dow welcomed the public to the meeting. Linda Hopkins stated Item
4 - #13-85B - Sherwood Street Commons PUD Final has been continued to
October; Item 5 - #4-83G - Five Oaks Village PUD Phase One Final has been
continued to the Wednesday, September 25th meeting, and; Item 9 - #66-85 -
Milford Acres Rezoning - County Referral has been withdrawn. Item 11 -
#26-85B - Robinson-Piersal Plaza PUD Phase One Final and Item 12 -
Robinson-Piersal Plaza PUD Phase II Preliminary, has been continued to
October.
Chairman Dow stated the applicant of Item 10 - #63-85 - Laes Exemption -
County Referral has requested this item be pulled for discussion.
DeeAnn Vink requested that Item 3 - 65-82I - Somerville PUD - Final be
pulled for discussion.
Member Edwards moved to approve the consent agenda which include Items 1,
2, 6, 7, and 8. Member Kern seconded. Motion to approve passed 7-0.
#65-82I - SOMERVILLE PUD - FINAL
Chairman Dow asked Mrs. Vink if she had a specific question regarding this
item or if she wished to have a presentation.
Mrs. Vink stated she only desired to know what the three conditions were
that were placed on the approval of the preliminary of this item.
Steve Ryder stated the conditions were: 1) that Charleston PUD, the
adjacent project, be at or beyond permit stage by the time of Somerville
final review, 2) that additional point requirements by the Density Chart be
resolved by final review, and 3) landscape plan be modified by final review
to include additional plantings which were shown on the preliminary
landscape plan. These issues have been addressed. Staff recommends approval
of Somerville PUD Final.
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Member O'Dell moved to approve Somerville PUD Final. Member Ross seconded.
Motion to approve carried 7-0.
#63-85 - LAES EXEMPTION - COUNTY REFERRAL
Clarence Laes, representing his father, stated the 20 foot right-of-way is
too steep. The 7 foot stoop on the house lessens this from 24 feet to 18
feet. The reason this item was pulled is because he disagrees with the 20
foot right-of-way dedication request. He would like to discuss this with
his father and get his decision as to what to do.
Elaine Kleckner gave a staff report. The riyht-of-way should be granted
according to the affected city's needs. The Master Street Plan designates
Taft Hill as a major arterial. A total of 100 foot right-of-way is
required. This is why there is a requirement of 50 feet from centerline
that needs to be dedicated. The County operates by the same Master Street
Plan as the city. . Staff also recommends that both residents be hooked
onto the public sewer system.
Chairman Dow asked if the right-of-way is given, how much distance will
there be between the structure and the road.
Ms. Kleckner replied there would be 24 feet between the structure and the
road.
Member Ross asked if the right-of-way should be required since there are
existing structures. There have been other exemptions requiring an
additional right-of-way that did not have existing structures.
Ms. Kleckner replied that there have been additional right-of-way
requirements on properties that did have existing structures, such as Burns
Exemption.
Member Ross stated that on this property, a second structure is not going
to be built as on the Burns Exemption. In the past, the city has permitted
residents to stay on a septic system as long as it does not present a
health hazard. To make them hook up to a sewer system to get an exemption
is not realistic.
Ms. Kleckner stated the County Board of Adjustments gave up to a year to
hook up to the sewer system.
Chairman Dow asked Mr. Laes how he felt about the requirement to hook up to
the public sewer system.
Mr. Laes replied that an agreement was made with the County that he would
buy the taps now and connect to the sewer line before each house was sold.
Member Ross asked Mr. Laes if he has talked to an attorney about the
necessity of dividing this as an exemption to sell off one of the houses.
Member Ross felt this exemption is not needed.
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Mr. Laes stated that it is one piece of property and one house can not be
sold on one piece of property that belongs to someone else.
Chairman Dow suggested that this item be continued to the October meeting
to allow Mr. Laes time to discuss this with his father and to negotiate
with the City and County staff.
Mr. Laes replied that it would be inconvenient to continued this because he
travels from Denver for the meeting.
Member O'Dell asked that if the 20 foot right-of-way is not dedicated now,
what would need to be done when Taft Hill is improved.
Ms. Kleckner replied that there would be several options without the
right-of-way dedication, such as the city negotiating for the purchas of
the land and that the property could be condemned.
Member Ross stated he felt this is not a development request and does not
need an exemption.
Members Brown and Kern concurred with Member Ross.
Member Ross moved to recommend approval of Laes Exemption with the
condition that public sewer would be required to be hooked up if and when
there is additional development or if a public hazard develops with the
septic system. Member Edwards seconded. Chairman Dow stated he would vote
no because he felt this should be tabled and that the Board need not review
this item. Motion to recommend approval passed 6-1 with Chairman Dow voting
no.
#53-85 - CENTER FOR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY - ZONING
#53-85A - CENTER FOR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY - MASTER PLAN
353-85B - CENTER FOR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY - FILING 1 PARCEL A - PRELIMINAR7
Member Kern excused himself from discussion or voting on this item due to a
potential conflict.
Joe Frank gave a description of the zoning, master plan and filing one
preliminary of Center for Advanced Technology.
Gary Haxton, President of Everitt Companies, introduced Bob Everitt,
Chairman of the Board, and Ron Young, Vice -President of Everitt Companies.
Mr. Haxton stated that an option is open for Everitt Companies to purchase
up to 90 acres of CSURF's land. This leaves approximately 140 acres for
CSURF. Their plan is to upgrade the existing streets and add arterial
streets as their development requires it. A market study was done of the
entire city and a community center was found to be needed. Forestal Center
and Stanford Research Park were visited by Mr. Everitt and himself for a
comparison to their proposal.
Bob Hutchinson, President of CSURF, spoke regarding the need for a mixed
use high-tech park in this area. The balance of the land will be leased by
CSURF to private industry for a 45-65 year period.
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Carr Bieker, ZVFK Architects, discussed and showed slides of the Research
Triangle in North Carolina, Princeton Forestal Center in New Jersey,
Stanford Research Park in Palo Alto, and their high-tech and mixed use
developments along with CSU Research Center. He also showed slides of the
proposed area and the surrounding area and uses. Important goals to achieve
are: 1) to develop a relationship between CAT and the university; 2) to
antici- pate technological advancements; 3) to deal with neighboring
developments sensitively; 4) to promote high quality users, and; 5) to
phase logically from a point of view for the development, the city and the
neighbors. The master plan has four uses - high-tech, bio-tech, retail and
recreational. He discussed clustering, which they are promoting, the
monorail system and versatility of the buildings. In terms of the phase one
plan, features include the expandable flexibility of buildings with
multiple tenants, berming of parking lots, screening of service areas,
promotion of jogging trails with mid -block crossings, compartmentalized
parking, clustering of buildings and recreational areas. Development
considerations are phasing, land use, zoning of I-P and B-P, drainage and
surrounding neighborhood.
Lee Samons, of Hammer, Silar, and George Market Consultants, spoke
regarding the land use. He stated that approximately 54% of the shoppers
are from Fort Collins, 34% from the county area, and 12% from tourists and
out of state people. These are components for future retail demand and
income. What is needed for planning over a 20 year period is over 600 acres
of retail development.
Joe gave the staff report recommending approval of CAT Zoning as I-P,
Industrial Park for the entire CAT property rather than I-P and B-P, as
required by the applicants for reasons as stated in the staff report and
approval of CAT Master Plan subject to the conditions that: 1) phasing of
improvements to surrounding arterial streets, 2) that Center Street be
extended, 3) that impact study of Stuart, Worthington and Meadowlark
streets be completed, and 4) that additional information be given to the
city on the applicant's development standards. Staff also recommends
approval of CAT Phase 1 Parcel A Preliminary subject to the same conditions
as CAT Master Plan.
Member Ross asked if it is more meaningful on an infill project to zone in
lines of anticipated use, such as Anheuser-Busch and Del Webb, which are
not infill projects.
Ken Waido replied that Del Webb and Anheuser-Busch are peripheral master
plans and not infill projects. The intent of this project is to define what
the property will be used for.
Member Ross asked if it is staff's function to set policy on whether or not
a regional shopping center should be located off of College or is it the
Planning and Zoning Board's or City Council's policy to set the policy.
Mr. Waido replied that the responsibility is with City Council. It is the
obligation of staff to offer alternatives, suggestions and recommendations
to City Council in establishing that policy.
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Rick Ensdorff, City Traffic Engineer, stated the analysis of this project
showed it could work from a transportation standpoint. The "if's" involved
include: 1) the arterial street in and around the site needs to be adequate
to handle traffic, 2) the need to develop Center Street with the phases of
the commercial areas, 3) combination storm drainage and street design needs
to be resolved, and 4) neighborhood impacts needs to be worked on.
Allen Lamborn, Sheeley Drive resident, requested some discussion on the
height of the buildings.
Mr. Bieker stated there are 2 height zones - the city's standard of a 40
foot height requirement and the zone of 10 stories, or 130 feet, such as in
hotels. These are what is requested.
Mr. Lamborn stated he felt the Board should review the role of the
neighborhood meetings in terms of information presented in the master plan.
One of the big selling points at the neighborhood meeting was the height
zone being low. He fundamentally supports the project with the exception
that care should be stressed in the development of the commercial area. He
questioned how the developer would integrate the retail and commercial area
into the heart of the city without undercutting the value that is there. He
felt the property should be entirely zoned I-P, Industrial Park, as
recommended by staff.
Freeman Smith, Prospect/Shields Neighborhood Association, asked which piece
of property would be sold to Everitt and which would be retained in title
to Everitt.
Mr. Haxton replied that the immediate southwest corner, south of the ditch,
would be sold, which is approximately 90 acres. No more that than can be
sold or bought.
Mr. Smith asked if the LOGS states that a final plan can not be granted
unless the entire piece of property is under one ownership.
Mr. Frank replied that he was not aware of that requirement. There is a
section in the LOGS that states if someone owns a larger piece of property,
part of it can not be brought in, all must be brought in, for review.
Mr. Bieker stated that the land retained by CSURF would have only one
difference associated with it and that is that the land can only be leased
for an extended period of time. CSURF would go through the same process
that Everitt goes through with the city if a developer came in to lease the
land.
Mr. Smith asked if CSURF is committed to the master plan or if the
remaining property can be immediately put into another master plan for the
Bay Farm.
Chairman Dow stated that anyone could go before the Board subsequent to the
approval of a master plan and ask that the master plan be amended.
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Gail Rains, 806 Wagonwheel, asked what a major shopping center inclu(n-s and
if a grocery store be included in this proposal.
Mr. Frank replied that a community shopping center of 350,000 squa-•- feet
on 35 acres is proposed. In comparison, Toddy's is about 155,000-._5,000
square feet on 9 or 10 acres. A community shopping center compar .:le in
size to the proposed is University Mall. At this point, a grocery s.. re is
not proposed.
Joan Avins, resident of Meadowlark Avenue, was concerned about the possible
parking problem on Meadowlark and in the neighborhoods. She felt a
stipulation to the density of use should be required. She also reciJested
more details about what sort of industry is proposed for this develc1:1ment.
She asked if the monorail is a real possibility.
Chairman Dow replied that the developers would be required to �—:)vide
adequate parking for the on -site needs.
Mr. Frank stated that the existing signal at Meadowlark will rema•-1. In
regards to the parking, almost 300 parking spaces are proposes. The
monorail is a potential for the future.
Chairman Dow stated that the build out is 15-30 years befog= the
development is totally complete. The industry type is currently wid= open
because no one knows what the demand will be for industry.
Mr. Bieker stated that the air pollution would be self -regulated an,: more
strict than the city standards.
Member Brown explained to Mrs. Avins that as each facility is bui1=, it
must be reviewed by the Planning and Zoning Board for preliminary and final
approval.
Mr. Frank stated that neighborhood meetings will be held before revew by
the Board.
Mrs. Avins asked if there are plans to extend Meadowlark south.
Mr. Frank replied that there are plans for this extension but is not a part
of the CAT proposal.
Member Ross asked if there would be any need to take off the existing
parking on Meadowlark.
Mr. Ensdorff replied that the parking on the south side of the center would
be residential in nature.
Kevin Keane, 837 Winchester, endorsed the plan and encouraged the Board to
watch and support the development. He had concerns regarding the traffic on
Drake, which includes no left turn onto Worthington Street and would like
to see a visual separation between the residential area and the development
in terms of parking.
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Drake, which includes no left turn onto Worthington Street and would like
to see a visual separation between the residential area and the development
in terms of parking.
Wayne Shepard, 830 Wayonwheel, agreed with staff in recommending the I-P
zoning. He asked that, based on the projected traffic flow on Drake Road,
what kind of modifications are necessary to accommodate that traffic.
Mr. Ensdorff stated that Drake would be brought up to city standard
arterial with a right hand turn at Worthington with raised medians. This
would depend upon where the pressure points would be of the development.
Any improvements of the street would be done on the north side so as not to
affect anyone's property.
Member Ross had strong beliefs in the LDGS and feels this is a sensitive
area. The theme should be industrial park. He stated the developer has
flexibility with the I-P zone and agrees with staff in recommending the I-P
zone.
Mr. Haxton stated he does not see the wisdom of zoning this I-P when it is
known a shopping center is part of the plan.
Member Edwards stated he shares the impact concerns of the audience. He
asked for an explanation of commercial development being the market force
behind the future development of a bio-tech or research facility.
Mr. Haxton replied that when talking to Stanford, their shopping center was
built early, providing the income to build the infrastructure of the
high-tech is adequate. This is the driving force behind the development.
Member Brown asked if it was the trends of the other high-tech parks to
lease the property or to purchase it out -right. She asked what is the
marketability of the whole concept.
Mr. Haxton replied that the land was not purchased but rather leased for a
45-65 year period. Forestal Center, the most successful and largest, leased
80-90% of the land and purchased the rest.
Chairman Dow commented that since there will be a PUD condition placed on
this item, it makes no difference on how it is zoned. He stated it is more
appropriate to go with the B-P zoning on the southwest part and the I-P
zone on the rest.
Member Ross moved to recommend to City Council that Parcel A be zoned B-P,
Planned Business, Parcels B, D, and F be zoned I-P, Industrial Park, and
Parcels C and E be zoned T-Transitional with the condition that all of
these parcels be developed as a PUD. Member Lang seconded. Motion to
recommend approval passed 5-1 with Member Brown voting no.
Member Lang moved to approve the Center for Advanced Technology Master Plan
with the conditions that: 1) phasing of improvements to surrounding
arterial streets, 2) that Center Street be extended, 3) that impact study
of Stuart, Worthington and Meadowlark streets be completed, and 4) that
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height of 40 feet throughout the site should be kept and that the site is
not far enough away from the College Avenue corridor. Motion to approved
passed 6-0.
Edwards moved to approve Center for Advanced Technology Phase 1-Parcel A -
Preliminary with the same four conditions as the Master Plan. Member O'Dell
seconded. Member Ross commented that a large amount of time was spent on
reviewing drawings and details of this project by the Board. He did not
want anyone to think that this has been done in a "steamroller" effect and
not studied carefully. Motion to approve passed 6-0.
#55-85 - WHITCOMB GREENS PUD - PRELIMINARY
Elaine Kleckner gave a description of the property.
Phil Taylor, Al Hockett Construction, presented slides to the Board of the
site and drawings of the proposal. He discussed the existing landscaping
along the street, the entry and exit ways of the site, the existing
dwellings and the proposed parking.
Member Ross asked if either of the existing dwellings are used as duplexes.
Mr. Taylor replied they are both used as duplexes with a total of 4 units.
There will be 6 more units built in the back for a total of 10 units.
Member Lang asked if any work would be done on the existing curb cut for
accessibility to the 10 unit complex.
Mr. Taylor replied that it is a 10 foot wide drive and would be kept that
way. This may need upgrading but not widened. This is an entrance only. The
Fire Department would use the alleyway to access the building.
Chairman Dow asked if the applicant is aware of the 3 conditions that staff
has recommended.
Mr. Taylor stated the only problem he has is that the southern boundary
landscaping should not be intensified since it is already overgrown.
Member Kern asked how many parking spaces are proposed.
Mr. Taylor replied there are 13 proposed spaces with a place for 2 more
spaces.
Member Brown stated the parking problem should be resolved before final
review.
Member O'Dell asked if parking spaces will be designated.
Mr. Taylor stated that it does save fights to have designated parking
spaces.
Member Edwards asked if the units will be economically feasible for one
student to occupy a bedroom.
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Mr. Taylor replied the rent would be around $125-150 per student.
Ms. Kleckner gave a staff report recommending approval with the conditions
that: 1) the applicant participate in future alley improvements, 2)
enhancement of building elevations be kept with the neighborhood character
and exterior materials be provided at time of final, 3) landscaping
adjacent to buildings and on southern property line be intensified, and 4)
additional parking be addressed at final.
Member Ross felt that this is a redevelopment rather than an infill. He was
concerned that the 22 dwelling units is too heavy.
Ms. Kleckner stated that it is not heavy in comparison with the surrounding
dwelling units.
Member Ross asked if the utilities can handle this additional use.
Ms. Kleckner replied that the utility department said there are no problems
with this.
Chairman Dow stated that in terms of intensity and impact, this proposal
should be a duplex or 3-plex instead of a 6-plex. He felt the parking is
short about 6 spaces.
Member Kern asked if there is any noise mitigation in the design of the
building.
Mr. Taylor replied the surrounding area is compatible to the proposal.
Noise mitigation will be with fencing and landscaping as well as light
pollution.
Member Edwards moved to approve Whitcomb Greens PUD - Preliminary with the
following conditions: 1) that the applicant participate in future alley
improvements, 2) that enhancement of building elevations be in keeping with
the neighborhood character and exterior materials be provided at time of
final, 3) that landscaping adjacent to buildings and on southern property
line be intensified, and 4) that additional parking be addressed at final.
Member Kern seconded. Member Edwards comments that this project has
uniqueness and is a good redevelopment project but needs more details at
time of final. Chairman Dow suggested the consideration of buying the strip
of land adjacent to the alley to allow for additional parking. Motion to
approve passed 4-3 with Members Brown, Ross and Chairman Dow voting no
based on the high intense of use.
#49-85 - STERLING SEAWORTH PIT BATCH PLANT SPECIAL REVIEW - COUNTY REFERRAL
Elaine Kleckner gave a description of the property.
Mike Refer, Sterling Companies, A batch plant is currently on the south
side of Taft Hill Road. Staff is recommending denial because they want the
road from the river back to Laporte be improved to 4 lane status. This is
not economically feasible for a 42 acre site.
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side of Taft Hill Road. Staff is recommending denial because they want the
road from the river back to Laporte be improved to 4 lane status. This is
not economically feasible for a 42 acre site.
Member Ross asked how long they anticipate to be in the proposed batch
plant.
Mr. Refer
replied
that
the pit is 42 acres and
they are mining 8-10 acres
per year
on each
side
of the river for a total
of 20 acres per year. This
could be
open for
10-15
years.
Member Lang asked if this were denied, would they proceed as normal and
what would be done with the current plant.
Mr. Refer replied they would proceed as normal. The current plant would be
reclaimed to mine land reclamation standards. When done mining an area,
that water will fill into a pond then native grasses, trees and shrubs are
planted. Some property has been turned over to the city for bike paths and
future parks.
Ms. Kleckner gave a staff report regarding the city's right-of-way needs,
aesthetics, traffic and road conditions, road improvements needed and
concerns of a waiver not being obtained. Staff recommends a waiver be
processed addressing the entire Taft Hill Road operation prior to any other
approval being granted.
Chairman Dow asked what options there are in the waiver process.
Ms. Kleckner stated that she met with the County staff and they suggested
adding something to the Intergovernmental Agreement, such as assessing this
type of use a dollar amount per acreage per year. This is not a fixed
agreement.
Chairman Dow reiterated by saying that the options are to either accept
staff recommendation and deny the project or to ignore staff's
recommendation and approve the request.
Member Ross asked if a ton mile tax is paid by the plant, and if so, is
this money used for road improvements.
Ms. Kleckner replied that County staff stated some of this is filtered back
to the local areas but by the time it is assessed and filters back, there
is not a substantial amount to do those kind of road improvements.
Member Edwards stated that since this is a recommendation to the County and
if denied by the Board, the County could do what they please anyway. The
only real option is to make the strongest statement possible to the County.
Member Kern moved to recommend approval of the Sterling Seaworth Pit Batch
Plant Special Review with the conditions that: 1) the applicant continue to
negotiate with the County and City staffs for provision of a trail easement
along the Poudre River, 2) that the right-of-way dedications are given to
allow a 50 foot setback from the centerline of Taft Hill Road, 3) that a
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staff be asked to negotiate a fee to contribute to a street repairs/over-
sizing fund. Member Edwards seconded. Motion to recommend approval passed
6-1 with Member Brown voting no based on staff's recommendations.
#64-85 - LEE EXEMPTION - COUNTY REFERRAL
Elaine Kleckner gave a description of the property.
Dorothy Lee, owner, stated she applied for a building permit to build an
addition but found the division of land was not approved by the County
Commissioners. The plans for property is to continue its present use and
replace an existing farmhouse with a newer home further back on the
property.
Ms. Kleckner gave a staff report stating there were concerns regarding the
previous division of land, development potential zoned commercial, and
existing use of land being used as mobile homes. Staff recommends approval
with the conditions that an additional right-of-way be dedicated along the
east frontage road up to 68 feet total and a condition be placed on the
plat stating there can be no further development without a PUD plan.
Chairman Dow asked how much additional right-of-way is needed.
Ms. Kleckner replied it would be a total of 68 feet and the applicant is
requested to provide 1/2 of the right-of-way.
Chairman Dow asked Mrs. Lee if she had any problems with these conditions.
Mrs. Lee stated she had not heard of these conditions until now. She would
need some time for some consideration of these conditions.
Member O'Dell moved to recommend approval with the conditions that an
additional right-of-way be dedicated on the frontage road on I-25 up to 68
feet total, 1/2 the difference made by the applicant, and that a condition
be put on the plat that any further development be reviewed as a PUD plan.
Member Lang seconded.
Chairman Dow asked what the requirement is on the policy when the other
side of the road is owned by a governmental entity as far as dedication is
concerned.
Bonnie Tripoli stated that normally the right-of-way would be required from
the property, not from the state's right-of-way. This would be less than 18
feet additional land.
Motion to recommend approval passed 6-1 with Member Brown voting no because
she does not consider this an exemption of streamlining the subdivision.
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ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Gary Ross nominated Tim Dow for Chairman. Linda Lang seconded the
nomination. On a vote of 6-0, Tim Dow was elected to continue serving as
Chairman.
David Edwards nominated Don Crews as Vice -Chairman. Sanford Kern seconded
the nomination. On a vote of 7-0, Don Crews was elected to continue serving
as Vice -Chairman.
Meeting adjourned at 11:22 p.m.