HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning And Zoning Board - Minutes - 05/22/1987. PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTES
June 22, 1987
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at
6:34 p.m. in the Council Chambers, 300 Laporte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colo-
rado.
Board menders present included Laurie O'Dell, Tim Dow, Sharon Brown, Linda
Lang, Bernie Strap, and Don Crews. Members Kern and Edwards were not pre-
nent.
Staff members present were Tom Peterson, Joe Frank, Debbie deBesche, Ted
Shepard, Mike Herzig, Rick F.nsdorff, and Renee Joseph.
Legal representative was Paul Eckman.
Chairman Crews presented Tim Dow with plaque honoring him for his six years
of service on the Board.
Ted Shepard gave the Consent Agenda which consisted of: Item 1, Minutes of
the May 18, 1987 meeting; Item 2, #25-81H Regency Park PUD Phase 1 - Final;
Item 3, #13-82AD Oak Ridge Business Park POD 9th Filing - Final; Item 4,
#40-79G Mountain Range Subdivision - Final; Item 5, #25-87 Anderson Dental
Clinic - Non -Residential Use Request In The RE Zone; Item 6, #75-86E The
English Ranch At Spring Creek Farms, let Filing - Final Subdivision; Item
• 7, #96-81G The Market At Horsetooth Comnnons PUD, Tract D, Phase 1 - Final;
Item 8, #65-82P Charleston At Fairbrooke PUD - Final; Item 9, #2-87B The
Pulse PUD, Phase 1 -Final; Item 10, #26-87 Recycling Collection Center PUD
- Preliminary and Final; Item 11, #28-87 Slaton Rezoning - County Referral;
and Item 12, #33-87,A Blue Spruce Farm Annexation and Zoning.
Items 6, The English Ranch at Spring Creek Farms, 1st Filing - Final Subdi-
vision was continued until July 13, 1987. Item 8, Charleston at Fairbrooke
PUD - Final was continued until July 27, 1987.
Lloyd Walker requested Item 9, The Pulse PUD, Phase 1 - Final be placed on
the Discussion Agenda.
Member Dow motioned Item 6, The English Ranch at Spring Creek Farms, let
Filing - Final Subdivision to be continued to a special meeting of the
Planning and Zoning Board on July 13, 1987. Member Lang seconded. Motion
passed 6-0.
Member Dow noted a perceived conflict of interest on Item 10, Recycling
Collection Center PUD - Preliminary and Final, and abstained fran voting.
Member O'Dell moved to approve Item 10, Recycling Collection Center PUD
-Preliminary and Final. Member Brown seconded. Motion carried 5-0.
Member Dow moved to approve items 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 11, and 12 on the
Consent Agenda. Member Strap seconded. Motion to approve passed 6-0.
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Tam Peterson pulled Item 21, East Prospect Estates Subdivision -County
Referral from the agenda.
#24-87 MARTIN LUTHER GROUP HOME - GROUP HOME REQUEST
Debbie deBesche gave staff description of the request for the group hone.
The applicant, Sharon Jacksi, the Area Administrator, felt the proposal.
meets the criteria for review. She stated the hone would provide care for
developmentally disabled children and adults. She commented on the down-
sizing of the hone. She stated the purpose of the down -sizing provided
more of a family -like setting and would be more integrated in the commu-
nity. She indicated the hone would be a four bed facility. She concluded
by stating the home was owned by Martin Luther Horne and met. all of the
requirements of a facility for the developmentally disabled.
Debbie deBesche stated staff approves the proposal with conditions as item-
ized in the report.
Member Stran moved to approve Martin Luther Group Ham - Group Hone
Request. Member Brawn seconded. Motion passed 6-0.
#23-87 OAR RIDGE WEST PUD - MASTER PLAN
Debbie deBesche gave a description of the proposed changes in the master
plan.
Elden Ward stated he was available to answer any questions.
Member Brown inquired if special health care would be orl the sight.
Member Dow motioned to approve Oak Ridge West PUD - Master Plan. Member
O'Dell seconded. Motioned passed 6-0.
#23-87A HEALTHCARE INTEiMTIONAL AT OAR RIDGE WEST - PRELIMINARY
Debbie deBesche gave staff description of the project.
Frank Vaught gave a presentation on the lard, site and buildings. He
stated there are six buildings on the plans. He commented he had informed
the neighborhood area as well as an expanded area of the proposal. He
stated the proposal was a positive addition to the community.
Mr. Barner stated historical facts and gave some background information
about Healthcare International. He indicated Brown Schools are interna-
tionally known, having 45 years of experience. He also discussed Cedar
Springs in Colorado Springs. He referred to the fact sheet, which was
included in the Board members packets. He indicated this sheet stated
questions as well as answers regarding Coll inxwood. He commented the staff
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. at the proposed facility would be comparable to the professional staff at
Poudre Valley Hospital. There would be 2.1 to 2.3 staff members for every
occupied bed. He assured the proposed facility would not be a state hospi-
tal. The facility will be primarily a voluntary base admittance. The
facility could be locked or kept unlocked. The environment would be struc-
tured similar to clinical patient units. He also stated the school on
campus would be accredited. He emphasize(] the facility would not accept
patients that are deemed criminally insane.
Mr. Barner gave a slide presentation of the Corpus Christi facility in
Texas; the purpose was to show the environment as being quality in nature.
He concluded by stating he was in agreement with the recommendation by
staff.
Debbie deBesche stated the conditions staff proposed.
Member Dow inquired if the applicant agreed with the conditions.
Debbie deBesche commented the applicant agreed.
Chairman Crews asked what would be built in phase 1.
Mr. Vaught stated the first phase would include building the administration
building, two patient units, one office building and a gymnasium. Phase 2
would include the parking area and the pool. The entire site would be
• landscaped along with the first phase.
Member O'Dell inquired what would take place on the actual site until the
initial construction began.
Mr. Vaught stated landscaping the seeded area would occur.
Member Brown commented that at the work session discussion arose concerning
the patients in the facility. She was concerned about the definition and
restriction of the patients.
Debbie deBesche stated a letter would be submitted that would indicate the
actual patients admitted.
Paul Eckman stated approval runs with the property since the patients were
under voluntary admittance.
Jay Branum stated he attended the neighborhood meeting. He was pleased he
had been informed of the meeting sine he lived in the extended boundaries.
He stated from the individuals that attended the meeting three, including
himself, had formed a committee. He commented the committee had distrib-
uted a letter through the Home Owner's As:;ociation concerning the proposed
facility. They even contacted the Chamber of Congress in Corpus Christi.
He stated the information received from these contacts indicated there had
been no extra crime due to the facility in Corpus Christi. He commented
there is no certificate of need required in Texas. On June 30, 1987 meet-
ing he stated there would be no certificate of need in Fort Collins either.
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He contacted the Colorado Department of Health and was informed that
recently another individual had called and filed a complaint with the state
concerning the same issue. He felt the patients being mentally ill would
present additional risk to the community especially since it would be
located near an elementary school.
Virginia Conahan expressed her concerns regarding the issue. She stated
she was representing over 100 people. She commented from the two neighbor-
hood meetings she had learned about the facility and agreed the architec-
ture of the buildings would be an asset to the comnuni.ty. She felt the
site of the facility was too close to Warner School. She was concerned
that at times the patients would require being locked up.
Davetta Delinger stated research concluded that 12 to 15 elopements, walk-
outs, occur on these facilities. She asked where these patients would go
after leaving the facility. She inquired if there was another alternative.
She stated the facility would be too close to the elementary school, caus-
ing threat to the children who attended the school.
Larry Scott stated his comments were unsolicited. He stated he had visited
the Cedar Springs facility in Colorado Springs, Colorado. He stated he had
the opportunity to talk to the clients on the campus -like setting. He
wanted to assure everyone he would be proud to have the facility as a
neighbor. He felt the facility belongs in the residential setting.
Dick Rule stated he has two school age children who will be attending
Warner Elementary. lie commented he was in favor of the facility.
Chairman Crews asked Mr. Rule if his children would be walking to Warner.
Mr. Ruel stated his children would be bused.
Dr. John Noggle stated he was a physician in. practice. He stated he is a
resident in the Landings. He commented he was representing the Doctor's
Association. lie felt there is an urgent need for the facility. He implied
the facility would provide the best possible treatment for the patients.
He was in support of quality facilities in Colorado. He also stated he is
an Assistant Professor at the University of Colorado Medical Center.
Jim Huerberlin stated he had visited two facilities, one in Boulder (BPI)
and the other in Colorado Springs (HCI). He felt the facilities were first
class for medical care. He stated he has two teenage children and has no
doubts about the facility. He commented there is a need for these facili-
ties in northern Colorado. He concluded by saying his wife and himself
were in total support of the facility.
Member Lang inquired about the elopements, walk-aways. She wondered if any
incidents were reported in the newspaper because of the situation. She
asked where the patients went after leaving the facility.
Rick Bangard stated an elopement was defined as an unauthorized leave from
the hospital. He stated there had been 16 elopements at the Cedar Springs
facility. Of the 16, 11 came back to the facility within four hours. He
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• stated in the past three years no incidents have occurred due to the elope-
ments. Normally within three to four hours after the elopement the facil-
ity receives telephone contact with the patient to bring them back to the
hospital, Mr. Bangari stated.
Member O'Dell inquired if anyone had spoken to the principal at Warner
about the complaints.
flebbie deNesche stated staff had net received any comments from the school.
Mr. Barner also stated no complaints had been made.
Member Brown asked what the community based asset of the facility would be.
She also inquired how the facility would fit in with providing psychiatric
care similar to that of Poudre Valley Hospital.
Mr. Barner stated the Board at Poudre Valley Hospital reviewed the appli-
cants. He indicated there would be a breakdown of 38 revenue based indi-
gents. He commented this figure was consistent with Poudre Valley Hospital
policies.
Member Dow moved to approve Healthcare International at Oak Ridge West with
the two conditions as recommended by staff. First condition: prior to
final approval, the Developer shall submit, to the City for review and
approval, construction drawings of Lemay Avenue. Second condition: prior
. to final approval, the Developer shall re -design the entrance off of Levey
Avenue to achieve a smoother flow of traffic.
Member Dow added a third condition which stated: a letter would have to be
submitted to the City stating a better definition of general patients
included as final.
Member O'Dell stated she is a mother of three. She commented she was also
concerned about the proximity, but since ether facilities that are located
within the distance of other towns have not reported any complaints, she
was in approval of the project.
Mr. Eckman inquired about the purpose of the third condition.
Member Dow stated the third condition would require a description of gen-
eral patients involved in the facility.
Mr. Eckman indicated the condition would be a limitation on the type of
patients received.
Member Dow stated it would be a final decision.
Member Brown commented she agreed with Member O'Dell. She stated she feels
safe with the facilities location. She indicated that there was a possi-
bility that in the future HCI could decide to sell. She requested there be
a defined and set perimeters for the future.
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Member Strap seconded. Motion passed 6-0.
THE ARENA PUD - REVISED MASTER PLAN
F0C7IfIILLS MALL, EXPANSION POD - REVISED PRELIMINARY
(Combined discussion - separate motions)
Joe Frank gave staff description of both projects.
Mr. Vaught discussed the projects were a creative concept and commented to
look at the expansion in a broader sense. He stated the actual expansion
was small in scale. He indicated the information in the Board members
packets included details of the market potential, economic impact, and
primary issues discussed at the neighborhood meeting. He stated the plan
represents reviewing the entire site. The project is more advanced and will
require additional revisions. The benefits of the project included: (1)
potential loop road would circulate around mall, and (2) opportunity on
pedestrian level - replace wide streets with access drives that would be
safe for pedestrians. He indicated five proposed pedestrian areas, (1) new
20ft. landscape island with walk connected to Foothills East, (2) new 20ft.
landscape island around JC Penney with new pedestrian crosswalk at Stan-
ford, (3) new connection along redesigned area by the existing J. Chisholm
and the proposed Mervins, (4) east and west connection to College Avenue
with a major pedestrian walkway, and (5) additional connection on JFK cor-
ridor, The Square and the Marriott. He indicated (5) was a very important
pedestrian walkway.
Mr. Vaught presented a graph which illustrated the pedestrian walkways as
previously discussed. He felt there is an opportunity to detach the walk
and accommodate (5) with benches, lighting, and pleasant walkways. He
stated a Transfort bus center would be Located in the area which would
include a small shelter and restroom facility. He indicated no more than
four buses would be at the center and there would be a six minute transfer
period between buses. The bus center would be centrally located with the
pedestrian walkways providing a good circulation stand point and safety. He
stated many benefits could be recognized. (1) There would be an overall
improvement in pedestrian circulation, (2) joint parking would be available
between The Square, Foothills Fashion Mall and the Marriott, (3) replace-
ment of unnecessary streets, (4) major economic impact including additional
employment and tax revenue, (5) opportunity of Transfort bus system for
shoppers and the City, and (6) improvements to internal circulation. He
summarized by stating the project would strengthen the City as a major
shopping complex.
Joe Frank stated staff discussed the project with the applicant for approx-
imately four months. He commented the opportunity presents a pleasant
shopping atmosphere. He indicated staff recommended approval of The Arena
PUD - Revised Master Plan. He felt further discussion and review would be
needed in the next 30 days concerning the design aspects and traffic
issues. He stated there is a need to better define pedestrian walk ways
and the landscaping, as well as the traffic impacts on the site.
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• Joe Frank indicated there were street improvements to be installed that
were further described in the packet the Board members possessed. He ccnr
mented the proposal meets lanai use design requirements.
Chairman Crews requested Joe Frank to review the steps of the project
including the vacation of the streets.
Tam Peterson indicated the Planning and Zoning Board acts upon the prelimi-
nary and final. The City Council will approve or disapprove the street
vacations.
Member Dow stated the approval would be by the Council.
Mr. Eckman indicated just because the Board approves the concept does not
mean the Council would move to vacate the streets, it would be conditional
upon vacation.
Member Dow asked if the condition needed to be included in the motion.
Mr. Eckman recommended the condition be included as part of the final
approval so that it would be clear to all.
Joe Frank stated the process would take place in two phases: (1) Mervins
and (2) May D&F, accompanied by the vacation of Monroe and Foothills Park-
way respectively.
. Mr. Eckman commented it would be too difficult to make the coalition. As
long as the vacation of the streets was not accomplished by the Boards
approval of the project, the condition would not have to included in the
motion at preliminary.
Joe Frank indicated the intent of the vacation was conditional upon final
approval.
Member O'Dell inquired if there were any suggested mitigation measures
expected from the applicant.
Rick Ensdorff listed the seven conditions, which would require further
studies, but were conditioned upon approval of the project. Conditions:
(1) transit center to be located south of the Foothills Fashion Mall, (2)
operational improvements at the intersection of College and Swallow, which
involves installing a left turn lane, (3) improvements at College and
Horsetooth, which include a double left turn lane and a right turn lane for
west bound traffic, (4) improvements in crosspans at College and Monroe
which will allow for better traffic flaw, (5) improvemients in drainage pans
at Monroe and Stanford, (6) pedestrian improvements on Stanford between
Swallow and Monroe, and (7) roadway improvements on Mathews conditional
upon the vacation of Foothills Parkway. He indicated (3) was a major
issue.
Member Dan stated at the joint session, with City Council, air quality
• impacts related with the expansion were discussed.
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Rick Ensdorff commented the study was crude because there was no ability to
experiment on a site -specific basis. He did indicate there would be
improvements to air quality by 1.990 due to cleaner autos being driven in
the area. He stated there would be a 12% improvement in air quality in the
Colorado area, and a 17% improvement without the expansion. Ile indicated
he did not have the ability to comment on the present air quality.
Member Brawn inquired about the traffic mitigations. She asked if there
would be a right turn lane installed on North College and Monroe to avoid
standing time.
Rick Ensdorff stated the proposal did not consider a right turn lane at
College and Swallow. He indicated College and Horsetooth does require
right turn lanes.
Member Strom commented he recommended the seven conditions regarding the
traffic items. He inquired who was required to put in the improvements.
Rick Ensdorff stated arrangements would be worked out with both owners.
He commented the timing and responsibility of the developers was a complex
issue.
Member Brown was concerned about the parking problem. She asked what the
total percentage increase of square footage of the mall would be after the
expansion.
Frank Vaught stated the mall would expand from approximately 450,000 square
feet to approximately 600,000 square feet.
Ed Kramer indicated he had no complaints about the center but he was corn
cerned about the parking. He felt more parking would hurt neighbors on
Swallow.
Robert Grant stated his concerns regarding the increase in traffic flaw. He
asked if there were other plans to expedite the traffic flaw at Mathews and
Swallow. He felt the increase traffic flow would decrease the property
value because the area would became commercial not residential.
Rick FnLsdorff stated Swallow and Stover requires a traffic light. He com-
mented Mathews would be narrcwed not to restrict the capacity of traffic,
but would provide pedestrian crossways. The purpose of the traffic light
at Swallow and Stover is to manage traffic on Swallow and to make Swallow a
less attractive street to use excessively.
Member O'Dell inquired when the traffic light would go in at Swallow and
Stover.
Rick Ensdorff stated the light would be functioning by August 1988 in con-
junction with the mall expansion opening.
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• Joe Frank discussed the parking issue again. He stated there would be five
parking spaces per 1000 square feet, which is a national requirement. He
indicated it would be detrimental to have too much parking. He also
emphasized the landscaping of the parking lot.
Pedro Engel stated he was concerned about the traffic on Swallow. He felt
the additional traffic would make the already bad situation even worst.
Al Bluebald commented staff had presented alot about the pedestrian walk-
ways and felt there were some beautiful designs. He felt the outflow on
Mathews would downgrade the property. He informed there is a gas leak
under Mathews. He commented narrowing Mathews to handle the pedestrian
flow was the wrong direction to go with the project.
Gene Mitchell stated the records should reflect that Frank Vaught has
represented him well. He indicated he is the General Manager of the Arena
Group. He commented in respect to the Foothills Square and Foothills
Plaza, the intent to pursue the right to the proposed Foothills loop would
be handled in good faith to the fullest extent by the parties present.
David Solder stated he was a member of the Foothills Merchants Association.
He indicated he was in support of the expansion. He felt the retail trade
would increase the economy. He urged the support of others. He commented
he did not understand the issue concerning the problem with traffic flow on
Swallow.
• Robin Milblank indicated she was in full support of the project. She felt
the expansion would promote good business. She noted five reasons for her
support: (1) eliminating possibility of another major mall development, (2)
enhance existing variety and provide more quality stores to fulfill the
communities needs, (3) produces a major regional drawl, (4) stimulates
economy and provides employment opportunities, and (5) the convenience and
accessibility for everyone.
Chairman Crews stated two motions were required, (1) for the Arena PUD and
(2) Foothills Mall Expansion PUD.
Member Strom inquired about the status of the project.
Joe Frank stated the Arena was an approved master plan and the Foothills
Fashion Mall was approved in 1972.
Member Strom commented on the internal circulation of the project.
Joe Frank stated the internal circulation would reinforce the missing link
between the Mall and the Square.
Member Strom indicated the loop street would improve access to the area.
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Frank Vaught stated the purpose of showing the illustration was to inform
everyone of the most current thinking. He indicated two finals were being
considered: (1) southeast and (2) northeast. He stated the traffic circu-
lation would be affected by the closure of Foothills Parkway by eliminating
the limited traffic flow in the east -west direction.
Member O'Dell inquired if storm drainage improvements would take place.
Frank Vaught indicated improvements were being reviewed by the engineering
staff regarding drainage pan installations.
Member Brown stated there was already a drainage pan in the area. She
commented it was a problem to get around the large amounts of water.
Mr. Vaught indicated that the area Member Brown commented about had an
undersized drainage pan.
Mr. Vaught stated he was aware of the problem and attempts were being made
to remedy the problem.
Member O'Dell asked if pedestrian activated signals along Stanford had been
thought about for the project.
Mr. Vaught stated they were considered but did not merit implementation.
Member Brown thanked Rick Ensdorff for his quick research on the air
quality information. She inquired if Swallow was considered a collectors
street.
Rick Ensdorff stated a collectors street ranged from 2500 to 6000 cars per
day. He indicated Swallow was at the higher end of per day use because of
its location, and also since it is located adjacent to a major shopping
center. He commented efforts continue to be made to operate the area
safely and efficiently as possible.
Member Brown commented about the air quality report. She estimated an
increased traffic flow on Swallow between College and Stanford of approxi-
mately 2 to 3 cars per minute.
Rick Ensdorff stated the estimated total 5100 cars per day due to the mall
expansion. He indicated the figure represented 15-20% of the traffic from
the mall would go toward the southeast. He commented these estimates are
acceptable for the project.
Member O'Dell motioned to approve The Arena PUD - Revised Master Plan.
Member Brown seconded. Motion passed 6-0.
Member Strom moved to approve the Foothills Mall Expansion PUD - Revised
Preliminary with the two conditions according to staff recommendation and a
third condition to work in the loop street as planned. Member O'Dell sec-
onded. Motion passed 6-0.
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• PULSE PUD CONVENIENCE SPORE AND RETAIL PAD ON 1.57 ACRES VARIANCE REQUEST
Ted Shepard gave staff description of the variance request dealing with the
timing procedure. He stated the project had been discussed at the June 2,
1987 City Council Meeting.
Member Brown moved to approve the Pulse PUD Convenience Store and Retail
Pad on 1.57 Acres Variance Request. Member O'Dell seconded. Motion passed
6-0.
THE PULSE POD, PHASE 1 - FINAL
THE PULSE PUD, CONVENIENCE SICRE AND RETAIL PAD ON 1.57 ACRES -
(Combined discussion - two motions required)
Ted Shepard gave staff description of both projects. He indicated the
conditions of the approval have been met. He stated the staff recemnends
adding another condition: the landscaping of the northern part of the site
be pulled out of the water easement and the larger trees be reduced in
size.
Jim Gefroh discussed the both projects, the final and the preliminary. He
spoke about the 10 plus acres which excluded the 1.57 acres that were
pulled from the preliminary. He discussed what would be included in the
1st Phase Final. He mentioned the six conditions included in the Board's
packets. He stated studies were completed which indicated there would be
• adequate parking. He commented that the restaurant pad provided 40 spaces
which would be allocated to the retail pad; previously the restaurant pad.
He indicated 16 spaces were required for the retail pad; therefore leaving
24 spaces added to the overall parking. He summarized by stating at the
Pulse Club 202 spaces are available under the shared parking concept. Only
178 were required for the Pulse Club. He also commented on the architec-
ture and character of the buildings remaining the same as presented in the
Preliminary PUD. He stated part of the 1st Phase - Final included the
entirety of West Stuart Street through Elizabeth with the 2nd Phase.
Dave Huber informed about the 1.57 acre site. He mentioned the extra park-
ing would accommodate the proposed retail pad. He stated the convenience
store hours 6 a.m, to 11 p.m.. He commented at the neighborhood meeting
the retail hours had been discussed. He asked if there were a change in
hours what needed to be done for the change to be approved.
Mr. Gefroh restated the architecture was the same as in the plans. He
added the retail pad would offer 40 parking spaces, yet only 16 were
required.
Ted Shepard stated staff was recommending approval of the project. He
indicated the Final meets all of the staff conditions and the Preliminary
was coupatible with the neighborhood, therefore recommended approval.
Member Brown inquired about the specific improvements district which
Shields mirrored.
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Ted Shepard commented the street matches that of the SID.
Rick Ensdorff stated the purpose of the SID. He mentioned the SID was not
approved by the City Council yet. He indicated the changes in the SID: (1)
widening and restripping (two lane with center left turn lane), (2) two
lanes in each direction, center turn lane, and bike lane. He commented the
project meets arterial standards.
Lloyd Walker, President of the Prospect and Shields Organization, stated he
had been dealing with the project for six months. He commented there was a
need to obtain a high quality mix use for the development. He stated the
Pulse Club was in a unique location. His concern dealt with looking at the
project in total. He indicated it was in a commercial phase now and
inquired what the trade-offs were by increasing the density residential and
commercial. He spoke of the Final. He indicated he liked the improvements
that would occur on Shields and those on Stuart. He inquired what would
happen if the ownership changed hands.
Ted Shepard stated the condition #7 meets these concerns.
Mr. Walker inquired about the undeveloped tracts.
Ted Shepard stated condition #10 dealt with the erosion control.
Mr. Walker indicated he would like the two pads to have limits as to their
uses as retail locations. He stated the conditions: (1) retail use limited
to operating hours of 7 a.m. to 10 p.m., (2) Pulse Club operating hours of
6 a.m. to 10 p.m, to avoid a 24-hour Nautilus situation. He commented on
the Preliminary. He felt the current proposal does not alleviate concerns.
He stated the use is intensified and unexceptable, nothing is improved. At
indicated at the neighborhood meeting proposals were made to Dave Huber. He
proposals were: (1) remove convenience store/gas station and retain the
retail pad, and (2) replace the retail pad with green space. He restated
the project was too intense of use and he wanted to see litigation. He
suggested the Board reject the proposal because no improvements had been
made and there were no signs of change to make the proposal better.
Member Brown inquired what the full capacity would be at Pulse Club.
Dave Huber stated 2000 to 2500 members.
Member Brown asked what the capacity would be at Pulse Club at one time.
Dave Huber stated there was an increase potential of 25%, meaning 160
people at one time including staff.
Member Brown inquired about the shared parking concept. She asked if side-
walks would be provided for people walking to the area.
Mr. Gefroh stated the Final identified the shared parking for the project.
He commented concrete sidewalks would be installed for pedestrians.
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. Member Brown inquired about the texture of the sidewalks at the retail pad.
Rick Ensdorff commented about Mr. Walker's suggested conditions. He stated
the site including the changes meets the acceptable traffic service capac-
ity.
Member Brown asked if the project had a less intensive at this time.
Rick Ensdorff stated it was not less intensive.
Ted Shepard commented the car wash currently at the site goes into the
evening hours creating noise and being considered a non -neighborhood use.
He stated the car wash would be replaced by retail use which was the tradi-
tional use for the area. The retail store would be considered a less
intensive use than the car wash.
Chairman Crews stated he was reluctant to place restrictions on the busi-
ness hours.
Ted Shepard indicated the hours were not on a 24-hour basis.
Member Brown asked if limits could be developed on the use of the conve-
nience store. She stated the hours should be consistent with other stores
in the area.
. Member O'Dell inquired what the procedures were to change the operating
hours. She asked if amending the PUD was necessary or would it require an
administrative change.
Member Dow commented condition #9 had been met.
Mr. Eckman stated the Pulse PUD hours of operation.
Member Dow inquired if there currently were restriction on the hours of
operation. He indicated the hours of operation should be included in the
approval of the project. He specified the hours of 6 a.m. to 11 p.m.
Member Brown stated she was not totally satisfied with the plan but indi-
cated it does meet requirements.
Member Dow moved to approved The Pulse PUD, Phase 1 - Final. Member Lang
seconded. Motion passed 6-0.
Member O'Dell moved to approved The Pulse PUD, Convenience Store and Retail
Pad on 1.57 Acres - Preliminary with the condition the landscaping and
water easement be completed. She stated she was pleased to see the car
wash gone. Member Lang seconded. Motion passed 5-1 with Member Brown
voting no.
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SHORE PLAT PFUCESS
Tom Peterson gave staff description of the project.
Member Brown moved to approve Short Plat Process. Member Strom seconded.
Motion passed 6-0.
Chairman Crews stated there would be a special session meeting on July 13,
1987. Member Brown noted she would not be present.
With no other business the meeting adjourned at 10:34 p.m.