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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING
February 24, 1986
The meeting began at 6:32 p.m.
Members present were Tim Dow, Dave Edwards, Sanford Kern, Laurie O'Dell,
Don Crews, Sharon Brown, Linda Lang and Bernie Strom. City staff included
Joe Frank, Bob Wilkinson, Bonnie Tripoli, Jan Shepard, Matt Baker and Bar-
bara Hendrickson. Legal staff was represented by Steve Roy.
Chairman Dow began the meeting by introducing the new Community Development
Director, Alan Canter and the new Planning and Zoning Board member, Bernie
Strom, who was replacing Linda Lang as alternate. Both were welcomed to
the Board.
Joe Frank gave a description of items to be continued:Drake Crossing and
Lakewood Estates, PUD. Mr. Frank requested that Resthaven, Inc., be pulled
from the Consent Agenda and placed on the Discussion Agenda. Items on the
Consent Agenda were:Terraces PUD, 800 Lemay Properties, West Mountain Plaza
PUD, and Fairbrooke at Charleston.
Chairman Dow noted that Resthaven, Inc. is to be placed on Discussion
Agenda. He asked if any other items were to be pulled for discussion.
Member Edwards stated that he would abstain from voting on item a 5, W.
Mountain Plaza PUD, due to a possible conflict of interest.
Chairman Dow asked for two separate motions. Member Crews moved to approve
Items /1, 3, 4, 7. Member O'Dell seconded the motion. Motion carried 7-0.
Chairman Dow pointed out that City Council asks that separate motions be
made when one member abstains, so the record is clear.
Member O'Dell moved to approve Item N5. Member Brown seconded the motion.
Motion carried 7-0, with Member Edwards abstaining from voting.
RESTHAVEN GROUP HOME
Bob Wilkinson, Planner, gave a description of the project.
Larry Scott, Owner and Operator of Resthaven, described the facility as a
board and care facility. The two elderly persons who are currently in the
home are not severely disabled. They are capable of taking care of them-
selves but Resthaven provides home care on a one on one basis. He said it
is his desire to become state certified, since the residents could get sup-
plemental Medicaid to pay the costs. He said they have a waiting list due
to the excellent condition of the home. The proposed home is limited to 3
elderly ladies because of the size of the home.
Chairman Dow asked if the applicant if he planned any physical changes in
the exterior of the house.
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Mr. Scott ,replied that there would be no changes in either exterior or
interior of the home.
Chairman Dow asked if he were in residence or if there was a manager in
residence.
Mr. Scott replied that he and his wife resided there. He stated that he
and his wife occupied one bedroom and the ladies occupied the other bed-
rooms. He has no plans for additions to home.
Member Edwards asked Mr. Scott if he would have to do minor configurations,
for instance, a ramp for the front steps to accommodate the elderly.
Mr. Scott stated that the residents are not considered handicapped and are
ambulatory with some help from the Scotts.
Member Edwards asked if the state licensing would require access ramps be
provided.
Mr. Scott answered that his wife went to Denver three weeks ago to take the
exam, and no mention was made of this.
Mr. Wilkinson told the Board that this project is in conformance with the
requirement for Group Home Review in a RL zone. The staff is recommending
approval with the conditions that it be for 3 clients only and any change
in the number of clients boarded, will require review by the City, to
insure conformance to the criteria of the Group Home Review.
Chairman Dow asked Mr. Wilkinson what the standards for review and on what
criteria is the Board to judge this project.
Mr. Wilkinson replied the standards are size, character and its compatibil-
ity with the neighborhood. In reviewing the number of clients and the
parking, there is an indication the residents will not be using the parking
but there is not definite commitment that no automobiles will be used. A
garage and driveway would provide two additional spaces and as noted, there
would be additional parking in the Church parking lot. Besides the Scotts,
the only other employee would be a part-time/temporary and would only come
three times a week so the staff feels that the parking issued has been
addressed. There is a requirement that they meet the state specifications
for a group home, which they have done, while going through the permitting
process.
Mr. Frank remarked that there are three criteria in the ordinance for
reviewing group homes. Those are; scale and overall appearance be consis-
tent with the neighborhood character, group homes not be over -concentrated
in any one neighborhood (the standard being 1/3 mile separation) and the
parking issue.
Mr. ,Jim O'Neill, 2816 Eagle Drive, told the Board he did submit a letter
expressing his views on the group home but would like to summarize it's
content. He is concerned about the handicapped accessibility and the
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parking. The compatibility of the elderly and the noises of an active
neighborhood concerns him.
Lavotta Gorenson, 1405 Robertson, stated that her mother, Pearl Manners,
has been a resident of Resthaven since August. She stated her mother is
ambulatory but does not drive. Her mother has been in five homes, includ-
ing the DMA, but needed more care. Ms. Gorenson feels this is the best
home because of the loving care and encouragement to keep busy. Her mother
is happier and considers this residence her home. She then read a letter
from Beatrice Stubbs, a resident at 2821 Eagle Dr. for the last 8 months.
Ms. Stubbs stated her happiness at being a resident and her interaction
with the small children in the neighborhood. Ms. Stubbs asks the Board to
approve the application for the group home.
Ms. Janie Griffin, 2621 Kildeer Dr., told the Board she has known the
Scotts for the past six years and can vouch for their credibility. She
stated they are very capable of taking care of the residents, whom she has
found to be happy. She feels the Scott residence is well maintained and
feels there is no problem with parking and the children. She feels that
there is a need for this type of home.
Alice Sheffler, 2820 Eagle Dr., feels the Scotts really care about the
elderly and the children in the neighborhood afford these ladies a joy not
found in a nursing home environment. She is highly supportive of Rest -
haven.
John Bradley, 2817 Eagle Dr., is opposed to this project. He feels the home
is not safe, as there is no fire sprinklering and no exit from upper
floors. Due to the levels, it is necessary for the elderly to go up and
down stairs to reach the bathrooms and the driveway slopes. He said the
Scotts presently use pieces of wood to shorten the length of the step and
is concerned about the capability of escape from the house during a fire.
He stated that a daycare is on the other side of his home surrounding him
with commercial enterprises which he did not anticipate when he purchased
the home.
Bob Everson, original owner of 2821 Eagle Dr., stated 2821 Eagle Dr, is a
multi -level home and not 2200 sq. ft. but 1750 sq. ft. He wonders how the
extra measurements were added. He said he left the home because it was too
small for his family. .He voiced concern over escape routes for the resi-
dents in event of fire and is very much opposed to this project.
Jim Buldock, 2717 Killdeer Dr., expressed his desire for the elderly to be
cared for. He asked if the "Inc." in the Resthaven project is approved,
then this would allow other businesses to locate in this neighborhood and
is the main objection to this project.
Chairman Dow explained the use of "Inc." is possibly used for tax or liab-
ility purposes.
John Icorn, 2829 Eagle Dr., told the Board that his children enjoy the
elderly and felt the elderly should be addressing the Board's questions.
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Brice Muller, 2828 Eagle Dr., said he has been a resident of the neighbor-
hood for a short period of time but feels the response of the elderly to
the children is great. He feels the home is compatible to the residents
and is supportive of this project.
Marge Heddles, 2652 Abseth Dr., voiced her support of this group home. She
stated there is a bathroom on the floor Ms. Stubbs is on as well as, a
bathroom on the floor the other ladies are on with exits on the lower
level. She cited the living arrangements by college students who have 5 or
more persons in one house and feels that is more detrimental to the neigh-
borhood than Resthaven.
Deby Wangsness and her daughter, Amy, 2700 Killdeer Dr., stated their
enjoyment of the residents of the group home. Amy told the Board she talks
to the old people every day.
Member Kern asked if the project is approved, does the property remain a
group home indefinitely, even if the Scotts sell.
Mr. Wilkinson replied that this was true but it could be reconverted to a
single family as there are no restrictions.
Member Kern asked if it would need to be reviewed again to consider it for
a group home or does that designation reside indefinitely.
Steve Roy, Legal Staff, stated that if the zoning weren't changed so this
became a non -conforming use, he felt the designation would run with the
property indefinitely. If the zoning were changed so this became a non-
conforming use, and the use were abandoned for a year, it would have to be
reviewed again.
Chairman Dow asked ,Mr. Roy if the applicant is Resthaven, Inc. or the
owner, Mr. Scott, and is the right to the use run with the corporate
entity, which is the operating company and therefore the right will not run
with the land.
Mr. Roy feels the right runs with the land and can't be personal in nature
to one particular user and whether Mr. Scott is operating this as sole pro-
prietorship or as a corporation, if the proposed use meets these criteria,
either can take advantage of that right.
Member Brown asked what kind of residents can be in a group home and the
intensity of parking and would any future owners of 2821 have parking prob-
Iems.
Mr. Wilkinson said the parking would need addressing if there were an
increase in the number of people in the group home. A group home is def-
ined as a residence operated as a single dwelling, licensed or approved by
a governmental agency for the purpose of providing special care or rehabil-
itation due to homelessness, physical condition or illness, mental condi-
tion or illness, or social/disciplinary/behavioral problems provided the
authorized supervisory personnel are present on the premises.
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Permission to this applicant to use the facility as a group home would per-
mit transfer of ownership of a different type of group home as long it
meets the three criteria that has been referred to.
Member Brown asked if the different uses would require separate state
approval on licensing such as working with juveniles or handicapped.
Mr. Wilkinson stated that by reason of those separate licensing require-
ments, there would be contruls on the use. The fact that the Board has
approved the group home would not decide the future use because the home
would have to meet the requirements by the state.
Member Brown asked if Mr. Scott met all state requirements in order to get
state certification, such as fire safety.
Mr. Wilkinson said those licensing requirements would have to be met in
order to get certification.
Chairman Dow asked if the Board could restrict the type of group home to
the elderly as applied for in this instance as opposed to having it wide
open for any other defined group, under the ordinance.
Mr. Roy replied if all parties are in agreement, it would be possible to
accept. He questions the enforceability of such an agreement, in the event
a subsequent user challenges their having appropriate criteria which would
result in approval of a different group home. He would not object to
entering into such an agreement, on behalf of the City.
Member Brown asked if there were any other group homes in the area.
Mr. Wilkinson answered no.
Chairman Dow asked the applicant if he would object to the condition of the
group home to be for the elderly as opposed to any other group, who would
be covered by the ordinance.
Mr. Scott indicated that he had no objection to that restriction.
Member Kern voiced his lack of certainty. He is cognizant of the value of
the Scotts' work but feels uneasy about the general nature of group homes
and the future uses. Should the Scotts sell the home in a few years, some-
one could have residents with behavioral problems.
Mr. Scott responded to the concerns by stating that there are five levels
of care, the first being able to feed and care themselves but homeless, the
second being able to feed and care but forgetful, the third level being
bedridden, the fourth being individual can't care/feed themselves and the
last or fifth being in intensive care. He and his wife can only operate on
levels one and two and cannot administer any medications.
Chairman Dow asked where he might refer to these levels.
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Mr. Scott replied they are state requirements in House Bill 11-14, passed
five years ago but never funded. He stated that this Bill will be funded
in 1987 and every home in Fort Collins will have to be licensed. There are
13 of these homes operating now as boarding houses, board and care. Rest -
haven is the first to go for a group home status.
Chairman Dow asked the applicant if he would object to approval stating it
is a group home for the elderly with level 1 and 2, as defined in state
statutes.
Mr. Scott stated he would consent to approval on those conditions.
Mr. Roy asked the Board to approve with a limit rather than the agreement.
He felt it should not be framed as a condition on the use of the property.
Mr. Scott replied he would be happy to amend the application to state he
was seeking permission to operate a group home for the elderly only at care
levels 1 and 2.
Member Kern asked Mr. Roy what force does the amendment carry with
subsequent purchasers of this property.
Mr. Roy replied it is probably not enforceable against a subsequent user
who would like a different group home use.
Member Edwards stated the extent of their deliberations is symptomatic of
trying to deal with the ordinance. The City ordinance states they can
authorize by special review a group home or not a group home and they are
trying to further define a group home. He feels they are trying to get by
another means, the issue of whether the Board thinks a group home of this
kind or any other kind is appropriate on that street.
Member O'Dell moved they approve the Resthaven Group Home, for use of
elderly people only at levels 1 and 2, as amended by Mr. Scott. Ms. O'Dell
feels it fits the criteria for group home. Member Crews seconded the
motion.
Member Edwards stated his own line of questioning would have been different
had they been the state licensing body for the use and he felt they were
only enpowered with the planning aspects of this project and there may be
the possibility the neighborhood will find comfort in the protection
afforded by the state licensing body.
Motion for approval passed 6-1 with Member Kern voting due to the future
possibility for misuse of the property.
Eastside Neighborhood Plan - Proposed Amendment
Joe Frank reviewed for the meeting, the Board's recommended for adoption to
City Council on Nov. 25, 1985. One of the conditions attached to the recom-
mendation was that of the Mulberry Street corridor and a number of alterna-
tives of how to deal with the expected increase of traffic volumes. At the
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November meeting, the Planning and Zoning Board, Eastside Steering Commit-
tee and the City Staff felt there hadn't been sufficient citizen input and
evaluation of those alternatives to be able to make a recommendation to the
City Council on this item, so it was the one issue in the Plan that did not
go forward to the Council. The Board asked Staff to go back and review the
alternatives, gain public input and to come back to the Board with a recom-
mendation from the staff and ESN. On February 5, 1986, the Steering Com-
mittee, City Transportation Dept, and City Staff conducted a Neighborhood
Meeting and alternatives presented to a audience made up of approximately
70 people. The recommendation made was that they needed to look at other
alternatives than the ones presented. The Staff discussed these issues and
felt they could not make an exact recommendation on the Mulberry corridor,
but needed to look at the area in terms of long range planning effort. Two
polities reflect that decision. The first states the City needs to recog-
nize a better understanding of future transportation needs in the next 20
years and the neighborhood needs to get heavily involved in other options,
not only for Mulberry but for the entire community. The City needs to con-
sider the impacts upon the neighborhood and there are 10 items which were
particular concerns of the neighborhood which need to be considered when
the Staff does the overall transportation planning effort. The second pol-
icy deals with City-wide policy plan and City-wide concerns. Mr. Frank
feels a policy should be added in the Plan which states the City needs to
get involved with the public and provide some policy such as designating a
transportation planning function within the City, creation of a citizen
committee to help coordinate and facilitate the public involvement in that
transportation effort and explore a number of community education opportu-
nities.
Chairman Dow asked Mr. Frank if there is time table.
Mr. Frank replied the director of the Transportation Dept, is discussing a
reorganization effort. He did not think the Transportation Dept, had an
exact timetable and is something they want to pursue with the new Director
and the City Council.
Chairman Dow asked what the Board is to do in the interim with any signifi-
cant proposals that may come along. He asked if the Board should have Mr.
Frank come back with a preliminary report, suggesting the general movement
of policy plan.
Mr. Frank answered the Board might suggest to the City Council there be a
specific timetable for the plan to get under way. In the mean time, staff
will have to continue on as they have approached it in the past and that is
to plan for all the alternatives until we can receive a specific recommend-
ation.
Member Kern asked if it would be unreasonable, since the development of a
computer traffic simulator model if they were to begin discussing this
again in the fall, after staff has had some time to investigate the uses of
this model.
Mr. Frank said he did not know the exact plans of the Public Works
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Dept., but he thought they would appreciate having the Board's support to
give to the Council and any words of encouragement would also be appreci-
ated.
Lyndal Hesterburg, 415 East Laurel, a member of ESN Steering Committee
wished to report the results of the neighborhood meeting and the opinion of
the Steering Committee. He stated the meeting had a good turnout and a
strong majority voiced the opinion that the neighborhood doesn't support
the couplet and should not be supported at this time, the neighborhood does
not support the widening of Mulberry and finally, the neighborhood supports
additional studies on alternative and future transportation needs. The
Steering Committee does support the amendments, as presented to the Board,
and urges the Board's support. He commended the City Staff for the out-
standing and very professional job that they have done both with the Steer-
ing Committee and the individual residents, as they had gone beyond what
normal professionals would do. The staff was excellent guidance, reference
and finally excellent teachers.
Barbara Liebler, 817 Peterson, member of Core Area Neighborhood Board, read
a letter which she had submitted to Mr. Frank, in which members of CAN can-
vassed the area for the couplet and found opposition. The letter stated
that the CAN Board Directors opposed the Magnolia/Mulberry couplet proposal
and recommend no firm recommendation to widened Mulberry until after imple-
mentation of other street improvements in the ESN Plan. The letter recom-
mended the City develop a concrete plan for alternative transportation
within the City. The CAN Board thanks Joe Frank.and the Planning Staff for
this addition to the ESN Plan. She stated that Charlie Koons, manager of
Mountain Plains, is losing possible tenants with the couplet decision up in
the air and Ms. Koons would urge the Board to make a firm decision on the
couplet.
Ken Bonetti, 722 West Mountain, read letters from three businesses involved
in the ESN. The first was from Liston and Barbara Linedecker and support
the opposition to the couplet. The next letter was from Wayne Vederleen,
owner of the Baker House, 304 East Mulberry, he feels destruction of the
Baker House would be a great loss and is opposed to the one way couplet of
Mul-berry and Magnolia and supports the Planning Dept.'s decision to set up
a citizens' committee to explore alternative traffic solutions. The last
letter is from Charlie Koons, Mountain Plains Property, who feels the one
way streets will hurt their businesses and asks the Board to consider their
concerns when making a decision on this issue. Mr. Bonetti also would like
to applaud the Planning Department for the recommendation that the City
create a Transportation Planning Function and involve citizens in alterna-
tives and urges the Board to eliminate the one way couplet.
Jim Woodward, 400 South Grant, stated he was one of the persons who can-
vassed the neighborhood and all business owners were strongly opposed to
the Mulberry/Magnolia one way and are in fact, opposed to the Howes and
Mason because it has resulted in the decrease in their businesses. Mr.
Woodward would like to commend the City on its recommendations but is
opposed to the one way couplet.
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Chairman Dow asked Mr. Frank about the neighborhood's concern for the
potential of one ways and widening of Mulberry and wished to clarify the
recommendation of staff to not recommend any particular program or elimina-
tion of a program but to urge a comprehensive study, taking into account
the concerns not only voiced tonight but other transportation issues within
the City.
Mr. Frank stated the policy plan at one time, included the option of uti-
lizing Magnolia Street, east of Mathews as a one way couplet but was not
recommended as it was not in the best interests of the City, so that part
was deleted from the Plan. A strong policy statement was made that Magno-
lia east of Mathew should remain as a two way residential street. Mr.
Frank did not want to make any decision on alternatives and would like to
go back to looking at the issue of Mulberry corridor and its impact on the
neighborhood and community.
Member Kern stated if the implementation of the ESN Plan would not occur
until the year 2005, there would be a minimum of 15 years before it would
be implemented.
Mr. Frank replied that it is a long term plan and more time is needed for
transportation goals of the community.
Member O'Dell stated that if the couplet and the widening of Mulberry were
eliminated at this time as options, she feels it would be counterproductive
to a transportation -planning effort.
Member Crews agreed with Member O'Dell and stated the Board should not eli-
minate any options at this early date because it would tie the hands of the
people doing the study.
Member Brown stated that at this date, no one can say what should happen
there. She feels this east -west corridor really has a community impact and
she wholeheartedly hopes the City establishes a Transportation/Planning
division in the City to work on this problem.
Member Kern motioned that no decision be made at this particular time on
any corridor or any mechanism for the evaluation of traffic in that area
but that the Board strongly support the forming of a traffic planning com-
mittee involving the traffic engineer and one that would be supportive and
incor-porate a good deal of community effort and input.
Chairman Dow asked Member Kern if the motion is to approve and recommend to
Council the summary of the staff recommendation in the packet.
Member Kern replied yes.
Member Crews seconded the motion. Motion was unanimously approved.
Member Strom suggested that the Planning Staff and Transportation Staff
report back to the Board perhaps 6 months from this date, on the status and
keep the Board appraised of what is going on, as it is a very important
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concern in regards to land use planning.
Chairman Dow asked Mr. Frank to give the Board an update on the study 4-6
months from now.
Mr. Frank stated he planned to have at the April worksession, the Transpor-
tation and Planning staff and will keep the Board appraised of the Plan. He
concluded by saying the recommendations will accompany the Plan at the
March 18th City Council meeting.
TWIN CREEKS ESTATES - Master Plan
Joe Frank presented the Master Plan and Preliminary Plan together but
stated they would need to be voted on separately. He presented the Master
Plan, which included manufactured housing, mobile homes and multi -family
dwellings, neighborhood park, childcare center and limited warehouse sto-
rage, located on the southeast corner of Trilby and Lemay Ave. The Prelimi-
nary -Phase I, which calls for 70 acres of the entire 143 acres site and
consists of 402 manufactured homes on 70.4 acres.
Rick Hattman, Gefroh and Hattman, Inc., stated this is an amendment to the
existing master plan known as Stanton Creek. He feels some of the changes
are minor and have to do with the overall circulation pattern on the site
which better serve the site. They have created a strengthened pedestrian
orientation to the circulation system, an additional city park and have
excluded the previous townhome uses. He pointed out the area on a map and
the activity surrounding the site and described the future collector
streets and circulation. The developers have made Granville Street the
collector street and have provided three access points from Lemay to help
direct the neighborhood traffic out and to the other transportation net-
works of the city. He feels the plan provides easy access for all lots to
reach any destination within the town. They also have created a pedestrian
access system and open space system which will link the whole property
together as it develops in the future. He noted along the arterial
streets, they have provided a greenbelt open space from the developed
tracts both along Lemay and Trilby and open space along the collectors. He
described the uses for Tract A and B which are slated for manufactured
housing. Tract A has a centrally located clubhouse and Tract B has a cen-
trally located daycare and warehouse facility and will be sold for those
uses. Tract C is slated for apartment/condo which is approximately 12 unit
per acre density and the neighborhood park. Tract D has a slightly lower
unit density with manufac-tured housing and contains the wildlife habitat
area which will be an enhanced area of the Fossil Creek Floodway as well as
the Stanton Creek Drainage Basin. Tract E contains auto, RV, and boat sto-
rage along with the development and as the individual tracts develop, tem-
porary facilities will be provided for RV and boat storage. Tract F, which
is approximately 1 acre in the north eastern section, is requesting Transi-
tional zoning. The Preliminary area was designated by Mr. Hattman on the
map and the four major points of concern were addressed. The project goals
are to'provide housing for low and moderate incomes, while providing a
level of quality that is not available in current in manufactured houses.
Due to the escalating cost of housing, it makes it hard for first time
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buyers/young adults to find acceptable housing and this project is geared
to meet this need. The housing types demonstrate the current design of
modular housing which is not "trailers" and this project is looking for
sales, the buyer purchasing the lot and home. There will three types of
modular homes which will provided, the first being one which will placed on
a permanent foundation, the second which will have permanent tiedowns, the
third which is the existing modular home. All homes will either be on a
permanent foundation or a permanent tiedown which has to meet the City's
building codes and each home has to obtain a Certificate of Occupancy. He
gave a description of materials to used on roof and siding, using HUD stan-
dards. 40% of the lot will be taken by the unit itself and he pointed out
that the homes are not the long, narrow homes but are a variety of homes.
The site determining the location of the home on the lot. All streets meet
City standards, so parking will be allowed on both sides of the street.
Chairman Dow asked Mr. Hattman about the staff conditions and if he felt
there were any problems with those conditions.
Mr. Hattman stated they had reviewed the staff conditions and feel they can
incorporate the conditions and still have a successful plan. They agree
the staff's comments will enhance the project.
Member Kern asked about the access to Transfort and if there is to be any
provision for Transfort on the site itself.
Mr. Gefroh, Gefroh-Hattman, Inc., replied Transfort will be running down
Lemay Ave, and they would be happy to work with Transfort to include the
project in their stops.
Mr. Frank stated the facility near the project, is only the garage and
there are no route plans now, but feels the developer might work with
Transfort now so they will be included in service if it expands in the
future.
Member Kern asked about a portion of the site which is steep and voiced
concern about drainage.
Mike Jones, Parson & Associates, stated there is no drainage problems and
will tie in with the Master Drainage Plan that has been established.
Mr. Frank gave a staff report in which he stated the staff feels the pro-
ject is in conformity of Land Use Policies. He listed the seven condi-
tions. With these conditions, the plan is recommended for approval.
Member Crews asked if they are being to asked to approve about.528 units on
108 acres and asked if the Board had approved 390 units on 60 acres in Pro-
vincetown. It appeared that the plan does not meet the mixed use and the
Board is creating many mobile home parks. Needed clarification on mixed
use in this project,
Mr. Frank stated the project deals with mixed use; provides a mixed income
group, encourages a greater variety in land uses to avoid a sterile lands-
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cape and provides a visual variety. The developers are providing a variety
with multiple family, daycare, storage, public park and manufactured hous-
ing units.
Chairman Dow asked about the T-transitional in the NE corner as that area
might seek approval in the future for a 7-11 type store or convenience
store if the density is developed in this area. It this is the case, then
the Board should perhaps make it more accessible.
Mr. Frank replied the connection to interior streets would be difficult due
to the topography of Mill Creek. The staff struggled with what to do with
this site and, because development isn't for some time, no definite plan-
ning was done. The staff felt that it would be wise to wait and see how
the area develops.
Member Brown asked about the underlying zoning.
Mr. Frank replied the area is RL-Low Density Residential with PUD con-
dition and the transitional use is a holding zone until the plan is amended
and comes back through the Board.
Member Crews asked about the storage in the NW corner of Parcel B.
Mr. Hattman stated that the area is to be a mini storage facility, poten-
tial for on -site laundry facility and storage facilities for residents.
Phase One would have temporary storage developed on unplatted ground for RV
and boats.
Member Brown asked about driveways, carports and garages.
Mr. Hattman replied each lot will have on -site parking for two cars and
choice for garage is optional, requiring a building permit. With 36'
streets parking on both sides of the street is allowed. Driveways will be
aligned with site, depending on the view preference of residents. Garages
will*not necessarily be two car garage, but will probably be a single car
garage.
Member Strom asked the applicant what percentage of the lots will accommo-
date the units with the doors facing the front street as opposed to end on.
Mr. Hattman answered the lots are 42' wide and the home could be placed
different ways on the lot with both side or front entry, depending on the
home the person purchases. The new style of modular homes, allows you some
flexibility.
Member Strom asked Mr. Hattman if he was going to install any of the units
or will.it be lots for sale.
Mr. Hattman replied there is, at this time, a commitment from a modular
home unit on foundation. With other parts of the site, it is on a lot
basis and they would be trying to sell blocks to dealership but developers
would not be interested in the selling.
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Member Strom asked the difference between permanent tie -down and permanent
foundation.
Mr. Hattman stated the tie down are permanent material similar to the walls
and the permanent is similar found on single family home. They wouldn't be
any different from any single family home.
Member O'Dell asked how large the pocket parks would be.
Mr. Frank answered he had no definite size right now, but possibly 1/4 to
1/2 acre in size. The homeowners would do the maintenance.
Member Edwards asked about possible 0 lot line requirements to minimize
narrow sideyards.
Mr. Hattman replied you would need to fire rate the walls and roof in those
sections and would raise the cost of the unit.
Debbie Tamlin, broker with the group, told the Board that the response in
this project has been great.
Member Crews was concerned that this project would be similar to Province
town
Member Edwards motioned to approve the Master Plan on the basis of it meet-
ing the criteria. Member O'Dell seconded the motion.
Chairman Dow feels they do not have the means to plan for this specific
kind of use and are left to the forces of the market in terms in how many
units of this nature the marketplace might support in this locale. He felt
the plan could not be denied under the current policies.
Member Kern also stated his concern over the mixed use provisions in the
LOGS not only on the site provided here, but from the overall point of
view.
Member Brown felt that this project combined with the Provincetown project
is too much for the community to handle.
Motion to approve Twin Creeks -Master Plan passed 5-2, with Members Brown
and Crews voting no.
Member O'Dell motioned to approve Twin Creeks- Preliminary with the seven
conditions outlined by staff. Member Kern seconded the motion.
Chairman Dow asked that a condition with the lots shapes and configuration
be added.
Member Lang also agreed and added she does not see much change at Final.
Mr. Frank suggested using set -backs and other mechanisms as well as lot
sizes to provide variety.
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Chairman Dow asked that this be an eighth condition for approval.
Motions made for approval with seven conditions amended their motions to
include the eighth condition.
Motion to approve was passed 6-1, with Member Brown voting no.
Member Edwards asked the applicant how the vacant lots will be maintained.
Mr. Hattman replied that the developers would be responsible for the
maintenance of these lots.
SPRING CREEK PROFESSIONAL PARK PUD
Bob Wilkinson, City Planner, gave a brief description of the project.
Jerry Nix, a broker for Mountain States Properties and representing the
applicant, Dr. Dennis Brenkert. He gave a description and history of the
medical/dental facilities located near Poudre Valley Hospital. Part of the
presentation comes from the Coloradoan and Fortune Magazine, which have
noted the change within the medical industry today and he thought these
articles important as they show how the profession is going to the public
in high density areas. The project consists of 12 buildings and Poudre
Valley Hospital has voiced interest in locating in the Professional Park
and is reviewing the facility. The majority of the doctors who might be
using the offices are anticipated to be practicing doctors. Mr. Nix
reviewed the surrounding area of this centrally located project. He stated
this area is the highest density in the Fort Collins area. He described
the architecture stying with all masonry brick construction and shake
shingles and an a high level of integrated landscaping and the buildings
will resemble single family residential dwellings. He said Dr. Brenkert
has met with other doctors and he believes up to 4 buildings will begin
construction, if approved, this spring and within 3 years the project will
be built out. He used the projector to demonstrate the surrounding resi-
dential and commercial developments in the area. He addressed the lands-
cape around each building and the declaration lane on Shields St.
Mr. Wilkinson gave the Board a summary of the neighborhood meeting held on
January 6, 1986. The main concerns of the neighborhood regarded the
improvement of Shields, landscaping, and architectural compatibility. He
feels the overall use was better received than prior PUD. Mr. Wilkinson
stated the developer addressed the conditions and asks the Board's approval
with the following conditions: 1) energy conservation be required, 2) spe-
cial consideration be given in architectural design of facades along
Shields to assure modulation of exterior walls. 3) improve Shields St, to
City standards (five lane arterial) along the entire property frontage, 4)
median at the entrance to be 20' from the flowline and information needed
as to whether sight distance is adequate at this intersection at the Final
PUD stage, 5) northern parking areas need to be modified to create greater
landscape setbacks 6) parking area between buildings B and C should attain
greater setback from Shields, 7) aisle in front of buildings L and G should
be signed no parking, 8) additional modifications in the landscape plan to
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address integration of the project with site and surroundings, utilizing a
professional landscape architect or designer.
Lloyd Walker, 1027 West Lake and Chairman of Prospect/Shields Neighborhood,
told the Board the area is the highest in residents and the neighborhood
objectives deal with quality developments. They feel this project will pro-
vide a service to the area and support the project. His main concern was
that the guidelines which take a project to this point were not followed
and cited the fact that the neighborhood meeting was held before Conceptual
Review. Mr. Walker asked the staff if the rules have been changed, please
let them now.
Mr. Nix said the staff comments will be addressed excepting item p3. He
stated that the street oversizing funds have been depleted and it is normal
practice for a developer to improve the street in front of the project to
arterial standards and charged with a cost of a local standard and the City
would then repay any oversizing to arterials. He feels the Hill Pond PUD,
which is to the east of Shields, should have to contribute to the cost of
street improvements, as should any dense project which contributes traffic
flow. The staff requires the project to improve Shields to a full five lane
or participate in a SID. Mr. Nix would like the SID to be voluntary action
with all the projects in this area and would like the Board to recommend to
the City Council to impose a mandatory SID in this area and feels this
smaller project should not be responsible for the improvements.
Chairman Dow asked Mr. Frank if, when the City completed Rolland Moore
Park, they also imposed requirements of a five lane arterial and what would
he suggest in addressing the development of Shields Street.
Mr. Wilkinson replied the Traffic Engineer felt the added traffic on
Shields from this project can't be absorbed without an improved five lane
arterial.
Mr. Frank answered the Parks Dept, does have the money and he thought they
were waiting to do the improvements all at once.
Chairman Dow suggests the staff works with the applicant in terms of some
equitable portion of the expenses.
Mr. Frank stated it is the current condition and would try to recapture
from Hill Pond and would like to be able to recapture from future develop-
ments up on Hill Pond, but would like to look into this.
Bonnie Tripoli, Development Coordinator, said currently the only area
assessed are developments which abut the street and impact it. The staff
has looked at this but hasn't had the opportunity to proceed with it.
Member Strom asked what was the mechanism for architectural control.
Mr. Nix replied that there are some very strict controls.
Dr. Brenkert, applicant, told the Board although the design will be basic,
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he would allow some creativity. The developers would be responsible for
the maintenance and a fence would enclose the whole area.
Member Brown asked where the two story buildings are located.
Mr. Nix answered building H might be a two story but doesn't know for sure
due to the individual doctors and dentists' uses, such as handicapped
access and types of patients.
Member Kern motioned to approve with the seven conditions recommended by
staff. Member Edwards seconded the motion.
Chairman Dow asked Legal Staff how the Board could address the SID issue.
Steve Roy replied he couldn't give definition that would let staff effec-
tively follow but the Board has to vote whether to impose the condition
that staff has recommended because if the SID doesn't work then the devel-
oper needs to know if he can develop in the absence of that requirement.
Mr. Wilkinson stated this was a strong issue in the neighborhood meeting
and an issue that should be addressed before approval.
Chairman Dow agreed it is an important condition but a requirement made at
the developers expense. He thought if the Board adds language to condition
three, requesting they explore other SID possibilities along Shields Street
with City staff and property owners.
Member Kern and Member Edwards amended their motions to include the condi-
tions including the expanded language in condition f3. Motion to approve
passed 7-0.
Mr. Frank closed business with information about a worksession to follow
the next meeting. It would include a discussion about the Economic Devel-
opment Task Force. The meeting adjourned at approximately 11 p.m.
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Core Area neighborhood
p.o. box 1282, fort coilins, Colorado 80522 484-2673
February 24, 1986
Dear Planning and Zoning Board:
Traffic within the Core Area Neighborhood has long been a
concern of our residents. We have considered the problem at
College/Mulberry/Magnolia for three years now, and did further
work on it in the last month.
To be sure that our reading of neighborhood sentiment was up
to date, during January some of our members canvassed the area
that would be affected by either a Magnolia/Mulberry couplet or
by the widening of Mulberry. They went door to door in both
business and residential areas of Mulberry, Magnolia, and Mathews
streets. They found strong opposition to the possibility of a
Mulberry/Magnolia couplet.
Based on that information as well as our understanding of
the issue in three years of study, the CAN Board of Directors
voted unanimously to once again oppose the Mulberry/ Magnolia
couplet proposal, and to recommend that no firm decision be made
on widening Mulberry until after implementation of other street
improvements suggested on page 45 under "City Wide Capital.
Improvements" in the East Side Neighborhood Plan. These
improvements are aimed at letting non -destination traffic avoid
the congestion of the downtown area.
We further voted to recommend again that the city develop
concrete plan for alternative transportation within the city,
including bus, bicycle, and pedestrian traffic as well as park
and ride options or a downtown shuttle system. This
recommendation is already a part of the East Side Neighborhood
Plan.
The CAN Board made these recommendations at the neighborhood
meeting of February 5. At that meeting, many residents voiced
their opposition to both the couplet and to the widening of
Mulberry. At the end of the neighborhood meeting, a vote of
those present showed an overwhelming majority would like the city
to make a firm decision now to NOT build a Magnolia/Mulberry
couplet and to NOT widen Mulberry. They firmly endorsed the city
wide alternative transportation study instead. It is the policy
of the CAN Board to endorse the decisions of the residents, and
we do endorse this recommendation. We urge you to make a firm
dicision now against the couplet.
The Proposed New Policies for Mulberry Street recommended by
Joe Frank are excellent additions to the Neighborhood Plan. We
understand that they would be added to the East Side Neighborhood
Plan on page 45 as an addition to, not a replacement of, section
2.2.1. This would let stand the neighborhood's statement of
opposition to the couplet idea.
The recommended addition of "City Wide Policy Concerns" is
also excellent. We understand that it would also be an addition
to the current wording, appearing on page 81 of the Plan. Both
these policy additions take into account wider issues of interest
to the rest of the city, and they involve citizen input on these
important questions. We heartily agree that any solution must
serve the city's needs as well as the neighborhood's needs, as we
are mutually dependent. We would like to thank the Planning
staff and particularly Joe Frank for this suggested addition to
the Plan_
Sincerely,
Barbara Liebler
CAN Board of Directors
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PERIOD
AREAS OF SIGNIFICANCE -- CHECK AND JUSTIFY BELOW
-PREHISTORIC
-ARCH EULUUY-PREHISTORIC _COMMUNITY PLANNING
_LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE
_RELIGION
_1400.1499
-ARCHEOLOGY. HI STORI C
_CONSERVATION
_LAW
_SCIENCE
_1500.1599
_AGRICULTURE
_ECONOMICS
_LITERATURE
_.SCULPTURE
_I8001899
XARCHITECTURE
-EDUCATION
_MILITARY
_SOCIAUHUMANITARIAN
_17001799
-ART
_ENGINEERING
_MUSIC
_THEATER
X 1800.1899
._.COMMERCE
X EXPLORATION, SETTLEMENT
_PHILOSOPHY
_TRANSPORTATION
-1900
_COMMUNICATIONS
_..INDUSTRY
._ POLITICS/GOVERNMENT
_ OTHER ISPECIFYI
_INVENTION
SPECIFIC DATES 1896
BUILDER/ARCHITECT Frederick R..Baker
STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE
The Baker House is significant in two areas: the builder/owner's importance in
the establishment and development of Fort Collins and in its architectural uniqueness
in the community.
Frederick R. Baker, 1844-1902, was a native of Ohio, who enlisted in the Union
Light Guards Seventh Independent Troop, Ohio Volunteer Cavalry, in 1863. This company
became famous as the "Black Horse Squadron," Abraham Lincoln's military escort. Baker's
assignment was the carrying of dispatches to and from the White House, the War Depart-
ment and the Army, a post which led to a personal acquaintance with President Lincoln.
For a time during the war, Baker also served with the secret service. He was mustered
out of the army in September of 1865 and returned to Ohio.
He moved to the Cache la Poudre Valley in 1873, only nine years after the founding
of Fort Collins, and soon became one of the leading farmers and stock raisers, intro-
ducing thoroughbred shorthorn cattle into Larimer County. Baker's importance to the
community can be seen in his election to the Larimer County Board of Commissioners,
1890-1893, and in his election to the post of mayor of Fort Collins for four terms,
1895-1902. Baker's influence was decisive in the establishment, after a long struggle,
of the first city park and in the location of the city's first library, a Carnegie
institution,in that park.
The house itself, which Baker built after he retired from farming, is one of the
few local examples of the "Queen Anne" variety of Victorian architecture. Fort Collins's
architecture is.somewhat lacking in the imagination and flamboyance that characterized
much of Victorian building; the surrounding communities such as Boulder and Greeley
possess a great deal more tlineteenth century architectural style and variety. Many.of,
the Fort Collins residences that did qualify as showpieces have been torn down; the
Baker House is one of the relatively few remaining local examples of a fairly aFfluent
n'neteenth century lifestyle. As such, it is important in the community's sense of
itself and its passage through time.
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February 24, 1986
To whom it may concern:
We the tenants at 400 Remington feel by making Magnolia and Mulberry one
way streets will severly hamper our business. It would be difficult for
us as well as our clients to have access to the building thus making it
difficult to re -lease office space.
Our building houses an attorney, a real estate broker, a CPA and a property
management company. All four businesses rely on easy access to the building
for clients and associates. If the one way streets are put in business will
be damaged roquiring each to find a new location. Three out of the four
businesses have already stated that Lhey will not re -lease in the building
if the one way streets are put in.
Please consider our concerns when making a decision on this issue!
Sincerely,
The tenants of 400 Remington
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24 February 1986
Planning and Zoning Board
City of Fort Collins
300 LaPorte Avenue
Fort Collins, Colorado 80521
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Several neighbors, Mrs. Leyendecker, and I applaud the Planning Department's
decision not to recommend changes to Mulberry and Magnolia streets at this time.
Most of us have the results of fast moving traffic through our quiet neighbor-
hood, and believe that even though it would be diverted from the residential
blocks on East Magnolia, the entire area will continue to be threatened. Chil-
dren still will walk to schools, to Safeway, and to 7-11. Many senior citizens
who live in the area also walk to the above stores, do business at the banks,
and make purchases at shops along South Mason. They also visit the Post Office
located on South Howes, not only to mail letters, but to transact business with
the Social Security office located in that building. Most of them are terrified
by the fast-moving traffic on Remington and Mathews as it exists at present.
Many move slowly and cannot negotiate the intersection at College and Magnolia
without becoming trapped on the island in the middle. I personally have taken
several of them across College Avenue and have been glared at and yelled at by
drivers more concerned with speed than safety. I am in reasonably good physi-
cal condition and, on several occasions, I have been harassed by drivers on
Remington, College, Mason, and Howes even though I had begun to cross the streets
when I had the light or they had not turned on to the artery. I can imagine
what conditions will be like for pedestrians if Mathews and Magnolia become one-
way streets.
The noise and inconvenience will play a part since Magnolia will be closed
to us from Mathews west, and we will be forced to use Olive and Peterson streets,
and the alleys for egress and ingress to and from our dwellings. In addition,
at least two historic dwellings (the Baker House at 304 East Mulberry and the
house at 401 Mathews) will be demolished if the block between Mulberry and Mag-
nolia, on Mathews, becomes one-way. This will cause not only a loss to our
cultural heritage, but since they are listed on the National Register, their
demolition may prevent the use of federal money which doubtless the city will
need to make the conversion. Furthermore, if the city desires to clear resi-
dents out of the core area, one of the best ways to do it is to make it un-
pleasant for people to live in the district. Residents, by their mere presence
in an area at night, tend to keep down crime and vandalism within its limits.
Thus, at a time when Fort Collins is trying to rejuvenate its core area, it is
working against itself by initiating a project that will drive dwellers from
one of the key areas to its development. As it subjects such persons to noise
and exhaust pollution of one-way streets, it will also disrupt the neighborhood
due to the increased speed of cars which tend to keep people from crossing a
street.
We believe that while Fort Collins is growing, it has not reached the point
that the older, quieter neighborhoods, such as ours, have to be ruined, and their
residents harassed for the sake of commuters from the suburbs. We also have no-
ticed that other cities which have experimentedwith one-way streets through older
neighborhoods have begun to return them to their former two-way status. Shouldn't
Fort Collins take its time and look for more workable alternatives?
Sincerely,
East Magnolia
ins, Colorado
80524
February 23, 1986
City of Fort Collins
Community Development Department
Planning Division
300 La Porte Avenue
P. O. Box 580
Fort Collins, CO 80522
Re: Traffic proposal on Mulberry and Magnolia Streets
Dear Zoning and Planning Board and City Council Members:
Several neighbors living on Mulberry and Magnolia met to discusg the recent
proposal from the City Transportation Services and we are responding to your
meeting of February 5,.1986 at Centennial School. Here are some questions that
neighbors asked at this meeting:
1. Where are the 20,000 cars on Mulberry and College. going? Are they going
downtown or thru tows?
2. Is there additional parking planned for the downtown area to accomodate
this extra traffic?
3. Is there any incentives for employers and employees to ride the Transport
System?
4. Will there be consideration for additional parking near the by-pass to
encourage downtown commuters to park and ride the Transport System?
5.Will the city pay for removing trees, shrubs, rerouting utilities, chnnging
sprinkler systems, replacing aldewnlkn, and any othor expenses incurred to
homeowners? Will the city replace the trees still shrubs that me removed
to protect residence from pollullon from the ndditinnal traffic?
6. Will all the driveways be unusnble by the traffic proposal on Mulberry
and Magnolia? If the driveways are closed then will the city compensate
the property owners?
7. What will happen to the alleys that are now over used? Whitt will be the
maintenance for the alleys?
8. What Is the city's protection for Iligtorical. and Preservation of older
homes In Ibo Idurrel School Ill:nnrhal Illntrhi?
9. What about the additional response time for medics, fire department and
police department to manuever such a one-way proposal? Then would this
effect Firestation #1 on Mulberry Street?
if) Wonid the clIy be Inl'.ranted lu 1"w'11a1, Ing all the nl one Mu lb a. r ry
and MagnaI is un the pr uposed rralf I pia u?
ll. Whitt arrangements wil. 1. be conaldvred for the walk log elderly popular lon
to cross these one-way streets?
12. Does the city really feel that they would be solving the problems by having
short distances on the proposed one -ways streets with no ulrn offs and
faster -speeds?
13. sow many accidents per month are occuring on the present one-way streets
In the downtown area?
We personally feel that the expenses Incurred by either options would not benefit
the flow of traffic, historical area, property owners, and the business area, ao
we feel your boards would consider alternative routes.
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We feel that the city and the traffic departments should look at the following
alternatives:
1. One -ways are normally across town for longer distances to be effective.
2. Consult with other cities thatarc now changing one-ways systems back
to two -ways streets. -
3. The city should consider parking lots along the by-poss system with
.public transportation to the downtown area.
4. Instead of considering more parks near schools we feel the city should be
purchasing right-of-ways for the by-pass. if the City could get money from
the state for a by-pass to AOItauser Bush Plant: why can't the elty get supnort
money from the state for more Important by -pasts.
5. The city should consider light rail Lrafl'Ic through the city for nil of the
new areas being developed both north :md south and for file commuters to and
from the Denver arts.
6. The traffic off of T-25 that normally gees east and west on Mulberry to the
college and to the stadium could create a dangerous situation if Mulberry
Street was a one-way street for such it short disc.lace, no the elty should
consider alternate routes.
7. If only a small percentage of traffic on College and Mulberry actually goes
to the downtown area the City should promote the monies toward extending
Timberline Drive further than Harmony to Mulberry Street for more eff[clanL
north -south travel.
8. What about the additional response time for mvdfcc;, fire department and
Police department to mnnuever nuCh a nuo-woy Propnr.a l? Then would t1,1
effect Pirestation 41 on Mulberry SLrett?
9. What is the estimated cost of Iht one -ways including the purchase of
private property? Is the city expecting any aid for the project?
Concerned citizens and property owners:
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H. L. Somsel----------
312 and 319 Magnolia Street
Violet I. Poor
324 Cast Mulberry Street
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George and Miriam Reach
320 East Mulberry Street
Mrs. JaryB C. Goodwin
314 East Mulberry Street
416 Jefferson Street
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Mulberry Street
[irony L. Parker
408 lust Mulberry Street
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Carolyn b'. coodwin
311, Fast Mulberry Street /
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