HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning And Zoning Board - Minutes - 05/28/1988PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTES
MARCH 28, 1988
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at
approximately 6:34 P.M., in the Council Chambers, 300 LaPorte Avenue, Fort
Collins, Colorado.
Board members present included: Chairwoman Laurie O'Dell, Don Crews, San-
ford Kern, Bernie Strom, Sharon Brown and Jim Klataske. Member David
Edwards was absent.
Staff members present included: Tom Peterson, Joe Frank, Ted Shepard, Deb-
bie deBesche, Ken Waido, Mike Herzig, Jim Faulhaber, Rick Ensdorff, and
Kayla Ballard.
Legal representative was Steve Roy.
Planning Director Tom Peterson reviewed the Consent and Discussion Agenda.
The Consent Agenda included: Item 2 - Spring Creek Professional Park,
Bidgs. B, G, H, K, b L, Final, #143-80I; Item 3 - Spring Creek Professional
Park, Amended Preliminary and Final, /143-80J; Item 4 -Centre for Advanced
Technology PUD, Fourth Filing, Final, 053-850; Item 5 - Centre for Advanced
Technology PUD 8th Filing, CommerCentre, Preliminary and Final, 153-85K;
Item 6 - Centre for Advanced Technology PUD, Parcel U, Preliminary,
A53-85M; Item 7 - Centre for Advanced Technology PUD, 6th Filing, Final,
#53-85N; Item 8 - AutoAvenue Mall PUD, Preliminary, /32-84B; Item 9-Poudre
Plains Subdivision, Final, /72-87A; Item 10 - First Replat of Fairbrooke
Subdivision, Third Filing, Preliminary and Final, i65-82Q; Item 11 -1209
North College PUD, One Year Extension Request, #14-84; Item 12 - Elementary
School 1990, Special Review, Al2-88; Item 13 - Resolution PZ 88-1, Vacation
of Easements in Foothills Park Subdivision, /78-76; Item 14 -Resolution PZ
88-2, Vacation of Easements in Warren Farms 1st Filing, i53-84E; Item 15
-Union Pacific South Third No. 1, Annexation and Zoning, a15-88,A; Item 16
-Union Pacific South Third No. 2, Annexation and Zoning, /16-88,A; Item 17
-Union Pacific South First, Annexation and Zoning, /18-88,A; Item 18 -Union
Pacific South Second, Annexation and Zoning, /19-88,A; Item 19 -Union
Pacific Fourth, Annexation and Zoning, #20-88,A; Item 20 - Downtown Dis-
trict, #11-88; Item 21 - North Lemay Plaza PUD, Final, A57-87A; Item 22
-Centre for Advanced Technology, Parcel J (Lifecare), Master Plan, 153-85P;
Item 23 - Centre for Advanced Technology PUD, Parcel J, Phase 1, (Lifecare
Center), Preliminary, /53-85L; and Item 24 -Ricketts Subdivision, Prelimi-
nary, 19-88.
Mr. Peterson informed the Board that Item 1, Minutes of the February 22,
1988 meeting have been removed from the agenda and will be continued to the
April 25, 1988 regular meeting.
Chairwoman O'Dell asked if there was any member of Staff, the Board or the
audience that would like to request an item be pulled from the Consent
Agenda.
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Mr. Leonard Ewy, 4413 Timberline, requested that Items 15 and 16 be pulled
for discussion.
Mr. Freeman Smith, Prospect/Shields Neighborhood Association, requested
that Items 4, 5, 6 and 7 be pulled. He stated that he would like an over-
view of these particular sites.
Member Brown stated that she had a potential conflict with Items 6, 7, 11,
and 14. Member Brown moved for approval of Items 2, 3, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13,
17, 18, and 19. Member Strom seconded the motion. Motion for approval car-
ried 6-0.
Member Strom moved to approve Items 11 and 14. Member Kern seconded the
motion. Motion to approve carried 5-0.
Item
4 -
153-850 -
CENTRE
FOR
ADVANCED
TECHNOLOGY
PUD,
FOURTH FILING -
FINAL
Item
5
- A53-85K
- CENTRE
FOR
ADVANCED
TECHNOLOGY
PUD
8TH FILING, CORNER -
CENTRE
- PRELIMINARY AND FINAL
Item
6
- i53-85M -
CENTRE
FOR
ADVANCED
TECHNOLOGY
PUD,
PARCEL J - PRELIMI-
NARY
Item
7
- f53-85N
- CENTRE
FOR
ADVANCED
TECHNOLOGY
PUD,
6TH FILING - FINAL
Member Brown stated that she would abstain from discussion and voting of
Items 6 and 7 due to a potential conflict.
Members Crews and Kern stated that they would abstain from discussion and
voting of Item 4 due to a potential conflict.
Freeman Smith stated that he had no specific objection, he only requested
an overview. He stated that it would be a benefit to see it in overview
since it was coming in at different times by either CSURF or Everitt.
Ted Shepard, Project Planner, described each of the proposed items and
showed where they were located using the Master Plan slide.
Mr. Smith asked how the entrance and parking was reconciled between Parcel
U and X.
Mr. Shepard stated that there will be a common entrance off Research Boule-
vard. This will be a public access that will be a dedicated right-of-way
that will serve both sites. Within the site itself, there will be a vehicu-
lar connection between the two parking lots.
Mr. Smith asked if there is to be a walkway between Parcel T and U.
Mr. Shepard stated that the preliminary plan shows a connection on the
south half of parcels T and U.
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• Mr. Smith asked about businesses that will occupy Parcel T having hazardous
waste. He was assured that the owner would not rent to anyone having
hazardous waste by City Council. In a market-driven/client relationship, it
may be that part of those businesses may involve hazardous waste and, if
so, would there be separate plumbing and sewer facilities for these busi-
nesses.
Mr. Shepard stated that before a building permit can be finaled and a cer-
tificate of occupancy can be issued, any hazardous material would have to
be approved either by the Fire Authority or the industrial pre-treatment
department of Water and Sewer, if any hazardous waste is to be put into the
sanitary sewer system.
Member Brown moved for approval of Items 5. Member Strom seconded. Motion
was approved 6-0.
Member Brown moved for approval of Item 4. Member Strom seconded. Motion
was approved 4-0.
Member Kern moved for approval of Items 6 and 7. Member Crews seconded.
Motion was approved 5-0.
Item 15 - /15-88,A - UNION PACIFIC SOUTH THIRD NO. 1 ANNEXATION AND ZONING
Item 16 - #16-88,A - UNION PACIFIC SOUTH THIRD NO. 2 ANNEXATION AND ZONING
• Ken Waido stated that these two items deal with the same property. He gave
a description of these two items and stated that staff is recommending
approval of both annexation and zoning requests.
Robert Kopitzke, 1917 Harmony Drive, asked if the decision had already been
made to annex this area or is this a formality.
Chairwoman O'Dell replied that this is a recommendation to City Council to
annex this property.
Mr. Waido stated that the City follows the annexation policies in the
Intergovernmental Agreement with the County. These policies indicate that
the City will annex any and all properties either when they petition for
annexation as a voluntary petition or become eligible for annexation as an
enclave. This particular petition is a voluntary petition by the Union
Pacific Railroad. This meeting is a required public hearing in order to
annex a piece of property.
Mr. Kopitzke stated that he felt the City has been less than forthright in
informing people affected by this change. He questioned the T-Transition
zoning and stated that after talking with Mr. Waido, understood that the
City initiated this annexation for the purpose of straightening out some
boundaries and getting in the tax base.
Mr. Waido replied that there are five annexations at this meeting and not
• all of them are to be zoned the same. He further explained why these par-
ticular zonings were requested.
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Mr. Kopitzke stated he felt that certain issues were not answered, such as
pollution and noise level, and asked who will enforce these concerns.
Chairwoman O'Dell reminded Mr. Kopitzke that the Board will only be making
recommendations to City Council on annexation and zoning issues. It is not
within the power of this Board to close down existing companies if they are
violating air quality standards.
Mr. Kopitzke stated that he has telephoned several times on these concerns
but nothing has been done about it.
Mr. Waido stated that the I-L zone is a limited industrial zoning district
and it allows light industrial uses.
Member Kern stated that he felt Mr. Kopitzke does not want the Board to get
rid of the existing problem but questioned the I-L zoning if it will pre-
sent a further problem for him and is the existing activity undergoing I-L
types of activities.
Mr. Waido stated that the present use of the property is a warehouse but
that is not the property that is polluting. There are three options for
handling the pollution problems but apparently only two were completed. If
no response was given from the other two departments, then the third option
would be to contact the City Manager.
Member Brown asked if it would be worthwhile for the Board to place a PUD
condition on these annexations.
Mr. Waido replied no because the PUD condition is only a site planning
process and there is already a site planning provision in the I-L zone.
Member Klataske asked if the property of the existing company is currently
in the city.
Mr. Waido stated that it is inside the city and zone I-P.
Leonard Ewy, 4413 Timberline, stated that the entire proposed area is not
currently zoned for industrial. The only part that is zoned for industrial
is the existing warehouse and this goes only about 20 feet behind the
existing warehouse. He stated that this will be a definite change in land
use and will increase train and truck traffic. He stated that he inquired
about the proposed landscaping and was told that, so far, there was none
proposed. He felt that the neighborhood would become more powerless and
property values would decline. He felt this would degrade the neighborhood
if these concerns were not addressed and that this proposal is not compa-
tible with the neighborhood.
Virgil Kline, surrounding resident, stated that he had no problem with the
annexation but the concern is what is proposed before it is annexed. He
suggested that prior to annexation, plans should be submitted and the
neighborhood advised and notified before it is done. He stated he did have
a concern with the noise pollution.
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Chairwoman O'Dell asked if the existing warehouse has submitted plans for
expansion of their building.
Mr. Waido replied that they have not, at this time.
Chairwoman O'Dell stated that it is understood that this will happen in the.
future. She asked if it would possible to allow the affected property own-
ers to have some input into the site plan.
Mr. Waido stated that, under the I-L zone, the Planning Director has the
responsibility and authority to approve the site plan.
Mr. Peterson suggested that there be an administrative public hearing so
the neighborhood can address their concerns. He stated that this hearing
would be very similar to the P&Z meeting, which would include neighborhood
notification, and would be held with staff.
Mr. Kline agreed to the public hearing suggestion. He stated that he would
like input prior to the expansion happening.
Chairwoman O'Dell stated that the affected property owners, within 500 feet
of the proposed use, would be notified prior to the expansion of the build-
ing.
Mr. Smith stated he felt that it is not encumbent on the City to grant a
zoning at the applicant's request. He felt that applicants should be
required to go through the LOGS.
Mr. Waido stated that there is not always the option to go through the
LOGS.
Member Kern asked what the difference is if this comes in for any plans as
a PUD or under the I-L.
Mr. Waido stated that the most substantial differences would be in the
timing of the review of the request and who makes the final decision.
Depending upon the concerns and what staff felt was applicable to be placer)
as a condition of approval through the staff review process in the I-L or
through the PUD, there would be no difference. The I-L site plan is
approved by staff and the PUD is approved by the Board.
Member Strom asked what the difference is between I-P and I-L zones.
Mr. Waido replied that the only difference between the two is what the
districts are designed for. The I-P zone is like an industrial park setting
and the I-L is a more case -by -case basis. They both have the same perfor-
mance standards. There is no requirement for a public hearing under the
I-P zone.
Member Strom asked if there was any way, under an I-L zone, to establish a
requirement for an administrative hearing.
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Mr. Peterson stated that there is no absolute requirement for a public
hearing for an I-L and I-P site plan. Based upon the Vested Rights legisla-
tion, a vested rights hearing is required which, by its nature, a public
action. He stated that even though the ordinance does not spell it out,
there is a public meeting required. He felt that it would be appropriate to
have a meeting with the neighborhood.
Mr. Smith stated that he felt these items warrant a complete use of the
LDGS. He felt that approval of the zoning by request of the applicant is
inappropriate. He suggested that the Board make a PUD requirement on these
items.
Mr. Ewy concurred with Mr. Smith. He stated that the Board does not have
enough authority and there should be some guarantee that a hearing will be
held.
Member Kern moved to approve Item 15, amended to: 1) change the I-L, Lim-
ited Industrial to have a PUD condition; and 2) that a further recommend-
ation that a neighborhood meeting be held prior to any consideration before
the Planning and Zoning Board. Member Strom seconded. Motion to approve
with conditions carried 6-0.
Member Kern moved to approve Item 16, amended to: 1) change the I-L, Lim-
ited Industrial to have a PUD condition; and 2) that a further recommend-
ation that a neighborhood meeting be held prior to any consideration before
the Planning and Zoning Board. Member Brown seconded. Motion to approve
with conditions carried 6-0.
ITEM 20 - 111-88 - DOWNTOWN DISTRICT
Mr. Peterson gave a description of the downtown zoning request. He stated
that staff's recommendation, after reviewing the Downtown Development
Authority's concerns on the adoption of the amendment, is to table this
amendment at this time. Components of the Downtown Plan will be presented
before the Board at a worksession in May. A set of recommendations of ordi-
nance changes will probably be available in Fall of '88.
Member Crews asked why the Board is being asked to table this for six or
seven months and why it wasn't withdrawn.
Mr. Peterson replied that it is the Board's prerogative to decide whether
they want to withdraw or table this item. However, at Friday's worksession,
the Board did decide to table this item.
Craig Howe, representing himself and some partnership interest in the down-
town area, stated that he supported either tabling or withdrawing it. He
added that from an ownership standpoint, he felt that it was arbitrary and
not in the best interest of the downtown area to require a PUD on uses -by -
right of certain size when it is not required in other areas. If that
approach is going to be adopted, then it should be done on an overall
basis. He stated he does not support the recommendation as it exists.
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• Member Strom asked how much of the city is covered by PUD regulations.
Mr. Peterson replied that probably well over 1/2 of the city is covered by
PUD regulations.
Member Strom stated that if a PUD ordinance is attached to the downtown
area, it would not be unique to target a limited area of the city - there
is already a large area that is covered by PUD regulations. He stated that
he did not understand the concern about placing a PUD condition on the
downtown area.
Mr. Howe stated that the whole thing is use -by -right. He added that an
example would be the purchase of the Markley Motors building on College,
which is zoned C-Commercial. This requirement would change the zoning of
that property. As an example, this building could be demolished and build a
two-story building that had uses that were allowable in the C-Commercial
zone and would have to meet the parking lot requirements because of the
change of use. The uses are by -right, zero lot line building construction
is by -right, and there is never rights within that zoning. He stated that
when a PUD is required, you have to meet all the PUD requirements which
include change of setbacks and privy of use. A financial burden is added. A
major change is what you are allowed to do with a property. He asked that
when this comes before the Board, will the property owners be notified
again?
. Mr. Peterson replied that notification will be sent out when it comes
before the Board.
Member Strom asked if there will be a difference in the amount of fees
to develop in a use -by -right as opposed to a PUD.
Mr. Peterson stated that he does not believe there will be any difference.
Member Strom asked what is the opposition of the proposal by the Downtown
Development Authority.
Chip Steiner, Director of the Downtown Development Authority, stated that
they are not opposed to it but are looking for a way to encourage develop-
ment downtown and would like to find a way to ease the process as opposed
to laying on additional rules and regulations. The PUD process may not add
expense in terms of fees but adds expense in terms of time devoted to get-
ting a development through the process. The DDA is looking to find some-
thing that directs larger development proposals into the core area. The
overlay of a 40,000 square foot requirement is arbitrary because that
requirement does not exists anywhere else in the city. Therefore, it would
be imposed on one particular neighborhood. This would not encourage devel-
opment downtown. The DDA would be willing to bring any proposal that it was
involved with, that was over 40,000 square feet, to the P&Z Board as a PUD.
The issue is complex and large enough that it requires more study than a
one paragraph insertion into the zoning code.
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Mr. Peterson stated that the Downtown Plan is an appropriate place for this
study and is ongoing at this time.
Member Crews moved to indefinitely table the request to amend the zoning to
require a PUD review for significant development projects in the downtown
area. Member Kern seconded the motion.
Member Strom stated that he would support the motion and would push very
hard to see that things go along quickly in terms of studies related to the
downtown area.
Member Crews and Chairwoman O'Dell stated that they concurred with Member
Strom.
Motion to table this item carried 6-0.
ITEM 21 - f57-87A - NORTH LEMAY PLAZA PUD - FINAL
Ted Shepard gave a description and the history of the proposed project.
Ric Hattman, Gefroh-Hattman, introduced William Giesenhagen of PDQ, and
stated that conditions placed upon this project have been meta
There was no public input on this project.
Member Brown moved to approve the North Lemay Plaza PUD Final because it
met the conditions placed upon it at the preliminary and by City Council.
Member Strom seconded the motion. Motion for approval was carried 6-0.
ITEM 22 - #53-85P - CENTRE FOR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY, PARCEL J (LIFECARE) -
MASTER PLAN
Member Crews and Member Kern abstained from discussion and voting on Item
22 and Item 23.
Ted Shepard gave a description of the proposed project.
Frank Vaught, Vaught/Frye Architects, stated that Bob Hutchinson, CSURF,
and himself were available for any questions.
Lucy Bourdon, 1945 Wallenberg, asked what would be the overall density of
the proposed project.
Mr. Vaught replied that the Master Plan had a 16 dwelling units per acre
approved which would be about 500 total units within the 31 acres. Phase 1
has a 240-bed nursing home facility, Phase 2 is projected as a 149 unit
retirement village, and Phase 3 is unknown as to its exact use but that
would leave approximately 111 units that could be built on Phase 3.
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• Ms. Bourdon stated that one of her concerns was the density of the project.''
She asked how many stories these buildings would be in Phase 2 and Phase 3.
Mr. Vaught stated that they vary in height. Phase I would be a one-story,
Phase 2 would be a 2-1/2 to 3 story building, which is not being considered
at this meeting, and Phase 3 buildingds are anticipated to be a single
story.
Ms. Bourdon stated that part of their concern is the height of the build-
ings shadowing the Hill Pond area. She added that another concern is lands-
caping of the area.
Mr. Shepard stated that the next item on the agenda will have a landscaping
plan.
Freeman Smith asked how many beds will be in the nursing center.
Mr. Vaught replied that the first phase will be for a 120 bed facility that
can be expanded to a 240 bed facility. This will be illustrated in the
following item.
Chairwoman O'Dell asked about the access between the nursing home and the
senior service center.
Mr. Shepard stated they would present this on the next item.
Member Strom asked about automobile access along Parcel J and if this would
present a problem with fire access.
Mr. Vaught replied that the main entrance would be east of the Rolland
Moore entrance and a secondary entrance off of Centre Avenue that would
allow 2 points of access for fire equipment. It is more desirable to have
private streets in this controlled accessway.
Member Brown asked if all the buildings will be sprinkled.
Mr. Vaught stated not necessarily. This is not a given from a code stand-
point. He added that there is a good possibility that this will happen in
Phase 2.
Chairwoman O'Dell asked if the road directly across from the Rolland Moore
Park access will be signaled.
Mr. Shepard replied that they do not anticipate a signal in the first phase
but possibly within 2 years.
Rick Ensdorff, City Traffic Engineer, stated the traffic signal is planned
but not with the first phase, but will be installed when needed. Improve-
ments to Shields are almost complete and should be complete within 6 weeks
to 2 months. He added that Shields Street will be restriped from Prospect
to Drake and to arterial standards. He stated the speed limit will be 35
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Member Klataske asked what provisions are being made for pedestrian traffic"
across Shields Street.
Mr. Ensdorff replied that the traffic signal will provide for pedestrian
traffic. The speed of development will determine when the signal will be
installed.
Member Klataske asked if there would be enough time for pedestrians to
cross the street, given the age of some of the residents.
Mr. Ensdorff stated that the signal time can be decreased to allow for
this.
Member Strom moved to approve Centre for Advanced Technology, Parcel J,
Master Plan. Member Klataske seconded. Motion for approval was carried 4-0.
ITEM 23 - 153-85L - CENTRE FOR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY PUD, PARCEL J PHASE 1,
(LIFECARE CENTER), PRELIMINARY
Ted Shepard gave a description of the proposed project adding five condi-
tions that staff placed on the project which consists of: 1) design and
construction of pedestrian path between the two ditches shall be addressed
at final PUD; 2) the final PUD shall include an amended traffic impact
analysis which addresses the impact of Shire Court and the Shields Street
intersection, in particular, to keeping that intersection open as opposed
to closing it; 3) the final PUD shall address all the issues related to a
private street intersection with a public arterial and the implications of
maintenance and repair of the various traffic signal devices that will be
on private property; 4) for reasons of site design and flexibility, traffic
loads, and future maintenance, the applicant is encouraged to consider the
public dedication of internal access drive; and 5) the applicant is
reminded that city participation in the Senior Service Center is subject to
the review of the Choices 95 committee and action by the City Council and
not to be assumed at this point in time.
Mr. Vaught gave a brief "tour" of the project by showing the slides. He
briefly discussed the parking. He stated the parking ratio is 1 space for
every 2 beds. This includes parking for employees and visitors. He added
that there would be approximately 125 employees between 2 phases, of which
will be in shifts.
Member Brown asked how many employees will there be during shift change and
will this produce a double demand, which won't last long but can be
intense.
Mr. Vaught replied that he will do some research and have an answer at time
of final. He added that, in regard to the five conditions that have been
placed on the project, he has no problem with conditions 1, 2, 3, or 4 but
would object to condition 5. He found this unacceptable to have the private
street go through as a public street. It would defeat the entire concept of
the development.
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• Mr. Ensdnrff stated that the condition is there to raise the question to
make sure that the applicant think through the implications of going to
this type of design in which the city does not have the option of a public
street. The eastern section is the only place where he has limitations. If
an elderly facility is not built and if more intense, there might be some
Inherent restrictions on what can be developed there at a greater density
because of the limitation of access.
Member Klataske asked if there would be any problem with Care -A -Van and
Transfort using the private roadway.
Mr. Ensdorff replied that Care -A -Van would have no problem. Transfort would
not travel the whole distance of the site. They could work with the devel-
oper to come up with access points on the site.
Member Strom asked about the kind of use of the senior center - would it be
strictly for on -site people or would it be for people from the outside.
Mr. Vaught stated that it is undetermined at this point. He stated that it
is a joint venture between the developer and the city and is in discussion
stage at this time. It would have to go to a public vote. It would not be
part of the final plan that will come before the Board in future months. It
is illustrated as part of the preliminary plan and has the potential for
public use.
Chairwoman O'Dell asked at what time will the trail system and landscaping
along the ditches be completed.
Mr. Vaught replied that this has not been specifically addressed at this
point. This will be finalized along with the next step of the plan.
Chairwoman O'Dell asked if the ditches are part of this tract or are they
part of a separate piece.
Mr. Vaught stated that they are part of a separate tract however, they are
part of the master plan. Certain commitments have been made in the master
plan with regards to the trail system.
Chairwoman O'Dell asked who would be responsible for the maintenance of the
landscaping along the ditches.
Mr. Shepard stated that this area is intended to be very natural. There
will be no manicured bluegrass look but will have low maintenance to
attract wildlife and maintain a natural appearance. The bike trail and the
linkage across the ditch will be the responsibility of the developer.
Mr. Vaught stated that they intend that trail to function for pedestrians
and not for bicycles. He added that they are anticipating a six foot wide
trail but could go as narrow as 5 feet.
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Mr. Vaught replied that what can be expected is that all the landscaping
along the private drive will be completely landscaped, entry features on
both sides of the street will be landscaped, and perhaps street trees along
the south side of that drive. The streetscape along Shields is already
going in. He added that there will be a 90 foot setback reduction once the
second phase building is complete.
David Stephenson, 1907-A Waters Edge, stated that he had concerns about the
height; the drainage as phases are completed; the Shields acceler-
ation/deceleration lane, of which they are blocked in; signals at both
exits; and if an acceleration lane will be installed after the bridges are
installed. He stated that another concern was the multi -phase 3.
Mr. Ensdorff stated that there would be no acceleration/deceleration lane
but there would be bike lanes and two lanes each direction and a center
left turn lane. He stated that Hill Pond and Shields Street would not, at this time, warrant a traffic signal. The signal will, however, be consid-
ered later. Centre Street will have an access in the future.
Member Klataske asked if, at the Hill Pond/Shields intersection, the light
would be triggered at the Rolland Moore Park access.
Mr. Ensdorff replied that no, it would not serve the purpose of both com-
bining the moving traffic on Shields Street. The Hill Pond intersection
will be monitored but it would create a negative impact if a signal was to
be installed. Hill Pond and Shields will be a full access with no other
restrictions on it.
Mr. Vaught responded to Mr. Stephenson's concerns regarding the height of
the buildings. He stated that a shadow analysis was done and there will be
no spillover shadow onto the Sundering Townhomes to the north.
Member Brown asked if the neighborhood to the north can be involved in
some of the preliminary planning for Phase 2.
Mr. Vaught stated they have had several neighborhood meetings and they
would continue to involve the neighborhood to the north. Due to the high
level of involvement, every proposal that goes into C.A.T. will have a
neighborhood meeting.
Mr. Vaught continued with his response in regards to multi -family in Phase
3 by stating that the master plan identifies density and land use. The
preliminary plan will have to be consistent with the master plan or the
master plan will have to be revised.
Mr. Shepard responded to the drainage question by stating that the prelimi-
nary drainage report indicates that the drainage will be going north and
northeast off the property into the vacant parcel to the north. There will
be a final drainage report that will tie all concerns in greater detail at
the time of final. When the property to the north develops, the drainage
will then be taken further east directly through the site and then north.
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Mike Herzig, Development Coordinator for the City, stated that the drainage
is being reviewed. It is complicated because there are some existing condi-
tions that need to be dealt with. Essentially when it comes to the future,
they do not have to detain flow normally because they are so close to
Spring Creek it can outlet directly.
Chairwoman O'Dell asked for more clarification on the drainage plan.
Stan Myers, RBD, explained the proposed drainage of the first phase. He
stated that there may be some on -site detention in the second phase area
while the first phase is being completed. Because of the proximity to
Spring Creek, the detention area for all of Parcel J will probably occur in -
other phases of the Bay Farm area.
Mr. Smith had a concern about the parking in the nursery care area and the
landscaping along the ditch.
Mr. Vaught replied that 120 spaces are being provided for the 240 bed
facility. The developer does not wish to create a problem for himself or
the surrounding neighborhood. There is additional parking which will be
added as part of the second phase. He stated that the ditch is more of a
functional nature and there are legal implications that are involved.
Landscaping along the ditch is something they have not been able to incor-
porate because they have not been able to get equipment for cleaning the
ditches. The pedestrian crossing over the ditch is difficult. However, the
area between the two ditches can be maintained to a higher level.
• Member Brown moved to approve Centre for Advanced Technology PUD Parcel J
Lifecare Center, Preliminary with the conditions recommended by staff, 1
thru 5, including No. 4, that the developer consider the ramifications of
maintaining private access drive on the site. Member Strom seconded the
motion. Motion for approval passed 4-0.
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ITEM 24 - /9-88 - RICKETTS SUBDIVISION - PRELIMINARY
Debbie deBesche gave a description of the proposed subdivision.
Dick Rutherford, Stewart and Associates, described the property. He stated
that when that area was platted, there were 50 foot public streets but only
49 feet was dedicated, leaving only a one foot strip along the western
boundary that the Housing Authority would still control. He has met with
the Housing Authority to have them either quite claim to the city or dedi-
cate this one foot strip so there would be public access into the property.
It is necessary to have access into one of those streets. The conditions
that have been noted are agreed upon and addressed.
Chairwoman O'Dell asked for clarification on the statement made by David
Herrera of the Housing Authority regarding the one point of access on the
property to the west.
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Mr. Rutherford stated that the way the street is built now, the curb and
gutter goes around the corner. Mr. Herrera thought that if it continued
that way and eliminated another street and have another lot, then all of
the traffic out of the cul-de-sac would exit easier.
Mr. Peterson stated that two of the neighbors from this area had to leave
the meeting early and asked him if he would address two questions to the
developer for them. These questions are: 1) what is the applicant proposing
for the easternmost boundary of the property, will this be a fence, if so,
what type of fence; and 2) what types of homes are proposed.
Mr. Rutherford replied that the decision for fencing has not been made yet.
In reference to the second question, all the homes will be single family
homes comparable to the existing houses.
Chairwoman O'Dell asked if the owner of Lot 4 wants the drive from Thomas
Court to Mulberry Street. Is this why the variance is needed?
Mr. Rutherford responded that there is an existing driveway that the city
provided when the Mulberry S.I.D. was placed. The owner of Lot 4 would like
to have a circle drive using the existing curb cut on Mulberry.
Member Brown asked what the distance is between the existing curbcut for
Lot 4 and the proposed Thomas Court corner.
Mr. Rutherford stated that it is approximately 165 feet.
Chairwoman O'Dell asked what the Board needs to do about the 1 foot strip
of land before final.
Ms. deBesche stated that this is not resolved as far as staff and transpor-
tation is concerned. This needs to be discussed with the Housing Author-
ity. Staff would like to keep the condition on the recommendation, which
allows leeway for solutions.
Member Crews asked if the Housing Authority has any rights that a property
owner would not have.
Ms. deBesche responded that there was none that she was aware of.
Ms. deBesche stated that staff is recommending approval with the following
conditions: 1) that prior to final approval, the applicant shall provide
evidence of approval to use the 1 foot strip of property, which is located
between this project and the property to the west; 2) that prior to final
approval, the applicant shall resolve the issue of street addressing along
Impala Circle; and 3) that prior to final approval, the applicant shall
provide a non -vehicular access easement along the south property lines of
Lots 1 and 3 to guarantee no direct access from these lots to Mulberry
Street.
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• Member Crews moved to approve Ricketts Subdivision Preliminary with the
conditions recommended by Staff and urged Mr. Rutherford to strongly con-
sider, by the time of final, the fencing on the east property lines. Member
Kern seconded the motion.
Member Brown stated that two sets of fencing along the east property line
with a 12 inch strip going in between would not be appropriate.
Motion to approve with conditions was carried 6-0.
OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Peterson stated that there are two special worksessions scheduled for
April. These dates are April 20 and April 27. He added that they should
have received a memo to that affect prior to the meeting tonight.
Meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.M.
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