HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning And Zoning Board - Minutes - 04/25/1994PLANNING & ZONING BOARD
• MEETING MINUTES
April 25, 1994
Gerry Barak, Council Liaison
Ron Phillips, Staff Support Liaison
The April 25, 1994, meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was
called to order at 6:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall
West, 300 Laporte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado. Board members
present included Chair Clements, Vice -Chair Jan Cottier, Member
Fontane, James Klataske, Bernie Strom, and Lloyd Walker. Member
Winfree was absent.
Staff members present included Interim Planning Director Ron
Phillips, Greg Byrne, Deputy City Attorney Paul Eckman, Jim
Clark, Tom Shoemaker, Steve Olt, Kirsten Whetstone, and Carolyn
Warden.
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Mr. Ron Phillips, Interim Planning Director read the agenda
review items. Consent Agenda: Item 1. Minutes of the February
28 and March 7, 1994 Planning and Zoning Board meetings, Item 2.
Silver Oaks PUD, 3rd Filing - Final, #14-88L, Item 3. Columbine
Care Center East PUD - Preliminary & Final, #12-94, Item 4.
Country Club Corners PUD, 3rd Filing - Preliminary, #72-84D, Item
5. Windtrail on Spring Creek PUD, Phase 2 - Final, #66-93C, Item
6. Greenbriar Village PUD, 4th Filing - Final, #19-93G, Item 7.
Prospect II PUD Amended Final, #82-79D, Item 8. Stoneridge PUD,
3rd Filing - Final, #21-92G, Item 9. Best Western Transmission
PUD, Lot 1 - Final, #15-93A, Item 10. Bennett Elementary School
Site Plan Advisory Review, #13-94. Item 11. O'Dea Elementary
School - Site Plan Advisory Review, #14-94, Item 12. Moore
Elementary School - Site Plan Advisory Review, #15-94, Item 13.
Resolution PZ94-3 Easement Vacation, Item 14. Resolution PZ94-4
Easement Vacation, Item 15. Modifications of Conditions of Final
Approval, Item 16. Amendment to the Oak -Cottonwood Farm Overall
Development Plan, #54-87N. Recommendation to Council: Item 18.
Robert Shields Annexation and Zoning,. #19-94A and Item 19.
Strachan Farm Annexation and Zoning, #18-94.
Discussion Agenda: Item 20. Recommendation to City Council for
Certain Amendments to the Land Development Guidance System and
Chapter 29 (Zoning, Annexation and Development of Land) in regard
to the Addition of Water Conservation Standards and Guidelines
for Outdoor Landscaping and Irrigation Systems, #17-94, Item 21.
K & M Rezoning, #17-94, Item 22. Hillcrest PUD - Preliminary, #6-
93A, Item 23. Westbury PUD - Preliminary, #11-94, Item 25.
Coventry Subdivision, Filing One - Final, #80-93A, Item 26.
Fairbrook PUD - Amended Overall Development Plan, #65-82Z, Item
27. Waterglen PUD - Preliminary, #71-93A, Item 28. Referral of an
• Administrative Change, Lot 25, Paragon Point, #48-913.
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Member Strom had a minor correction for the minutes of February
28, 1994 on page 16 in the eleventh paragraph to read: 4. There
is a desire for double loading parking driveways (it now reads
"single loading").
Chair Clements had a conflict of interest on Items 3, 16 and 17
and a member of the audience requested item 4 be pulled for
discussion.
Member Klataske moved for approval Items 1 through 19 on the
Consent Agenda with the exception of Items 3, 41 16 and 17.
Member winfree seconded the motion.
Notion carried 7-0.
Member Strom moved for approval of Items 3, 16 and 17.
Member Cottier seconded the motion.
Notion carried 6-0, with Chair Clements abstaining because of
conflict of interest.
DISCUSSION AGENDA
Item
84D.
Brian Ficker - 638 Agape Way - asked if the project had
additional anchor stores other than Toddy's and proposed shopette
store? He asked if there was any plans for R-Mart or Wal-Mart
type stores locating in the northern Fort Collins area?
Steve Olt replied that at this point in time, the staff is
reviewing two uses, one, Toddy's supermarket grocery store and
the other being an Osborne Hardware store. Those are the only
two identified uses in proposal at this time. The second
question regarding the super -stores located in the south of the
community, these developers have the power to identify the sites
they want to have and the Planning Staff was not aware of any
large stores that wish to locate in Country Club Corners area.
Member Cottier moved approval of Country Club Corners PUD, 3rd
Filing, Final.
member Strom seconded the motion.
Motion carried 7-0.
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ITEM 20 RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CERTAIN AMENDMENTS
Mr. Jim Clark, from the City Water Utilities Department, gave a
presentation beginning.with a brief history. There was a
committee formed in 1991 consisting of the Water Board, City
Council and Water Utilities Staff who developed the Water
Conservation Policy. The ordinance for recommendation to the
Council is for implementation for 2 of the 12 water conservation
measures: (1) Landscaping and (2) Minimum standards for
landscape irrigation systems. The committee combined those two
measures together for the implementation process over the last
few years because of their obvious overlap and compatibility.
Mr. Clark stated that since April 1992, the implementation
process has consisted of the following. They solicited input of
relative City staff. Written and verbal input has been gathered
from local developers, builders, architects, landscape designers,
irrigation designers, contractors and anyone potentially
• affected. Two committees were convened for each of these
measures to formulate specific guidelines of the ordinance. The
proposal was presented to the Water Board, to the Natural
Resource Advisory Board and also Water Planning Committee, which
is the new committee of City Council and Water Board. All three
of the groups and City staff has recommended adoption of this
ordinance.
Mr. Clark further stated the two measures target the design and
installation of commercial landscape and irrigation systems.
Neither of these affect in any way the landscapes or sprinkler
systems of single family residents. The intent is promote
installation of (1) a landscape that requires less water and (2)
an irrigation system that is able to more efficiently apply
water. The estimated water savings will be 2 1/2 to 5 1/2
million gallons per year, and peak demand is also estimated to be
reduced from 25,000 to 50,000 gallons per day. That corresponds
to an annual savings to the City of $55,000 to $110,000. The
cost outlay is $7,500 to $12,000 per year and paid with water
utility funds. The changes to the development process will amend
various sections of Chapter 29 of the City Code and the Land
Development Guidance system.
Mr. Clark stated that landscape plans are currently required as
part of the development review process and processed through the
• City Planning Department. This proposed ordinance will
establish a parallel process and the same landscape plans being
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reviewed by the water utility against the guidelines in the new
All Development Criteria. The Water Utility Review and
Recommendation would be included as part of the staff report that
is received by the Planning and Zoning Board. As far as
irrigation landscape, the City currently has no standards about
the design or construction of landscape irrigation systems with
exception of back load prevention. This would add new guidelines
to water conservation as part of the community -wide criteria
chart. in order to minimize expenses to the property owner and
the City, irrigation plans will not be required as part of the
development review process. These plans are required to be
submitted prior to the issuance of the building permit, which is
later in the process and the Water Utility Committee will be
responsible for reviewing those irrigation designs against the
guidelines and for inspecting installation of the irrigation
systems prior to issuance of the Certificate of Occupancy. The
Ordinance applies to PUDs but there are also additional
amendments of Chapter 29 so that landscape and irrigation plans
for use -by -right, would have to meet this same criteria.
Mr. Clark said it allows for some flexibility within those
guidelines. The language is flexible allowing a case -by -case
review.
Member Walker asked why there wasn't a stronger statement of use
of alternative turf grasses in a prescriptive manner and
suggestion of xeriscape gardening as part of the ordinance?
Mr. Clark stated that plant materials were studied throughout the
process but the approach the committee took was to focus on some
of the other elements of xeriscape with good design, mulches and
efficient irrigation.
Mr. Klataske asked if the criteria applies to common areas in
residential subdivision, or greenbelt areas?
Mr. Clark replied it does apply to common areas.
Member Cottier asked why it didn't apply to single family?
Mr. Clark said (1) there was not a guideline in place in the
planning process to look at individual yards as there is for
commercial and industrial and (2) there is not support to telling
people what they can and cannot do in their own private yards.
There are other measures to get to that place with public
education rather than a mandatory action.
Member Cottier said that is something that we could look at as a
bonus category for PUDs if they would voluntarily comply (bonus
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system) with this for their single-family lots and there could be
a note on the plat to that effect if it is initiated by the
developer.
Mr. Olt said that it is a good idea but pointed out that a
mandate on a single-family residences would be restrictive and
better education can be acquired. He said it could be
incorporated into the LDGS and point charts and written into the
code in the form of bonus points similar to what has been done
for energy conservation and solar orientation. It is possible to
explore that possibility but has not been pursued in depth. If
the Board so desires, the ordinance could be revised accordingly.
Member Cottier said it was just a suggestion and was not
proposing it as an amendment but something that should be looked
at in the future.
Chair Clements asked for citizen participation, but no one
responded. Citizen participation was closed.
Member Walker continued that this is an excellent opportunity to
. make a statement to move the community toward water conserving
landscapes. He felt examples in the commercial and industrial
landscape projects would be setting an example for water
conservation with respect to plant materials, etc. He felt the
ordinance could state more specifics.
Member Fontana recommended approval of the recommendation to City
council for certain amendments to the Land Development Guidance
System and Chapter 29 (Zoning, Annezation and Development of
Land) in regard to the addition of water conservation standards
and guidelines for outdoor landscaping and irrigation systems.
Member Strom seconded the motion.
Motion carried 6-1, Member Walker voting in the negative.
Item 21, E i M Comp_any$ezoning. •17-94
Mr. Ken Waido, Chief Planner, gave the staff presentation, report
and recommendation. Staff recommended approval of the rezoning
with a PUD and condition.
Mr. Eldon Ward, Cityscape Urban Design represented the applicant;
it is taking the property out of T-Transition zone and placing it
in a developable zone. There is no master plan for the site at
this time. Under the current LDGS, the multiple zoning becomes
dosomewhat mute because the actual land uses are determined .
through the PUD process. Underlining zoning does determine
expectations for mixed use for the area.
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CITIZEN INPUT
Gil Wilson - (did not sign in) - He wanted to know where it
lined up with Adriel Hills and Mt. Vista Drive. (Planner Waido
pointed out the locations on the map). Mr. Wilson referred to
Item 27, zoned Limited Industrial, that was similar to this area.
He thought that it wasn't logical to duplicate another industrial
area close to a heavily populated residential area. He requested
a change with the type of zoning because of the similarity to
Item 27.
Myrtle Housel - resides in Adriel Hills and County resident -
She reported that the residential area was completely surrounded
by agricultural land, she wondered what industrial development
would be appropriate for this area.
James Beattie - resident of Chesapeake that joins Adriel Hills -
His concern was the configuration of the proposed mix and
location of the industrial zoning to the eastern boundary, and
the planned business across from Summitview Road and bring the
residential plan from west to east, from single-family to multi-
family. Some of the planners have conceived the possibility of
an extension of Timberline to intersect this property with
service facilities on the righthand (east) of the extension and
not impact the residential area. He affirmed the zoning of mixed
uses, but requested the above uses.
Karen Ridder - 1000 N. Cree - She had a major concern with the
industrial planning so close to the existing residential area and
stated her opposition to the plans for it.
Eric Spanier - 1807 Westover Ct. - Chesapeake Subdivision - His
concern was primarily access. He mentioned the consideration of
the railroad constraints. He suggested a four -lane artery to
relieve congestion of traffic in the area created by the area.
He was also concerned with safety.
Holly Manley - Delwood Heights Subdivision - Her major concerns
were traffic, school enrollments, and Vine Street (ability to
handle additional traffic). She was very concerned about the mix
right next to the neighborhood and did not believe an industrial
park to be consistent at all and questioned the office park. She
requested housing similar to surrounding areas. She was not
totally opposed to development and was in favor of well -thought
out, logical plans to keep the aesthetic beauty of the area and
would like to know further plans for streets.
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Chair Clements opened questions
rezoning, what it entails, when
System (LDGS) comes in, when the
considered and when they might be
applicant.
to Mr. Waido with the question of
the Land Development Guidance
neighbors input will be
able to begin working with the
Mr. Waido said the property is currently zoned T-transition and
under the City Code no development proposal is allowed to be
submitted under that zone. It is essentially a holding zone
until some ultimate zone is contemplated. Zoning in the City of
Fort Collins does not necessarily mean the same as most other
communities, particularly those with a PUD condition attached,
requiring the utilization of the LDGS. While the zoning district
sets some expectations for use of the property, those uses are
not guaranteed even though a portion of this property may be
zoned IP for industrial uses, a proposal for an industry on that
property would have to withstand the merits of criteria of the
LDGS. If it passes that criteria and is accepted by the Board,
with input, then the proposed use could approved. The same
applies to the Planned Business Park (BP) as well as the
residential zone (RLP). These would also have to come through
the LDGS process, with a public hearing and reviewed against the
criteria and eventual decision of the Planning and Zoning Board.
There are no guarantees with the types of uses or the densities
on any particular parcel. After a two months, the City is
required to take the property out of the T-transition zone and
place it into one or more zones. Any zoning district that has a
PUD condition, the underlying zoning district, and the definition
of that zoning district become mute, and the proposed land use on
the property must stand on its own merits and be reviewed again
under the LDGS.
Mr. Waido indicated that the development process occurs in three
stages:
(1) an Overall Development Plan (ODP) where the entire
property is planned as a unit and specific uses, or
anticipated uses, densities, square footages of those uses
will be placed on a plan. It takes a pubic hearing and is
subject to public review which involves the Planning and
Zoning Board. After the general nature of land uses are
established, then a preliminary plan can be submitted.
Often times a preliminary plan on a phase of the property
comes through with the Overall Development Plan.
(2) The preliminary plan is much more detailed, it
show the street layouts, the types of uses, the siz
• lots, landscaping, architectural characteristics a
part of a preliminary plan which is scrutinized at
neighborhood meetings and a public hearing in front
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Board. If the preliminary plan is approved, the final step
of the process is a final plan, requiring a public hearing.
in front of the Board. When the final decision is made, it
is in terms of the detail planning of the property.
Mr. Waido responded to a question raised by Chair Clements
regarding the requirement of zoning on T-transition parcels. He
said that the City Code makes requirement to designate zoning not
the State. The districts requested are analyzed by staff in
compliance with the City Land Use Policies. He went into detail
of the zoning and policies by staff for this particular property.
He summarized by saying it was in conformance with the
Comprehensive Plan and the overall mix land uses are the driving
policies which are being used staff to recommend approval of this
particular zoning pattern.
Chair Clements pointed out there were many comments from the
citizens regarding the industrial area, possible elimination of
the industrial area, configuration of the mix, etc., and asked
Mr. Waido to comment.
Mr. Waido addressed the question of using the IL zoning as used
in Waterglen, Item 27. There are 160 acres of IL property and no
industrial use is proposed within the development. The property
immediately to the north of the eastern half of the property is
zoned IG with a PUD condition. He discussed in further detail
differences in zoning. There are no immediate development plans
at this point in time. The proposed juxtaposition of these zones
seems logical from a planning perspective and it is only when
there is a real, live proposal would the appropriateness of the
land use at that site, be determined.
Chair Clements asked about auto traffic access, four -lane
arterials, etc., in and through the property in questions.
Mr. Waido said.Timberline Road is a major capital improvements
project approved by the voters of the city when a 1/4 cent sales
tax was approved as part of the Choices 195 Program. The
extension of Timberline is a reality in the 1995 arena if
necessary funds are available. A traffic study will be required,
road improvements would be required as developments proceeds.
Each project will be subject to off -site street ordinance, and
any provision in the Urban Growth Area agreement dealing with
roads. As developments proceeds, roads will be improved and
traffic studies will determine what off -site improvements need to
be made.
Chair Clements asked about school projections for the
development.
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Mr. Waido said school projections will also be considered as part
of the preliminary plans. The staff meets with the School
District to update the proposed residential developments and
passes that information to their school boundary committees to
deal with capacity.
Member Walker asked about the issue of existing neighborhood
developments, and other commercial developments to the east, east
of Road 9, etc.
Mr. Waido explained the IG (General Industrial) zoning that is in
place presently to the east, a portion of Anheuser-Busch, stating
that the master plan calls for multi -family and single family in
other portions of the area, a shopping center and business
services, etc. There may be a 3-5 acre convenience center with
some retail planned. The southern area is still in a T-
transition zone with a few parcels not annexed to the City.
Member Cottier asked for a response to the suggestion of moving
the BP designation to the and the IP to the east. It would seem
that this layout would minimize the impact to the residential
neighbors and the eastern border consistent with the existing IG
zoning for Anheuser-Busch.
• Mr. Waido reminded the Board and audience that all of the
proposed zoning has PUD conditions attached and through process
the land uses will be made compatible with surrounding land uses
or potential uses. He believed the IP zoning would be reasonable
near the intersection, realizing single family residential would
not likely locate there.
Mr. Ward said the IP zoning with this site was chosen over BP
because that zoning precludes residential uses. The intersection
is not desirable for residential use. He thought it would not be
a good use of land to have residential east of Summitview under
an ODP according to City policy. The Anheuser-Busch to the east
has 80-acres of the area will be a major detention pond and open
space for mitigation of the land uses. The land use decisions
will be made when the ODP stage is reached.
Member Fontana moved to accept the E and K Company Rezoning.
Member Strom seconded the motion.
Member Strom summarized that there will be several opportunities
for the citizens to participate in the planning process and
• encouraged them to watch for signage on the property, letters of
notification of neighborhood meetings. Public input will be
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considered when there are more details in planning further in the
process. It is reasonable to expect a mixed use south of County
Road 50 and will support the motion.
Member Winfree pointed out setting the zoning does not set
exactly what is to go there. Item 27 came in as limited
industrial and the present PUD is for all residential use. She
encouraged citizen participation.
Chair Clements also made statement to be involved early to be a
positive process work with.
Motion passed 7-0.
item 22 Hillcrest Pup - Preliminary #6-93
Mr. Ted Shepard, Senior Planner, read the staff report with two
conditions and recommendations for approval.
Ms. Rochelle Stephens, Executive Director Fort Collins Housing
Authority. This project is an affordable rental housing
development in keeping with the City's objective to expand rental
housing opportunities. CDBG dollars are cooperative funding for
the project, State of Colorado whole grant fund $423,200 and Fort
Collins Housing conventional bank borrowings of $870,000. The
Housing Authority Debt Service will be repaid with tenant grant
collections. She read a detailed report explaining the details
of marketing and qualifications for occupancy.
Jim Bragonier - Bragonier Architects - 1913 Seminole Drive -
architect consultant for the project. Gave a report on the
development, drainage and layout.
Member Walker asked about existing homes and access about the
streets in the area, parking, cul-de-sac, etc. which were
responded to in each area of concern by Mr. Bragonier.
Citizen input was requested by Chair Clements; there was none.
Member Strom had more questions for the parking areas with regard
to landscaping and the turn around.
Mr. Bragonier said they were under Poudre Fire Authority for
minimum distance and explained the large 35-foot front and
backyards but were not planning to landscape the cul-de-sac area.
Member Cottier asked about fencing.
Mr. Bragonier said it will be 6-foot high, but not on the north.
The total lot will be fenced. Member Cottier also asked about
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the immediate construction of a fence
construction. Mr. Bragonier there was
willing to do that for the neighbors.
on the east side at
not a commitment, but was
Member Klataske asked about the school district boundaries and
access issues.
Mr. Bragonier explained Impala Drive and PR-1 parking lot access
and no through bus traffic.
Chair Clements asked more questions about fencing and concerns
about enclaving the site.
Mr. Bragonier explained their plans for screening and protection
around the tot lot.
Member Strom moved for approval of Hilicrest PUD - Preliminary
with conditions as noted in the staff report, with an additional
condition that the eastern fence be erected as soon as possible.
Member seconded the motion.
Motion carried 6-0, with Member Winfree abstaining for conflict
of interest.
Item 23, Westbury Pup - Preliminary 111-94,
Mr. Steve Olt, Project Planner, read the staff report with two
conditions. He stated to the Board a concern expressed in a
letter about the deliverance of irrigation water.
Mr. Eldon Ward, of Cityscape Urban Design, representing Mark
Linder, the applicant, who was present. He explained that the
conditions of approval can be met with minor design changes and
explained in detail some alternatives. The drainage will be
addressed.
Chair Clements stated that Solar Orientation as a trade off and
the applicant is requesting a variance. Mr. Ward explained the
variance to the Board.
Lila Nelion - 1309 W. Harmony - She stated the location of her
property to the site, and that she liked the development, but had
an objection regarding the right-of-way to her property. She was
objecting to it and had no plans to develop the property. She
suggested to extend the cul-de-sac instead.
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Maryann May - representative of the Bridge Homeowners Association
- 4725 Regency Drive - She made statements of support for the
developer's proposal.
Mr. Olt answered the questions concerning the right-of-way
request, discussing several options which could mean a loss of a
lot to the developer.
Chair Clements asked for more input from Mrs. Nelion.
Mrs. Nelion said that they agreed with the plan, except the
right-of-way request near her property. She made her arguments
against and stated her preference would be off Maraposa if it is
absolutely necessary, and didn't necessarily agree with it.
Member Cottier discussed further with the applicant and city
staff the right-of-way issue.
Rich Ensdorff said to obtain the right-of-way at this time would
allow options in the future.
Member Fontane had some more questions about accesses.
Mr. Olt responding that the neighbors prefer to see a cul-de-sac.
If the right-of-way were never used for access, then it may
become open space in the future. He discussed various concerns
and ideas, constraints on plats, etc.
Chair Clements said it may not be read, could the process be made
more effective?
Mr. Olt said an effective mechanism has yet to be developed for
communication.
Member Montane recommended approval of the Westbury PUD -
Preliminary, #11-94 with staff conditions.
Mr. Olt asked if it were clear that one of the conditions was in
the staff report and a new one this evening with a Solar Variance
Ordinance. He read the conditions from the report and
memorandum.
Member cottier requested to amend the motion with a new one
stating "sufficient grass right -of -ray to the Neilon property."
Member Montana agreed with the change.
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Mr. Phillips said that "landscaped" rather than "grass" be used
in the motion.
Member Cottier felt that the owners of surrounding property bear
the burden of not creating future problems.
Member Strom amended the motion to include the Solar Variance,
and that it be granted; that it vas equal to or better than the
plan rather than the letter of the ordinance.
Members Bontane and Cottier indicated that vas acceptable.
Motion carried 7-0.
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Mr. Ted Shepard read the staff report with conditions, there is
an anticipation for Filing 2 and staff recommends approval. The
staff report does not include the standard condition of the
timely filing of the utility plans and development agreements,
that condition if the recommendation is approved.
. Chair Clements asked about the "centerline not be moved" issue of
Crest Road agreement as requested by the Brookwood Neighborhood
Association.
Mr. Shepard said the Planning staff is working with the County
Engineering Department.
Mr. Mike Herzig, Planning Engineer, gave a brief summary with the
developer trying to shift the centerline towards the east away
from their property for room for driveways. Mr. Rex Burns of the
County has been involved and stated it was okay to shift it.
However, the neighbors on Crest Road would like it to remain.
The most recent report is that it is shifted three feet off the
centerline right-of-way. The Board can direct the developer
through a condition. His professional opinion is that the street
should be designed center on the current right-of-way, concurring
with the Brookwood Homeowner's Association recommendation.
Mr. Dick Kellogg - J. R. Engineering - reviewed the issue of
Crest Road. Mr. Rex Burns was approached and stated that " the
east property line was fixed, so that in the future, if the road
was widened from 28 feet to the full width that the east full
lane would stay constant and it would not move in the future."
If the road is widened in the future for development, the west
side would move correspondingly. That was their reasoning.
• Jim Sell of Colorado Land Source Limited, applicant, gave the
presentation. He pointed out some concerns:
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(1) the disparity of the size of the lots along Crest Road
in relation to the county size on adjacent tracts. Some
landscape medians and private driveways would serve the
residents for landscape buffering along Crest Road. The
Brookwood Homeowner's Association endorses that idea.
(2) The Clarendon Hills Homeowners Association supports an
effort to bring about a park sooner than projected year 2000
for development. There have been meetings with citizens,
and the developer with Parks to create a park with funds
from the homeowners and developer. He described the detail
of the park with fields, courts, tot lots, etc. and a
detention facility which would eliminate some function in
the park. The Parks and Natural Resources Departments agree
this is not a feasible condition. The developer opposes this
condition.
Bruce Heath - 4920 Crest Road - President of the Brookwood
Homeowners Association - He referred to the PUD plan, he was
concerned with access streets. His concern was with the amount
of traffic to Crest Road and that the centerline be kept and
brought up to City standards. The design is very nice. He was
concerned with phasing of the development because of the
detention pond problems and flood line.
CITIZEN INPUT CLOSED,
Member Cottier asked if this was to be brought to City standards
or remain a County road?
Mr. Shepard said the compromise was that Crest Road would be a
28-foot street (not 36 feet), sidewalk on the west side only,
still determining the exact curb edge of the east side and remain
a County street with improvements.
Member Strom moved to approval of Coventry Subdivision, Filing
one, Final #80-93A with the preliminary agreement conditions.
Member Fontana seconded the motion.
Member Strom commented for the record that the intent of the
Board is for the road to align on the existing easement
centerline.
Member Fontane commented and applauded the effort to get the park
before the year 2000 and the cooperation of the developer and
neighborhoods working together. A very good example in the
community.
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Member Winfree cited that half the curbcuts were eliminated on
Crest Road and the shared looping driveway access were positive
to the development and neighbors to the east.
Motion carried 7-0.
Member Klataske stated his conflict of interest in regard to this
plan.
Ms. Whetstone, Project Planner, read the staff report including a
slide presentation.
Linda Ripley - Ripley Associates, representing Charlotte
Jorgensen and Bill Neal. She said there are storm water concerns
which need further study for location of an easement through the
site. The applicant is working with the City on this. She
explained the plans for the project with 4 d.u. per acre and that
the site was appropriate for single-family.
Bart Nelson - Vice President of the Pleasant Valley Lake Canal
Company an irrigation ditch that crosses this property, showed
the Board his concerns for drainage and the change of the
original right-of-way and easement across the property. He was
concerned about drainage problems in other developments of the
area. He stated that his ditch company would not be liable for
any damages caused by the development because the developer does
not notify the prospective buyer of potential problems. The
canal bridge at Prospect has a tremendous amount of runoff (he
understood that the Choices 195 will widen this) and needs to be
addressed.. He mentioned chemicals that could be washed to the
ditch and contaminate it as a concern. What are the subdivision
requirements above the canal with regard to storm drainage? He
read from a detailed report. He said the Federal Government's
Cold Water Act must be considered.
Ms. Ripley stated that the developer will be working with all
parties concerned with regard to this issue.
Member Pontane commended the plan especially the density and
recommended approval of the amended rairbrooke - Overall
Development Plan, #65-828.
Member Strom seconded the motion.
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Motion carried 6-0, With Member Ilataske abstaining due to
conflict of interest.
Item 27. Wateralen PUD - Preliminary. #71-93A.
Mr. Steve Olt, Project Planner,
conditions that no final plans
report and natural areas plans
departments.
read the staff report with
be submitted until a drainage
are approved by the respective
Mr. Eldon Ward - Cityscape Urban Design, represented the
applicant and gave a presentation with support staff and legal
counsel. The team present was Bill Reynolds and Libby Glass of
W. W. Reynolds; Lucia Liley, legal assistance; Armando Valpag who
prepared a noise impact study, Dr. Del Vincent assisting with
wild life habitat questions; and Roger Walker, expert for
manufactured housing.
Mr. Ward addressed the questions from the work session and staff
comments.
(1) What is going on in the big picture for Northeast Fort
Collins? Urban development is projected in the next decade,
because of a limited inventory of large parcels for master plan
development. He commented on land use possibilities and
development.
(2) Remoteness of the site is favorable for employment in the
area but there is a need for other modes of transportation. With
improvements planned for Vine Drive, one of which includes 3
miles of bike lanes. There is not enough population base to
warrant mass transit-- carpooling is under investigation.
(3) Clarification of terms for description of "conventional
housing" which is typically stick built, framed houses and
"modular," in Waterglen they are factory -built homes that are
permanently anchored to spread footings and less permanently
anchored to concrete pads. He gave examples.
(4) vine Drive improvements are being worked with City staff.
(5) All requirements for density, solar orientation, etc. have
been met.
(6) Cooper Slough was discussed with regard to water quality,
quantity and temperature, and impacts with wildlife mitigated.
Leven Associates prepared the study and found it is not a unique
warm water reserve but has seepage from the Larimer-Weld Canal,
and remains a desirable wildlife habitat. Criteria for buffering
around the slough have been studied and preserve the wetlands.
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There has been a request for a 300-foot setback,
studied. Dr. Vincent gave a recommendation for
setbacks that accomplish goals necessary for th
and it has been
e
necessary
area.
(7) The developer requested that Condition 7 of the Planning
Staff report be modified in the wording. The ,developer requested
that the condition read: "written documentation of the
description included, should be provided to and reviewed by the
City prior to submission of final PUD plans for any portion of
development and it is understood that minor changes to the layout
of the site plan may be warranted due to impacts on natural areas
in the development." If Natural Resources does not agree with
the developers findings, then it is brought back to the Board to
settle the difference.
(8) A noise impact study was conducted by Armando Valpag and it
stated that the berm needed to be taller.
(9) Streets. Off -site street improvements have been reached with
City staff with options left open with regard to Vine Drive
improvements. Street oversizing is still being discussed with
City Staff and is not part of the staff conditions. Street
. widths of 28 feet had not be proposed for all local streets, just
for some minor.loop streets. There will also be 36-foot wide
streets. He discussed parking and striping, etc. for the 28-foot
wide streets.
(10) He addressed the three conditions (a) The wetlands are
mapped and surveyed and the lots do not encroach into them. (b)
The flood plain conflict with existing houses and day care
facility. Mr. Valpag stated it did not conflict with the proposed
day care center. (c) Notes on the final plan; the wording that
should not be there will not be there.
Member Strom asked about the secondary 28-foot looped streets.
Mr. Ward located them on the slide. The street that intersects
Waterglen Drive (a collector) with Waterglen Place and the
northerly portion Ellen Park --all others have been changed to 36-
feet. Improper parking will be controlled by an on -site
management team.
Lou Stitzel - 521 E. Laurel - She stated she supported the
project and it needed to be encouraged in Fort Collins, for the
lower -income families to have support services and amenities in a
unique setting and comprehensive in nature.
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Betty Maloney - 1309 City Park Avenue - Spoke of her previous
statement in favor of this much needed project in Fort Collins..
CITIZEN INPUT CLOSED,
Member Walker asked for the rational behind the smaller size
landscaping for certain parts of the project.
Mr. Olt said the developer is requesting a variance to reduce the
size of the plans required to be able to use park rated materials
in the natural area and the Cooper Slough drainage area,
perimeter buffering and to install landscaping in common areas in
longer term phases. Staff is requesting that the standard
landscape requirements be met.
Member Walker referred to recommendation #3 referring to some
consultation to allow smaller landscape materials. This seems to
deviate from what was stated.
Mr. Olt agreed that the wording was misleading and the intent was
to say " landscaping shall be installed as per the LDGS standard
requirements." There could be a possibility that the standard
landscaping could be negotiated to smaller sizes in certain
areas. It would be a City-wide standard and not site specific.
Member Klataske asked about the impacts with regard to schools.
Mr. Olt said that Poudre R-1 is very much involved, and the
tables for the capacities will fluctuate with standards set by
the District. He stated from resource of Poudre R-1 that this is
not a problem district wide. Mr. Ward said there are dynamics of
the school population fluctuations within district lines
changing; possible school sites have been explored, but not
recommended at this time.
Member Klataske asked questions regarding the noise level in
certain portions of the site.
Mr. Ward said that those levels have been mitigated for outside
persons from the units and.are well within range because of
berming.
Member Klataske asked about setbacks of lots to open space.
Mr. Ward responded by saying the intent is to keep as much open
space under common maintenance as possible, including front yards
to give a uniform appearance.
Member Cottier asked about portable storage units?
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Mr. Ward stated that they are units not setting on permanent
foundations and they can be moved to give flexibility and there
is an electric easement in a portion of it where they are
located. Also noise considerations are in play.
Member Cottier asked for an update on the plans for the parcel to
the left that would be donated.
Mr. Ward indicated that W. W. Reynolds has donated four acres to
a non-profit agency to have low-income subsidized housing in that
area. There is a purpose to offer a full range of housing
opportunities in the development to offer upward mobility without
leaving the neighborhood. The proposed builder is studying the
costs for all the infra -structure required for the project before
a commitment is made. There is still interest. Points were not
taken for this segment. The plan reflects their specific design.
Member Cottier asked "What a reserve park was?"
Mr. Olt said that it was already considered for a site that has
been purchased by the City of Fort Collins for a future park
. site.
Mr. Ward said that properties are not always already owned by the
City of Fort Collins. This park site was approved by the Parks
Department at their December meeting.
Chair Clements asked about the wording for Condition #7?
Mr. Olt replied that staff was recommending the wording remain
the same for #6 and #7 regarding storm drainage.
Mr. Phillips stated that the staff proposal was recommending that
Storm Drainage and Natural Resources approve the plans before the
final submittal can be made. The suggestion by.the applicant is
that they be submitted and reviewed but the word "approved" is
left out.
Member Strom commented that if there is a disagreement about
approval, the applicant will always have the option of requesting
review by the Board?
Mr. Phillips stated that was correct, similar to the last item on
the agenda of this meeting.
Member Cottier asked why isn't a mitigation plan required as we
have with other projects with significant natural resources --the
• wording in the condition is not very strong?
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Mr. Phillips replied that requiring this plan needed approval
before final submittal, this process will expedite the scheduling
and it will be dealt with.
Member Strom asked about the report by Dr. Vincent, requesting a
summary.
Dr. Vincent summarized the proposal citing the irrigation
retention facilities. He said the proposed plan is comprehensive
over all the water areas of the development, enhancing the
wildlife areas of the,project, perhaps increasing water fowl
nesting. Mitigation for wildlife and people interaction are
being studied, a prototype of how development can be promoted and
use nature educationally.
Member Strom asked more questions regarding the 28-foot width
streets and fire safety concerns.
Mr. Herzig said the loop street have lots facing on both side
that are relatively small with high parking. The method the
Poudre Fire Authority uses requires a 20-foot clear space in the
street to maneuver the vehicles and equipment. They found that
28-foot street widths work in the larger lot areas, serving fewer
homes and fewer cars in the street. The technique of the
operation determines the need requirements.
Member Winfree moved for approval of Waterglen PUD, Preliminary
#71-93A with the ten conditions outlined in the staff report and
the letter from staff dated April 2SO 1994.
Member Walker seconded the motion.
Member Cottier commented that it is a very good project in a less
than ideal location and worthwhile for the community, a product
that is needed. The open space design contiguous to small cell
lots is unique for lower -income housing. The proposal of a
Gitney bus is critical to making a project like this work. She
was reluctant to support it because it is not where growth is
desired at this stage of urban design development but it is
outweighed by the nature of the product being proposed.
Chair Clement agreed and stated that the policy statements with
regard to Land Use Policy 22 states "preferential consideration
shall be given to urban development proposals which are
contiguous to existing developments within the City limits or
consistent with the phasing plans for the City's Urban Growth
Area." Without a plan, it cannot be utilized to make decisions
for development. The Council directed that proposal that might
be able to locate on the fringes will provide their own
transportation, parks and open space surrounding natural area.
She supported the motion with some reservation.
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Member Strom proposed a minor amendment to Condition #9 to say
"the development may be located in the revised Box Elder Flood
Creek Plain and the day care facility must be located outside the
flood plainU.
Member Strom further commented that the project is a very good
one and will provide some badly needed housing relief for the
middle and lower income families. He supported the preceding
comments. He still did not fully endorse the 28-foot streets and
requested more information and data from the Poudre Fire
Authority for this project and others in Fort Collins, his
concerns were especially in regard to use of extra asphalt.
Mr. Phillips assured the Board that this information will be
obtained from Poudre Fire Authority without a condition to the
motion.
Member Fontane supported the motion and was appreciative of the
information provided by the developer about the future
development. She supported the alternative transportation plans
for the location of the site.
• Member Winfree agreed with the concerns for the location of the
project and agreed that the benefits of the project outweigh the
location. She encouraged the alternative for transportation
since it is not added as a condition.
Motion passed 7-0.
Mr. Ted Shepard, Project Planner, gave the staff report and
recommendations for approval. The purpose the Board is reviewing
this was because it was a change to the PUD. Should the Board
allow the Southridge Greens Boulevard, the plat would then have
to be amended or replatted to lift the restriction. The Board is
reviewing the land use PUD document and the plat restriction.
Mr. Steve Dellenbach - owner of Lot 25 of Phase II Paragon Point
stated that the administrative change was denied, so he made the
presentation of his request for access of his home drive to the
Board. He presented the unique situation of his lot and
requiring drainage and location for safety. The street had two
addresses 6413 Falcon Ridge Court or Southridge Green Boulevard.
• Mr. Shepard said the homeowner can choose between addresses for
the property and Mr. Dellenbach stated he was requesting 6418
Southridge Green Boulevard. There was discussion of the request
among Board members regarding the correct 6418 Falcon Ridge, but
it could also have a 6418 Southrigde Green Blvd. address common
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with lots that have double frontage. There have been five lots
with restricted use of the Southridge Green Blvd. access.
Member Walker asked about the location of the driveway.
Member Strom believed it was a self-inflicted problem and asked
for response.
Mr. Dellenbach said he was restricted from having the access onto
Southridge Green Blvd. because of traffic. After observation, he
concluded this was not a problem and requested the change.
Member Strom said that it was more than that, but that it was the
original design and location of the house/garage with full
knowledge of access to Falcon Ridge Court that created the
problem of the steep drive.
Member Fontane agreed and further stated the plat was approved
with the location of the existing drive.
Chair Clements opened citizen participation, being none, closed
citizen participation. She had a question with regard to the
five lots that were not granted access to Southridge Green Blvd.?
Mr. Shepard said the street has a long length and serves an
existing neighborhood and the Paragon neighborhood and is not
designed with a collector standard. He believed it to be a 28-
foot street but serves as a collector. To minimize the traffic
loads on the street was to limited the driveway cuts onto the
street thus creating two cul-de-sacs, which are local streets.
Trilby will some day connect and Southridge will connect to
Lemay. The Planning Department was thinking in terms of traffic
volume, curb cuts and safety, given the choice, it is better from
the public standpoint to make access of homes on local streets,
not the collector. There was citizen concern about the traffic
flows from this collector within the neighborhood in early
planning stages.
Discussion continued regarding driveway access among Board
Members.
Member Bontane made a motion to deny the Referral of an
Administrative Change, Lot 25, Paragon Point, #48-91J.
Member Strom seconded the motion.
Member Cottier mentioned said this was a difficult decision and
agreed that it was a self-imposed problem. When considering that
there are 20 lots accessing Southridge Green, it seems
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insignificant that one more could be made. However, she
remembered the importance of the issue as brought out by the
neighborhood and reminded Mr. Dellenbach could appeal to council.
Meeting was adjourned 11:05 p.m.
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