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Council Liaison: Scott Mason I Staff Liaison: Bob Blanchard
Chairperson: Glen Colton Phone: (H) 225-2760 (W) 679-3201
Vice Chair: Sally Craig Phone: (H) 484-9417
The meeting was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Chairperson Colton
Roll Call: Weitkunat, Gavaldon, Craig, Colton. Members Davidson, Meyer and
Carpenter were absent.
Staff Present: Blanchard, Eckman, Deines, Wamhoff, McCallum, Schlueter,
Shepard and Olt.
Agenda Review: Director of Current Planning Blanchard reviewed the Consent and
Discussion Agenda's:
1. Minutes of the November 19, 1998 Planning and Zoning Board
Hearing.
2. Resolution PZ99-3 Easement Vacation
3. #46-98 Howell Building - Project Development Plan.
4. #57-98 Wykoff - Larimer First Annexation & Zoning.
5. #57-98A Wykoff - Larimer Second Annexation & Zoning.
6. Recommendation to City Council Regarding the Larimer
County Regional Road and Park Capital Expansion Fees.
7. #66-93G Windtrail Park P.U.D., Amended Preliminary and Final.
Director Blanchard pulled items 4 and 5 for discussion.
Item 7 was moved to the Consent Agenda.
Member Gavaldon moved to approve Consent items 1, 2, 3, and 7. Member
Weitkunat seconded the motion. The motion was approved 4-0.
Project: Wykoff - Larimer Annexation and Zoning First, #57-98
Wykoff - Larimer Annexation and Zoning Second, #57-98A
Project Description: First: Request for the voluntary annexation of 6.69 acres of
land located north of County Road 38E, west of Taft Hill
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Road. The site is currently zoned FA1, Farming in Larimer
County. The requested zoning is LMN, Low Density Mixed
Use Neighborhood. This zoning requires an amendment of
the City Structure Plan from Rural Open Lands and River
Corridor to Low Density Mixed Use Residential. .
Second: Request for voluntary annexation of 14.47 acres of
land located north of County Road 38E, west of Taft Hill
Road. The site is currently zoned FA-1 Farming in Larimer
County. The requested zoning requires an amendment of
the City Structure Plan from Rural Open Lands and River
Corridor and Urban Estates to Low Density Mixed Use
Residential.
Staff Recommendation: Recommend approval of the annexation. Recommend
denial of the Structure Plan amendment; and, Recommend
approval of the RF, Foothills Residential zoning.
Hearing Testimony Written Comments and Other Evidence
Bob Blanchard, Director of Current Planning gave the staff presentation and
recommendation on both items. Director Blanchard showed slides of the property and
surrounding areas; and, stated that the applicant has requested a Structure Plan
amendment and subsequent zoning of LMN, Low Density Mixed Use Neighborhood.
Brett Larimer, 1600 West Horsetooth Road and co -applicant of the request gave the
applicant's presentation. Mr. Larimer stated that he agrees that the property does meet
the contiguity requirements, but did not agree with the staffs recommendation for
zoning of the property. Mr. Larimer indicated that he is requesting a zoning of LMN,
Low Density Mixed Use Neighborhood. He felt that if it is left with a staff
recommendation of RF, Foothills Residential, would only give the property a density of
5 lots sprawled on about 20 acres, given the boundaries and restrictions of the natural
areas. He stated that about 50% of the 20 acres is a developable parcel, which fits
more into the clustering context than the sprawl context for this particular parcel.
Mr. Larimer stated that they were not going to be unavailable to discuss with Natural
Areas about selling the northern section of Spring Creek, since they have offered them
an incentive to do so for a natural separation for the public open lands there. He stated
that they are not opposed to that, but at this time there is no incentive to do that. Staff
has limited them and gave them the ultimatum of saying that if they choose not to sell
the property north of Spring Creek, then the property will be zoned RF. RF will never
get enough density, only 6 homes will be offered if the land is to be developed under
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the RF zoning district, and that makes it totally unfeasible. With current impact fees and
the water/sewer cost to extend the mains and get the infrastructure done, it is
unfeasible to consider residential development on this parcel.
Mr. Larimer entered into the record a picture of the property. The picture indicated that
Olander Elementary School was just north of the property. Mr. Larimer stated that the
property was within ''Y2 mile of Olander Elementary and that the property provided
contiguity and connectivity to the school from this property and other properties in the
area. This was a parcel that was close to a major recreational area, Horsetooth
Reservoir, and he felt the area was defined as a neighborhood center and argued that
only 6 lucky families would get to live here. Mr. Larimer noted the density of the
surrounding neighborhoods being higher and stated that there should be 40 units
clustered on this property.
Mr. Larimer closed by saying that the annexation would help the city, but it has to be
made feasible for the other parties involved. He asked the Board to consider his
request to zone the property LMN.
• Public Input
None.
Member Craig asked about utilities and what was available out there.
Mr. Larimer replied there was water in 38E and sewer at Highlands West. The city has
the sewer in Highlands West and Fort Collins Loveland Water District down 38E.
Chairperson Colton asked about Mr. Larimers claim that only 5 units could be built on
this property.
Director Blanchard replied that he did not agree. He stated that if the entire parcel is
zoned Residential Foothills, there are two options. You can develop the entire parcel at
1 home per 2.29 acres, 100,000 s.f., which would give you about 6 units. The other
option, is to develop as a residential cluster plan at a density of 1 home per net acre.
For discussion purposes, a 3 acre buffer on each side of Spring Creek is subtracted
and would leave a net acreage at 1 home per acre, so the property would net around
17 homes.
Director Blanchard cautioned the Board that until a decision on the natural areas that
. are mapped is made, we really can't talk in terms of actual numbers and be confident
about it.
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Mr. Larimer responded that until a development proposal is filed, the actual net as
opposed to gross acreage of this parcel cannot be physically determined. By his
interpretation of the current Land Use Code for the natural area buffer zone,
approximately 10 to 11 acres of this property would be in the buffer zone, leaving only a
net acreage of 10 acres. If the cluster option is looked at, you have to have 50% of
your land open anyway, so the net residential development acreage is already reduced
to 10 acres. In addition, the staff report recommended that they don't build on the north
side of Spring Creek because they want it for public open lands, which would limit him
further to just 6 acres, or 6 net acres at 1 unit per net acre, that would be 6 units
clustered on 6 acres on a 20 acre parcel. That does not make residential development
feasible.
Mr. Larimer felt that if the city wants annexation, they should be competitive with what
the County would allow on the property — in allowing at least the density that the FA-1
would allow, which was 2 units per acre or 40 units on that parcel overall. The new City
Plan does not allow for that under the RF or the UE, so the only alternative he has is to
apply for the LMN residential district.
Director Blanchard clarified that we do not know if the property on the north would be
purchased so it should not enter into the discussion tonight. Secondly, if the property is
developed as an RF Cluster Plan, then the applicant would be required to dedicate the
property.
Director Blanchard stated that he an Mr. Larimer disagree in how the code is interpreted
for this situation.
Member Weitkunat asked if Director Blanchard felt the two parcels to the east were
compatible with this property.
Director Blanchard replied he did.
Member Gavaldon agreed with staffs recommendation.
Member Gavaldon moved to recommend approval of Wykoff - Larimer, First
Annexation, #57-98. Member Craig seconded the motion. The motion was
approved 4-0.
Member Gavaldon moved to recommend denial of the requested amendment to
the Structure Plan Map for the Wykoff - Larimer Annexation, #57-98. Member
Craig seconded the motion.
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Member Craig commented that she supports the motion. Everyone knows she is for
the "green". In reading everything that staff has provided, they are trying very hard to
give this piece of property monetary value, but keeping the green and the transition as
was wanted by everyone who put the Structure Map together.
Chairperson Colton also would support the motion for denial of the change to the
Structure Plan. He believed that this was a real important part of the city Structure Plan
to recognize some areas with larger urban estates as well as open space.
The motion was approved 4-0.
Member Gavaldon moved to recommend approval of the RF, Residential Foothills
zoning for Wykoff - Larimer First, #57-98. Member Weitkunat seconded the
motion.
Member Weitkunat felt that RF was the appropriate zoning based on its location and
proximity to the foothills and its access to rural open lands and stream corridors in that
area. She felt it was extremely appropriate for where it is located and it does meets the
Isintent and purposes of the city structure map. She felt that clustering can occur and
accomplish the purposes. She felt that in the long run Mr. Larimer would end up with
the units that he needs.
The motion was approved 4-0.
Member Gavaldon moved to recommend approval of the Wykoff - Larimer
Annexation, #57-98A. Member Weitkunat seconded the motion.
The motion was approved 4-0.
Member Gavaldon moved to recommend denial of the requested Structure Plan
Map amendment for the Wykoff - Larimer Annexation, #57-98A.
The motion was approved 4-0.
Member Gavaldon moved to recommend approval of the RF, Residential Foothills
zoning for the Wykoff - Larimer Annexation, #57-98A.
The motion was approved 4-0.
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Project: Recommendation to City Council Regarding the Larimer
County Regional Road and Park Capital Expansion Fees.
Project Description: Larimer County has asked that the City of Fort Collins adopt
a parallel set of fees for development which occurs within
the City. Two fees would be added to the City's current
fees. They would include a Regional Road Capital
Expansion Fee and a Regional Park Fee in Lieu of Land
Dedication.
Marc Engemoen, Public Works Director for Larimer County gave the presentation for
this item.
Public Input
None.
Board Questions and Commen
Member Gavaldon asked about needing more road improvements on County Road 17
when there was just work done on it recently.
Mr. Engemoen replied that several years ago there was a project to put bike lanes on
that road. That project was funded by the North Front Range Metropolitan Planning
Organization. Those were funds specifically earmarked for bicycle improvements that
added the 8 foot bike shoulders to that particular roadway. The improvements that
would be necessary in the future, for a road that is already carrying approximately
10,000 or 11,000 vehicles per day, would be adding two more vehicle lanes as well as
continuing to have the 8 foot bicycle lanes.
Member Gavaldon asked about County Roads 32, 38 and 402 going east. He
questioned the roads being only 5 to 7 miles long before you are in Weld County and
was Weld County going to partner in keeping the roads consistent with our upgrades to
4 lanes.
Mr. Engemoen replied that the 2015 traffic models indicate that those roads will be
carrying 15,000 cars per day. The capacity of a two-lane road is significantly less than
that. If we really want to have a level of service that is safe, we will have to widen those
roads to 4 lanes. He hoped that in the next "x" number of years, we will be able to work
closely with Weld County to encourage them to look at how they can creatively find a
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solution to fund their half of the problem. He felt that it would be doing a disservice to
the residents of Larimer County if we did not at least improve what was in our
jurisdiction.
Member Gavaldon asked about other surrounding communities using our roads and
asked if the argument was that they also come into our cities and pay city taxes
therefore they are covered from additional monies for future roads.
Mr. Engemoen replied that they are not capturing all the people who are using the
roads. He does not know of a system that could do that. They have taken a big leap in
trying to identify a system that would treat Larimer County as a region. He would like to
get to a point where we are thinking regionally including Longmont and Greeley. He
was hoping to take this initial step and begin to think of transportation regionally within
the County and build on that to think regionally with other communities as well.
Member Gavaldon asked about property taxes, and in addition, we are now being
asked to pay a fee on top of property taxes. The fee then adds to the price of the home
because the builders will pass the cost along to the consumer. He felt that was a
"double dipping" approach.
Mr. Engemoen replied that they were not "double dipping". He stated that there were
two sides to transportation needs. One is capital improvements, which we are talking
about with the regional fee. The other is maintenance. Virtually every dollar that
Larimer County collects currently goes towards operations and maintenance. The
County does not have funds for capital improvements. A very small amount of the tax
money they collect is set aside to deal with urgent safety problems. As new homes
come on board, all the new traffic just beats up the roads that much quicker and the
operations and maintenance costs continue to grow. The funds that will continue to be
collected in the future from new development through taxes will still go toward
operations and maintenance. The fee they are suggesting that Larimer County
residents pay is the capital improvement portion of the picture. There is about
$200,000,000 in capital improvement needs out there. The longer they delay
implementing these fees, the larger that problem is going to become and the more
expensive it is going to be.
Mr. Engemoen explained that the County is doing the same thing that the City is doing.
The County has existing needs, deficiencies that have accumulated over the past
several decades. There are also new needs that are associated with new
development. They are proposing the same thing that the City of Fort Collins is doing.
The City is using impact fees to address the piece that has to do with new
development. The City has chosen to use the fee approach to fund the future
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deficiencies. The City is using a sales tax to fund the existing deficiencies, the Future
Choices Program is the current program. The County will also be looking at other
methods of funding to address existing deficiencies.
Cam McNair, City Engineering Department added that this is a growth paying its own
way issue. City Staff was consulted on this by Mr. Engemoen and his consultant and
the City had a chance to review the proposal and the City is very much in support of it.
He stated that the Transportation Board endorsed the proposal. He stated that a side
benefit of this would be that there might be less incentive for builders to look outside of
the city limits to try and avoid some of the fees because now the fees in the County
would be similar to those in the city limits, at least for the fees that support
transportation.
Mr Engemoen gave a presentation on the Regional Park Fee. He explained that the
fee is not the same as the transportation capital expansion fee, it is a fee in lieu of land
dedication for parks. This fee would only be charged to residential units, not
commercial, business or industrial permits.
Chairperson Colton asked if the fee would be raised accordingly if the price of land
increases.
Mr. Engemoen replied it would. It is built into the Ordinances a periodic review of the
fees.
Mr. Engemoen stated that the Regional Park Fee is actually is for new residents to
"buy" into our existing level of service. They will also pay the quarter cent sales tax that
enhances or furthers our level of service.
Member Weitkunat asked to have 'level of service" defined in this instance.
Mr. Engemoen replied that in this context it means the total number of acres divided by
the total number of units. There are currently 13,000 acres and 86,000 residential
units, so the level of service is 0.158 acres per residential unit.
Member Gavaldon asked if they had met with the Affordable Housing Board and if so,
what were their findings.
Russ Legg, Director of Planning for Larimer County replied that the Board
recommended denial of the fees and they also were going to write a letter to the City
Council for their consideration on March 2 indicating that it was very difficult for them to
consider "any" fee from the County when the County as an institution does not seem to
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take affordable housing as serious as the Board would like for them to. The
recommendation included both fees.
Member Gavaldon asked if the County or the City were looking at exemptions or
considerations for affordable housing.
Mr. Mc Nair replied that if these fees are put into place, then whatever rules we use in
Fort Collins to deal with affordable housing would apply to these fees just like any other
fees.
Mr. Legg replied that the affordable housing question is very difficult for County. He
stated that they have reduced impact fees for affordable housing developments in the
past, but it is done on a case by case basis. The Commissioners have directed both
Planning and the staff that works on affordable housing to:
• identify what is true affordable housing and;
• what is worthy of consideration using that definition as an affordable housing
land use project.
ofThe Commissioners are a long way from deciding the policy that is associated with that.
Member Gavaldon asked about the total fees for a building permit.
Mr. Legg replied that in 1995, the City of Fort Collins had almost $8,000 worth of
development fees. That was raised in 1998 to almost $10,400 which is about a 36%
increase by the City of Fort Collins from 1995 to 1998.
Member Gavaldon asked where that put us in 1999 with these fees.
Mr. Legg replied that it would be an additional $865 to the total.
Member Gavaldon felt that was a very large increase of over 36%.
Member Craig commented that Mr. Engemoen gave an excellent presentation.
Member Craig recommended that the Board forward a recommendation to
implement both the Regional Road Capital Expansion Fee as well as the Regional
Park Fee.
Chairperson Colton seconded the motion.
Member Gavaldon complimented staff on their presentation. Member Gavaldon stated
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that he could see some merit in the transportation fee, but would not support the fee
based on values. He also would not support the park fee because he believes in the
user system and if the users want it, they have to pay for it. He is also sensitive to
affordable housing needs and felt the fees were becoming unreasonable. He does
believe in fees and felt Fort Collins does have a good structure in place. He felt there
should be more work on this because he felt that the fees have crossed the line to
unreasonable for growth to pay its own way.
Member Weitkunat would not be supporting the fee for parks. She felt the quarter
percent sales tax took care of that. If we are asking people to pay more to buy more
land, she felt we already do that in the city and now they want people to also pay more
for in the county and next it would be the state. Member Weitkunat felt she could not
put that burden on another single family home to create more parkland.
Member Weitkunat commented on the transportation capital expansion fee. She
believed that the transportation has become regional and that the municipalities are
responsible for much of the traffic that we find on these roads. What concerned her
was the magnitude of the fee on all single, multi -family residences and commercial
properties. She stated that if the northeast develops 10,000 units, there was
$1,640,000 on roads that she was not sure the northeast will be traveling. She does
not think that everyone should be accountable and she would not be supporting the
motion. She thinks that the idea is right, but it needs to be more equitable.
Chairperson Colton stated that he would be supporting the recommendation and the
fees. He commented that in both the Plus System as well as City Plan, it talks about
growth paying its fair share and to be fair to all involved. He felt this is doing growth
smart, and if we don't do this then we won't have the roads, parks and open space; and
then taxes will be raised on everyone, and that is unfair to those people who are
already here.
Chairperson Colton commented that he also supported the park fee. If we are to put
this fee in place and the tax runs out in 5 years, the taxpayers have the choice to either
renew it or not. If we are getting enough fees from the new growth, we might get a tax
reduction for all of us who are already here. He felt we are obligated to do this for the
people who already live here. We could reduce taxes in other areas if we have new
growth pay for it. It comes from one place or the other or we suffer a level of service,
and he was not willing to do that because it won't be a livable place here.
Member Craig concurred with Chairperson Colton. She felt this was very needed. That
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growth was coming here because of the amenities and if we don't continue to get the
parks larger, people will complain.
The recommendation failed 2-2 with Members Weitkunat and Gavaldon voting in
the negative. There is no recommendation.
There was no other business.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:16 p.m.
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FEB 21999
1/29/99
Ted Shepherd
Community Planning & Environmental Services
PO Box 580
Fort Collins, Co. 80522
Dear Ted:
On Thursday, January 28 Sister Mary Alice Murphy presented plans for the proposed Care
Housing at W indtrail park to Hillpond residents at our Annual Homeowners Meeting.
With the permission of the homeowners who were present at this meeting, 1 am writing to convey
our general approval of the project as it was presented to us. It seems to us well planned, and we are
assured that the CARE organization will provide careful and ongoing screening and supervision of
residents.
Please pass this letter along to the Planning & Zoning Board for their deliberations.
Thank you.
me ely,
Ronald S. Hert
Hill Pond Homeowners Assoc. Board
1913 H Waters Edge
Fort Collins, Co. 80526
493-7770 or482-5650
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MEMORANDUM
TO: City of Ft. Collins Planning & Zoning Board
FROM: Russell N. Legg, Chief Planner
Larimer County Planning Departmen
RE: Regional Fees
DATE: February 4, 1999
PLANNING DIVISION
Planning Department
P.O. Box 1190
Fort Collins, Colorado 80522-1190
(970) 498-7683
Fax (970) 498-7711
http://www.co.larimer.co.us/planning
During the work session on the proposed fees, Mr. Gavaldon asked County staff to review the alternatives
in the event all regional cities did not participate in the regional fee collection program. Each community
the County works with will need to schedule their Review based on their internal fee review process and
budget considerations. It is County staff s desire to have each community consider the issue as soon as
possible. Each community should adopt or not adopt the regional fees based on their assessment of the
merits of the program.
Listed below are comparisons of residential building permits issued by the various cities and towns in
Latimer County. Almost 90% of the residential building permits issued by the Towns and Cities in 1997
were issued by Ft. Collins and Loveland.
1997 Residential Permits
Ft. Collins
57%
Loveland
32%
Estes Park
4.8%
Berthoud
3.8%
Wellington
2.2%
Windsor
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These figures indicate that for the regional fee program to be considered fair and a success, then at a
minimum Ft. Collins, Loveland, and Latimer County must participate in the program. County staff
recommends regional participation in the fee should be reviewed and reported to adopting communities
within 12 months. The fee administrators from the participating jurisdictions should jointly prepare the
report and recommend any fee program modifications that may be appropriate.
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