HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning And Zoning Board - Minutes - 05/12/1997Council Liaison: Mike Byrne I Staff Liaison: Bob Blanchard
Chairperson: Gwen Bell Phone: (H) 221-3415
Vice Chair: Glen Colton Phone: (H) 225-2760 (W) 679-3201
The meeting was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Chairperson Gwen Bell.
Roll Call: Weitkunat, Gavaldon, Colton, Davidson, Chapman, Bell.
Staff Present: Blanchard, Eckman, Olt, Wamhoff, Stanford, Ludwig, Schlueter and
Macklin.
Agenda Review: Director of Current Planning Blanchard reviewed the continued
discussion agenda:
10. #58-86C Richard's Lake PUD - Amended Overall Development
Plan.
• 11. #58-86D Richard's Lake PUD, Phase I - Preliminary
12. #1.97 First Assembly of God PUD - Preliminary (Continued)
13. Modification of Conditions of Approval
2. #17-90C Spring Creek Center PUD - Preliminary
Project Name: Richard's Lake PUD - Amended Overall Development Plan
Case Number: #58-86C
Project Description: This is a request for approval of an amended Overall
Development Plan (ODP) for a total of 682 residential
dwelling units, 21,000 square feet of neighborhood
business/commercial/office/residential uses, a 15,000
square foot community building/daycare/clubhouse building,
and a 7.2 acre neighborhood park site on 181.7 acres. The
project is located at the northwest corner of the intersection
of County Road 11 and Richard's Lake Road and is zoned
LMN - Low Density Mixed Use Neighborhood.
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The following individuals testified at the hearing:
Steve Olt, City Planner, gave a staff presentation stating that staff was recommending
approval. (See Staff Report for more detailed information).
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Jim Sell, Jim Sell Design, 117 E. Mountain Avenue, Suite 200A, gave a presentation
on behalf of the applicant. He gave a history of the project and spoke about current
zoning on the property, vested rights, current utilities on the property, transportation,
neighborhood compatibility, density, vehicular and pedestrian circulation, the current
and proposed Overall Development Plans, and the proposed Activity Center.
Member Colton asked what uses would be anticipated being in this smaller
neighborhood size commercial center as compared to the larger Activity Center. Mr.
Sell replied that there would be a small coffee shop/restaurant, maybe a laundry,
convenience store, etc. Neighborhood services that are within walking distance.
Member Weitkunat asked what changes were the Board being asked to consider on
this ODP. Mr. Sell replied that the changes were in density, the location of the Activity
Center, the street structure, the size of the commercial area, the increase in open
space and the deletion of the school that was in the original plan.
Chairperson Bell had concerns with inter -connectivity with the surrounding
neighborhoods. Mr. Sell responded that it was a sensitive issue due to the
neighborhoods having private streets and that they were just assessed by the County
for repaving, and they did not want additional traffic on their streets.
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Shirley Knox, 2505 N. County Road 11, representing her neighborhood stated that the
neighborhood has been involved with this project for over a year. She asked that the
Board approve the ODP. Ms. Knox stated that the Board had a memorandum of
agreement in their packet that they have come to with the developer. Ms. Knox spoke
on compatibility, the neighborhood community center, that her neighborhood agrees
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with the commercial being located in the center of the development, and the trail
system. Ms. Knox stated that her neighborhood felt that this is a better plan and urged
the Board to approved the ODP amendment.
Randy Allen, read a letter into the record from Richard Andrews, who was not able to
attend. The letter stated that he felt that the proposed ODP was a better plan than the
existing plan.
Virginia McCambridge, 1905 Richards Lake Road spoke about working with the
developer to incorporate their ideas into this plan. She stated that this plan has the
approval of all the residents on Richards Lake Road. She spoke on compatibility, the
park and commercial area, and accessibility. She asked the Board to approve the
amendment to the ODP.
Jerry Duath, Serramonte Homeowners Association stated that the new plan provides
better transitioning from the currently approved plan. He stated that the residents of
Serramonte support the amended plan.
• Kathleen Kilkelly, northeast resident stated that she supports the efforts of the
neighborhood working group. She feels that the amended design is far superior to the
existing plan. Ms. Kilkelly spoke on the trail system and she asked the Board to
approve the amendment.
Bridgette Schmidt, northeast resident stated that the amended plan is better, more
compatible and works well in transitioning.
Tom Parker, resident stated that he has concerns with density and traffic. He did not
feel that the traffic issues have been addressed.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION CLOSED
Member Colton asked about vested rights, and if this is not approved, would the
development have vested rights. Deputy City Attorney Eckman replied that it is a
process that the developer is going through for a determination of a common law
vested right. It is more of, is there a vested right because of developer activity and
expense incurred.
• Member Colton asked what the timeline would be for the Commercial Activity Center.
Director Blanchard replied that was unknown.
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Member Colton asked about current and future employment in the area. Mr. Sell and
Planner Olt responded that there are 702 employees at Anheuser Busch currently and
that they did not know of any future industrial locating in the area at this point.
Chairperson Bell asked where the existing approved commercially available sites were
located. Mr. Olt presented a slide and explained the surrounding land uses:
Member Colton commented that this was an improvement from the existing ODP, but
he did not feel that this project meets the Land Use Policies Plan.
Member Weitkunat felt that the Policies that should be looked at are the one's that are
directing growth in the northeast. She felt it was not the intent of the Land Use Policies
Plan to make ODP's address every policy in the Plan.
Member Weitkunat moved for approval of the Amendment to the Overall
Development Plan for the Richard's Lake P.U.D.
Member Chapman seconded the motion.
Member Gavaldon commented he felt a lot of good work had been done by the
Developer and the neighbors. He would be supporting the motion.
Member Chapman felt the Developer and the neighbors had done the best example
that he had seen in trying to work together to come up with a better plan. He felt that
this was a better plan and it addresses many of the key things in the northeast that
need to be addressed.
Member Colton commented that until the City changes it's policy on locational criteria
not being important, he would stand by those policies in saying that it is important to be
close to existing schools, to existing shopping, to existing employment centers, or at
least be close to ones that are planned. He did not think this amended plan meets #16,
22, 50, 49, 79a and 79c of the Land Use Policies Plan. He would not be supporting the
motion.
Member Davidson also felt that we were creating more vehicle trip miles because we do
not have a viable service center in this development or in the area. He did think that
there were many nice things about this development, with the exception of the
commercial, and it was a more improved version of the last ODP.
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Planner Olt stated that the existing ODP expired with the Transition Ordinance, but the
developer has submitted an application for vested rights of that ODP. The application
tonight is for an amendment to that ODP that was approved in 1986.
Chairperson Bell felt that the changes are good, but felt that there might not be enough
supporting services in the area.
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The motion was approved 4-2, with Members Colton and Davidson voting in the
negative.
Project Name: Richard's Lake PUD, Phase I - Preliminary #58-86D
Case # #58-86D
• Project Description: Request for a preliminary Planned Unit Development
approval for 293 single family residential lots, 64 multi -family
residential dwelling units, 21,000 square feet of
neighborhood business/commercial/office/residential uses, a
15,000 square foot community/daycare/clubhouse building,
and a 6.0 to 7.0 acre neighborhood park site on 114.62
acres. The property is located at the northwest corner of the
intersection of County Road 11 and Richard's Lake Road
and is zoned LMN - Low Density Mixed Use Neighborhood.
Staff Recommendation: Approval with the following conditions:
The determination of final off -site access alignments will be decided prior to final
Planning and Zoning Board approval. Determinations will be based on a future
study of the proposed northeast activity center, to be conducted by the City
Advance Planning Department, future traffic development that may occur in the
area, and necessary negotiations with area property owners for street right-of-
way.
2. The applicant/developer of the Richard's Lake PUD must submit to the City all
necessary signed easements and agreements witht the Eaton Ditch Company,
owners of the No.8 Outlet Ditch, and affected private property owners to allow
• detained storm water runoff to outfall into the No.8 Ditch. The necessary
easements and agreements must be included with the Final PUD submittal to the
City and the Eaton Ditch Company must approve and sign the final utility plans
prior to their being recorded and filed in the City.
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Hearing Testimony. Comments and Other Evidence:
For the City: Steve Olt, City Planner gave the staff presentation recommending
approval with conditions.
For the Applicant icant: Jim Sell, Jim Sell Design, representing the applicant gave a detailed
presentation. He discussed the large greenbelt areas, the trails, density, the activity
center, the mix of housing types, the commercial area, road alignments and
improvements, and the variance for the child care center.
Member Chapman asked about the homeowner's list of agreements with the builder
and that the south side of Richard's Lake Road would not meet city standards. Mr. Sell
replied that no changes would be made to the south side of that road, but curb, gutter,
a detached sidewalk, and a landscaped parkway would be added on the north side. He
stated that Engineering had approved it, and that it would be to disruptive to the mature
landscaping to make those changes to the south side.
Member Weitkunat asked about contiguity. Mr. Olt replied that Hearthfire does not
qualify because it is not built. It does have some contiguity from the first phase of
Richard's Lake P.U.D., but it is such a small portion that they cannot get points for it,
and the Country Club is in the County, so no points can be awarded there.
Member Davidson asked if the two designated lots for daycare were unsuccessful as
such, would they then become houses. Paul Eckman, Deputy City Attorney replied that
it would be a violation of the PUD.
PUBLIC INPUT
Margaret Phillips, resident, addressed the issue of growth in the north. She stated that
this was an error the City made several years ago when this property was annexed as a
flagpole annexation. She believed that the developer has done an excellent job trying
to make the best of a bad situation.
Nick Yobbaby, lives on Richards Lake Road reiterated that the developer has done a
fine job in making this area contiguous to the area that already exists. Mr. Yobbaby
spoke to concerns with County Road 11 and the traffic it will bring into the area. He
stated that the frontage road the developer is proposing has consent from all the
homeowners on County Road 11 and felt it would help the situation and provide a
buffer and limited access.
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Pat Knavel, lives on Country Club Road, spoke on the traffic pattens and his concern
that people would use Country Club Road to access services and asked that a traffic
study be done to show what the traffic would be going out to Lemay or College.
Ken Forbes, lives on County Road 11, spoke on his concerns with County Road 11,
access into the area and traffic patterns.
Don Homan, lives in Adriel Hills stated that he did not have a problem with the
proposed development and spoke to his concerns with the traffic patterns.
Dean Smith, Boxelder Sanitation District, spoke in favor of the development. He
encouraged the Board to support this project.
Tom Parker, resident, felt that this was putting the cart before the horse. He had a lot
of concerns with traffic patterns, and no alternatives. He felt that there was a.minority
supporting this as far as population is concerned in the northeast.
• Dr. Codd, lives on Country Club Road, spoke about traffic on Country Club Road. He
was concerned with the children on Country Club road walking to Tavelli School. He
asked that the developer have another alternative route but Country Club Road.
Shirley Knox, 2505 N. County Road 11, stated that she understands the transportation
issues and she felt that all the roads would have to be built eventually if this property
was going to develop. She stated that the developer was willing to make major road
improvements in the northeast and work with the neighbors.
PUBLIC INPUT CLOSED
Planner Olt asked the Board to add to the Findings of Fact and Conclusions in the staff
report, the day care variance, so it would be part of any action the Board might take on
this proposal. He would like it to indicate as an additional Finding of Fact that the single
daycare location is considered to be an appropriate location in this development. It will
require a variance by the Board. Staff is suggesting that it is an appropriate location in
lieu of the two proposed daycares -- it would meet the intent of the residential density
point chart. Planner Olt also read into the record the two proposed conditions of this
project.
• Member Chapman asked what streets were planned in this area according to the
Master Street Plan. His concerns were north and south access on arterial roads and
east and west access. He also asked when the road in Hearthfire would be completed
in conjunction with the roads in this development.
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Ward Stanford, Engineering Department gave an explanation of the existing and
proposed roads and their designations according to the Master Street Plan.
Chairperson Bell asked about the impacts around Tavelli School.
Matt Delich, Traffic Engineer for the applicant stated that traffic studies that some of the
neighbors called for have been done. He stated that Country Club Road is now
operating at a level of service A and B. He stated that the road can handle a lot more
volume than it is currently. He stated that with phase 1 of this development the service
level would only drop to level B and C.
Member Davidson asked about pedestrian safety on Country Club Road.
Mr. Delich replied that there is no curb, gutter and minimal paved shoulders. It is a
County Road, and that is the preference of the people who live along it.
Member Weitkunat asked what purview did this Board have over county roads.
Mr. Stanford replied that there is cooperation between the City and County for off -site
improvements, and that if the property is in the UGA, then they have to meet urban
street requirements.
Member Gavaldon asked Mr. Delich about the intersection of Vine Drive and Lemay
and where did he see it in 5 years.
Mr. Delich replied that the intersection would operate acceptably by city standards, no
worse that level of service D.
Member Gavaldon asked Mr. Delich about the intersection of Lemay and Country Club
road and where did he see it in 5 years.
Mr. Delich replied that with minimal improvements, it would operate at an acceptable
level, but would operate better if it had a three -lane cross-section, which the residents
that live along the road do not want.
Scott Price, Wintergreen Homes gave a history and progression of what they have
looked at as far as traffic.
Member Colton stated that he understood the off -site improvements that are being
done here, but he also knows that there are impacts to other areas. He would like to
know what is going on with all the streets in this area and long-term, who is actually
paying for the needed improvements. He asked that it be part of the analysis that is
being done by Advance Planning and Transportation.
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Chairperson Bell asked about the needed easements for storm drainage.
Glen Schlueter, Stormwater Department explained that the easements were off -site
easements, and without them they probably do not have a project.
Member Chapman moved for approval of the variance for the daycare center,
allowing a single daycare center, and that it will comply with the intent of the
code, and we do not require two to be in exact compliance with the 1,000 feet.
Member Chapman stated that the variance would be equal to or better than the
original proposal.
Member Colton seconded the motion.
The motion was approved 5-0.
Member Chapman moved for approval of the Richard's Lake PUD, Preliminary,
Phase 1, with the following conditions:
• 1. The determination of final off -site access alignments north to south and
east to west will be decided prior to the final Planning and Zoning Board
approval. Determinations will be based on a future traffic study of the
proposed northeast activity center, to be conducted by the City Advance
Planning Department and Transportation Services Department, involving
future development that may occur in the area, and necessary negotiations
for street right-of-way with area property owners.
2. The applicant/developer of the Richard's Lake PUD must submit to the City
all necessary signed easements and agreements with the Eaton Ditch
Company, owners of the No. 8 Outlet Ditch, and affected private property
owners to allow detained storm water runoff to outfall into the No. 8 Ditch.
The necessary easements and agreements must be included with the Final
PUD submittal to the City and the Eaton Ditch Company must approve and
sign the final utility plans prior to their being recorded and filed in the City.
Member Weitkunat seconded the motion.'
The motion was approved 5-0.
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Project Name: Spring Creek Center PUD, Preliminary
Case #: #17-90C
Project Descriptien: This is a request for 86,055 square feet of mixed use
development to include office, business services, and auto -
related convenience uses in seven buildings on 11.6 acres.
The property is located at the southeast corner of the
intersection of E. Prospect Road and Timberline Road,
north of Midpoint Drive, and west of Specht Point Road.
The property is zoned E, Employment.
Approval with the following condition:
1. The alignment of the proposed bike/pedestrian path between the north facades
of buildings on Lots 2, 3, and 4 and the Spring Creek Channel will be further
reviewed at the time of Final PUD application(s) to ensure the safety of users.
Hearing_ Testimony. Comments and Other Evidence:
Member Colton pulled this item from the consent agenda. He stated that his issues
were stormwater drainage and what would be done with the water before it is let out
into Spring Creek. Second, the location of the bike trail being too close to the creek.
Eldon Ward, Cityscape Urban Design, replied that the stormwater will be treated with a
water quality device of some kind. Also, the question on the bike path deals with a
pedestrian/bike pathway that is not the city trail, and is being provided with the
development, and it's proximity to the top of the bank of the channel. Mr. Ward stated
that they have talked to staff and have agreed to make adjustments to get more
separation.
Mr. Ward explained that the water would drain into a central circulation way which is
where it will be treated and released into a pipe into the natural drainageway.
Chairperson Bell asked what the treatment process would include.
Mike Jones, Northern Engineering, representing the applicant replied that oil/water
separators are common devices and that is what device would be used.
Member Davidson asked about capacity.
Mr. Jones replied that it could be designed for any size storm event we want
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Member Davidson asked about safeguards being taken for fuel tanks leaking.
Mr. Jones replied that they would have double vaults. That is where the fuel tanks are
sifting in another concrete vault which has one and a half times the capacity of the fuel
tank itself. There are also monitoring standards.
Motion:
Member Colton moved for approval of Spring Creek Center PUD, Preliminary with
the condition stated in the staff report.
Member Weitkunat seconded the motion.
The motion was approved. 5-0.
Project Name: Review of Selected Projects for Continued Modification of
• Final Approval
Project Descri t� At the March 24, 1997 P & Z Board Meeting, the Board
identified five projects that they would like to review and
reconsider continued modification of final approval. After
reviewing each project, the Board should take one of two
actions:
• vote to continue modifying the final approval which will allow the project to
remain active while utility plans are being finalized and a development
agreement formulated; or,
• deny the modification of final approval which will deny the continued extension of
the time frame for finalization of utility plans and development agreement.
The Board requested a review of the following project:
• Bank One at Harmony Market
• Waterglen PUD;
• Hugh M. Woods;
• Centre For Advanced Technology, 17th Filing; and,
• Christ Fellowship Church
• Chairperson Bell reported that items One and Four have been filed and are no longer
on the list.
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Director Blanchard reported that P & Z Approval was given on November 20, 1995.
Engineering has indicated that several rounds of utility plans were reviewed, but the
final round of comments were returned to the applicants in April of last year and there
has been no activity on the project since.
Director Blanchard explained that the Pastor has indicated that they have been actively
raising money to continue the process and when sufficient funds are raised, the project
will once again become active.
Chairperson Bell stated that since the church is raising money to continue the process,
she feels that they are actively working on the project.
Member Chapman moved to approve the extension on this project. This will
leave the project on the month -to -month list.
Chairperson Bell asked for a letter from the church stating that they are actively fund
raising to continue this process.
Member Gavaldon seconded the motion.
The motion was approved 4-1, with Member Colton voting in the negative.
Eldon Ward, Cityscape Urban Design stated that the Board received a brief summary in
their staff report. He stated that this was a very complicated project from an
engineering standpoint, and gave a list of requirements this project has had to
complete. Mr. Ward reported that there is ongoing progress and the plans are nearing
final form. The applicant has well over $400,000 invested in the project and pulling the
rug out from under the project certainly would be deemed a hardship. Mr. Ward stated
that there was a letter in the Board's packet stating the change in ownership on the
project from the original owner at the time of approval. Mr. Ward stated that it would be
at least the fall, later this year before there is a development agreement executed and
that would be with ongoing efforts.
Ward Stanford, Engineering Department concurred with Mr. Ward. He stated they have
worked out a great deal of issues on the off -site items. They are fairly close to being
finalized.
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Mr. Ward gave a detailed history of the project highlighting all the changes in staff and
other people over time involved with the project and its effect on the processing
timeline.
PUBLIC INPUT
Dana Lenninger, 941 N. County Road 5 read a statement she prepared on the issue.
She asked that further extensions on the project be denied. (Copy of letter included
with minutes).
PUBLIC INPUT CLOSED
Member Colton asked how much time City Staff has spent on this project.
Mr. Stanford replied that both parties have spent a great deal of time on this project.
He felt that the developers new engineer will get the job finished because they are
more familiar with this kind of development.
• Member Weitkunat commented that from everything they have heard, it seems that this
project is being actively worked on. It sounds like there is some specific and unique
circumstances that prevent this from coming to fruition at an earlier date. She doubts
that it would be detrimental to the public good if the Board did approve this.
Member Weitkunat recommended approval of the continued modification of final
approval for the Waterglen PUD.
Member Gavaldon seconded the motion.
Member Colton recommended that the project be completed by January of 1998, or the
Board will no longer continue to modify it. That would be three years from the date of
the appeal.
Deputy City Attorney Eckman asked Member Colton if he was suggesting that this
extension go to January 1998 and no further unless the development agreement and
utility plans are done.
Member Colton replied that he would like to have the conditions met by that time.
Member Weitkunat felt that the process should be scrutinized more carefully and that it
is not just Waterglen, but many other projects in the pipeline. She feels that in fairness
to all the applicant's and projects, she would like the Board to consider what is fair and
reasonable and appropriate that would span all projects.
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Member Colton stated he would accept the motion as stated.
The motion was approved 5-0.
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Jim Sell, representing Front Range Limited Partnership, owners of the property, stated
that the PUD has been vested since March 10, 1995. He stated that the project was
inactive, but that they did not want to abandon the PUD, so it would remain valid for
three years before an extension request is necessary. He stated that his client was not
asking for an open-ended period of time where a development agreement could be
pursued, but for them to get the three year vesting from the time the final appeal was
approved.
Mr. Sell read into the record from the landowner, "In connection with this extension
request, Front Range is willing to provide the City with a written waiver, waiving it's right
to assert a three year statutory vested right from the date the development agreement
condition is met."
Deputy City Attorney Eckman stated that Mrs. Liley's letter indicates that the Code
differs from the condition that we attached to the project. The Code at that time,
Section 29-514, which is the site specific development approval, final approval, is when
the three year time period begins on the vested rights. With the condition placed on the
project, we have a different provision about the commencement of the clock running on
the vested right. The clock does not start to run until the development agreement is
approved. Mr. Eckman stated that a legal issue has been raised that the land owner
has sunk enough money into this project, that he might want to take that issue up in
some form of litigation. Mr. Eckman suggested that the Board might want to adjourn to
executive session to discuss the matter.
Member Chapman suggested that this item be deferred to another meeting so the
Board can get some counsel on the legal issues.
Mr. Eckman suggested an executive session to reserve the attorney/client privilege
since litigation has been suggested by the landowner.
Member Chapman moved to adjourn this meeting until next Friday, May 16th to
conduct an executive session on this issue and determine when this issue would
be reheard.
Member Gavaldon seconded the motion.
The motion was approved 5-0.
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There was no other business.
The meeting adjourned to Friday, May 16th at 11:00 p.m. at 12:25 a.m.