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Minutes approved by the Board at the July 29, 2004 Meeting
FORT COLLINS BUILDING REVIEW BOARD
Regular Meeting — June 24, 2004
1:00 u.m.
Council Liaison: Karen Weitkunat--Staff Liaison: Felix Lee (221-6760)
Chairperson: Charles Fielder hone: 484-0117(W), 207-0505(Hl
A regular meeting of the Building Review Board was held on Thursday June 24, 2004, in the
Council Chambers of the Fort Collins Municipal Building at 300 LaPorte Avenue, Fort Collins,
Colorado.
BOARDMEMBERS PRESENT:
David Carr
Charles Fielder
Leslie Jones
Gene Little
John McCoy
Bradley Massey
Michael Smilie
BOARDMEMBERS ABSENT:
None
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:
Felix Lee, Building and Zoning Director
Delynn Coldiron, Contractor Licensing Administrator
Stacie Soriano, Staff Support
AGENDA:
ROLLCALL
The meeting was called to order and roll call was taken.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Carr made a motion to approve the minutes from the May 27, 2004, meeting. Jones seconded the
motion. The motion passed.
Contractor Appeal, John Mason, d/b/a Brentwood Renovation, Case #13-04
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Lee provided an introduction to the appeal. The Appellant currently
has a Class D2 license, but was seeking a Class E license. Lee referred board members to
information in their packets regarding the limits of a Class D2 license, which included structural
modifications and additions to R-3 dwelling units, small storage buildings, and private garages.
Lee noted the Appellant was before the Board once before, and requested a one-time exemption.
The exemption was granted, but the project was never completed. Lee said the Appellant did not
have documentation verifying the required experience for a Class E license. Lee added that the
Appellant did pass the Class E licensing exam.
John Mason addressed the Board. Mason noted that his clients were widening their scope to
include commercial properties. Mason explained what happened with the project that received a
one-time exemption. According to Mason, the project grew, and he decided that he did not want
to do it. Mason said he gave Coldiron a letter of recommendation from the Jensen Investment
Group (a client of Mason's). Mason said his D2 license allowed him to perform structural work
on residential units, but the E license did not allow any structural work. Mason also submitted a
list of jobs he performed on the East Coast when he appeared before the Board three years ago.
Mason said telephone numbers were available.
Lee asked Mason if he had projects that qualified him for the Class E license. Mason said he
built a three-story office building with a mini plaza that included tenant finish work. Mason was
a supervisor on the office building project. Mason said that he did not know where the permit
was for the office building. Mason noted that he had telephone numbers. Lee commented that it
was Mason's job to put the information on the appropriate form. Mason gave Coldiron some
forms prior to the meeting. Lee read the letter from the Jensen Group that noted Mason
performed substantial renovation work which was code compliant for both residential and
commercial properties. Lee asked if the projects were in the city. Mason said no, and that he
acted as a consultant, not as a contractor. Lee noted Mason also provided a list of four projects
that he performed on the East Coast. Mason said it was the same list he submitted three years
ago. Lee wanted the project verification forms filled out. Mason replied that he did not have
enough project verification forms or permit numbers.
Mason noted that his current license allowed for him to perform structural work. Carr asked
Mason when he passed the E exam. Mason responded last week. Massey asked staff how many
project verification forms were received. Staff answered that they had not received any. Massey
asked staff when Mason obtained his D2 license, how long he has had the license, and whether
he submitted project verification forms. Coldiron stated that she did not bring his D2 license file,
but Mason had submitted sufficient projects for that license. According to Coldiron, there were
not any project forms that would qualify for a Class E license. Little asked Mason if he had a
pending project. Mason replied he did have a project waiting.
Mason made his closing statement. Lee made his closing statement. Lee commented that there
was not a track record established for Mason. Lee wanted the list of projects verified for a
complete record. Massey asked staff how many projects Mason has completed since obtaining
his Class D2 license. Coldiron replied approximately twelve and that most of the projects were
for egress windows in residential basements, basement finishes, and demolitions. Massey
wanted to know the dollar amount for his pending project. Mason replied approximately S4000-
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• $5000. According to Mason, the project consisted of a wall dividing
off part of the building and a tattoo parlor. Jones asked Mason if he objected to obtaining project
verification forms. Mason said no.
Jones made a motion to grant a waiver for the pending project for an E license. Approval of the
E license would be subject to Mason submitting the necessary project verification forms to staff
even though they may be deficient in some areas. Little seconded the motion. Fielder clarified
that Jones' motion allowed Mason a one-time exemption for the pending project and to obtain
the Class E license Mason would have to fill -out the project verification forms. Jones said yes.
Lee asked if the intention of the motion was to grant a one-time exemption under his current D-2
license. Jones said yes. The motion passed.
Vote:
Yeas: Little, Jones, McCoy, Fielder, Massey, Smilie, and Carr.
Nays: None.
4. Contractor Appeal, Bruce Ver Steeg, d/b/a Omni Custom Builders, Inc., Case #14-04
Lee noted Appellant Ver Steeg withdrew his application and planned on appearing at the July 29,
2004 meeting.
5. Contractor Appeal, David M. Price, d/b/a 2 Men & a Hammer, Case #15-04
• Lee provided an introduction to the appeal. Lee stated that the Appellant was seeking a Class D2
license but that the project forms submitted did not meet the criteria for a Class D2 license.
According to Lee, the Appellant passed the D1 exam last month. According to the Appellant's
information, he has a degree in mechanical engineering which he would like to substitute for the
experience requirement. Lee clarified that the Appellant was seeking approval for a Class D2
license with an experience documentation waiver.
David Price addressed the Board. Price stated that he has been in business for less than one year
along the Front Range. He started the business with a partner, although the partner has since left.
According to Price, he was recently licensed in the City of Denver with a Class C2 license and in
Loveland with a Class C license. Price explained that the licenses in other jurisdictions were
equivalent to the City of Fort Collins' D2 category. Price's projects consisted mainly of decks,
basement finishes, and minor remodels. He stated that he has performed some structural work.
Price noted that he has not met the criteria for a Class D2 license. He also noted that he had a
bachelor's and master's degree in mechanical engineering as well as 20-plus years of
engineering experience. Price felt his experience made him knowledgeable enough to run a
construction business. Price stated that after high school, he went into architecture, although he
dropped out of architecture to pursue a career in mechanical engineering. While in architecture,
he designed homes and commercial renovations. Price has not built an entire home or garage.
Price sought an experience waiver.
• Lee asked Price about his three months experience as a framing laborer. Price responded he was
a framer one summer while he was in college, and worked on an apartment complex. Lee asked
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about Price's experience in designing solar equipment. Price replied
that he went into the solar energy field, and helped design several solar heating systems. Lee
questioned Price about his lengthy career in mechanical engineering particularly in software
development. Price stated that he designed laser print heads, and also developed software for
telecommunications. Price noted that it was unrelated to construction, but felt the skills he
learned in the various fields were applicable to the construction industry such as program
management and coordination of activities.
Lee noted that Price also passed the ICC Residential Contractors Exam. Price said the exam was
required for Loveland and Denver. Lee asked Price if he had any pending projects. Price said
yes, although it was in the County for a deck which included structural work. Price felt the key
issue was understanding the structural aspects, which he felt his previous experience provided.
Price stated that he would be willing to apply for waivers as jobs came along.
Carr asked staff if Price submitted copies of the Denver and Loveland licenses. Lee replied he
has not received actual copies, but the Appellant provided license numbers. Price said he would
be willing to provide copies of the licenses. Lee noted that the Board could consider Price's
education, and asked if Price had verification of his status as an engineer. Price said yes, and
that he could provide his diploma.
Massey asked Price if he has ever worked for a consulting company design HVAC systems, etc.
Price said no.
Price made his closing statements. Lee made his closing statements. Lee read out of the City
Code, Section 15-156: "that the Board was authorized upon appeal in specific cases to grant
variances from the terms of this article where the strict application of any provision of this article
would result in peculiar or exceptional practical difficulties, or exceptional or undue hardship
upon the person or the applicant or when such applicant can demonstrate to the satisfaction of the
Board that the Applicant posses other qualifications not specifically listed in the article such as
specialized training, education, or additional experience which the Board has determined
qualifies the Applicant to perform in a competent manner any construction authorized under the
license or certificate sought and provided that such relief may be granted without substantial
detriment to the public good and without substantially impairing the intent and purpose of this
article."
Massey made a motion to approve the Appellant's request for a D2 license. Massey noted
Price's education was equivalent to the experience requirement for a Class D2 license. Massey
liked that Price had structural experience and that he has performed finish work on larger
projects that those required to meet the D2 criteria. Fielder amended Massey's motion to include
that Price is licensed in several other jurisdictions. Massey agreed to add Fielder's amendment.
Carr seconded the motion.
Vote:
Yeas: Little, Jones, McCoy, Fielder, Massey, Smilie, and Carr.
Nays: None.
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Other Business
Lee provided Board Members with a handout that he prepared based on the information that was
obtained from E-Star of Colorado. It was an update on the energy analysis demonstrating the
impacts of the shift from the current code to the proposed IRC. The Board previously voted on
the adoption of the IRC and endorsed it without the radon component. Lee noted that it has been
difficult to get the analysis data from E-star of Colorado due to busy schedules. He explained
that E-star used the DOE engine to perform their ratings on homes and then a computer analysis
with multiple variables using a standard base model home (two-story, 1000 square feet) to come
up with their figures. Lee referenced a bar chart that was a graphic representation of the matrix.
Lee reiterated that the Board has previously voted on this, but wanted to provide the Board with
updated information.
Lee reviewed the information on the chart (Attachment A). Lee noted that the graph was based
on a standard prescriptive approach. Lee emphasized that half of the current plan reviews were
prescriptive and the other half were energy rated. Lee felt that the amount of energy rated homes
would grow.
Little asked why Alternative A was more productive than Alternative B. Fielder stated that there
were two different things because one had no basement insulation and one reduced the wall
insulation on the house. Alternative A has R18 insulation. Lee stated that under the current
proposal one could choose Alternative A, B, or have the home energy rated.
Lee reviewed the Bar Chart (Attachment B). Lee stated that he was looking for discussion
regarding the updated numbers. McCoy asked staff if the homebuilders had come back with
questions or concerns. Lee said the Board was the first public body to view the new data, but he
planned on meeting with HBA and the Code Committee.
Smilie asked if the chart included radon. Lee said the chart did include radon, but the current
base model did not include radon. The Board was satisfied with their previous decision to
support the IRC package with amendments, excluding mandatory radon.
Lee noted that there was an effort on part of the HBA to have the contractor license regulations
reviewed, specifically basement finish and interior remodel contractors. A task group will be
formed in September.
Meeting adjourned at 2:30 p.m.
Felix Lee, BuilZoning Director
Charles Fielder, Chan erson