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CITY OF FORT COLLINS
SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD
MINUTES: Meeting held November 12, 2003
Chairperson — Mike Buderus — 970-215-5413
Staff Liaison — Barbara Schoenberger — 970-224-6026
City Council Liaison — Ray Martinez, Mayor — 970-221-6506
Attendance:
Mike Richardson
Bud Herin
Eileen Hendee
Chris Bartlett
John Smith
C. Dean Miller
Jim Downey
John Roberts
Dianne Heath
Excused Absence:
Mike Buderus
Darren Gunn
Other Absence:
James Downey
Guests:
Tom Frazier, City of Fort Collins, Transfort/Dial-A-Ride
Marlys Sittner, City of Fort Collins, Transfort/Dial-A-Ride
Kay Rios, Dial -A -Ride Advisory Committee
James Voorhies - CSU Student
Molly Campsey - CSU Student
Liaison:
Ray Martinez, Mayor
Staff:
Barbara Schoenberger
Karen Bryner
I. Call Meeting to Order:
Vice Chairperson, Mike Richardson called the meeting to order at 1:34 p.m.
II. Citizen Participation:
❖ Two CSU students attended the meeting to observe.
❖ Tom Frazier, General Manager of Transfort/Dial-A-Ride & Marlys Sittner, Operation
Manger for Transforb'Dial-A-Ride and Kay Rios, Dial -A -Ride Advisory Committee
attended the meeting to answer questions about proposed fee increases for elderly and
disabled riders.
Tom Frazier explained that on November 18, 2003 they will be taking to the City
Council the purposal for fares. The fare increase will impact both the fixed route
systems for large buses and the Dial -A -Ride systems. The Senior Advisory Board
had provided some feed back in the last couple years to the council.
Marlys said there will be some night service fixed routes that will be going away in
January mainly in the CSU area, however, they may impact seniors as well, they are
routes 61, 62, and 63. This routes will be replaces with route 64. Marlys showed a
map that route 64 will cover an area from CSU Transit Center up to the downtown
area and then back to CSU with a loop out to Overland Trail on Elizabeth and back in
on Prospect. This will offer 45 minute service and run Sunday through Saturday.
Mike Richardson asked which areas 61, 62, and 63 would cover that 64 does not.
Marlys said the other areas that were covered were down at the south part of town,
i.e. the Mall area. This route design was based on the information from Leadership of
ASCSU, they indicated they were interested in serving the Library on campus,
downtown area and some major student housing areas. They do pay for this route
100%.
John Roberts asked what the rate increase would be, Marlys passed around a sheet of
paper showing the fare increase. There will be a 25 % increase so a $1.00 regular
fare will go up to $1.25, the senior and disables fare which has been .50 will go up
.60. This would also impact some of the passes, for example we have a senior and
disabled annual pass at $19.00, the purposal is that this pass will go up to a $25.00
cost.
Bud Herin asked why 17yrs and younger ride free? Marlys explained that the reason
that was set up was to make sure young people in the community grew up using the
bus. This was done in hopes that they would continue using the bus into their adult
lives.
Mike Richards told about meeting with the Senior Council last month with an open
discussion. Bill Benton brought up the problem of elderly people living around the
CSU campus being afraid to ride the buses because of the trauma caused by CSU
students. It has been found out that it isn't the CSU students causing the problem it is
the 17 yrs and under. The board feels that if the Jr. High and High School age riders
were charged a fee they would appreciate it more. Marlys said they have heard this
complaint before and do take it into consideration. One of the things they have done
is communicate with other transport systems who do have fares for this age group and
have found out that this age group is a challenge. There are measures in place where
we do work with the discipline area issue. All drivers are given a training on how to
deal with people of that age and the different disciplinary problems, we also work
very closely with the administrations of the Jr. Highs and High School as well as the
school resource officers. Biggest area is currently around the Lincoln Junior High,
and currently there is a police officer set up a work station within the downtown
Transit Center. His presence has been very helpful in the behavior problems in the
Transit Center. Whenever there are incidents in the bus, the police officer is there to
greet them as they exit the bus.
Mike Richardson - Mr. Benton mentioned that Loveland has a process on their Colt
System where they have older college age or young singles that wear some kind of
identification vest and ride the buses to help in that situation. Marlys said she is
familiar with that program, it is referred to as the Ambassador Program. There is not
a program of this nature in place, however, there are a couple things offered one is the
travel training and supervisors who ride the buses quite frequently. Mr. Benton
suggested approaching CSU to provide Ambassadors to ride buses during the peak
times when the youth might be creating a problem for the elderly. Marlys said she
thinks that is a good idea and they could certainly pursue that especially with the
ASCSU.
Tom Frazier asked how could they get seniors to ride the bus more often verses riding
Dial -A -Ride? Dianne Heath said there are many reasons, mainly because everything
has moved south except the bus routes. They can't get to the Social Security Office,
can't get to the Harmony Campus, so of course their going to use transportation that
will get them where they need to go. John Roberts thanked them for putting the bus
routing on the bus stop, but secondly a lot of the seniors do not know where the buses
go or where the routes are, John suggested putting that information in some
publications monthly, maybe Coloradoan. There use to be bus routes in the south
they weren't used much at that time, however, there is so much more out there and it
would be useful to experiment with a route. Mike Richardson - It would it also make
sense to look at the rate difference. Tom said they could ride the bus for $19.00 a
year.
Mike Richardson suggested approaching PVH as well as the medical societies to help
do a funding of a mini route rather than having it being the City problem. Tom - the
last 2 years we have posted a forum for about 40 businesses along the Harmony
Corridor and talked to them about what they would like to see, the Drs all rent. The
basic result was we identified the kind of service they would like to see. There are
Federal dollars available and we would apply for that if we could get the local match
from this group and we were able to identify about 1/3 of the local match, the other
2/3's the economy was down. The Harmony Corridor's route was the last route
dropped because the finances said they had to drop it. It is the first route we have
recommended and we have it in for request for 2004 for special funding
considerations.
Bud Herin - When Mayor Martinez talked to us he brought up some cost that sounded
way out to us. We were suppose to get a report back on the break down of
$300,000.00 to establish that route plus and driver and bus on top of that. Tom - It
cost to put a bus and a driver 12 hrs a day, 6 days a week it runs $200,000.00 a year.
John Roberts - route to south/east is very important to seniors also advertising routes
and times.
Barbara Schoenberger read letter in response to agenda items and funding issues for
next year. Senior transportation was in both letters. Some highlights were
transportation for the elderly independent and in their homes longer. They believe
that para transit services are more important than bus services because of fear and
uncertainty with a population that has never used the bus to any great extent and no
amount of publicity and no amount of accommodation is going to change that.
Kay Rios - Showed a map everything outside the blue area is going to come for an on
RFP request purposal for an outside contractor to pick up. Two things that occurred
when John Fishbach present the budget to council it had $88,500.00 less for Dial -A -
Ride based on summery survey on what the ridership was costing in that area out side
the blue. John has cut out the $88,500.00 and council is at the point of leaving it that
way. That is for 1 year coverage in that outlined area, however, there are two things
1) the RFP will be going out in 2 wks, and they hope to have a contract in place by
the end of February. January and February which are not covered, so they need to
find money within their budget to cover these 2 months. The second part is we have
been there before, Shamrock did provide the service and there were some horrendous
issues.
Kay is writing a letter from Dial -A -Ride Advisory Committee saying they want 3
people from their board on that RFP group also a member of the SAB board and also
someone from the Commission of Disability.
Marlys explained the different fares, the Foxtrot is the original route connecting Fort
Collins and Loveland and we are an equal partner in that operation of the provision of
funds for that route with the city of Loveland and Larimer County. All three are
equal partners and some Federal dollars are received as well. There is not enough
money received from the fare box to off set the cost of providing this service and so
an open house on the night service route is being held, all the partners wanted to take
a look at what the public would say in regards to raising the fares on the fixed route.
No decision has been made at this time.
Kay encouraged SAB to keep after the Coloradoan to include senior issues.
III. Approval of Minutes:
Correction to the minutes are page 2 under new business Outreach meetings - Eileen
Hendee is not doing it. Last sentence Dean will contact Collinwood for next month and
then a schedule for 2004 will be set. Back page Future planning for increase in older
adults, this should read increase in numbers of older adults. Adjournment was made by
Chris Bartlett.
John Roberts made a motion to accept minutes as corrected, Bud Herin second the
motion. Minutes of October 8`h were accepted.
IV. Correspondence:
❖ Letter from John Fishbach to John Roberts regarding senior transportation needs in
Fort Collins. Also a letter from Mayor Ray Martinez thanking John Roberts for his
letter.
V. New Business:
A. Boards and Commissions Appreciation Reception 2003 will be held on Friday,
November 14, 2003 at the Lincoln Center. Everyone should RSVP
B. Public Open House - regarding fee increases for transportation services.
C. New member orientation in January, 2004, this is when members are taken to lunch
and explained responsibilities of being on the board. It was decided that there wasn't
an orientation done in 2003. Everyone agreed to taking new board members to lunch
January 71h.
VI. Old Business:
A. Bridging the Gap — was a very positive event. Next year it will be the last Friday in
September, Loveland will be hosting possibly at the Budweiser event center. Board
feels that Jim Downey should be recognized because of the outstanding job he has
done in organizing the event.
B. 2003 Mayor's Award — Commission on Disabilities was discussed. The SAB
nominated Rick Aulino. Rick was a worthy applicant and well deserved recognition.
C. Letter regarding concerns at Parklane - Bud Herin talked to Bonnie McFael who runs
the office and she has not had any positive reports. Bud feels that a letter shouldn't be
sent because it should be between residents and management. It was decided that a
letter will not be sent.
D. Thumbs Up for crosswalks at Oakbrook I and II - Thanks was given to Jim Downey
for writing letter to the Coloradoan regarding crosswalks at Oakbrook I and II.
E. Update on transportation presentation - John Smith - John and Mike will meet on this
F. Letter to City Council re: property on Shields and Raintree - Dianne Heath - Barbara
wrote a letter
G. Wheeler Realty Proposal (21/2 acres) - Bill O Neil called asking to be put back on
SAB agenda for discussion by this board. Bill and John Fishbach are suppose to be
meeting to discuss taking it back before the City Council. It the units will sell for 180
to 220 John Fishback will endorse it along with the Mayor.
H. Update on senior survey/questionnaire - Dean Miller- Met with representative of
Office of Adaptive Recreation survey done that looks very good and the process they
went through in developing the questionnaire, they are willing to work with SAB. It
will take a year to put together.
I. Holiday Social plans - Eileen Hendee - Holiday Social will be at Eileen's house on
December 10`h from 4p.m. to 7p.m. Everyone should bring finger food.
J. Retreat Plans 2004 with Tess Heffernan - Barbara Schoenberger.- Will be held Jan.
141h from 12p.m. to 5p.m. at the Senior Center. Dianne Heath read the letter. Bud
Herin made a motion to sign the letter and send, everyone agreed.
K. 2004 Work Plan - Eileen Hendee - Los Ancianos will be taken out along with
Channel 9 Health Fair. Under communication educate City Council on future needs
of an aging community and put in coordination the facilitate the communication
among the senior agencies regarding transportation. Bud Herin made a motion to
submit, John Roberts seconded the motion - motion passes.
L. 2003 Annual Report - Dean Miller - Dean asked each member to go through the 2003
work plan listing each activity for each item. Dean will be responsible for putting
everything together and drafting a copy. Dean also encouraged the board to keep a
running record. Another objective is to demonstrate to the City Council and Mayor
that we are involved in a number of senior issues.
M. Outreach plans for 2004 - SAB will meet with Aspen Club Friday, February 6"' at
5:15p.m. in the cafeteria at PVH. Dean Miller will schedule a meeting with
Collinwood in April or May. Bud contacted Good Samaritan but had conflicts with
all dates. The luncheon between Senior Center Council and Senior Advisory Board
will be a standard thing. Bridging the Gap will be in September. John Roberts
suggested that before SAB meets with Transportation, everyone should ride Transfort
to get experience and more knowledge of what seniors go through.
N. Review 2003 Work Plan -
James Boorhies, CSU student asked for clarification of the Endowment Fund. Barbara
explained the Friends of the Senior Center
VI. Liaison Reports
A. Senior Center — Bud Herin — went over events for November.
B. Red Cross — John Robert's - All Red Cross are in trouble financially. One way they
are trying to raise funds is next Saturday (Nov. 22) at the Eagles game at the
Budweiser Entertainment Center tickets sales will be given to Red Cross.
C. Office on Aging -Dean Miller - The State of Colorado has become more restrictive
which henders the services given. The City Plan requires high density and is
restricting in allowing small one level buildings, which is what you need as you grow
older. Mike suggested Dean bringing this up during the work session.
D. Letter regarding Mike Buderus - Mike Richardson - Letter was signed and mailed.
Holiday Party will be December 10, 2003 at Eileen Hendee's house, everyone should bring an
appetizer to share
VIL Adjourn — John Smith made a motion to adjourn meeting; Bud Herin seconded the
motion. Motion passed. Meeting was adjourned
Karen Bryner, Recording Secretary