HomeMy WebLinkAboutTelecommunications Board - Minutes - 06/08/2004TELECOMMUNICATIONS BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
***June 8, 2004***
*** 6:00 PM ***
Council Liaison: Kurt Kastein Staff Liaison: Liz Stroh
Chairperson: Curt Cramer Phone: 482-9822 (H)
Members Present: Larry Bontempo, David Heiberg, Herb Saperstone, Curt Cramer,
Chip Cushman, Robert Reichenberger
Absent: Tim Tillson
Guest: Ken Fellman of Kissinger and Fellman, outside counsel for
franchise renewal project.
City Staff Gary Gordier, Kraig Ecton, Eric Dahlgren, Liz Stroh
Chair Curt Cramer called the meeting to order at 6:00
Minutes:
Herb Saperstone made a motion to approve the minutes, seconded by David Heiberg
Motion was passed unanimously.
Franchise Needs Assessment
Herb Saperstone asked how the recommendations in the report regarding an
Institutional network might be implemented in Fort Collins. Ken explained how other
City's have used an I -Net, recognizing that the City has a slightly different scenario
because of the PRPA fiber loop to which most Fort Collins governmental and
educational organizations are connected.
Chip asked if Comcast had seen a copy and suggested that one be sent, since some of
the survey information would give them important information regarding customer
satisfaction.
Herb asked about the term of the franchise. He explained that the Board is interested
in a shorter term. Ken responded that Comcast and most cable companies usually ask
for the maximum length. From the city's perspective — if some of the more significant
requests are not included in the franchise, the term is usually much shorter.
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Ken explained the process for the informal review, and the formal review. Sometimes
cities will grant a short contract if the parties cannot come to an agreement.
Chip asked about cities banding together to have a better negotiating posture. Ken
explained that in the Denver region, there is a consortium called The Greater
Metropolitan Telecommunications Consortium (GMTC). The group formed in the mid-
90's and have used model franchises since. Ken also mentioned that Comcast doesn't
like this approach, and often lobbies cities individually. This approach can also present
problems if the franchises don't come due at the same time. Some cities also have
some special requirements, and others do not, so a model franchise might or might not
be beneficial, depending on the circumstances.
Herb asked about franchise fees, and how the fees are determined. Ken explained that
a franchise agreement contains a definition of gross revenues, and that cities typically
ask for the maximum allowed under FCC regulations — which is 5%. Some revenues
are excluded — particularly revenue from high speed internet services. This is due to a
ruling by the courts that data is not a "cable service". The other revenue source that
Comcast usually wants to exclude is launch fees. This is the money paid to Cable
companies to promote the programs on their system. Comcast's stance it that those
fee should not be included in the definition of gross revenues.
Given that franchise fees are for use of City rights of way, Herb wondered why
revenues from data related services could not be included. Ken explained about State
law 10-96 which does not allow cities in Colorado to impose franchise requirements on
telecommunications services.
The Board discussed the recommendations previously made to City Council. The Chair
asked if members had any changes to suggest. Members agreed that the
recommendations would stand, with the addition of a fourth, that of Customer Service
Standards. Ken explained that the FCC had customer services standards, but that
cities were allowed to have standards that were stricter if desired. The Board
expressed interest in working with staff on customer service standards. Ken explained
the plan was to draw up the customer service standards separately from the franchise
agreement. Council would adopt standards at the same time as the franchise
agreement ordinance. The standards can then more easily be amended should
changes be needed.
In response to a question about customer service standards for high speed internet
access, Ken said the question is still open at the Federal level. He also explained that
any customer service standards for Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) would fall under
the review of the Public Utilities Commission (PUC)
David Heiberg asked about recent trends in negotiations with Comcast. Ken explained
that Comcast is reluctant to do an a la carte system because the per subscriber cost
varies between programs. Comcast is also opposed to Public Access because it uses
bandwidth that could be used for revenue generating services. The company is also
opposed to requirements that would increase the subscriber bill, like PEG access fees.
Chip asked about including "state of the art" language regarding technical capacity. He
pointed out that Comcast is likely to improve systems in response to market demands.
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Ken explained that the company would tend to put new technology in larger markets,
and without provisions in the franchise, the upgrades might be delayed for this area..
Herb also wanted to include some requirements that would have Comcast continue to
support existing governmental and education programming. Ken explained that a
recent change in the law restricts what city's can ask for in this area. Cable companies
are required to provide bandwidth, and any other provisions are based on terms of the
franchise that vary from city to city. The extensive use of the current governmental and
educational channels provides a sound basis for franchise requirements in that area
Chip asked about getting another company to come to Fort Collins. Ken explained that
about the only way to do that is to deny the franchise, which would lead immediately to
litigation.
Curt asked about Qwest getting into the cable business. Ken's information on that topic
was that Qwest decided not to do it as it would not be profitable. Other possibilities for
alternative cable service include "limited area" franchises where companies provide all
telecommunications services in a new development. There are also OVS companies
that can provide cable service, but must make 2/3 of their bandwidth available.
Curt also brought up that the technical report in the Needs Assessment noted that the
numbers of houses served are higher than the standard. Curt was concerned that this
would result in slower service. Ken mentioned that other franchises have specified the
number of houses per node.
Ken briefed the Board about the next steps in the negotiation process. Two to three
half day meetings will be set with Comcast to review the proposal and eliminate as
many issues as possible. By the end of summer, the more difficult issues will have
been identified. He explained that the Board will be advised of progress, and when and
if major disputes arise, the Board will be asked for their input.
Curt asked Liz to contact Council Member Kastein, the Council Liaison, and ask for a
meeting date sometime in August so the Board can discuss this further.
Public Access
Herb explained that he and Chip had met, but had not yet been in contact with the
citizen group interested in Public access. Ken advised the Board that a non-profit to
run the Public Access organization was the best approach. The City would want the
right to audit financial records, but better not to have council members on the Board of
the non profit because of potential First Amendment issues
Adjourn
Chip Cushman made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Herb Saperstone. The motion
passed unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 7:30.
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