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GENERAL EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT COMMITTEE
May 1, 2003, MEETING MINUTES
Mayor Ray Martinez
Approved June 5, 2003
COMMITTEE Susan Lehman, Chair, 221-6813 Dottie Nazarenus, 204-4429
MEMBERS Michele Hays -Johnson, 416-2158 Jim O'Neill, 221-6779
PRESENT: Bill Switzer, Vice Chair, 221-6713 Alan Krcmarik, 221-6788
OTHERS Pat Kahle (Actuary, Milliman USA)�k
PRESENT: Greg Tempel (City Attorney) I
Debbie Weedman (Human Resources)
Julie Depperman & Ann Wardle (Finance)
CALL TO ORDER: Susan Lehman called the meeting to order at 1:24 p.m. With all
members present, the Committee established a quorum.
PLAN MEMBER COMMENTS: The Committee reserves this place on the agenda to
receive comments from Members of the Plan or the public. Alan Krcmarik asked if
Committee members had received any further comments from Plan Members
regarding the Full-Time/Part-Time proposed Plan change; no comments have been
received. Based on a request from the City Manager, the Committee has scheduled
the proposed Plan change for consideration before Council on June 17.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of the April 3, 2003, meeting were distributed.
Some minor changes were suggested. Bill Switzer moved the minutes be adopted as
corrected, and Jim O'Neill seconded the motion. The Committee approved the
minutes as corrected unanimously (6-0).
DISCUSSION TOPICS
1. Plan Philosophy: There were no comments on Plan Philosophy.
2. Status on Proposed Part -Time Plan Change: Alan reported that the Agenda
Item and Resolution have been prepared and are ready to be presented to City
Council. Alan attached the memo which went to all Plan Members describing the Plan
change. The City Clerk asked if the Committee would like to include the meeting
minutes that discuss the proposed change in the Council packet. The Committee
agreed to add the minutes where the motion was approved to proceed with the Plan
change. Several members of the Committee indicated that they may attend the
Council meeting in support of the proposed Plan change. Ann Wardle will post the
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Council date as a Plan meeting date in case the number of Committee members
attending constitutes a quorum.
3. Monthly Investment Update: Julie Depperman distributed a handout of the
Plan Investment Report for the quarter ended March 31, 2003. There was a year-to-
date market loss for the Plan of 2.7%. The market value of the Plan on March 31,
2003, was $28,060,608. The war with Iraq has been negatively impacting the
economy and the stock markets.
Julie also provided an updated Plan investment report as of April 30, 2003. The report
shows that the market value loss through March has been erased and that the Plan
currently shows a gain of 2.21% year to date. The market value of the portfolio
increased to $29,226,687. She distributed and reviewed the mutual fund quarterly
compliance analysis as of March 31, 2003.
Alan discussed the use of alternative investment vehicles including hedge funds, real
estate investment trusts and overseas debt funds to further diversify the Plan
investments. He asked Pat Kahle what other clients of Milliman USA are investing in
during this time of low interest rates and depressed stock markets. Pat said that real
estate is not uncommon, but that emerging funds and hedge funds are less common
due to their higher risk. Pat said that there are pooled real estate investments both in
mortgages and equities. This would be one more way to diversity. Alan said the
Committee would have to amend the Plan investment policy in order to invest in these
types of products.
Alan said he and Julie attended a pension investment conference and saw a
demonstration of dynamic asset/liability modeling in which assumptions could be
changed and results could be seen immediately. Pat said Milliman USA can also do
that type of modeling. She is currently in the process of modeling another client's
portfolio and suggested that after she has completed that process, she could model
the Plan's portfolio relationship to the plan's liabilities. She will bring an example of
the model to the next meeting along with the types of assumptions used in the
modeling. She can bring the model to a Plan meeting and the Committee can change
assumptions and view results during the meeting. Julie asked that Pat let the
Committee know what the key assumptions are so that they can think about it ahead
of time. Pat said she would need time to estimate the cost of doing modeling and
would provide this cost estimates the next meeting. Alan thought it would make
sense to show how we were once in a very strong financial situation a few years ago
and how it has changed. He thinks 25-30 years to gain back the losses is not
unreasonable.
Jim passed out a flyer on a property for sale by the City. This Utilities Wastewater
enterprise owns the property. Alan said they could rent the water rights, which are
valuable. Michele questioned why the property was abandoned as a sludge disposal
site and suggested a soil analysis for metals contamination would be necessary before
consideration for purchase. Alan volunteered to study the possibility of purchasing
this property as an investment for the Plan. Greg Tempel pointed out that the
Committee should consider the costs and the management associated with owning a
property.
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4. Other Business: The Committee and staff support provided comments to Pat
about the Actuarial Report. She will change Table 6 by removing any Members'
names, and make other minor changes to a couple of other tables. Pat said before
the report can be posted on the City's website, she needs to include some standard
disclaimer language.
Debbie Weedman reported that a Plan Member died on April 9. On April 7, Debbie
talked to him on the phone and told him that his beneficiary would only receive 470/0
of his actuarial equivalent benefit if he died and did not roll his funds over into an
outside qualified plan. The Member died before the paperwork was filed. Greg said
the Member's intentions are not official until the paperwork has been signed and filed.
Greg said the Committee has to follow the provisions of the Plan and that the Member
died without choosing an option in writing. If the Committee chose to change a Plan
provision, the change would need to go before Council. Alan provided an example of
a similar situation that occurred a few years ago. He recommended that the
Committee needs to follow the Plan and that there is a danger when exceptions are
made for one individual. Bill agreed that the right decision is the legal one. While the
entire Committee felt empathy and expressed their concern for the family's situation,
the Committee determined that the appropriate action is to follow the provisions of
the Plan. Alan moved the Committee deny the request to base a retirement
distribution on verbal instructions as Debbie outlined and said the Committee
expressed its sincere condolences but cannot act outside of the Plan. Bill seconded the
motion, which passed unanimously (6-0).
S. Review of Actuary: The Committee is required to review the performance of the
Plan's actuary on an annual basis. Alan asked Pat if she had any comments on the
relationship between Milliman USA and the Committee and whether there is anything
the Committee could improve upon. Pat said she has never seen a municipality
conduct monthly meetings, the norm is quarterly or annual meetings. Pat also noted
that she has not experienced any barriers in getting the information required to
complete projects assigned to the actuary, such as the Actuarial Report and the
Personal Retirement Planning Statements. Pat left the meeting at about 3:15 p.m.
Jim said he will not be at the June 5 meeting but that the Committee needs to
determine if it wants to renew the contract with Milliman USA. The Committee agreed
that Milliman USA has been able to meet deadlines and is performing at acceptable
levels. Jim will make sure that the actuary provides up -front cost estimates if the
Committee asks the actuary to perform tasks outside the scope of the contract. Alan
moved that the Committee renew the actuarial contract for another year; Susan
seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously (6-0).
Adjournment: There being no further business, the Committee adjourned at 3:24
p.m.
TOPICS FOR NEXT REGULAR MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Committee will be on June 5, 2003, at 1:15 p.m. in
the Council Information Center of City Hall. The tentative agenda includes:
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Plan Member Comments
Approval of Minutes
Plan Philosophy
Status on Proposed Part -Time Plan Change
Monthly Investment Update
Other Business
GENERAL EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT PLAN WEB PAGE: The General Employees'
web page can be found at www.fcgov.com/cityclerk/retirement.pho. The Committee's
2002 Annual Report, 2003 Work Plan, and monthly minutes are available at this site.
2003 Meeting Schedule:
The regular meeting time for the Committee is at 1:15 p.m. on the first Thursday of
each month. The regular location is the Council Information Center at City Hall. For
2003, the Committee has scheduled the meetings as shown below:
januar-y-9 April3 July 10 October 2
FebFuaFy § Play 1 August 7 November 6
Mafeh 6 June 5 September 4 December 4
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