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MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
AIR QUALITY ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
281 N. COLLEGE AVE.
July 25, 2000
For Reference: Eric Levine, Chair 229-5225
Scott Mason, Council Liaison 226-4824
Brian Woodruff, Staff Liaison 221-6604
Board Members Present
Nancy York, John Schroeer, Eric Levine, Linda Stanley, Chris Kavanaugh, Mandar Sunthankar
Board Members Absent
Harry Edwards, Raymond Sons, Jim Dennison
Staff Present
Natural Resources Department: Brian Woodruff, Terry Klahn, Sarah Fox
Transporation: Susanne Durkin, Ray Moe, Tom Raff
Guests
Matt Dixon
Everett Bacon, LSA Associates
Dirk Draper, LSA Associates
The meeting was called to order at 4:35 p.m.
Minutes
With the following changes, the minutes of the June 27, 2000 meeting were unanimously
approved:
Page 5, 4`h bullet from bottom: Change "voluntary" to "involuntary", and "your rights end
where your noise begins" to "your rights end where my nose begins".
Review and Update Action List
1. Provide info about the 25 July Council study session on Land Use Patterns - Done
2. Experience of other cities in controlling diesel construction vehicles - Done
3. Information in packet on anti -smoking campaigns in other communities — Done (handout)
4. Information about Council Community Dialogue — Done
5. Contact Mike Byrne about siting of public buildings — Pending (Eric Levine)
Review Council six-month planning calendar
Sept. 12: Mason Street Transportation Corridor Master Plan
Sept. 26: Population Growth Review Process Analysis
FY 2001 Budget Discussion
Oct. 3: Mason Street Transportation Corridor Master Plan
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Regarding Council's September 26, 2000 budget discussions the board unanimously (6-0) passed
the following motion.
Move the chair craft a memo to City Council, prior to the September budget study session, urging
that they not take away already constrained TransFort funds.
Agenda Planning
August: Climate Wise Campaign Results
September: Mason Street Corridor Plan
Short Discussion Items
• Holnam Update — Eric Levine received a letter from Steve Roy saying he technically cannot
represent the board on the task force, but can report back to the board. Also, he will not be
indemnified against possible legal action.
• Radon regulation re -review — Woodruff distributed a letter from Sarah Fox addressed to
citizens interested in radon regarding the process of this review.
• LUTRAQ Update — The staff team is putting together work plans for five projects aimed at
improving the way the City reduces VMT growth. Council Health & Safety committee will
review in early September.
• Stanley: Due to the fact that I'm new to the board I'm not clear on where the board has been,
regarding the secondhand smoke issue. As far as City Council taking a look at what they can
cut, what are the- priorities? Some people feel passionate about this issue. In terms of
programs, and allocation of staff time and money is the secondhand smoke issue really a
priority? Is there anything we can do, or is this issue too big for us? While diesel pollution
and exhaust are things that are involuntarily breathed, why are we focusing on secondhand
smoke.
• Schroeer: Many of the recipients of secondhand smoke are children. They are highly
impacted and usually don't have a choice. Adults have the choice of leaving, but that's not
the case with kids.
• Stanley: Most of their exposure is in the home. I'm not saying I'm for or against, I'm just
asking what the priorities are. How will resources be allocated?
• Woodruff: The most important way we have of prioritizing issues is the Air Quality Action
Plan. It's adopted every four years by Council, and contains significant prioritization. The
plan will be updated two years from now, with minor revisions made this fall and spring.
• Levine: Much of what we do is based on land use patterns, and especially transportation
patterns. Smoking is directly in our sights, if we don't address it and are non -active there's
really no other group who will. In public places it is a worker safety issue. You can chose
not to go in, but people have a right to a safe workplace.
• Stanley: I want to get the most bang for the buck. That's what's important. Where can we
make the biggest steps with the resources we have?
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Mason Street Corridor, Susanne Durkin
Susanne Durkin said there will be an Open House on Saturday, August 26, 2000. We're
encouraging community participation and want people to have an opportunity to speak their
piece.
Everitt Bacon, LSA Associates, briefly reviewed the air quality components of the plan that were
included in the packet materials. The year 2020 was chosen as the build out year. Some projects
are expected to come on line sooner.
Discussion
• Levine: I would be more comfortable with 2010 as the year of analysis. You wouldn't see as
big of numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised if the results were similar.
• York: When will it be completed? We have funding through 2005. We're trying to get
financing that would pay for the bike/ped portion also. My preference would be 2005, but I
feel safe saying 2010.
• Stanley: How much will this cost in the end? Our preliminary analysis shows fifty to sixty
million on the transit side, and approximately 6.5 million on the bike/ped piece. We're not
firm on enhancements and amenities.
• Stanely: Based on the "person hours" reduction you'll have a really favorable benefits to cost
ratio. And, don't forget about the air quality benefits.
• York: With the central business district being described as downtown, the collector streets
are going to be the most heavily impacted. And, it is my impression that in the non -
attainment area, the express ways are the ones that take the biggest hit by increased traffic. If
the model is accurate, the VMT on collector streets actually goes down, from 253,000 to
251,000.
• Levine: As far as air quality there is a benefit to all of the criteria.
• York: The inconsistency is there's an increase in the VMT on collectors, but the congestion
delay goes down and free flow vehicle hours increases. It's an aggregation of a bunch of
different links.
Included in the packet is one sheet about alternative bus technologies.
Dinner Break — 20 minutes
Second-hand smoke ordinance, Sarah Fox
Kavanaugh: What is the current ordinance? The current ordinance requires restaurants that
have a seating capacity greater than thirty to provide a designated separate non-smoking
area. Plus, employers must provide smoke free work areas if requested by employees.
Sunthankar: I've noticed over the years that the number of offices that have a smoke free
environment is substantially increased.
Stanley: How outdated is our ordinance compared to cities similar to Fort Collins? In 1986
the ordinance was very progressive. California now has a state law, as well as New York. I
had a call from a man in Flagstaff who said they passed their smoke free ordinance eight
years ago.
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• Stanley: Not including bars, how many restaurants are voluntarily smoke free? Fifty-three
percent of our restaurants are smoke free, and 92% of businesses are smoke free.
• Levine: Many years ago OSHA started regulating work place toxins. Certainly this should
be on the list. I'm confused why no workers have gone after this.
• Woodruff: There is history with flight -attendant suits. They were instrumental in making
the airlines smoke free.
• Levine: I would think the risk assessment of second hand smoke in bars is much higher than
a lot of the chemicals the EPA strictly regulates.
• Kavanaugh: Government is in our lives enough. When you look at the direction of this
trend, I question the need for the City to step in with another ordinance. It's happening by
itself, why do we need another law?
• Levine: The greatest bang for the buck is an ordinance. Education can cost a lot, and the
effectiveness can only be measured after some amount of time passes. An ordinance is
across the board, it's fair. I would be for a regulation like this, it's a public health issue.
• Stanley: This is a very complex issue for me. People do voluntarily chose their jobs. An
economist would say, if there's a demand it will happen, it there's no demand it won't
happen. But there is the issue of public health. I have a hard time coming down on one side
or the other.
• York: I wonder if the bar owners could be surveyed. Ask if they would prefer an ordinance,
or be required to provide a ventilated non-smoking area. We should try to get their feelings
about it.
• Levine: Owners of clubs are going to be most opposed to anything that requires them to
spend money.
• Woodruff: It's interesting that in Boulder, where all the bars and restaurants are smoke free,
business is booming.
• Fox: In Boulder they had very strong enforcement the first couple of years. However, if you
go to bars today there are a few places in which people are still smoking secretly. But, the
majority of Boulder went smoke free or closed.
• Stanley: Will you get the most opposition from bars. People aren't in restaurants for a very
longtime. Yes, and bingo parlors and bowling alleys.
• Fox: Someone suggested taking an out an ad in the Coloradoan that lists all of the smoke free
establishments in town.
• York: I like the idea of a market analysis, and the publicity of smoke free facilities.
• Woodruff. Do you think money from the tobacco settlements could be used for a market
analysis? We could apply for the money.
• Fox: It's important to offer cessation assistance. It's available on a rolling scale, there are
free nicotine patches. Between Poudre Health Services and the County it's there, but it
hasn't been advertised very well.
• Schrooer: It seems to me we're going after the backend of the problem. We should be going
after the younger kids that are just starting to smoke.
• Woodruff: The Coalition for Smoke Free Kids and communities says we are teaching our
youngsters to smoke when they see it in public places.
• Schroeer: When we see a fifteen year old kid with a cigarette why can't we fine them? Why
don't we go to the point where the problem is?
• York: We're in a non -enforcement society.
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• Stanley: As far as an ordinance, is political capital expended to do something that may not
have as great a benefit as spending that capital on something else. I would love for it to be
smoke free everywhere. It may be worth it in the end, but is this the time and place to doing
it?
• York: I hate it when you have to pass through people on their smoke breaks.
• Fox: Bars are permitted smoking areas no matter what their numbers.
Eric Levine said they would have the discussion regarding diesel emissions next month, and
asked members to keep the information included in this month's packet for that discussion.
Nancy York wants the Board to address the issue of vehicles idling unnecessarily.
The meeting adjourned at 7:15.
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ACTION ITEM
WHO
BY...
DONE
L Contact Mike Byme about siting of public
Eric
July
buildings.
2. Send memo to Council reagrding TransFort
Brian, Eric
August
funding... "don't cut it"