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REGULAR MEETING
Wednesday, August 14, 2024, at 5:30 PM
222 Laporte Ave, Colorado River Room
Regular Meeting
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1. CALL TO ORDER: Called to order by Shamera at 5:32 PM
2. ROLL CALL:
a. Board Members Present: Amy Hoeven, Elizabeth Grant, Shamera Loose,
Mike O’Malley, Michael Ruttenberg, Veronica Olivas,
b. Board Members Present Virtually: Melissa Rosas
c. Staff Members Present: Lieutenant Jeremy Yonce, Assistant City Attorney
Sara Arfmann, Sergeant Kim Cochran, Jessica Jones
3. AGENDA REVIEW
4. CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
a. Public Input
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
a. July 10, 2024: Amy Hoeven moved to approve the July minutes, which was
seconded by Michael Ruttenberg. Motion passed.
6. NEW BUSINESS
a. Voicemail: None
b. E-mail: None
c. Training: Critical Incident Response Team:
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Each year, a law enforcement agency is selected as a CIRT lead, which means that the
selected agency will take the lead for that year on any investigations that do not come
from that agency. Their role is to assign a lead agency and investigator. The Manual is
publicly available on the District Attorney’s website. CIRT team is led by the District
Attorney, and all law enforcement agencies in Larimer County are a member of this team
and covered by the CIRT protocol.
Board Member Question: Do you, depending on what the circumstances are,
ever have a reason to reach out to the FBI for help with processing?
FCPS has not done this, historically, but that doesn’t mean that they could not, if
necessary. Amongst the various law enforcement agencies that are a part of the
CIRT team, there is a plethora of skills and resources, so it just hasn’t been
necessary.
Critical incidents are defined as incidents occurring in the Eighth Judicial District,
involving two or more people, in which a police agency employee is involved as an actor,
victim, or custodial officer and where fatal injury or serious bodily injury occurs. So this
includes both officer-involved shootings and also other scenarios where an investigation
needs to be conducted to see if a crime has been committed.
Board Member Question: If an officer is the victim of DV, but they haven’t told
any other officers, but other officers know, do the other officers have to report it?
Is it a crime or a violation if they do not?
Yes, but that requirement is independent of the CIRT protocol. Police employees
are mandatory reporters, so they are required to report things of that nature, but
not because it is a CIRT investigation. The idea behind CIRT investigations is to
take out any possibility of bias that would come from an agency investigating one
of its own employees.
Examples of CIRT investigations include intentional or accidental shootings, assaults on
police employees and volunteers, physical altercations in which the police employee is
acting in a private citizen capacity, etc.
A venue agency is an agency within whose geographical jurisdiction and an involved
agency is the agency with which the involved employee is employed.
CIRT protocol is immediately activated and automatically effective upon the occurrence
of a critical incident, though it may be scaled as appropriate. The Chief can ask for a
CIRT investigation on any case, whether it fits the protocol or not. The involved agency
will not be the lead Investigative or Crime Scene agency, and their involvement will be
minimal. The Administrative Investigation is subordinate to the criminal investigation.
Board Member Question: How long do the presentations to the District Attorney
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typically take?
The most recent one took about an hour and forty five minutes, which is a little longer
than usual, but there were four officers involved. The presentation is a summary and
recap, because the District Attorney is involved throughout the process.
Board Member Question: Is the officer involved allowed to have legal
representation on the scene, or a union representative on the scene?
The criminal investigation is separate from the administrative investigation.
Administrative investigators may be present during the criminal investigation, but
are not asking questions and gathering information at that point. The employee
has different rights in both situations. In the criminal investigation, the employee
has every right that all people would have, not to incriminate themselves, not to do
interviews, so they could choose not to participate. Also in administrative
investigations, we cannot force them to talk to the investigator. Officers frequently
do participate in both the criminal and administrative investigations and they are
welcome to have representation, whether that is an attorney or a representative
from the union. In an administrative investigation, they are under a Garrity
advisement, and if they refuse to cooperate, they are subject to discipline up to
termination; even here, they are allowed to have an attorney, or a representative
from the FOP.
Board Member Question: As an administrator, FCPS may know that an officer is
on medical leave for psychological or mental reasons. Would they share that with
the investigator?
It would depend on the circumstances. Sharing information about an employee
being on medical leave would not violate HIPAA. Many times, when an officer is
on medical leave, their supervisor is unaware of the specific reason. There is a
form that doctors have to fill out that advises of a serious medical condition but
does not go into detail. FCPS would not share that info because they don’t have it.
Board Member Question: In the event that it is a non-police officer Police
employee, would FCPS launch an IA investigation into the incident? And do they
still have Garrity?
Yes. FCPS policies cover everyone in the department, whether they are sworn or
not. So if a non-sworn employee got involved, everything else would still apply:
FCPS would still do a Garrity advisement, they’d still be compelled to talk, FCPS
would still wait to perform the AI until the criminal investigation had completed, etc.
Board Member Question: A lot of the time, this can be a traumatic event and
trauma and stress can speed up time and can sequentially mess things up. Is
there any consideration given to that, if you have the benefit of a camera and can
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compare what they say to what is shown?
FCPS has a very robust program to provide support to employees. FCPS has a
full-time staff psychologist, Peer Support, etc. There is a lot of awareness within
our agency about the stress of these types of investigations on the people
involved. They are also welcome to seek any outside help they need as well. Body
worn cameras can distort distances so that it appears to be a larger distance than
it actually is. Investigators expect there to be differences in what the employee
says and what the camera shows, and they understand it doesn’t mean that the
employee is lying.
Breaks and fractures were removed from the definition of “Serious Bodily Injury”, only so
that it would not automatically trigger a CIRT investigation; however, FCPS would still
engage in a CIRT team consult where they can evaluate what happened and decide if
an investigation is needed. An officer is prohibited from viewing body worn camera video
prior to the interview. Once the initial interview is done, they are given an opportunity to
watch the video, and then if they want to come back to give clarification, they can do
that.
Board Member Question: Are the officers prohibited from wearing a Go Pro and
getting their own recordings?
FCPS does not have a policy that prohibits it, but officers may not want to.
The Investigation Team leads are responsible for all follow up investigations,
canvassing, writing applicable warrants, conducting all critical interviews and preparing
an Investigative Summary Report to present to the DA and CIRT agencies.
The Crime Scene Team is responsible for all crime scene investigations, including
indoor/outdoor crime scenes, interviews at the hospital, ambulance and of medical/fire
personnel, vehicles, involved and witness officers, the suspect, and the autopsy.
Board Member Question: Using the example of the shooting over the weekend
on Remington, where the person is still at large. If the officers apprehend the
suspect and it is an officer-involved shooting, there is the CIRT response.
Because time has passed since the shooting occurred over the weekend, would
that be considered a separate crime scene for CIRT, or would it not even be
involved at all, because too much time as passed?
Yes, because of the passage of time, that earlier crime scene would have already
been processed and released, from the homicide that occurred a few days ago;
however, if it happened more simultaneously, for example, with a shooting in Old
Town, so there is a crime scene there, and then the suspect takes off in a vehicle
and drives 5 miles to the south end of town and exchanges gunfire with Police
there – in that circumstances, the “officer involved” part only occurred in the south
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part of town, and the downtown part would not be handled by the CIRT team.
All public information is released on behalf of the CIRT team, not the individual agency,
which requires a great deal of coordination.
Board Member Question: Is there a statute of limitations for a CIRT
investigation?
It would fall under whatever the statute of limitations is for the crime. If that amount
of time has already passed, there can’t be a criminal investigation, or an
administrative investigation.
Board Member Question: Does FCPS call out PIOs to the scene to deal with
crime scenes? Or are they asked to stay outside until the investigation is done?
It depends. A lot of these investigations occur in the middle of the night, so the
POIs are often back at the office, coordinating with PIOs from other agencies to
decide what info will be put out. If there is press showing up, then FCPS will send
a PIO out there to talk to them. The PIOs are adept at deciding how to provide
what information they can.
2022 had a record number of CIRT investigations, with 10 occurring that year. The
average is less than 4 a year.
Board Member Question: Is the data on CIRT investigations on the DA’s
dashboard? Is it something that they track?
No, it is not on there, because it was put together by FCPS. FCPS cannot speak
to what they track on their end. They may not have a reason to track it, because
they are focused on crime and prosecution.
Board Member Question: Can a person go into the DA’s website today to read
about the decisions issued in the Karen Garner case?
Yes. Some of the CIRT decision letters are still in there, and also available
through other online sources. They are quite detailed and give a lot of information
about what happened.
Board Member Question: If an officer has been involved in 6 CIRT cases, is that
held against them?
If they are found to have violated policy, then they would be held responsible for
that. On the other hand, if an officer is involved in multiple shootings and if they are
cleared criminally and internally, then it means there was no wrongdoing. The fact
that they are confronted with shootings more often doesn’t mean they’ve done
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anything wrong.
Board Member Question: Does FCPS assign officers to certain parts of town and
do they get to rotate out, or do they just go anywhere?
Officers, per the collective bargaining agreement, they pick the area and shift that
they want by seniority. Most officers choose the same area year after year, but it
is their choice.
Board Member Question: Has there ever been any thought given to having a
segment on community engagement at the Police Academy, so that they actually
pick the downtown area because they did a survey with merchants and feel
connected with that community?
FCPS has a robust community policing training, throughout the Academy and it is
engrained in the whole agency. There are many officers who do prefer being
downtown, and others who prefer community policing neighborhoods. Other
officers like to move around.
7. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
8. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS
9. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Jeremy Yonce explains that the board can anticipate receiving information on
an officer-involved shooting to be reviewed. Board members can expect to
receive a notice from either Jeremy Yonce or Kim Cochran informing them
and then the 45-day review period will be tolled once the District Attorney’s
decision letter is received.
b. Elizabeth asks about details for touring facilities. Jeremy explains that board
members can take these tours with up to two members at a time and should
reach out to him to schedule it.
10. ADJOURNMENT: Mike O’Malley moved to adjourn the meeting at 6:31 PM,
which was seconded by Elizabeth. Meeting adjourned.
Approved by a vote of the board on 09/11/2024