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Eric Richards, Chair Council Chambers
Shaun Moscrip, Vice Chair 300 Laporte Avenue, Fort Collins
Gabe Dunbar
Bob Poncelow
Casey Roberts Staff Liaison:
Jeffrey Schneider Marcus Coldiron
Ronnie Zimmerman Chief Building Official
Meeting Minutes
May 30, 2024
A regular meeting of the Building Review Commission was held on Thursday, May 30, 2024, at
9:00 a.m. in person at 300 Laporte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado.
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Richards called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Dunbar, Moscrip, Poncelow, Richards, Roberts, Schneider, and Zimmerman
ABSENT: None
STAFF: Coldiron, Manno, Howell, and Shehan
PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None.
DISCUSSION AGENDA
1. MINUTES OF APRIL 25, 2024
The purpose of this item is to consider approval of the minutes from the April 25, 2024 regular
meeting of the Building Review Commission.
Chair Richards made a name correction to the April 25, 2024 minutes.
Commissioner Poncelow moved to approve the minutes of the April 25, 2024 meeting as
amended. Commissioner Dunbar seconded. The motion passed 7-0.
Building Review
Commission
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2. NATHAN EPPERSON, SKOOKUM CRAFTSMANSHIP, LLC - REQUEST FOR VARIANCE TO THE
PROJECT VERIFICATION REQUIREMENT FOR A NEW LICENSE AND SUPERVISOR’S
CERTIFICATE
DESCRIPTION: Mr. Nathan Epperson of Skookum Craftsmanship, LLC is requesting a variance
to the project verification requirement to obtain a Class D1 license and
supervisor’s certificate.
STAFF: Shar Manno, Manager, Customer Support, Community Development &
Neighborhood Services
Marcus Coldiron, Chief Building Official
Nathan Epperson introduced himself.
Chair Richards outlined the hearing process.
Staff Presentation
Manno stated Mr. Epperson is requesting a variance to the project verifications for a new license and
supervisor’s certificate. Manno outlined Mr. Epperson's denied license request which included
project verifications for projects located in Fort Collins with Kevin Dewlen of FR Development listed
as the principal contractor and supervisor’s certificate holder for the permits. Manno stated the
nature of Mr. Epperson’s association with Mr. Dewlen and the details of these projects remain
unclear. Additionally, Mr. Dewlen’s company’s lack of worker’s compensation coverage and the
absence of recorded employees for FR Development is particularly concerning.
Manno noted the Code’s project verification requirement cannot be filled by relying on projects that
were completed within the city of Fort Collins as the license and supervisor’s certificate themselves
are required to serve as a contractor or project supervisor. Manno stated the staff recommendation
is for denial of the request given the lack of evidence showing experience for the license and
supervisor’s certificate classification being requested. Manno outlined the role of the Commission
and discussed what members should consider in this case. Additionally, Manno discussed Mr.
Dewlen’s history and noted the supervisor’s certificate for Mr. Dewlen expired on June 24, 2023.
Applicant Presentation
Mr. Epperson stated he has been in the residential construction industry for most of his adult life and
discussed his work experience for FR Development from 2013 until 2022. He stated he believed he
followed the instructions for the licensing process properly and noted he passed the G13 exam and
got a residential inspector certification. He stated his purpose in applying for this license is to build
decks, finish basements, complete small additions, and to have the ability to possibly build a custom
home or spec home.
Staff Response
Manno stated Mr. Epperson could be placed into a license classification that may be better suited to
his needs at this time; however, a license cannot be issued based on what Mr. Epperson would like
to do in the future with the information provided.
Applicant Response
Mr. Epperson stated he has worked in Fort Collins his entire life and commented on the Code
requirement for project management outside the city. He stated he went back to the earlier projects
under Mr. Dewlen as he is a respected contractor in the city. Additionally, Mr. Epperson stated his
qualifications are well suited to carry a D1 license.
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Commission Questions/Discussion
Commissioner Dunbar asked Mr. Epperson to describe his daily responsibilities as a supervisor on
the projects he submitted. Mr. Epperson replied he poured footings, measured for support beams,
doublechecked framing, oversaw HVAC contractors, laid out cabinets for the trim contractor, and
made punch lists as appropriate to ensure things were complete for the homeowners.
Commissioner Zimmerman requested Mr. Epperson elaborate on why he provided project
verifications from ten plus years ago and asked why FR Development has stated it never had any
employees. Manno replied the company stated it did not have any employees and noted there is a
requirement to provide a worker’s compensation policy if a company does have employees.
Mr. Epperson stated he chose the projects he did as he has a good relationship with Mr. Dewlen,
who is a respected contractor in the community. He stated he did not use later FR Development
projects as he did not leave the company on the best terms in 2022.
Commissioner Schneider asked Mr. Epperson about his experience with projects prior to permits
being issued in terms of design, budget, and planning. Mr. Epperson replied he was not especially
involved in the planning phase of the projects he submitted, though he feels he has more experience
in that area now.
Commissioner Poncelow asked Mr. Epperson to provide information as to what types of projects he
was doing between 2015 and 2022. Mr. Epperson replied he was still working with FR Development
at that time and was doing miscellaneous improvements on properties owned by the company when
development slowed. He stated he then worked for the City of Fort Collins for a time and now does
small home improvements that do not require a license.
Chair Richards asked Mr. Epperson if he was aware FR Development was not claiming employees.
Mr. Epperson replied in the negative and stated he was hired by the company as an employee in
2014 after being a subcontractor.
Commissioner Dunbar asked Mr. Epperson if he has acted as supervisor on any projects since
2014. Mr. Epperson replied he was heavily involved in several projects but was not necessarily the
primary project manager on those. He stated he was the primary supervisor on an addition project
on Cherokee in 2018.
Commissioner Dunbar noted the Commission has previously granted variances for using projects
within the city of Fort Collins for project verification; however, they are usually more recent. Mr.
Epperson stated he would need to do some research to determine those addresses.
Commissioner Dunbar asked if Mr. Epperson would need to come back before the Commission if he
were to revise his application to include newer project verifications within Fort Collins. Manno
replied in the affirmative noting it still may be difficult to determine whether he is eligible for the D1
license depending on the extent of the projects. Manno concurred that the Commission has
previously granted variances for projects in Fort Collins; however, the circumstances have varied.
Commissioner Roberts requested more detail on Mr. Epperson’s work in a supervisor’s role after the
projects that were provided were completed. Mr. Epperson replied he continued to do the same type
of work for FR Development after Mr. Dewlen left the company; however, those projects were under
different supervisors’ licenses. He stated he was essentially a site superintendent on most of the
projects on which he worked.
Commissioner Zimmerman stated he does not feel comfortable granting a variance with the provided
information and suggested Mr. Epperson resubmit for a license based on more recent work. He also
suggested a D2 license may be more appropriate.
Commissioner Schneider asked Mr. Epperson if he has any licenses with any other jurisdictions or
municipalities. Mr. Epperson replied in the negative.
Commissioner Dunbar concurred with Commissioner Zimmerman.
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Commissioner Roberts encouraged Mr. Epperson to consider submitting projects that were not
completed within Fort Collins.
Commissioner Poncelow also concurred and suggested Mr. Epperson take some time to further
review the work he did on the projects.
Commissioner Roberts made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Dunbar, that the Building
Review Commission deny the request for a variance to City Code Section 15-158(A)(2) finding
based on agenda materials, information presented, and the discussion on the item, and the
strict application of the Code, would not result in peculiar or exceptional practical difficulties
to, or exceptional undue hardship on, Mr. Epperson, and Mr. Epperson failed to demonstrate
that he possessed the other qualifications not specifically listed in City Code Chapter 15,
Article to perform in a competent manner any construction authorized under the class D1
license and supervisor certificate. Furthermore, granting this variance would be a
substantial detriment to the public good and would impair the intent and purpose of Article 5.
Additionally, the Commission suggests that Mr. Epperson review more current work and
provide more detail on those projects in a future license application.
Commissioner Moscrip questioned whether the Commission would rather postpone a decision to
allow for Mr. Epperson to gather more information instead of having to resubmit resulting in
additional fees. Manno replied a new application and fee would not be required, just new project
verifications.
Chair Richards asked if the City places more weight on license holders who are in good standing
adequately licensed within the city for project verifications. Manno replied in the negative and stated
it would be the same process regardless.
Chair Richards noted this decision is appealable to Council.
THE MOTION PASSED 7-0.
(Secretary’s Note: The Commission took a brief recess at this point in the meeting.)
3. MICHAEL PATE, AMAROK FOR MIRANDA CABRERA, AJAX SAFETY AND SECURITY
CONTRACTING, INC. - REQUEST FOR VARIANCE TO THE PROJECT VERIFICATION
REQUIREMENT FOR A NEW LICENSE AND SUPERVISOR’S CERTIFICATE
DESCRIPTION: Miranda Cabrera of AJAX Safety and Security Contracting, Inc. is requesting a
new Class C1(DR) license and supervisor’s certificate to be issued without
project verifications that will qualify for the license classification.
STAFF: Shar Manno, Manager, Customer Support, Community Development &
Neighborhood Services
Marcus Coldiron, Chief Building Official
Michael Pate introduced himself.
Chair Richards outlined the hearing process.
Staff Presentation
Manno noted this application was originally submitted by Miranda Cabrera of Ajax Safety and
Security Contracting requesting that a class C1(DR) license and supervisor’s certificate be issued
without project verifications that qualify for the license classification. Manno noted Ajax offers
commercial battery-charged electric security fence installation and the company has been
contracted to install a commercial electric fence taller than 6 feet in height. Manno stated staff feels
the license classification being sought falls far above what the company does and can qualify for;
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however, there are no other licensing classifications that are suitable and due to the structural
aspects of the project, this licensing classification is necessary.
Manno noted Mr. Pate is appealing the denial of the initial application and is requesting a variance
from the project verification requirement. Manno stated staff is recommending a variance of some
type, either a one-time permit, a 30-day temporary permit, or something similar, and outlined the
items for the Commission to consider.
Applicant Presentation
Mr. Pate stated Amarok is a security company that builds perimeter security systems, which he
described. He noted Ajax is an installation company that Amarok has worked with throughout
Colorado.
Staff Response
Manno stated limiting a license for these types of companies has worked in the past and noted staff
does not have the ability to do that without Commission approval.
Marcus Coldiron, Chief Building Official, stated the Code does not currently provide for a ‘catch-all’
license or the administrative ability to limit a license for these types of niche projects.
Commission Questions/Discussion
Chair Richards asked if there are multiple projects in Fort Collins the company is seeking to
construct. Mr. Pate replied there is only one currently, though there may be more in the future.
Commissioner Moscrip noted the Commission has run across this issue a few times for niche
projects and expressed support for granting a license limited to fencing, not just for a single project.
Commissioner Dunbar asked how Ajax is affiliated with Amarok. Mr. Pate replied Ajax is one of
many third-party installers hired by Amarok allowing it to not have to hold licenses in every
jurisdiction in which it works.
Commissioner Dunbar clarified the variance would then be granted to Ajax.
Commissioner Moscrip asked why Miranda Cabrera is not present representing Ajax. Mr. Pate
replied he did not believe she needed to attend as he is present. Manno also noted staff was aware
she would not be present.
Commissioner Zimmerman made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Dunbar, that the
Building Review Commission grant the requested variance to the prior project requirements
under City Code Section 15-158(A)(2), 15-159(A)(6), and 15-160(A)(6) with respect to Ms.
Cabrera’s application for a class C1 DR license and supervisor’s certificate. This variance is
limited to allowing the issuance of a class C1 DR license solely for the installation of electric
security fences that may be installed under such license. The Commission finds that
granting the variance will not be a substantial detriment to the public good or substantially
impair the intent and purposes of Chapter 15, Article 5, and the strict application of these
Code sections would result in peculiar or exceptional practical difficulties for Ms. Cabrera
because of the limited scope of the work that is being done and the inability of the
Commission under current licensing categories to address these niche cases.
THE MOTION PASSED 7-0.
OTHER BUSINESS
Adam Hirschhorn stated he is working to craft a resilience policy for the City and asked the Commission if
there are any new construction materials about which members are excited and whether there are any
innovative modes of construction the Commission would like to see included. He provided his contact
information for the members.
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ADJOURNMENT
Chair Richards adjourned the meeting at 10:17 a.m.
Minutes prepared by TriPoint Data and respectfully submitted by David Howell.