HomeMy WebLinkAboutBuilding Review Commission - MINUTES - 12/14/2023City of Fort Collins Page 1 December 14, 2023
Alan Cram, Chair Council Chambers
Gabe Dunbar 300 Laporte Avenue
Shaun Moscrip Fort Collins, CO
Eric Richards, Vice Chair
Casey Roberts Staff Liaison:
Mark Teplitsky Marcus Coldiron
Ronnie Zimmerman Chief Building Official
Meeting Minutes
December 14, 2023
A regular meeting of the Building Review Commission was held on Thursday, December 14, 2023, at
9:30 a.m. It was remote only via Zoom.
• CALL TO ORDER
Chair Cram called the meeting to order at 9:32 a.m.
• ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Cram, Dunbar, Moscrip, Richards, Teplitsky, Zimmerman
ABSENT: Roberts
STAFF: Coldiron, Yatabe, Shehan, Matsunaka
• PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None.
• DISCUSSION AGENDA
1. CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 26, 2023 MEETING.
Commissioner Richards moved to approve the minutes of the October 26, 2023, meeting.
Commissioner Teplitsky seconded. The motion passed 6-0.
[Timestamp: 9:03 a.m.]
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2. PROPOSED MIDCYCLE CODE CHANGE: PLUMBING FIXTURE PERMIT EXEMPTION
DESCRIPTION: Staff are requesting a code amendment to exempt toilets and other plumbing
fixture replacements from the permit process due to the following: Colorado
State Plumbers Practice Act doesn’t require permits for this type of work, very
few fixture replacements currently apply for a permit, there are no concerns with
life/safety, and requiring permits create additional barriers and cost impacts to
improving indoor water efficiency.
STAFF: Marcus Coldiron, Chief Building Official
Staff Presentation
Marcus Coldiron, Chief Building Official, provided background on Chapter 5 of the Municipal Code. He
discussed that Chapter 5 requires a permit for the replacement of new fixtures, including new, high
efficiency toilets. Plumbing contractors and the public frequently replace toilets and other fixtures
without first receiving a permit; it is not commonly known that a permit is required. He noted that Staff
believes a permit exemption for this type of activity is warranted; it would not create life/safety issues
and aligns with the state’s requirements. It would also minimize barriers to improved indoor water
efficiency throughout the city.
Mr. Coldiron noted that one example of how the requirement for permits impacts water efficiency is the
County’s Water and Energy program offered through a partnership with Fort Collins Utilities. The
program provides energy efficiency and water conservation assessments and direct installation of
various fixtures and products through the Larimer County Conservation Corp (LCCC). He explained
that this no-cost program includes replacing toilets with high efficiency models (0.8 gallons per flush).
While this program is available to all community members within Fort Collins, the priority is low-income
households to best meet the needs of some of our most vulnerable residents.
He further discussed that every year, LCCC sets goals for home assessments to be completed each
season. For the 2023-2024 season, the goal is to have 150 high efficiency toilets installed within the
Fort Collins Utilities water service area. These toilets are purchased in bulk by LCCC and are installed
by Corp members who have been trained in proper installation techniques.
After becoming aware of the requirement to have a permit and inspection for toilet replacements, it was
deemed to be cost prohibitive to proceed with toilet replacements with this program, costing up to
$9,750 ($65 per permit) per season for permits. The permit cost would not be passed on to individual
households, so City staff would need to determine budget adjustments.
Mr. Coldiron explained that there is significant value in installing high efficiency toilets and fixtures and
educating households on water conservation, not only for cost-savings to the resident, but to continue
to meet the City’s Our Climate Future goals. The proposed code change will also align with the State
of Colorado’s Plumber’s Practice Act.
Mr. Coldiron presented the 2021 IRC and IBC with proposed changes read as follows:
“105.2 Work exempt from permit. Exemptions from permit requirements of this code
shall not be deemed to grant authorization for any work to be done in any manner in
violation of the provisions of this code or any other laws or ordinances of this
jurisdiction. Permits shall not be required for the following:
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Plumbing
1. The stopping of leaks in drains, water, soil, waste or vent pipe; provided,
however, that if any concealed trap, drainpipe, water, soil, waste or vent pipe
becomes defective and it becomes necessary to remove and replace the
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same with new material, such work shall be considered as new work and a
permit shall be obtained and inspection made as provided in this code.
2. The clearing of stoppages or the repairing of leaks in pipes, valves or
fixtures, and the removal and reinstallation of water closets and the repair
and replacement of garbage disposal units and dishwashers directly
connected to the sanitary sewer system, including the necessary
replacement of all tail pipes and traps, or the repair, maintenance, and
replacement of sinks, faucets, drains, showers, tubs, and toilets, provided
such repairs do not involve or require the replacement or rearrangement of
valves or pipes or fixtures.”
[Timestamp: 9:39 a.m.]
Commission Questions and Discussion
Commissioner Teplitsky and Mr. Coldiron discussed the City’s low water usage fixture requirements
and the possibility that individuals could purchase and install a fixture that does not meet requirements.
Mr. Coldiron noted that regardless of whether a permit is required or not, Code states that an individual
is required to meet any laws or ordinances of the jurisdiction. The new fixtures would not be inspected
or verified by the Building Department. However, there is a process in place through the Utilities’ rebate
program that verifies and ensures the correct fixtures are installed.
Commissioner Richards asked for clarification on the total amount of toilet fixtures that are replaced
versus permitted to be replaced. Mr. Coldiron noted that only a tiny number of the toilet fixtures that get
replaced are pulling permits for the installation or replacement. He estimated that less than one percent
(<1%) of toilets replaced are being permitted. He noted that the proposed code change will be
recognizing a trend in the community.
Commissioner Richards and Mr. Coldiron discussed that the proposed code change will be effective
for both commercial and residential buildings.
Chair Cram asked for the Commission to make a motion.
Commissioner Teplitsky moved that the Building Review Commission recommend that City
Council adopt the Chief Building Official’s request to amend the Code, removing the
requirement for a permit for plumbing fixture replacements, such as toilets, faucets, and other
similar work. Commissioner Dunbar seconded. The motion passed 6-0.
[Timestamp: 9:45 a.m.]
• OTHER BUSINESS
Brad Yatabe, Sr. Assistant City Attorney, introduced Madelene Shehan, Assistant City Attorney, who
will be advising the Building Review Commission. Commissioner Richards and Mr. Yatabe discussed
the CAO’s practice of drafting motions and legal memos prior to the meeting.
Chair Cram noted that application process for reapplying for the BRC. Commissioner Teplitsky’s term
expires in March 2024 and indicated he will be reapplying for another term.
• ADJOURNMENT
Chair Cram adjourned the meeting at 9:48 am.
Minutes prepared by and respectfully submitted by Melissa Matsunaka.