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Natural Resources Advisory Board
REGULAR MEETING – November 15, 2023
Location: 222 Laporte, Colorado Room & Zoom: https://fcgov.zoom.us/j/94115567733
6:00 CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL
1. AGENDA REVIEW
2. COMMUNITY MEMBER PARTICIPATION
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – JULY, AUGUST, & SEPTEMBER
4. NEW BUSINESS
6:10 – 6:45 Board Inputs to City Strategic Plan
Review the City’s seven Strategic Outcomes and discuss where NRAB aligns. Discuss Council
priority setting and how strategic plan input can inform. (Discussion)
6:45 – 7:30 Begin update to NRAB 2024 Work Plan
Board Chair to lead work plan update process - due Nov. 30. (Discussion)
5. OTHER BUSINESS / UPDATES
• Board Member Reports
• The final Super Issue Meeting of 2023 will take place on December 4th at the Lincoln
Center in the Columbine Room 5:30PM-7:30PM.
It will be a water-focused meeting and food will be provided
• Boards and Commissions Open House on November 6th at City Hall 5PM-7PM.
• Clarity on current terms and timing of new members, etc.
• Six Month Calendar Review https://www.fcgov.com/cityclerk/planning-calendar.php
• Revisit action items from previous meetings & preview of next meeting
City Websites with Updates:
• Natural Resources Advisory Board webpage: https://www.fcgov.com/cityclerk/natural-resources.php
• Our Climate Future: https://ourcity.fcgov.com/ourclimatefuture
6. ADJOURN
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Natural Resources Advisory Board
REGULAR MEETING
Wednesday, July 19, 2023 – 6:00 PM
222 Laporte Avenue, Colorado River Room
1. CALL TO ORDER: 6:18 PM
2. ROLL CALL
a. Board Members Present –
• Danielle Buttke
• Dawson Metcalf (Chair)
• Drew Derderian
• Kelly Stewart (Vice Chair)
• Kevin Krause
• Lisa Andrews
• Matt Zoccali
b. Board Members Absent –
• Barry Noon
• Bryan David
c. Staff Members Present –
• Honoré Depew, Staff Liaison
• Ginny Sawyer, Policy and Project Manager
• Cassie Archuleta, Air Quality Program Manager
• Kristie Raymond, Environmental Planner
•
d. Guest(s) –
• None
3. AGENDA REVIEW
4. CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a. Drew motioned and Kevin seconded to approve the NRAB May minutes as
amended. Motion carried unanimously. 6-0
6. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
7. NEW BUSINESS
a. Sustainable Funding Revenue Measures – Ginny Sawyer (Policy and
Project Manager)/ Travis Storin (Chief Financial Officer) will provide context
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and background on two potential November ballot measures to raise
awareness amongst board members prior to August 15 (if referred to ballot
staff can no longer proactively present/discuss). City Council will discuss at
July 25 Work Session. (Discussion)
• Discussion | Q + A
• Kevin – Q – So for the Parks and Rec piece, just to reiterate or
clarify, this item is just for the maintenance needs including aquatics
but for new capitol, new items that are in the plan… Ginny – A – No,
this would count. Kevin – Q – This includes new? Ginny – A – 5 Mills
does. 3 Mills is what is needed to cover the park maintenance and
replacement the additional two is where we are looking at. In the
immediate future we’ve got the Southeast Community Center . In like
five years, Mulberry Pool is probably going to die . So, we are going to
need to do something. Any other “new” in the plan we would actually
have some funding to drop on. Kevin – Q – So that is what I was
going to ask. How specific is that additional 2 Mills tied to those
specific efforts or needs? Ginny – A – We worked on that ballot
language today. It says new or existing recreation facilities, or
something similar. We can share those Council materials once they
are out. Kevin – Comment – In my world that would matter and be
important to other needs. Ginny – Comment – We did not say
anything like pickleball courts or bike facilities. We just said new
recreation. Kevin – Q – So that is not something that is in the
upcoming work session? Ginny – A – Not necessarily. Kevin –
Comment – So if there was an opportunity of input from different
interest groups or needs, it still could maybe be helpful ahead of it? I
am just thinking out loud. Ginny – Comment – I think people would
want to think about getting it passed so we probably would want to be
more general at this point in saying this would help to provide major
maintenance and new facilities. Honoré – Comment – The wording I
have is bullet one is fund replacement, accessibility, maintenance,
and upgrades to parks, recreation, and aquatic facilities. Bullet two is
to fund construction of indoor and outdoor recreation and aquatic
facilities. That is close to what Council will see next Tuesday.
• Ginny – Comment – I will tell you while I have you, because it is
confusing, at this point Council has referenced three charter changes ,
charter clean ups. One addresses the candidate’s qualification.
Basically, it is saying if you have a felony, you can still run for
Council. Another one is a referendum clean up trying to match dates
should we ever get a referendum in the charter. It is kind of
technically complex. Then another one is looking to move residency
requirements. Our City Manager, department heads, and certain titles
have residency requirements. We’d like to take that out of the charter
and put it in the City Code so that City Council can make exceptions if
needed or change that. The City Manager requirements will stay in
the charter. Right now, it is disappointing if we lose the best
candidate because they live in Wellington. I think it’s unrealistic for
people to be like, “oh you have to move three miles if you want this
job. Good luck finding a home. For now, the requirements would stay
the same and we put them in the code but then we could change
them more easily than once a year, opportunity to go to the voters
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and ask. They also talked last night about possibly referring a ballot
measure that says should Council look at the occupancy
requirements and consider changing them. That language hasn’t
been crafted but I think they might put something like that on the
ballot as well.
• Honoré – Comment – I think one important thing is that the funds can
also be passed through directly to residents. That’s hopefully part of
one of the speaking points that come forward as well. Ginny –
Comment – I will also say I mentioned that once this gets referred,
City staff is kind of out of it. We are just taking interested parties
names to do one more meeting a little like this to run through
speaking points in case there are folks that may be interested in
promoting either of these items once they are referred. If you have
any interest in being part of that let Honoré know, and he can pass
your name onto me.
b. Oil and Gas Operational Standards – Cassie Archuleta (Air Quality Program
Manager) will provide an update regarding current oil and gas operations and
potential for additional regulations in Fort Collins in advance of a Council Work
Session scheduled for September 12. (Discussion)
• Discussion | Q + A
• Lisa – Q – When you say disappear, do you mean abandoned or
what does that mean? Do they just walk away from it and not mitigate
in anyway? Cassie – A – No, there are standards to it. They call it
plug and abandon, but it means they surrender the mineral rights,
and they have to fully reclaim. And there are ongoing concerns about
plugged and abandoned wells that Kristie will touch on too. They
don’t just completely disappear. There is some underground
infrastructure that remains no matter what. These things are reaching
down thousands of feet.
• Kevin – Q – What would those advocacy groups say at this point that
they want to see? Is it just that there should be that monitoring place,
on going, and we should layer on that step. I think your point is the
pace at which the State is moving is so different than it was a year
ago. Do they have a list of exact requests at this point? Cassie – A –
There is a list. One of the highlights of this is financial assurances;
are there enough financial assurances to say they can afford to plug
and abandon their well. That can cost hundreds of thousands of
dollars, and you’ll hear different numbers around that. The State just
last April, adopted financial assurance requirements and so did
Larimer County. You have some redundancy. So, they say, “hey what
if the state doesn’t do it.” There is an example of one of them where
we come back and say it is already there. What’s in the approved
plan by the State is enough and there is pushback saying City get
your own; have your own assurances. There are other examples . Air
quality monitoring is one where the State already requires three
months, for example, of monitoring when you get a new site. The
County requires a lifetime if you are building next to residential areas.
If the county were to implement that, has to have whole database
structures, tracking, and infrastructure resources for that and it will
only apply to new wells. So, we are saying we have some monitoring
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resources within our City budget and we can apply that to existing
wells. So those are some examples of where it is kind of nuanced
and we haven’t heard anything yet but that’ll move us toward
objectives any faster. You can always say it has six months
monitoring to six years. You can always strengthen that but we’re
looking for the impact too. Kevin – Q – In the case of that one with
their quality monitoring and the county requirement is that
incorporated and unincorporated or would that only be in
unincorporated? Cassie – A – County is unincorporated, so that is
one of the edits we are asking the County; can you make that apply
here. The State is, of course, the whole state and every new well.
Kevin – Comment – so that is covered assuming the trust in the
county level with the state level also having something. Cassie –
Comment – Yes, assuming it would ever matter, because even for
the County it is only triggered for a new well application. Anything
existing is grandfathered in. So even if we had it, it is a question of if
we would ever even use it. Kevin – Q – Is there monitoring in play at
either of those levels ongoing for the State or County for legacy wells.
Just identifying these problems like the field, you mentioned. How
would that be identified other than somebody’s nose essentially that
started it. Cassie – A – Often that is what gets someone out with a
camera. Somebody notices something and a complaint is filed. State
will send somebody or an advocacy group, like Earthworks has their
own cameras. That is why we bought the County a camera so we can
have closer resources to respond in a timely matter. The thing we are
working on right now is called fence line monitoring. It’s not a super
robust thing, but its this trace of molecular organics that if you have a
peak, you can react to go check it out with the OGI camera. So, it’s
like a continuous nose that’s out there. Kevin – Q – So that would be
for all sites, or near all those existing 17 or so wells. Cassie – A –
They are planning one next to the tank battery These other ones we
have never heard a complaint or concern about in the history of those
wells because they don’t do much. Kevin – Q – So it is a coupling of
there are not new wells happening and the legacy ones are kind of
clustered. They are either these (ones shown on screen) or getting
fence line monitoring. So, your point is we are pretty covered.
Because I agree, I mean, we should never have the point where
someone’s nose is the indicator because there’s a huge problem and
who knows how long it has been going on. That is not a good
scenario.
• Danielle – Q – Can you elaborate on the complaints about the OGI
camera? What gaps exist in monitoring plugged and abandoned wells
relative to operating ones? Cassie – A – Plugging and abandoning
involves wells out of services. There’s no more production there.
There is some cement that is poured down in the casing and there
are a lot of regulations to how you can do that. Concerns are cracks
over time. What if there’s pressure that comes back up. People
continue to be concerned about plugged and abandoned wells. The
State is looking more closely at that because emissions from plugged
and abandoned wells are not well quantified. For us the County has
gone and facilitated checks of these. We have done soil sampling
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and soil gas sampling around these, and we have detected nothing
that can be attributed to oil and gas wells. Somethings attributed to
agriculture is what we’ve found. You can use the OGI camera at a
plugged and abandoned well but all you are going to find with that is if
there is an active gas leak at that well and we use that mostly for our
tank batteries. What we’re concerned about most with the plugged
and abandoned wells is any water or soil contamination , especially
since these were never gas wells to begin with. These have been oil
wells and now they are zero pressure oil wells. Danielle – Q – What
about water monitoring and injection wells? Cassie – A – We do have
water monitoring at plugged and abandoned wells , injection and all
active wells. I can look into that one more Daniel. There is no City
requirement for monitoring around the injection wells. Nor did the City
permit the injection wells. These predated any City activity. Danielle –
Q – What about the complaints about the OGI cameras? Cassie – A
– I can speak generally to what complaints are. We think the OGI
camera is a really good thing. It’s expensive and its hard to come by.
So that was a big investment. Well relatively. It was about $100,000
for the City to buy that for the County. The limitations of an OGI
camera is what we’ve talked about. You have to be there with the
camera to detect the leak, so it is not continuous monitoring. The
camera is not. Kevin – Q – But you said the camera was triggered by
the complaints. It has to be like we have to go check this out and then
you mobilize the team that you’re working with at the County that has
been trained to do that. Cassie – A – Yeah, so there can be a
responsive inspection or a proactive one. The County is also regularly
going out and checking. Neither one of those continuous but we’re
trying to do more proactive ones now that they have staffing. Kevin –
Q – So I guess to the point of plugged and abandoned, is there ever
a cadence to which they will just go out with the camera once every
five years to make sure there’s nothing unexpected happening.
Cassie – A – Yes, the County is proactively inspecting those. The
State does not have plugged and abandoned auditing requirements.
As far as the rest of it, the operator has to do leak detection and
repair plan. I think that one’s annually. We have an intergovernmental
agreement with the County, and I believe we set up a 3-month
Candance with that, but I will have to double check on it. That was
part of our agreement. We will buy you a camera and you do some
inspections of our wells. Kevin – Q – Are plugged and abandoned
included? Cassie – A – Yes. Kevin – Comment – Theres not only
mistrust in the state level but there’s certainly mistrust in operators’
longevity. To say great, they have this plan but then they’re gone
because they have a bunch of legacy assets, so they are not there to
do that. That is where I think a lot of the mistrust and conversation
wise is that we can’t rely on that thing. It’s just good to get that.
Cassie – Comment – Another mistrust I will add is before Senate Bill
181 the mission of the State regulatory body was to extract minerals,
now their mission is to do that in a way that’s protective of the
environment. That is a little nuance in language. They were pretty
aggressive and preempted some of our local jurisdiction, so a lot of
the mistrust comes from that as well.
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• Danielle – Comment – It seems like there may be an opportunity for
messaging around reporting possible smells, visible leaks, etc. from
wells to the public. Cassie – Comment – Yes, we have some
highlights on the oil and gas City website. The State has resources
for that but what we’ve talked about too is how do we get the people
most impacted the best connected. We’ve talked about things like
going to the HOA in the area and even doing door hangers to just say
things about how to report leaks and spills. Kristie will talk a little bit
about people moving in and notifications that come to people who are
moving into houses in those areas to make sure they are aware there
are oil and gas wells.
• It is going to Council for discussion on Sept 12th. Cassie mentioned
they are trying to figure out gaps now and if Council wants
redundancy and if we should be investing City resources in that.
• Kevin – Comment – To that point and maybe this is a well-known
thing for City Council, for Broomfield who I think you said adopted
further at the city level is it because the county level does not have
the same level to where Larimer has gone for example? Cassie – A –
I’d say it would be more to the fact that they have over 100 wells ,
often in close proximity to residences, and they adopted their
regulations before the State had finished going through theirs.
There’s a little bit of everyone going all at once, so there is going to
be a lot of redundancy there and they also have to own some mineral
rights, so they get some money back from their oil and gas. They use
that to hire the staff that works in oil and gas. Most places have fully
devoted staff for oil and gas because they have hundreds of wells,
and it makes sense. Here we have a handful of old ones and it’s an
add on for your air quality and planning folks so we just don’t have
the resources, but that can be a question for Council on the
resources to do more with oil and gas.
• Matt – Q – Is there a lot of speculations for new wells that you have
heard of? Cassie – A – None and the process is several years from
what we understand from identifying a reserve that we want to tap
into and making the case. Now they have to do alternative site
analysis and you can do horizontal drilling, so you don’t have to be
right above a resource to tap into a resource. It would almost be
impossible to make a case that we need to be in this residential area
to tap this resources and we are on the edge of a basin so there is
not much to access here. Weld County is more in this base. So, there
is no speculation that anyone is interested. That said though, our land
use restrictions that we just got in place are pretty strict and places
like Colorado Oil and Gas Association and American Petroleum
Institute are seeing it as an example that they don’t want other
communities to do. So even though there is no speculated
development, we are still hearing some challenges from oil and gas
advocacy groups.
• Kevin – Q – With regards to injection there is such a high volume of
water attributed with some of the horizontal and other drilling
techniques, including injection that must occur there. Does anyone
know what those water sources are? One thing we think about a lot
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obviously is being thoughtful of the use of water. Would there be any
other regulations related to using City water for this purpose? Cassie
– A – Oh, sure. For our specific oil filed, this is the water flood
injection. Another water use conversation is hydraulic fracturing. For
water flood injection they recirculate the water, and there’s some
produced water and underground water. So, they are not introducing
any new water is what they tell us. They just recirculate it. For
hydraulic fracturing and the huge amounts of water used there in
places like Weld County, the State is looki ng at more and more
regulations about how you dispose of that and whether you have to
treat it. If we got new wells in the City and they wanted water, they
would have to go through our whole development review process.
Housing developers are having trouble finding enough water, so they
have to disclose and negotiate pay like any other development. Kevin
– Q – I didn’t know if all sites have to have water onsite or if they try
getting that injection water is there an opportunity to be like no you
can’t do that from here at all? That just seems like a mismatch I am
curious about as far as using water from certain sources for that
purpose wherever they may take place like if you go over the County
line. Cassie – A – It is one of the big concerns for Weld County staff
is how much truck traffic is involved especially in the preproduction
phases when the water is getting introduced. They don’t need a
continuous supply is the thing. So does it make sense to pipeline the
water.
c. Oil and Gas Reverse Setbacks (New Development Near Existing Wells) –
Kristie Raymond (Environmental Planner will seek feedback on development
standards for oil and gas. Known as “reverse setbacks” these standards were
last updated in 2018 and are organized in the Land Use Code. The City of Fort
Collins currently requires new residential lots be a minimum of 2,000 feet from
all oil and gas facilities. This process seeks to update the reverse setback
development standards to reflect recent changes in state regulations and
lessons learned over the past 4 years. Staff is seeking a recommendation
from the board ahead of City Council’s First Reading of an Ordinance on
September 5. (Action)
• Discussion | Q + A
• Dawson – Q – (Regarding the plugged and abandoned wells) even
that is consistent with the 2,000 ft? Kristie – A – Yes, once it was
updated. Dawson – Q – Even if its not be taken out? Kristie – A –
Because per the COGCC is more restricted. However, I will get into
the proposal where we differentiate.
• Lisa – Q – So the developer would do the monitoring? Kristie – A –
The developer would do the monitoring. That is where it gets tricky
when some people are like monitor forever. The developer leaves
eventually, so who is doing that?
• Dawson – A – Clarification question for me. When we say buffer zone
and we’re saying the 150, 500, and 2,000 ft that means both building
a home and also the addition of a new well. Kristie – A – No, I am not
talking about new wells. The well is already there. So, my piece is
what can we allow development to do around a well that is already
there, drilled and abandoned, producing injections, plugged and
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abandoned. Ideally, we would like drilled and abandoned to be
plugged and abandoned but the wells are already there. I do
development review. When someone brings a development proposal
in that’s what I’m looking at, the code. This is just a code clean up
that’s already there, just revising it. Kristie clarified the difference
between a setback and reverse setback.
• Lisa – Q – Is that the norm that the developer does the monitoring?
Kristie – A – Well, not everyone requires monitoring. If it is currently
operating, the developer does the monitoring. Not all cities require
monitoring. Kristie shared a slide what other cities have. A lot don’t
require it, that is just something we have required. We found that five-
year timeline wasn’t really doing a lot so do you do one year, 50
years? Ideally, we would like someone to come in and plug and
abandon these drilled and abandoned wells.
• Kelly – Q – What is the approximate cost to plug and abandon a well?
Kristie – A – It varies based on depth of the well. Cassie – A – And
some of the infrastructure, whether there are any pipelines that you’re
also removing, and the age. We had an evaluation on that and
averaged them all around $100,000. It’s a lot more for the ones that
in involved in the battery because there’s so much surface
disturbance there. Kristie – A – It’s different based on how deep the
well, the age of the well; older wells have more issues. Lisa –
Comment – But it sounds like if there were going to be a problem, it
would be evident in the first year or so and there’s no need to monitor
longer term. Kristie – Comment – There may never be a problem. Or
there could be a problem in 100 years or one day. So that’s why
we’re like you have to do five years because this well has been
plugged and abandoned. Do one site assessment and see the levels
there and if there are elevated levels then let’s clean it up before we
do any development.
• Danielle – Q – Given the alkaline and soils in this area, I suspect the
risk of casing failure is abnormally high and that failures are not
gradual but a queue. This would support ongoing periodic monitoring
of plugged and abandoned wells perhaps once every five years . Has
an interval for monitoring been discussed? Kristie – A – It has.
There’s a lot of questions on who does the monitoring over a certain
period of time, but it has been brought up at one of the stakeholder
meetings and I’m sure Kirk has more discussions on this as well. I’m
sorry, I don’t know what those exactly are, but I will make a note of
that. Kevin – Comment – It’s kind of like we just don’t know what we
don’t know scenarios but maybe what we do know is what Danielle
pointed out or at least in some case studies we had one that was
always being monitored every five years. That would be at least
something to give a data point back should we be doing this for all
because the cost. There are just unknowns. Kristie – Comment – I
don’t know if they have all been plugged at the same time. They may
be on all different time frames.
• Kevin – Q – On your summary slide, for number two (allow
modification of standards for active well buffers, no less than 500’)
can you elaborate on what that is. Kristie – A – It’s modification of
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standards where we received a proposal on an injection well and they
asked for that 500 feet and it can only go as far as a 500 foot for the
producing and injection wells. Kevin – Q – Wouldn’t that be less than
State standard? Kristie – A – Yeah, and I don’t know exactly how that
works to be honest. Kevin – Comment – I am not clear why we are
going there. Why don’t we just not have that, especially because it’s
so specific. So as a developer it feels like I am going to go after that if
it says there can be a standard down to 500. Great, that gives me a
ton more viable developable land or units. I feel like if we’re going to
2,000 in the State why do we want to call that out so specifically. It
feels counter unless I am not getting it. Kristie – Comment – The
current language it has is the planning and zoning commission may
grant a modification of standards pursuant to division 2.8 to reduce
the 2,000 foot distance to no less than 500 feet provided the applicant
provides a phase to environmental site assessment as part of the
modification request showing that levels of oil and gas contaminants,
if any, are within Federal environmental protection agency or State
Health Department standards. The reasoning behind that is there is
not a lot of scientific proof out there. Kevin – Q – Is that just for
injection? Kristie – A – It’s not just for injection. It is put under both
categories. But that is the reasoning I believe that it was added, is
these injection wells, there is not a lot of literature out there saying
that they post a lot of risk. Its more the risk is unknown. So, there
wasn’t a lot either way. Cassie – A – The main risk we have talked
about is what if the injection becomes a producing well. I know we
touched on that. I mentioned the State stopped an application like
that, but we still want to pay attention to worse case scenario. Since
you are popping stuff into the ground there is not as much as an air
risk. Just the mechanics of the well, we know there’s less risk from an
injection well that is pumping water in rather than a producing well
that is pulling some kind of product out.
• Lisa – Q – What does that mean, an injection well? Kristie – A –
Essentially water is injected in and there’s small reserves of oil left in
there and it pressurizes and pushes the oil up. Then the oil and gas is
separated out. It is a closed loop system. Lisa – Comment – Then
they keep using the same water and contaminating the farm water.
Kristie – Comment – The wells are sealed and done correctly, it’s a
closed loop system. Lisa – Q – And it’s not fracking, this is something
different? Kristie – A – It’s not fracking. It’s not waste water injection.
If you look at scientific literature, that is what you keep coming up
against. These enhanced oil recovery wells, there’s not a lot there
because it’s just the water and then the gas gets separated out. So, it
is a closed loop system.
• Kevin – Comment – I guess my reaction is if we don’t feel like we
know or that that could stop producing but it’s not plugged and
abandoned so it’s still open. Maybe the infrastructure has a leak
when it’s sitting there for five years, not producing. I feel
uncomfortable with bearing on the side of we don’t know much
because there is not much literature, so let’s go lower. Let’s protect
and say it’s the same number. We don’t know what we don’t know so
it’s the same number. We want to keep the population and the natural
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resources away from that. It’s in my direction and it doesn’t feel
comfortable.
• Lisa – Comment – I echo what Kevin said about number two. Why
would you put that in there. This is the role but if you don’t like the
role, here’s how you could challenge it. Why would you set that up
and give everyone the opportunity to drag you into meetings and
lawyers.
• Matt – Q – Does number eight in the proposed rules (Add prohibition
on detached occupiable buildings from existing buildings located
within the oil and gas buffer) mean that if I am a homeowner or
property owner within the oil and gas zone, I am not allowed to put an
ADU on my property. Kristie – A – If there is an existing home within
the buffer, you cannot add an ADU. You can add non occupiable
buildings or structures. You just can’t add occupancy.
• Danielle – Comment – Well service companies for residential water
wells seem very experienced and confident in their assessments of
how quickly water well casements degrade in Fort Collins soils, and
they may be useful stakeholders to consult the considered interval
monitoring.
• Kevin – Q – I guess to Matt’s question on the ADUs and congregation
areas, I haven’t had a lot of time to think about this but there are
some nuances to that that feel strange. These people who own these
properties are living there. To be like you can’t have a community
swing set but they are living there 100% of the time, even though they
are in a structure in that buffer, they are living there 100% of the time.
They are in their house, in the buffer or in their backyard, in the
buffer. So, it’s not congregated. I mean if there’s going to be an
imminent explosion or something but if it’s just, we don’t want people
to be near it like they are already near it. So as a homeowner, I feel
like that would be tough. I would wrestle with that to be like, this is our
house. So what is the difference? If I am right there at the swing set
versus…I get the intent but similarly with ADUs, its like grandma’s
living in the basement right now, she can’t live out back in the ADU
but its already this known thing. As long as it’s a known thing that you
live in this buffer zone. I hope you knew that before but if you’re trying
to develop just a heads up that you are still in the Zone. I don’t know.
That just jumped out as like you’re almost picking. Maybe their
property values are already impacted in some way, just by being
where they are but then to be like anyone else with a similar sort of
property scale or neighborhood type can add ADUs, but you guys
can’t. I mean they are already in the zone. Kristie – Comment – Or
some of the neighbors can and some can’t. Kevin – Comment –
Yeah, that’s a weird one. Kristie – Comment – Yeah that one is
marked over many discussions.
• Dawson – Q – Do we have any data around the number of
households that are impacted by this jump? Kristie – A – No, but I
can show you a map. For instance, proposed development on that
vacant right side, that is impacted.
• Matt – Comment – Kevin’s comments touched on my sentiments. If it
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can be shown through monitoring that this is safe, why impact the
personal, proper decisions and values? Kristie – Comment – There
still the risk of perception. There are a lot of holes in the literature
currently. We just carried what we know at this point in time. Kevin –
Comment – Maybe there is a difference between a developer and a
property owner. As a developer you don’t have your vested interest.
You have your vested interest but it’s a short-term thing. As a
property owner you are already there. Kristie – Q – So how do you
feel about an HOA putting a park in? Because I get what you are
saying an ADU is maybe one person. Kevin – A – If it was an existing
development, it would be hard. Its already there and there’s a
development proposal for a neighborhood park, right? Because we
are talking about reverse setbacks, not part of a brand-new
development? Kristie – Comment – We are talking about both. It
could be a brand-new development and they could say, okay we got
the memo, no homes but we are going to put a park in this buffer. We
are going to use that land to put a park in. Kevin – Comment – That I
resonate with more. It’s the existing stuff that I’m uncomfortable with ,
where it’s my existing neighbor or homeowner wants to do “x”. Kristie
– Comment – In some of these neighborhood’s wells have been
plugged and abandoned to go ahead and allow more usage of the
neighborhood. And more of that could be plugged and abandoned.
• Kevin – Q – My only other question was to your point on changing the
use from injecting to producing and the fact that it has sort of been
tried and is an ambiguous area. Is there opportunity for City level
regulation to say anytime a use change is proposed that that does put
into effect whatever the new standards are. That feels like a loophole
and if it’s not covered by the State or County, that feels like it is
hanging out there. Kristie – A – That get complicated. Cassie – A –
We had success in one case where we stopped it. Can they do it? Is
there a challenge that would work? We don’t know. Our land use
code gets trigged by a change in use. So, the new setbacks and
zoning thing say that. That is regular setbacks, not reverse setbacks.
So that also restricts the change in use. Kevin – Q – Is a change in
use triggered by a change in the way the well is being used ? Is that a
change in use by city code today? Cassie – A – Yes, it is. The fear is
what if the State challenges that. Kevin – Comment – Sounds like we
have a vehicle, that shouldn’t be something people are going like,
anytime this could…no it kicks in all those things. Kristie – Comment
– and that is the primary reason why injection and producing are both
at that same buffer. Injecting seems like there’s less risk potential but
if it can switch… Cassie – Comment – Correct me if I am wrong but I
think that is why the planning and zoning review was built in there. If
there could be some demonstration of that modification. Then you put
the illness on the developer to demonstrate that this isn’t going to
change from a shut in or injecting well.
• Danielle – Comment – I would argue that currently we can only show
that it is safe for a single point in time. Considerable future risks exist.
• Kristie – Comment – There is a planning and zoning hearing
tomorrow and then brought to Council September 5th. Kevin – Q –
Would there be opportunity, just with some of this discussion, is there
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opportunity to introduce either meeting minutes or anything to that
Council discussion? Kristie – A – If you all have something you would
like to write up and share to Council, that would be helpful ; any
comments or feedback you have. I know there’s stakeholder groups
providing feedback as well. We’ve been talking to lots of different
people. Kevin – Comment – I am not ready to support but I
appreciate the early discussion and I think that it’d be nice to see
where it goes. Kristie – Comment – The main piece of it is to clean
and refine the current land use code. I do realize there’s some details
that you still have questions about, and I don’t know how that would
be worded on your end. Dawson – Comment – Maybe that’s what I
am getting stuck on here too about this next step is based off a lot of
points that people have brought up during this. I feel weird saying we
as the Board general support it when we are thinking about other
things. Danielle’s point is really sticking with me about the
incremental monitoring. That is something I would want to push for
personally. So that is where I am getting a little iffy about the general
support piece. Kristie – Comment – Would you say there are some
pieces you would support? Honore – Comment – Reviewing the
minutes and the conversation you all had with your Council Liaison in
May, with Julie Pignataro and you know different Council Members
rely on Board and Commission recommendations to different degrees
but certainly the likelihood that they would comb through the entire
conversation may be limited. Something pointed that is clear and
simplified that can be extracted and highlighted by staff would usually
be the most influential and I don’t think that has to be a wholesale but
if there are pieces of it that you want to make sure council knew that
could also be teased in a memo. Dawson – Comment – I feel a
memo makes more sense to me personally where we can make
these defining pieces of what we support. I don’t know if other people
feel differently about that. Lisa – Comment – What seems like we
could say, I think we support the notion of moving from a 500 foot to a
2,00o foot limit. Dawson – Comment – I don’t think it would be best
to even do that. Kristie – Comment – That part is the clean-up of the
language, so it is less confusing for developers and staff. But then
bringing it to that piece, you have the drilled and abandoned well in
that 2,000 foot as well. You could say you support all but… Lisa –
Comment – The concern about the impact of private property and
how they’re utilizing it. For example, the playgrounds and ADUs.
Kevin – Comment – So, we need to go through one through nine and
see what level of support we have and then also any of the addons
like monitoring to be explored or others like that. Dawson –
Comment – and it makes more sense to me to do that in a memo.
The Board discussed the logistics of the memo. Kristie will send draft
code language to the Board. They will speak at the next meeting
more on the memo.
• Danielle – Comment – I will be more explicit. We purchased a 60-
year-old home with three water wells and two of them were collapsed
because of the alkaline soil degrading the casing, and every well
company we spoke with said that was expected. I think incorporating
a recommendation for interval monitoring, language acknowledging
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uncertainty and change based on evolving science, and support for
current stated changes would be my recommendation.
• The board will go through points one through nine (proposed
changes) in the presentation to discuss if they support or don’t
support the proposed changes during their next meeting.
• Dawson motions and Kelly seconds to write a memo examining the
summary of proposed changes, with considerations for an addition of
making our suggestions on the proposed changes, with the additional
element of adding a point of interval monitoring on sites. Motion
passes unanimously 6-0.
8. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS
a. None
9. STAFF REPORTS
10. OTHER BUSINESS
a. Six Month Calendar Review
• August
• Finalizing O&G memo
• Land Use Code landscape standard updates
• Update on Land Use Code
• September
• Economic Health Strategic Plan
• Downtown Parking
• Advancing Transit Initiatives
11. ADJOURNMENT
a. (8:21pm)
Minutes approved by a vote of the Board/Commission on XX/XX/XX
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Natural Resources Advisory Board
REGULAR MEETING
Wednesday, August 16, 2023 – 6:00 PM
222 Laporte Avenue, Colorado River Room
1. CALL TO ORDER: 6:05 PM
2. ROLL CALL
a. Board Members Present –
• Barry Noon
• Danielle Buttke
• Drew Derderian
• Kelly Stewart (Vice Chair)
• Kevin Krause
• Lisa Andrews
b. Board Members Absent –
• Dawson Metcalf (Chair)
• Matt Zoccali
c. Staff Members Present –
• Honoré Depew, Staff Liaison
• Kendra Boot, City Forester
• Katie Colins, Water Conservation Specialist
• Mariel Miller, Water Conservation Manager
• Kathryne Marko, Environmental Regulatory Affairs Manager
d. Guest(s) –
• None
3. AGENDA REVIEW
4. CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a. No minutes to approve this month.
6. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
7. NEW BUSINESS
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a. Landscape Standards Code Revisions – Kendra Boot (City Forester) and
Katie Colins (Water Conservation Specialist) will share proposed updates to
landscape standards for xeriscape, soil amendment, irrigation, and trees. Staff
is seeking feedback and formal support from the board to move forward these
updates as part of City Council’s priorities. (Action)
• Discussion | Q + A
• Lisa – Q – I have a question about the funding with at least 3 ½
FTEs; do people make payments for permission to do this kind of
thing or where does this money come from? Does it come from the
City, the applicant, or both? Kendra – A – We are not quite sure
about that yet. We are analyzing what sort of funding sources, and it
may be a combination. So, we are not quite sure about that yet, but it
is a great question.
• Barry – Comment – At our home we are in the process of doing
xeriscaping between Mountain Ave and the sidewalk. We had to
submit a plan to the City. The review process has taken a very long
time. Maybe in the process of doing it, we didn’t do it ourselves; we
contracted with someone to do it. We may have inadvertently violated
some of the requirements for the financial incentives to do the
xeriscaping. So, our experiences so far, have been a bit challenging
but obviously we are very supportive of the program. In our case, it’s
been a little bit difficult to know what we can and cannot do and the
delay has been pretty pronounced.
• Barry – Q – I have a number of questions and it may be in that longer
document with all the yellow highlighting. I apologize I have not
studied that exhaustively. Are there pesticide restrictions for concerns
about pollinators and not adding onto the demise of pollinators, which
has been quite well documented scientifically. Is that anything that is
in the code? Kendra – A – Not that I am aware of as far as turf or
xeriscaping goes. As far as trees, the forestry division maintains all
the public trees, at least from what we know, and people do take
things into their own hands and treat trees adjacent to their own
homes. Property owners are supposed to get permits if they are
doing any work to street trees. Not everyone may know that. We don’t
allow neonicotinoid for treating public trees but that does not mean
that they may be utilized on the grass in xeriscape. Barry – Comment
– I am also on the County Environmental Advisory Board and that’s
been an issue that we’ve dealt with in the last few months about
developing a policy to not add further to the demise of pollinators . I
am not sure how much communication occurs between City and
County, even though we are embedded in the County. Kendra –
Comment – I like that point and maybe that is something we can add
to our education plans for these policy roll outs because it’s part of
the landscape and toolbox of how you manage landscapes. Thank
you for bringing that up.
• Barry – Q – So another question is whether there’s any restriction on
soil amendments and different fertilizers. Because, again, another
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thing that’s well documented across the country is the adverse effects
of nitrogen and phosphorous loading on water supplies and then
stream out. I wonder if that is part what you are proposing . Any
restrictions there? Kathryn – A - So this isn’t so much of a restriction
of not this, but you have to meet certain physical and organic
components. So, it’s not straight fertilizer but the basic standard is its
compost tilled into the soil. We also work with storm water, MS4,
storm water runoff, and the quality impacting the waterways. By tilling
it into the soil and working on the soil quality, you reduce how much
you’re putting on top, how much can then run off, and reducing the
overall application of people who don’t know. It’s hard to estimate
when you are not an expert and just a homeowner. When your grass
is dying, you want to fix it. It’s often unintended over application which
is a big concern. Barry – Comment – At the scale of an individual
household isn’t saying much but it’s the cumulative affect of hundreds
if not thousands of households with too much fertilizer. Kathryn –
Comment – by adding it into the actual soil, it is reducing the amount
that needs to be put on top of that.
• Barry – Q – Are there any recommended tree species for planting?
Are they native? Is there a tradeoff or an argument both for
deciduous and conifer trees. Kendra – A – We do have a couple of
different recommendations list. I would say many of the trees are not
native because I think there are 28 native trees in Colorado and
probably five of those are deciduous. The rest are conifers. Many of
those don’t live well down at this elevation. A lot of the trees that are
on our recommended list is a mixture of trees that are xeric and can
live in low water situations. I would say most of them are in that
group. Then, we have some trees that require a little bit more water,
like some of our maples for example. Many of the trees that are on
our recommendation list are trees that are adequate for our planet,
are fairly adequate for changing climate, and can live in many
different situations, irrigated or non-irrigated. Barry – Comment – The
most common forest type in the continental US are juniper forests.
They are about 26% of forest cover. I think junipers probably do well
here and in the future they will probably do even better, though they
are not necessarily the most desirable trees in terms of casting share
and ameliorating the temperature extremes like today. Kendra –
Comment – I do agree. We don’t plant any evergreens or conifers in
the public right of way for a number of reasons. Some of it is the
shading in the winter and creating ice on sidewalks, roads, and
parking areas. The other reason is we have clearance standards.
Many of the conifers that grow well here its not great to raise their
canopies up, spruce particularly. So, if we are planting them in the
public right of way, these very narrow right of way strips, we can’t
clear the sidewalks for people to walk down and park on the street.
That is the biggest factor of planting conifers. The one thing that we
have been trying the last four to five years is the deciduous conifers
such as larch or glyptostrobus. So, they still get those feathery
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needles in that summertime, during the growing season and lose
them for the winter so you can raise them up. They have a canopy
and form instructor that is more similar to a deciduous tree.
• Barry – Q – My final question has to do with the three City golf
courses. What is being done there? There’s a lot that could be done
to have them use less water and to make the fairways start further
from the tee box. Just no water education there. Narrowing the
fairways and requirement for what they plant. There is a program, it’s
probably multiple ones, but there is an Audubon Society Program for
golf courses. I lived in a little town and my son and oldest daughter
played golf in college. I belonged to a country club and one of the
things I did was push them to get Audubon Society Certified and to
put up nesting structures for birds all around. It seems to me that
there is quite a bit that could be done to better xeriscape the golf
courses. Kendra – A – I am going to veer a little bit out of my normal
lane and try to answer as much as I can about the golf courses. We
don’t have our golf manager here with us, but I will say that the three
of our golf courses are Audubon dedicated sanctuaries. We are part
of that. Part of what goes into that is best management practices . You
are taking into consideration water use and doing your best
maintenance practices to make sure you are creating a conducive
habitat for birds, species and other wildlife. We do meet those
minimum standards if not I would say we probably go above and
beyond. Our cemeteries are also dedicated, and I believe City Park is
also dedicated. I wanted to touch on the water piece a little. I have
heard my peers say that we are very efficient in the way we utilize
water as a city organization. We also use a combination of well water
and city water, but mostly well water. Last time I checked it was 90%
ET. Last time when we were in a water shortage, we got down to
80% ET. We are very efficient at watering our golf courses and parks
based on best practices.
• Kelly – Q – What does “ET” stand for? Katie – A –
Evapotranspiration. So essentially the amount of water a plant loses
is measured in evapotranspiration and the idea of irrigation is to
replace the water that is lost from the plant. So, when we talk about
90% of ET that means we are not replacing 100% of what’s lost we
are replacing less than that. Kendra – Comment – I have one more
thing to add about the golf courses. A big part of water loss comes
from old infrastructure. For instance, Southridge just went through an
entire update, brand new state-of-the-art infrastructure. That is going
to save us, I can’t remember the numbers, but it’s astounding how
much water that is going to save that golf course. City Park 9, that
infrastructure replacement for that irrigation system is also coming
soon. If we could have these nice infrastructure replacements every
30 or so years, its huge replacement and saving water. Katie –
Comment – I will add to Southridge, they are converting more areas
of the golf type nature to native or rough species. Barry – Comment
– The Southridge course is in bad shape, and I think it’s because of
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the hard freezes we had in the winter, but it needs work. Katie –
Comment – They have been putting a ton of work into it, especially in
the last year. So exciting things over there.
• Kevin – Q – As far as soil amendments or really all three parts, what
has engagement been with installers and otherwise those who
maintain infrastructure? Katie – A – We started public engagement
on this project back in 2021. We had surveys with focus groups with
the landscape industry. We reached out to developers and builders
but didn’t get a great response there as well as property managers.
We did have conversations back and forth and we’ll continue to go
back to these folks to learn more about what the impact would be
there. We have been engaging those groups through this process but
also through our certified landscape professionals’ program. That is a
list of landscape professionals in Fort Collins that have a water sense
certification. We communicate with them on City projects, and they
give us feedback. So, we have presented this direction to them as
well.
• Kevin – Q – What do you expect or anticipate from Council? Do you
have any anticipation of what those conversations are or what they
will be looking for? And then the budget piece is an add on question
of how does it get covered? I know there are several asks for it. Are
they more sensitive because of that. Katie – A – We took soil
amendment and xeriscape topics to Council work session in January.
Kendra, I think came two weeks after us with the tree policy. In those
conversations we were really looking for direction and narrowing into
specifics on turf maximums and other things so we had discussion
around should it be zero percent, should it be 15. We went over that,
and they seemed pretty happy with where we landed in the middle.
Through public engagement especially, we have heard there is a little
bit of heartburn around single family landscape standards among
owners, builders, and the general public. Then on the other side
people are really supportive of the direction. What we anticipate
October 10 is bringing single family back up to get the temperature
again from Council. They were supportive of it in January. We’ll
continue to share what that engagement has been. When we’re
talking about the resources needs and the employees that three and
a half full time employee number comes from having to support single
family landscape standards because we ha ve the processes and
much of the staff in place to support the commercial, non-residential,
or multifamily development review. But for single family where you
have 400 homes going in, we don’t have a process to look at
landscape plans, landscape inspections, irrigation checks and audits.
So that is really where that three and a half number is. Kevin –
Comment – I think the heartburn we can all relate to that desire to
keep what is typical or what we are used to in the standard, so I
totally get that. This board expressed last time excitement to be
thoughtfully thinking about turf grass, especially with things that tend
to be underutilized. I think there is probably a nice tie in with parks as
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well and developments to make sure that there is not a feeling of loss
with respect to potential for activity that people expect. Katie – A –
You could go wall to wall if you wanted. We don’t recommend it
though. Kevin – Comment – So you could max on that as far as
explaining the change. There’s still a lot there centralized. Kendra –
Comment – We realized through Covid that parks are such an
important, valuable asset. The community could go and hang out and
feel safe. So, its good it’s part of the exception. Even when we are
planning or developing new parks, we are considering pollinator
gardens more natural, xeric landscape on the outskirts. We are
looking at ways to bring that back. Katie – Comment – When we
evaluated, we were looking at the recent parks that have gone in and
looking at how those parks would or wouldn’t fit into this 30% 10,000
square foot thing. The 10,000 square foot cap is really where it gets
tricky for soccer fields, football fields, outfields and things like that.
More and more, the parks that are being put in, there’s a lot of
community input and there’s a lot of excellent examples of best
practice in those park designs and management of those parks. We
found that they didn’t quite meet that 30%. They often went over but
as far as gallon per square foot, much lower on average than only
commercial or older parks.
• Kelly – Q – So you guys are looking for formal support. I don’t know if
the board feels like we are in a place to do that or what our options
are to go about that. Honoré shared the different options with the
board.
• Barry – Comment – So again, and not looking at that full document
exhaustively, two points I already raised so I will just touch on them
briefly. I think sometimes regulations have an opportunity to gently
teach someone. The issue with pollinators is really well documented
that pollinators (insects, birds) are in decline. Also here, that is an
issue. You could suggest restrictions on the use of pesticides with
adverse effects on pollinators and then simply have a sentence or
two saying that pollinators are in steep decline, and from pollinators
we get totally free environmental services. They are absolutely critical
for almost all of our crops and they’re totally free. We don’t have to
pay them. Then a similar thing with nitrogen and phosphorus again,
extremely well documented, of how t contributes to eutrophication
and e coli breakouts in aquatic ecosystems. Just a sentence or two.
It’s not like using a hammer. It’s saying we strongly recommend for
these reasons. Maybe that sometimes has an effect without being
preachy. Kendra – Comment – I like that feedback and I think each
section or article starts out with a purpose statement. I think that’s a
great spot for educating or bringing it front of mind to whomever is
reading the code. It also makes me think that the land use code will
be going through phase two update after the y push through phase
one, which is affordable housing and update of the land use code. I
believe phase two will probably be next year and that will likely
include nature in the City policies. So, there will be other opportunities
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as well. We’ll take that back around the pollinators and pass it to Kirk
Longstein and make sure we are bringing that in front of him. Barry –
Comment – In that regard there is actually a formal pollinator report
from the County Environmental Science Advisory Board that has just
been approved and completed. That might be useful to look at.
• Kelly – Q – Are we comfortable with a vote or would you prefer a
memo? Barry – A – I think maybe as Honoré mention in the minutes
and notes here.
• Katie – Comment – I also want to say that we think that the general
direction of these codes will likely remain as what you see here. We
have our Boards and Commissions roadshow. We are collecting
some additional feedback and we’ll be revising the code language
that you received in your packet. I just want to point out that you’ve
seen a proposed draft and some of the language in there might
change but we don’t anticipate the direction changing significantly
unless we were to pull single family out of there, for example. I just
wanted to throw that out there in light of a recommendation.
• Lisa – Q – It seems to me that the overall purpose of this is language
change, and I did kind of go through it yesterday, is to bring things up
to best practices and to consolidate further the goals of an
environmentally sound community. That is what I get out of it, and I
support that entirely.
• Kevin motions and Lisa seconds to express support for the direction
of the proposed code changes inclusive of single family remaining in
there because it is important and to also highlight the importance of
the educational opportunities pointed out with respect to pollinators
and soil content additives and try to make that the center point of the
public introduction to the code being waterwise. Motion passes
unanimously. 5-0
b. NRAB Memo Review: Oil and Gas Reverse Setbacks – Review and finalize
draft memo, prepared by NRAB Chair, regarding proposed changes to the
City’s policies on oil and natural gas reverse setbacks. Memo is based on
NRAB discussion and motion following the July 19 presentation by Kristie
Raymond, in advance of a Council Work Session scheduled for September
12. (Action)
• Discussion | Q + A
• The Board discussed that the wording on number three was
confusing regarding soil-gas and ground water monitoring timeline.
They discussed the strong desire for ongoing monitoring vs a one-
time assessment. They also requested the initial assessment be
conducted within a year of it being plugged and abandoned. They
also mentioned Danielle’s point from the discussion last meeting that
the soil here tends to degrade things quicker.
• Honore shared the most updated language of the code. The board
still disagreed with an initial assessment and a five-year waiting
period as the environment is not static or predictable . It should be a
high priority activity because it is documented to have adverse human
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health impacts. There was a code change added from the original list
they were given.
• Barry shared that the County Environmental Advisory Board received
a presentation on air quality in Larimer County. The air quality is bad
in Larimer County and has gotten worse. It will be out of compliance
for the next 3-5 years. Wind direction is the number one predictor of
air quality in Larimer County and is correlated with the number of
wells in Weld County, so he does not want to let up on oil and gas
regulations and monitoring.
•
8. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS
a. Kevin – Council has been thinking about reimaging the Bicycle Advisory
Committee (BAC). During their last meeting they were presented with an initial
recommendation from a Council Sub Committee. The recommendation
included it becoming a true board versus a committee made up by other
boards so NRAB would no longer have a liaison. They also mentioned
changing it to include all active modes. There are also some non-profits and
other community groups that are part of BAC. They want to make those
members not as defined of what organizations but have a body that is
inclusive of those types of organizations as non-voting members. Kevin
mentioned there was a heated discussion, but he supports the changes. It
does cause some confusion for the Transportation Board and what they would
then cover and what their roles would be .
• Barry asked about e-bikes and how some of them you no longer
have to pedal so they are more like a motorcycle and where they are
allowed. Kevin mentioned that class one and two are allowed on trails
but there is a courtesy lower speed limit that should be followed.
There were studies done on speed and injuries.
b. Kevin – Mentioned an email sent by utilities regarding a change in raw water .
There is a proposal to change the way raw water requirements are structured,
including the cost. Kevin mentioned it seemed like Council received feedback
after the email went out from community members who were alarmed at the
cost increase. It seems like there might be a balance or looking out for current
costs and future costs. Kevin wonders if Council could use support or
guidance from NRAB regarding this.
c. Barry – The County and CSU Water Center are sponsoring a water education
series. The first talk is on August 21st at 200 Oak St on water supply and
Risks. The second talk is Sept 20th on water conservation. The third talk is on
October 18th on watershed health and instream flows and the last one is on
November 16th on what is next for Larimer County water. Barry stated Glade
Reservoir and Northern Water is not on the agenda. It is open to the public
and Barry will forward it to the Board.
9. STAFF REPORTS
10. OTHER BUSINESS
a. Six Month Calendar Review
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• September
• Water Supply Requirement Fee
• Platte River Power Authority
• Land Use Code Update
• October
• Economic Health Strategic Plan
• Downtown Parking
11. ADJOURNMENT
a. (7:56 pm)
Minutes approved by a vote of the Board/Commission on XX/XX/XX
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Natural Resources Advisory Board
REGULAR MEETING
Wednesday, September 20, 2023 – 6:00 PM
222 Laporte Avenue, Colorado River Room
1. CALL TO ORDER: 6:04 PM
2. ROLL CALL
a. Board Members Present –
• Barry Noon
• Danielle Buttke
• Kelly Stewart (Vice Chair)
• Kevin Krause
• Lisa Andrews
• Matt Zoccali
b. Board Members Absent –
• Dawson Metcalf (Chair)
• Drew Derderian
c. Staff Members Present –
• Honoré Depew, Staff Liaison
• Nick Combs, Comms & Marketing Manager, Utilities
• Eric Keselburg, Parking Services Manager
• Drew Brooks, Deputy Director, PDT
d. Guest(s) –
• Javier Camacho, Platte River Power Authority
• Masood Ahmad, Platte River Power Authority
• Carly Lynch, Platte River Power Authority
3. AGENDA REVIEW
4. CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a. No minutes to approve this month.
6. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
7. NEW BUSINESS
a. Platte River Integrated Resource Plan – Platte River Power Authority
(PRPA) will be presenting their upcoming Integrated Resource Plan (IRP) for
awareness and discussion. (Discussion)
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• Discussion | Q + A
• Matt – Q – (Regarding the slide with budget system total) Can you
give me an idea of what other purchases are? Javier – A – So that is
our purchasing power, right? Masood – A – We are well connected
with other utilities here. We buy and sell with all the transactions. In
any hour, if our marginal cost is, say $20, and there is a power
available at $19, we will buy it because that saves our customers
money. And the same way, if our marginal cost is $20 and
somebody’s willing to pay us $22, we’ll sell it. That is in real time.
Then we also make forward transactions like we’ve made sales for
next summer if we think we have access, energy and capacity. Matt
– Q – If I did my math right, those numbers are not included in the
non-carbon resource percentages. Masood – A – Yes, they are
sperate. We have to keep them separate. It is hard to pinpoint the
carbon structure of those purchases. A lot of times, this energy is
available when there’s a lot of wind in the area. It’s very windy. They
have, I think, 4,000 megawatts of wind. The prices drop. So, we say,
hey, why should we be running coal. Typically, if it is below our
marginal cost, it has to be renewable because renewable is a 0
marginal cost energy, but we don’t count the carbon of that. That is
what our team is looking at. There are a number of options our team
is considering.
• Kevin – Q – As far as the modeling and opportunities, clearly on the
demand side there has to be some gives there because you have
additive sources coming online with EVs and home electronification
and so forth. How much can that contribute when you think about
changes in behavior, changes in improved installation building
envelopes, and these things. Is there modeling and data that can
come back to the City or already provided to the City to say this is
how much of a difference these other things can make. Otherwise, as
you indicated, it’s just more expensive. You either spend the money
here with those efficiency upgrades that we talk about in. I guess I am
trying to understand how much of an impact that can have , that
actually changes behaviorally or on demand through these other
methods that are just reducing demand from an unneeded demand
perspective, is the best-case scenario versus the needed when
you’re saying we’re electrifying the transportation side. Masood – A –
There are two different demand areas. One is electrification the other
is thermostat/electric heating. Let’s take them one by one. On
electrification, as I mentioned, as more and more customers buy
electric vehicles, that is a demand we have to meet. To the extent
that the customers work with us to charge when we tell them it’s a
better time to charge. When we tell them it’s a better time to charge,
the price of electricity is lower and renewable is available, and don’t
charge during certain hours to the extent to give us control of your
charging time. That’s very valuable. You can give us the flexibility.
That will definitely help us reduce the resources that we have to bring
on time. Kevin – Q – Just to clarify, my question is not about those
new sources of demand, but about existing demand, existing
efficiencies. So, saying, should the City actually be spending four
times what it’s spending to have more homes insulated more
effectively rather than wait to spend the money by having to create
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these demand response technologies and additional battery storage
and feeding that information back to the City? You’re going to spend
money, so maybe we should be tripling down over here first because
our model is showing that will take this demand down and we have to
put online less sources. Is any of that in the modeling? Masood – A –
Yeah, its not only modeling, which is future, it's happening now. Don’t
quote me on these numbers but I can tell you ballpark. Our cost of
electricity that we charge to our cities is a little over 100 million dollars
a year for the four cities. We spent almost 10 million dollars on
energy efficiency programs on behalf of the four cities. We have been
doing this for the last 10-15 years. We have a track record where we
are working with residential customers, industrial customers, and
commercial. We are helping to reduce the demand. I have heard the
City of Fort Collins has been able to reduce demand to the tune of
one percent for energy efficiency measures. What we are looking at
is less than overall. If you didn’t have energy efficiency programs, our
demand would be growing at about a half percent per year more at
the wholesale level. I think the City of Fort Collins is close to one
percent but again, these numbers are just ballpark. A lot of activity is
happening in this area. One quick comment; unfortunately, the
heating load, there is not a lot of flexibility. We can, especially if it is
extreme cold, we will not be shutting down your heater. What is the
best scenario for electric utilities is you have your gas heat as well
available as back up. Obviously, gas heat is more polluting but when
the extreme temperatures come, if you have that back up, that puts
less pressure on electric utilities because at some temperature s, the
heat pump efficiency goes. At that time, everybody resorts to
resistance heating. We see the demand growth is going to be really
high. Now, peak demand is in summer but in the next two decades,
we could become winter peaking if many of our customers have heat
pumps, and they resort to resistance heating in extreme weather
rather than keeping the gas heating as a backup. That is a better
scenario for electric utilities.
• Barry – Q – So candidly to ask you this, how optimistic are you that
advances in technology can keep pace with advances in demand
particularly along the Front Range, where population is growing
almost exponentially. Masood – A – We all collectively made a
forecast. Let’s look at the demand. In the 1990s the demand really
grew fast. Since then, the energy efficiency efforts that Platte River
and its communities made the demand, we have made a dent in that
demand growth. It has been around one percent or so. Because of
electrification and because of the heating load, the demand could
jump up to two or three percent again. The demand is going to
continue to grow, and the growth rate will be determined. We know
electric adoption is already here. It’s accelerating and the electric
heating is a little bit unfancy. So, it’s going to grow a little bit slower
than electric transportation. But the technologies to go 100%, that’s
the second part of your question, we have our consultant and
advisors telling us, for example green hydrogen. There’s a lot of
money being spent and it’s not commercial today but maybe by the
middle of the next decade hydrogen could be a viable source where
you don’t need to burn natural gas. You make green hydrogen when
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there is access renewable and you store it underground or in tanks
and then tap on that every day in the evening when you need it or
when there is extended dark period. That is hydrogen. Similar
situation with the long duration energy storage, that technology a lot
of R&D on that. Some pilots happening. We are thinking of a pilot
ourselves but again by the middle of the next decade. Jaiver –
Comment – I know this is not part of your question but something I do
want to underscore that Masood did mention is we need to pursue
these technologies because they are emerging technologies. We’re
one of many utilities that are keeping an eye on how quickly these
technologies are evolving but we are also looking from a tactical
standpoint how we can actually integrate them into our portfolio
versus other utilities, they are just keeping a pulse on how to
eventually transition to their portfolio. What we have to do, because of
our size of utility, we are 700-800 peaking utility as well as we are all
around the generation and transmission side. We need to determine
that these technologies are commercially viable which means we
have to determine that they can actually function across other utilities.
We also monitor how other utilities are adopting them. There are a lot
of factors that we keep in. So yes, the demand is definitely continuing
to grow, and we are keeping forecasts on that. Technology is
evolving but, in a nutshell, at a slower pace. We need to just keep in
mind that financial sustainability piece and make sure it does make
sense when we want to introduce a new technology to our portfolio.
• Barry – Q – I have a follow up comment. Let’s have a simple metric
here. If we look at the demand to availability ratio and as that ratio,
let’s say, approaches one or on some occasions even exceeds one.
Then then price for megawatt or kilowatt, whatever the measurement
unit is, access to that becomes socially inequitable. So, people who
are already empowered and wealthy can afford to pay additional
dollars for access to energy, but those who don’t have that ability… I
have a broad thesis that so many of the social problems around the
world can be explained by one metric, and that is the ratio of the
distribution of wealth and opportunity. I’m concerned that this demand
availability ratio, a simple metric like that, could exacerbate the
inequitable distribution of access to energy. Javier – Comment – Your
comment is well taken, which is why, as we continue to pursue our
goal of the resource diversification policy, we are not relinquishing,
and we’re relentless in that effort of our three foundational pillars.
That of reliability, ensuring that we are living up to our responsibility
and obligation that has been founded in our organic contract. The
environmental responsibility which is one of the guiding principles that
we were founded on, and the financial sustainability factor. As I
mentioned we are not going to avoid rate increases but how do we
actually ensure that it’s in a measurable amount? Masood –
Comment – And minimal. That’s our starting point. We want to make
sure the cost increase is minimal. Javier – Comment – Minimal
knowing that they inevitably will increase. So, your comment is well
taken and definitely something that guides us as part of this ongoing
process.
• Danielle – Comment – I think it’s really remarkable that you’re seeing
a decrease in demand, because we know writ large globally, we are
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experiencing Jevon’s Paradox. Where we make more energy and
people just simply consume more energy. We’re not actually seeing a
net reduction in overall global energy use. Even as these renewable
energies come on board, we’re just seeing demand increase because
everything’s electrified. We used to sweep our floors, now we have a
robot vacuum. We used to hand grind our own flour, now we have all
these gadgets and screens that simply demand more electricity. I
want to commend you on that because that is really remarkable.
However, I still think it’s concerning particularly given Barry’s
comment about equity and knowing that all the statics you stated
about how much money is spent on attempting to reduce demand
and yet, even with those pieces in place, we’re still just seeing that
1% reduction. So, I think a lot of the efforts to reduce demand are
focused on simply making the infrastructure we have perform better
but very little of that is actually spent on behavioral modification. How
do we get people to actually change their behaviors, to turn off lights,
to not have so many screens, etc. So, I feel like there’s a huge gaping
hole in a lot of the portfolio. Javier – Comment – So you are talking
about education and that is definitely something that keeps me up at
night. Part of what I do at PRPA is managing our marketing outreach.
What we’re doing in this very moment is crafting a strategy that is
working regionally with our owner communities and really amplifying
that education outreach. As Masood mentioned, through our
efficiency works program, which you probably have heard of, and Fort
Collins has a piece of that as well as the homes program, but we
work very closely with the Fort Collins Utilities on that education. Now
we’re starting to amplify that because we are seeing an evolution not
only on the operations and the generation side, but what that’s going
to look like on the consumer side. So, the relationship that an electric
utility has with its customer is also changing. We are now having a
relationship, not just transactional but relational. We need to influence
behaviors or educate consumers on how to better utilize their
appliances or what tools they have. We need to access data too
because we also recognize that customers may already know how to
use their home in an efficient way. That question is do they want to
share the data with us. We are actively developing that strategy and
recognizing that we’re not the only region or the only utility trying to
figure this out. We are collaborating and establishing that strategy
right now.
• Danielle – Q – So along those lines, from a social equity standpoint,
and I apologize that this is already in place, but when it comes to
water usage, we know that there are surcharges placed on those high
users. When it comes to electricity there’s other factors that need to
be put in place, such as is this home owned or a rental. Someone
that rents a home can probably not participate in efficiency works and
cannot upgrade appliances or perform those energy reducing
measures the same way that a homeowner can. Are those user
search charges something you’re looking into to attempt to modulate
those behaviors? Javier – A – That is a really good question, and I
honestly couldn’t sit here and say yes. I would need to go back to our
team to determine that. Since we are on the wholesale side, we at
PRPA do not get down to what the actual customer bills look like. We
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have four major customers. Those are the four municipalities that we
serve. It would be more on the distribution side that we need to be
examining that. It’s definitely a conversation worth having. Honore –
A – The City of Fort Collins, I don’t know about the other partners,
has the EPIC homes program, which is a finance program that
specifically targets landlords to make efficiency improvements in
rentals. Javier – A – But your question about the billing side; how can
you influence behavior on the billing side and I worked for water
utilities so I know what you are talking about with the tier structure.
You incentivize the water efficiency users. Danielle – Comment – And
some of the best social marketing research has come out of utility
billing social marketing approaches. I think there’s a lot of opportunity
there.
• Danielle – Q– The other thing that struck me was in your projections
looking at hydropower, looking as though staying pretty static, despite
the acknowledgement and I have a little bit of a miff by calling it a
drought because we are not experiencing a drought; we are
experiencing climate change. So, water and hydro will continue to
decline and yet on your models it looked as though it was projected
as being rather static. I think that’s somewhat questionable. The other
thing I had a really bit question about was why rooftop solar was
expected to remain static. I would have thought that rooftop solar
production would grow over time. Masood – A – So let me address
your comment about hydro. It is decreasing but very minutely. We do
run scenarios and cases where there is less hydro available like “dark
calms.” We want to make sure if there is hydro is less, we can
provide electricity. We covered that at the wholesale level. Now your
comment on the rooftop solar. This is older data , almost a year and a
half to two years old. What we have seen is the actuals are coming in
higher than we projected. We are almost up to 25 or 30 megawatts in
our system with our peak demand of 700 megawatts. That’s 5%. It is
coming at a higher rate. So, we’ve updated the forecast and if you
see the latest charge almost double that but its 60-70% higher than
that you have seen in that chart.
• Danielle – Q – Really phenomenal modeling and explaining that is
being shown tonight. There is an issue of aging infrastructure. A lot of
homes that were built, prior to even 2000 only have 150-amp service,
which is not supportive of a lot of the new heat pump technologies,
particularly when electricity demands under our consumer driven
lifestyle with all the screens and other electronic devices are asking
so much. So, there’s a lot of debate that I’ve been exposed to in how
are these technologies really going to be adopted when there’s an
even bigger entry cost because that infrastructure is not set up to be
able to allow us to switch directly from natural gas to the heat pump,
to geothermal, or something along those lines. I am wondering how
the industry is going to handle that there is more incentive and more
investment in upgrading aging infrastructure or as Kevin alluded to
could we instead focus that money on simply increasing efficiency
and reducing demand to allow that transition to take place? Masood –
A – First on the demand side, when we hired a consultant to do the
forecast of heating demand, they brought up the limiting factor will not
be customers desire but will be the constrains in the last mile as you
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referred to. That is why we may not become winter peaking as fast as
customers would like, because of the limitations not on the supply
side of not having enough green electrons but we don’t have enough
pipeline at the end. I am also aware, and I think it’s an early stage,
but the City of Fort Collins is starting to look at what they call feeder
by feeder study. There are thousands of feeders for serving all those
customers. I don’t want to speak on behalf of the City, but I am aware
that the City is aware that some feeders may need upgrading and
they are looking at it. When we were doing this study, this was an
active discussion with the City.
• Kevin – Comment – Just one more comment on the point of behavior
change. I feel like we have to figure this out. There’s this human
problem in this modern society problem where nobody wants change.
We’re not figuring out ways to dive that change at scale. I hope that
everyone can come together from all your customer utilities and you
all. This psychology focused podcast I listened to recently on how to
drive change and there has to be some different things attempted. If
people are aware of how much more their existing unavoidable loads
are going to cost them in the future, if they don’t take out their
avoidable loads for example. If that picture isn’t painted for them in a
very obvious way or if they don’t see that Danielle over here manages
her energy this way, you can too. We need to crack that because all
these other things aren’t lining up perfectly. It’s not a question just a
hope that we are trying really innovative, maybe non -traditional things
to get that messaging. Get that opportunity to resonate. Masood –
Comment – I will add people respond to their pockets. If you look at
Europe or even Japan, the cost of electricity is two or three times as
much. They import energy there. GDP to energy consumption ratio is
much better than ours. We are blessed with a lot of resources. It’s
difficult to become more efficient when its 10 cents a kilowatt hour,
when in Germany people are paying 32 cents. It is easier for them.
Javier – Comment – Customers respond to incentives and it’s usually
financial incentives or competitive incentives. You create a
competition out of it and there are apps that are out there that allow
you to compare your energy consumption to your neighbor or you
compare your energy consumption to a household that looks like your
household. The previous utility I was at had an app that did that. We
saw great success with it and how customers were doing, particularly
with those that were lower income. Even though you are low income,
talking about the social and equity issue, smartphones are very
affordable. It’s the computer that even low-income households
couldn’t afford. So, you put the app in their hand and suddenly, you’re
creating an equity issue and helping address it. Kevin – Comment – I
think part of it is personalizing it, humanizing it. We’re unfamiliar with
the neighbor comparisons. I’m picking on Danielle, but This is what
Danielle did. Danielle doesn’t turn lights on during our meetings as
you can see in her background because why does she need to.
Danielle can keep her lights off. There’s a difference in saying what
can I specifically do or what is someone specifically doing that’s worth
it? It’s not everything but you have to start somewhere. That is my
hope.
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b. Downtown Parking System Update – Eric Keselburg (Parking Services
Manager) and Drew Brooks (Deputy Director, Planning Development and
Transportation) will share current activities, financial and maintenance trends,
and seek input on future policy/operational improvements prior to an October
24 City Council Work Session. (Discussion)
• Discussion | Q + A
• Kevin – Q – Is what you just said in the slides? Drew – A – I don’t
think so. Kevin – Comment – To me, it’s so painfully obvious. I would
throw it out there. Shouldn’t that be the story we are telling so the
decision makers can understand we are very different and it’s not
working. Drew – Comment – I don’t think anybody doesn’t know that.
I think the problem has been, I guess I would say politically, it has
been difficult to make that change. Eric – Comment – I think the first
2013 plan identified if this than that. So, if we have a certain capacity
off street, then we need to relook at our model. 2017 did the same.
We are at that stage now. We want to go to Council’s discussion
about right sizing. Kevin – Comment – I think that is what they are
going to ask you. They are going to want to see that, so they don’t
have to draw that out. Eric – Comment – We want the blessing to do
some additional work. Kevin – Comment – I think like you said, you
did the comparison on fines, why not show the like for like
comparison. Drew – Comment – Yes, we certainly have done that
with groups that we’ve met. We’ve shown case studies on what other
communities are doing.
• Matt – Q – Can you let me know who the other groups that you
visited are? Drew – A – We have not visited any other boards as of
yet. We’ve had several meetings that the DBA helped us to bring in
participants, mostly business owners or folks that live in the
downtown area. We’ve also had folks that were bicycle advocates
and others that sat in on those sessions. We’ve had a pretty diverse
group of participants in those settings. We’ve had between 20 and 30
folks that attended each of those three that we have had so far. Eric –
Comment – The Parking Advisory Board was dissolved in 2021 due
to a lack of form and a lack of interest. Drew – Comment – So there
was a parking board before the pandemic and even before the
pandemic, it was very difficult to get participants in that board. We
very frequently did not have forum so eventually Council opted to
dissolve them. Matt – Comment – It’s probably on your list but the
commission for disabilities or those kinds of groups are really critical
to include and ensure that kind of mobility and impairment is
addressed. Drew – Comment – Yes, and to reiterate that the first part
of this process is to get state of affairs if you will and take that back to
Council. What we’re hoping to do is have a second phase of this
where we would be much more robust where we would actually be
talking about, okay here’s some actionable or operational changes
we’d like to make and then taking that to all of those boards and
commissions and having that robust conversation. Matt – Comment –
I think the discussion about economics is great because I always
think about it too. We mostly ride our bikes downtown but if we do
ever drive, we go to the parking garage. It’s free the first hour and a
buck for the second, and we are out of there within two hours.
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Usually, it's not very much money to cover coming down here. I can
totally get on board with the discussion about how we need to pay our
way to help with this process. Eric – Comment – And to right size. I’m
not throwing numbers out but to have the parking structure be less
dollar amount than for parking on the street. Does it look like a dollar
an hour or is it less than that to incentivize that longer term use to
free up that parking space? That’s some of the discussion we’ll be
having after the Council meeting.
• Lisa – Q – I wondered if that bar graph that showed the portion of
occupancy by portion of the part of the day included garages as well.
Drew – A – Just on street, on identified streets in the downtown area.
Lisa – Q – What would that look like if you included the parking
garages availability? Eric – A – A healthy parking garage capacity is
65-70%. They will fill up to capacity like we said, for things like New
West Fest, or Taste of Fort Collins. That is when they were full.
Overnight is less than daytime but we don’t have solid data around
parking structure occupancy. Drew – A – I think anecdotally we could
say that they are highly underused for most of the day. Lisa –
Comment – That is my impression too. Eric – Comment – We can
safely say you can always find a parking space in the parking
structure.
• Danielle – Q – I am excited to hear you bring up that behavior change
approach of making on street parking more expensive than garage
parking. I don’t think the answer is to decrease the price in the
garage. As mentioned, it’s incredibly cheap and affordable,
particularly for a city this size. I think the answer is simply to
dramatically increase and/or have paid parking for that street parking.
I think generally that parking is an overlooked behavior change
modifier for a lot of the City’s carbon goals. When people are
participating in optional recreational activities, that is when they are
least tolerant of inconvenience. That’s when things are like, I am
going to bike because it’s just easier and I don’t want to have to deal
with looking for parking. Or I just got off work and I need to get there
quickly so I’m going to bike because it’s faster. I’m going to take the
Max because it’ faster than having to look for a parking space and
walk and the uncertainty that comes there. I think that there needs to
be greater integration of parking services into the Climate Action Plan
than there currently is. Again, it is such powerful behavior change
motivator because when we see that peak occupancy, it’s in the
evenings. It’s not during the day and it’s not the morning. It is when
people are least tolerant of inconvenience and therefore, we have the
most power to nudge them toward different, more carbon friendly
forms of transportation. Kevin – Comment – I guess I would add to
that integration with the climate action plan and also with the most
recent active modes plan. It feels like to have a goal as indicated in
that plan, which is 50% mode share via active modes . We can look at
space in our city, our space, how do we use our space and how we
use our space is indicative of the results that we want to achieve. I
would love to see, and I suspect council would love to see that tied to
active modes and how that allows us to achieve that particular goal
which is going to be a challenge. Tied to that, as you all have
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indicated, parking should certainly be covering itself and possibly a
net positive to then fund the larger initiatives for active modes and
these other areas that we’re looking to go back to voters from a
taxation perspective for the climate action initiatives and so forth.
Parking could be a revenue generator because it is in many ways
necessary, and I am not arguing that but how we architect it can
really impact those other goal areas which I think is exciting. The
average person is not going to be impacted in a way that really
detriments their life. It should be positive. The other area I have a
concern with that perspective is the call out really, it feels like an
ongoing call out of the economic vitality. Parking is the economic
vitality is the message that certain groups push over and over but I
question if the data across the world and across different
municipalities really ties to that. I would love to see research or case
studies brough forth to say these changes were made to the parki ng
in these municipalities and they actually saw constant business or
even an increase due to the accessibility of businesses by other
modes, the ease, and not having to search out parking. I don’t know if
its true, but it keeps getting put in there. I am not saying I have the
exact studies folks in here might have them more readily, but I feel
like I’ve read things on multiple occasions where the business
community always pushes against parking changes. The result is
parking changes are made and business increases because of other
modes being more accessible to said businesses. We can’t keep
beating that if it’s not possibly true.
• Danielle – Q – Do you handle bike parking as well? Eric – A – We
don’t handle bike parking, but we work closely with FC Moves
regarding bicycle crowds or the downtown businesses that want to
have a bike rack in the parking space in front of their business. So,
we work with FC Moves on finding some viable options for bicycle
parking. Danielle – Comment – I know I am speaking from a place of
extreme privilege but there is a really vibrant and growing cargo bike
community in Fort Collins of people using larger bikes to move
children. At the same time, I’m seeing a trend of decreasing bike rack
space. For example, there’s a big bike rack on East Mountain that
was just moved over to the curbs, and you can’t actually get a cargo
bike on it. There’s one on Olive that previously stuck out far enough
into a parking space so you could get a cargo bike in there. You can
no longer do that. When you have to bring a cargo bike up onto a
curb through a dismount zone to park it, and you’re not as tall as your
bike is long, it’s really challenging. I think we need to think about
updating our parking infrastructure. I know it’s legal to park in a car
parking spot with a bike in the City of Fort Collins, but no one would
risk their integrity of their bike to one of those giant Diesel trucks to do
that. I just want to plug in there that we need to be thinking about the
changing bike trends that we see in the community when we are
planning out this infrastructure. It is really frustrating to not have a
safe place to take those bikes when you have little kids. Eric –
Comment – That is good feedback. Thank you.
8. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS
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a. Barry – Barry was interested in learning more about the concept of Fort
Collins becoming a dark sky city. He shared that the lights from Fort Collins
have grown and dominate the sky. It also has a negative effect on migrating
birds. They can see it from their cabin in the mountains. Honore shared the
link to the webpage regarding this topic. Honore will add it to the planning
calendar for NRAB.
b. Kevin – Regarding the proposed changes to the Bicycle Advisory Committee,
during the 1st reading, Council did unanimously vote to move it to an Active
Modes Board. That will go to a second reading around the beginning of the
year.
c. Matt – Matt was interested in hearing more about the progress on the ground
water contamination at the Larimer County Landfill but was not sure if it was in
NRABs purview.
9. STAFF REPORTS
a. Honore – Changes came last night regarding boards and commissions. There
will be a new manual, flexibility for one or more boards to meet after Council
liaison approval, and terms changes for members.
10. OTHER BUSINESS
a. Six Month Calendar Review
• October
• Economic Health Strategic Plan; Circular Economy
• Budgeting/Strategic Plan
• NRAB 2021 Work Plan – due Nov 30
• November
• Discuss Council priority setting (input and influence)
• Strategic memo on Council priority setting
• NRAB 2024 Work Plan – due Nov 30
• ESD Background/Overview & Input on restructuring (Honore
+ ESD Lead Team & Director)
• Larimer County Landfill
• Advancing Transit Initiatives Update
• Only if input is desired and helpful prior to Dec 12
Work Session
• December
• Strategic memo on Council priority setting
• Night Sky Initiative
• Other business
• End of Year Report
• Water Supply Requirement fee discussion
11. ADJOURNMENT
a. (8:11 pm)
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09/20/2023 – MINUTES
Minutes approved by a vote of the Board/Commission on XX/XX/XX
Headline Copy Goes Here
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Boards and Commissions Input for the 2024 Strategic Plan
•Input part #1 – The What
-What do the City’s Outcomes mean to you?
o Think of the specific Outcomes most applicable to your Board or Commission
o For the selected Outcome(s), how would you define it or describe it to your neighbor?
•Input part #2 – The How
-Thinking about those definitions, what could the City do to better achieve
those Outcomes?
•Optional action: Convey your group’s thoughts on these questions
-Submit memos to:
o lpollack@fcgov.com
o aresseguie@fcgov.com
-Inputs due by Friday 17 November
DRAFTMEMORANDUM
FROM THE CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
DATE:November 15,2023
TO:Mayor and City Council Members
FROM:Dawson Metcalf on behalf of the Natural Resources Advisory Board
SUBJECT:Natural Resources Advisory Board (NRAB)2023 Annual Work Plan
Subject to further Council guidance,the general topics we anticipate covering in 2024 include:
●Reviewing City policies and planning initiatives for consistency with the City’s
environmental goals and values,supported by Our Climate Future,through the principles
of sustainability,via regular and subcommittee meetings;
●Addressing specific policies,plans and regulations by participating in task forces
and special committees such as the Our Climate Future teams,Active Modes Plan,
Bicycle Advisory Board,Regional Wasteshed Plan,1041 Powers planning,and providing
feedback to Staff as a result of such participation;
●Developing recommendations to Council through Board discussion and consensus,
followed by written memoranda and periodic attendance at Council meetings or hearings;
●Coordinating activities with other City Boards and Commissions as needed,such
as the Air Quality,Energy,Economic,Water,Land Conservation and Stewardship,Parks
and Recreation,and Transportation Boards.
This work plan (attached)identifies issues that we anticipate will be considered by the NRAB
during the year 2024.Of the Seven Key Outcome areas in the Fort Collins Strategic Plan,
Environmental Health,Safe Community (particularly as it relates to water resources),
Transportation and Mobility,Culture and Recreation,as well as Neighborhood Liveability and
Social Health will largely shape our work.Our priority action items fall into the umbrella
categories of:Waste Reduction and Recycling;Water Resources;Land Use and Low Impact
Development,Climate Action Plan/Energy,Transportation Planning,.
Other related issues will be addressed by the Board as they are brought before us by Council,
Staff,or our own observations with the goal of providing timely input,using Council’s six-month
calendar and Policy Agenda to help determine agenda items for our meetings.Finally,as
appropriate,we will identify opportunities to promote sustainability in the face of COVID-19
impacts,including remote work,alternate transportation,and realigning budget priorities.
DRAFTWelookforwardtoaproductiveyearofvolunteerservicetoCouncil,the citizens of Fort
Collins,and our environment.Within the constraints of an advisory board,we will employ our
knowledge,talents,and passions to the best of our abilities.
As always,please feel free to contact us with any comments or questions regarding our work
plan for 2023.
Dawson Metcalf
Chair,Natural Resources Advisory Board
cc:Kelly DiMartino,City Manager
Jacob Castillo,Chief Sustainability Officer
Honore Depew,Climate Program Manager
Julie Pignataro,City Council Liaison to the NRAB
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DRAFTNRAB2024WorkPlan
The main purpose of the NRAB is to help ensure the Sustainability of Our Community,i.e.,to
systematically,creatively,and thoughtfully utilize environmental,human,and economic
resources to meet our present needs and those of future generations without compromising the
ecosystems on which we depend.We will also strongly consider human health in crafting our
recommendations.We work closely with other boards and actively engage in joint board
initiatives to encourage the goals of high functioning government and high impact civic
engagement.To address these goals,the NRAB has identified the following areas of specific
interest in 2024,with an overall view of integrating the principles of sustainability in each target
area:
1)Waste Reduction and Recycling
The NRAB is excited to provide input and leadership on implementation of the Regional
Wasteshed Plan as part of “Our Climate Future”,including:monitoring and responding to
impacts of the Cameron Peak fire on the lifespan of the landfill;hauling services oversight;
Timberline Recycling Center;Community Recycling Ordinance (extending recycling services);
Community Composting Project;education campaigns to increase residential and commercial
recycling;mandatory recycling of construction debris and Hoffman Mills Road grinding facility;
expansion of multi-family recycling;and expansion of commercial recycling.
As needed,we will also review and comment on:hazardous waste or spills,toxic substances,air
and water pollution prevention and remediation programs;and associated community outreach
and education.
2)Water Resources
The NRAB will focus on the variety of city-wide water resource issues including:Water Supply
Vulnerability Assessment;the Stormwater Master Plan;Low Impact Development (LID)
requirements for development and Metro Districts;Greywater Ordinance Development;and
monitoring and reporting of water quality in Fossil Creek,Spring Creek,and the Poudre River.
NRAB will continue to monitor and coordinate with Staff and other boards'review of water
related projects and issues;e.g.,NISP/Glade,City of Fort Collins Water Conservation Plan,
Development of 1041 Regulations,Thornton Pipeline,and Halligan/Seaman Reservoir
Expansion.The NRAB will also review and monitor fire,spill and flooding impacts on water
supply and storm and wastewater discharges.
We will continue to review and comment on policies and funding affecting the health of the
Poudre River ’s ecology,including Poudre River restoration and stabilization projects;health of
aquatic organisms;Downtown River Master Plan;river rehabilitation projects;and Poudre River
ecosystem modeling and health status projects.As appropriate,we will also look at near-river
water resources such as gravel pits.We may also review city policies with respect to
xeriscaping,permaculture,and urban agriculture,“keyline”irrigating,and other actions that
promote more efficient water use.
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DRAFTAsappropriate,the NRAB will work together with the Water Commission to provide input on
water,wastewater and stormwater policy issues as they pertain to the goals for the City and the
City’s Climate Action Plan and inform Our Climate Future.
3)Energy/Climate Action
NRAB will review and comment on energy and climate-centered issues and work to identify
opportunities and needs to ensure equity and inclusion in each of these initiatives.The NRAB
will work with the Energy and Economic Health Boards to provide input on the Climate
Economy Action Plan,Metro District incentives,EV Readiness Roadmap.Specific areas of
consideration include:energy efficient development (e.g.,building codes that can contribute to
CAP goals);plastic pollution;transitioning PRPA power facilities from coal and natural gas to
renewable energy sources;residential and small-scale commercial solar rebate program;ongoing
conservation and efficiency programs;and community solar gardens.
As appropriate,the NRAB will work together with the Air Quality Board,Energy Board,and
Transportation Board to provide input on the greenhouse gas emission goals for the City and the
City’s Climate Action Plan and inform Our Climate Future.
4)Transportation Planning
With the goal of reducing emissions,improving public health,safety,and the transportation
experience for citizens,NRAB will review and contribute to local and regional issues affecting
transportation planning in cooperation with the Transportation Board,Bicycle Advisory
Committee,and others noted below.This includes specific support for revising and
implementing the Active Modes Plan,with a push for aggressive mode shift goals (away from
single occupant travel).Ongoing focus will remain on advocating on behalf of all citizens on the
criticality of safe pedestrian and bicycle design and function across the city.Focus will further
be placed on opportunities to increase connectivity across and between all potential corridors and
trail surfaces,whether soft surface or paved,to increase routes supporting alternate modes of
transportation.Based on an important and logical connection between transportation and access
to nature,NRAB will also participate in planning and implementation activities related to the
Natural Areas Plan and the Parks &Recreation Master Plan.
5)Circular Economy
NRAB will review and comment on circular economy practices as it pertains to the Economic
Health Outcome of the City of Fort Collins’Strategic Plan.NRAB views the further inclusion of
circular economy practices as significant for fostering sustainable economic growth while
reducing environmental impact and elevating the resilience and resource-efficiency of the Fort
Collins community.This includes,but not limited to,advocating for platforms that promote
sustainable consumption and purchasing;policies and incentives for more local green jobs;
requirements for utilizing sustainable materials in construction.
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DRAFT6)Other Related Issues
a.Nature in the City:The NRAB is excited about the Nature in the City program.The NRAB
will look for opportunities to explore public-private partnerships to enhance “natural”areas
available to city residents.
b.Local Agriculture:Explore issues and ideas in the local agriculture and food security
movements including the Northern Colorado Foodshed Project.
c.Oil and Gas:Monitor environmental issues related to oil and gas development in Fort Collins.
d.Night Sky Protection and Outdoor Lighting Requirements:Monitor environmental issues
related to impact of outdoor lighting.
e.Participate in the Bicycle Advisory Committee,with specific focus on the revised Active
Modes Plan.
f.Equity:Work to advance equity in our community to lessen the negative impacts of climate
change on vulnerable populations,enhance vulnerable populations’ability to access nature and
support environmental stewardship,and ensure the wellbeing of the greatest number of residents.
g.Rights of Nature for the Cache la Poudre River:Explore issues and ideas regarding the
development and implementation of a Rights of Nature framework for the Cache la Poudre
River.
h.Resilient Urban Forest:Work to enhance and maintain an urban forest that is resilient in the
face of climate change to positively impact the social well-being and physical health of
community members.This includes the effective implementation of the Emerald Ash Borer
Management and Response Plan.
i.15-Minute City Concept Priority:Advocate for the implementation of development practices
that facilitate the 15-minute city concept.This includes monitoring the impacts of new updates to
the Land Use Code.
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