HomeMy WebLinkAboutLand Use Review Commission - Minutes - 05/11/2023
Ian Shuff, Chair
Dave Lawton, Vice Chair
David Carron
Nathaniel Coffman
John McCoy
Philip San Filippo
Katie Vogel
Council Liaison: Shirley Peel
Staff Liaison: Noah Beals
LOCATION:
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300 Laporte Avenue
Fort Collins, CO 80521
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REGULAR MEETING
MAY 11, 2023
8:30 AM
• CALL TO ORDER and ROLL CALL
All Commission members were present with the exception of member Vogel.
• APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETING
Commission member Lawton made a motion, seconded by San Filippo to approve the April 13,
2023, Regular Hearing Minutes. The motion was adopted, with Coffman voting to abstain.
• CITIZEN PARTICIPATION (Items Not on the Agenda)
-None-
• APPEALS FOR VARIANCE TO THE LAND USE CODE
1. APPEAL ZBA230008
Address: 1415 Blue Spruce Dr.
Owner: Blue Ocean Real Estate Management LLC
Petitioner: Dan Olind, General Contractor, ETC Contracting
Zoning District: C-S
Code Section: 3.8.11(C)(3)
Project Description:
This is a request to install an 8-foot-tall fence in the side yard and rear yard setback area; the
maximum height permitted is 6 feet.
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MEETING MINUTES
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Staff Presentation:
Beals presented slides relevant to the appeal and discussed the variance request, noting that the
property is at the corner of Bristlecone Dr. and Blue Spruce Dr. The request is to build a fence that
incorporates the rear yard and side yards of the property.
The need for the variance is that the code only allows for a 6-foot fence, while the request is for an 8-
foot fence. The proposed fence is intended only for security purposes and is not intended to provided
screening for additional outdoor storage.
The fence would be placed along the north side of the property, starting at the northeast corner of the
building, and continuing directly north to the easement. From the easement line, the fence would
extend west along the easement to just past existing drive aisle. From then, extending south to the
south property line and the easement. The fence would extend to the head of existing parking spaces
and then return north to the building.
The request for the variance is for an additional 2 feet of height for the fencing, for a total of 8 feet,
which is not permitted by code at this time. There will be two gates that will go across the drive aisles
on the north and south, as well as pedestrian gates along the side of the building. The proposed fence
would be made with chain-link, with rolling gates that roll across the drive aisle then back in place.
Beals presented pictures of the property currently, noting various views that show the unfe nced corner
and street-facing lot. The fence is intended for security purposes; Beals noted this area does have
some vehicles and campers that are currently parked on the street and are occupied.
Applicant Presentation:
Applicants Dan Olind, ETC Contracting, Representing Blue Ocean, addressed the Commission and
offered comment. Olind added that the proposed fence would be vinyl-wrapped with black material, in
an effort to add visual appeal rather than standard gray chain link. Olind also commented that the
immediate area is heavily trafficked and populated by individuals experiencing homelessness, and
some security concerns have been raised, such as vehicles being targeted for theft while still
occupied. Olind also noted that staff on-site have raised concerns regarding their personal safety.
Olind also described that the proposed fence would design would also add an additional gate on the
west side to improve lot functionality. The gates will all be locked.
Commission member Lawton asked Olind what the extra two feet of fence height being re quested
would provide over the standard 6-foot fence? Olind stated that the extra height could act as a
deterrent to potential acts of criminality, as the extra height might be too high to reasonably scale for
one or two individuals. Additionally, other neighboring properties already have 8-foot security fences
installed.
Public Comment:
-None-
Commission Discussion:
Commission member Coffman stated that he had no problem with the request, noting that it would
match the character of the neighborhood, and seems nominal and inconsequential.
Commission member Lawton agreed with the comments offered by Coffman, adding that from a
standpoint of safety the proposed fence would increase the safety of those on-site as well as those
that may attempt to trespass.
Chair Shuff agreed, noting that the proposal is nominal and inconsequential, and appreciates the
efforts to use vinyl wrap to increase visual appeal, and understands the need for improved safety and
security on behalf of the business.
Commission member Coffman made a motion, seconded by San Filippo, to APPROVE
ZBA230008 for the following reasons: the variance is not detrimental to the public good; the
fence is not required for screening; the fence is setback at least 9 feet away from the sidewalk
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and outside of the utility easement. Therefore, the variance request will not diverge from the
standard but in a nominal, inconsequential way, when considered in the context of the
neighborhood, and will continue to advance the purpose of the Land Use Code contained in
Section 1.2.2
Yeas: Carron, Shuff, Coffman, San Filippo, McCoy, Lawton Nays: Absent:
THE MOTION CARRIED, THE ITEM WAS APPROVED
2. APPEAL ZBA230009
Address: 318 N Sherwood St.
Owner/Petitioner: Jason Harrington
Zoning District: N-C-M
Code Section: 4.8(D)(5), 4.8(E)(6)(a), 4.8(F)(1)(d)
Project Description:
This is a request for three variances for a new accessory building with habitable space:
1. Request for the total floor area for an accessory building with habitable space to be 1,198 square
feet; the maximum square footage allowed is 600 square feet.
2. Request to exceed the eave height for an accessory building with habitable space by 4 feet 6
inches; the maximum allowed height is 13 feet.
3. Request to have a portion of the second floor overhang the first-floor front wall.
Staff Presentation:
Beals presented slides relevant to the appeal and discussed the variance request, noting that the
property is near the corner of Sherwood and N Cherry St, approximately three lots south from the
corner.
The request is to build an accessory building on the rear of the lot. Beals presented images of the
existing conditions on the property, as well as the proposed additions. Beals explained that
renovations shown for the primary residence are not included in the request today, as it is concerned
only with the proposed accessory building.
Additional images were presented of the proposed floor plan; Beals explained the first floor would be
primarily garage space, with a small, covered patio area beneath the proposed second -story
overhang. The second floor includes habitable space. Beals explained that the primary difference
between an accessory building with habitable space and a carriage house is the presence of a kitchen
in the latter.
In this case, the request does not include any plans for a kitchen. Therefore, the structure is
considered to be an accessory building with habitable space, which also means the occupants in the
primary building and the accessory building may not exceed the U+2 occupancy standards, which
means no more than three unrelated adults may live in the buildings, or if it is a family in one of the
buildings, they may only have one additional occupant. If this were a carriage house, those two
buildings would act independently under U+2.
Beals presented elevations of the proposed building, noting that the west elevation will be facing the
primary residence. Beals explained that for this type of structure, the side facing the primary residence
is considered the “front”. There is an overhang that happens on the front side of the proposed
structure. The east, or alley-facing side is considered the rear, and thus an overhang would be
allowable.
Additionally, the proposed eave height exceeds the 13-foot allowance for the upper story. There is
some allowance for a dormer to occur with an eave height greater than 13 feet, but the dormer is
required to be no more than 25% of the wall width below it. The proposed dormer exceeds this.
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The third variance request concerns exceeding the allowable floor area. Beals explained that the floor
area allowed by Code is 600 square feet. Floor area is calculated at 100% of the floor area of the first
story, plus any floor area on the second floor that is beneath a ceiling height of 7.5 feet or greater. The
proposed second-story ceiling height is over 7.5 feet; thus, the entire area counts towards the
allowable floor area. If the ceiling height were to be reduced to below 7.5 feet, that area would not
count against the maximum. There is also an allowance for a carriage house to go up to 1,000 square
feet, but that is a means to incentivize the building of carriage houses as a means of increasing
available housing stock in a neighborhood.
The Code does allow for an additional 250 square feet of floor area on the lot as a whole when an
accessory unit is present; however, this does apply to the accessory unit itself, which is still held to the
600 sq ft maximum as stated in the Code. The additional square footage allows for structures like a
garage to be built to the alley, etc.
Chair Shuff asked Beals to clarify that because the proposed structure does not include a kitchen, it is
considered a detached structure with habitable space and would not qualify as a carriage house. Shuff
also asked Beals if the eave-height standard is the same for both carriage houses and detached
structures with habitable space.
Beals responded that the eave height standard is usually at 10-feet, but when water/sewer are added
to an accessory building, the eave height can then be increased to 13 feet. If water and/or sewer are
not added, the eave height must be maintained at 10 feet.
Shuff asked Beals to explain the intent of this code provision. Beals explained that provision may have
originally stemmed from allowances given to carriage houses, but there is also an understanding that
this allows the convenience of having a bathroom/washroom in an accessory building , as some folks
may need a washroom adjacent to hobby space or desire a bathroom be closer than the primary
residence.
Shuff asked if the eave height is in place to maintain neighborhood compatibility; Beals confirmed that
the eave height standard is intended to ensure neighborhood compatibility amongst individual lots and
structures.
Shuff asked if this lot technically could this lot be subdivided due to its size? If it is a question of scale,
perhaps the lot could be subdivided to allow for the intended structure. Beals responded that the
minimal lot width needed to subdivide may be a challenge in this instance. In N-C-M zone district,
minimum lot size for a carriage house is 10,000 sq ft. In the N-C-L, it is 12,000 sq ft.
Commission member Lawton asked Beals to clarify - this is not a carriage house because it does not
have a cooking space? Beals indicated Lawton’s understanding to be correct, noting that if cooking
appliances are not included the structure is no longer considered a “dwelling unit” but is instead an
“accessory building with habitable space”. If standards were met, the applicant would be able to pull a
building permit now. In this case, the design requires some variances to be approved prior to obtaining
a building permit.
Lawton noted that the only element missing from the proposed structure is a cooking space; the plan
does include a refrigerator, dining area, and dishwasher. The intent seems to be that people would be
using the space fully to eat and prepare meals. Beals noted the occupants can’t exceed the U+2 rules
for whomever is living on the property, so the advantage of a carriage house would be that U+2 would
apply to each structure independently. There are additional plan review and development costs
associated with a carriage house, whereas a dwelling unit requires capital extension fees.
Lawton observed occupants of the property could easily add a microwave or similar after the fact.
Beals indicated that if complaints were received, the property would need to be investigated for
unauthorized alterations and/or occupancy concerns.
Commission member Coffman asked if the overhang ordinance applies to all structures on the lot. And
is the purpose to not to have an overhang at the front of the lot? Beals answered that the code does
not differentiate between the two structures. It is also a character element of that zone district to not
have upper stories overhang the first story.
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Shuff commented that the other nuance present with these types of buildings is ceiling height.
Typically, what is allowed per code is that if a second-story ceiling is below 7.5 inches, you don’t have
to count floor area below that ceiling against the maximum allowed. Code is written wherein ceiling
height is tied to eave height. If ceiling height and eave height were reduced, this proposal may not
even need a variance.
Applicant Presentation:
Applicants Jason Harrington, 1006 W Mulberry, addressed the Commission and offered comment.
Harrington noted for the record that he is the General Contractor, working on behalf of property
owners Steve and Theresa Bins. Harrington explained that the owners are first looking to renovate the
main house on the property, and temporarily live in the proposed accessory structure during the
renovations.
The applicants have owned the home for 8-10 years and are now wanting to age in place and are
building their retirement home and want to increase their first floor living area. After renovations to the
main house are completed and they have moved back in, t he proposed structure would then be used
for their adult children and their families during visits.
Harrington noted that the carriage house option was explored, but the added expenses and
complexities were not feasible for the applicants at this time. The option may be re-considered in the
future as the need for a caretaker or others to be living on-site present themselves.
Describing the roof slope, Harrington explained that his understanding of the reasoning for increased
eave height in the design is due to the fact that the structure is 24 feet from the south property line and
16 feet from the north property line. In other parts of the building code, eave height is allowed to
increase at a set ratio based on increase in setback. Because of this expanded setback, eave height
has been increased to give a sense that the roofline slopes back to maintain a reasonably scaled
profile.
Harrington stated the reason for the overhang being included is because the homeowner is a
woodworker, and the first floor is planned as a workshop. The porch area below the overhang could be
used seasonally for outdoor saw use and storage, etc. Some of the design theory is an attempt to
stretch the footprint of the building so as to stretch the profile as it moves upward.
Three dimensional renderings of the building as it would sit on the property were presented by
Harrington for neighborhood context. Harrington also commented that all current accessory buildings
on the property are planned to be moved/removed. Landscaping and hardscaping would then be put
in place within the yard.
Before Harrington was involved, the owners contracted with an architect and went through an initial
review with the Zoning Department approximately 1.5 years ago. During the meeting, plans were
reviewed and intended uses were discussed, and the applicants left with the understanding that the
proposed building would be approved. In terms of hardship, concept drawings were presented and felt
like they were feasible. Harrington commented that as the project moves forward, more costs are
expended for things like engineering, plan development, etc. Harrington indicated that the plans were
initially based on a carriage house concept, but City Staff counseled them to re-present the plan as an
accessory building as the structure was not intended to function as a rental unit. Based on this, all
plans were re-labelled to indicate the building as an accessory structure. At this time, the customer is
selling their existing house and closing on June 5th, and they are needing to live in the existing house
prior to renovation, though that was not the intent because the project has taken so long.
If the eave height needs to be changed and re-permitted and re-designed, it could potentially push the
timeframe for completion back by approximately 9 months.
Harrington stated that he believed there to be a discrepancy in interpretation for how square footage is
calculated, saying that the Code doesn’t actually state that a 600 square foot maximum. According to
Harrington’s interpretation, the first 250 square feet of an accessory building are not counted in the
total of the lot, meaning that an accessory building could potentially be up to 850 square feet.
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Harrington commented that there has always been an awareness that the Code is understood to be
changing, so the building is now being planned to conform with the new proposed guidelines and a
1,000 square foot maximum. Harrington believes that the proposed structure would comply with the
proposed updated Land Use Code.
Additionally, Harrington stated that he believes that the proposed structure is consistent with the
character of the neighborhood. While walking through the neighborhood, Harrington stated that he
sees similar structures that exploit the dormer issue that is tied with setback and eave heights .
Therefore, the proposed structure would not be inconsistent with the neighborhood. Harrington
presented multiple images of structures within the neighborhood that may not comply and/or have
similar variances than what is being requested. Harrington argued that if code is apparently not being
enforced on some of these structures, then it ceases to be considered a law.
Ceiling heights could be reduced in order to reduce the calculated floor area, but that wouldn’t really
change the outside dimensions. The height would still need to be maintained at 23 feet 10 inches to
create attic space. Harrington questions if that would really be the best for the community, to create
structures with sub-standard heights. Changing eave height would force a full re-design and is not
feasible.
Chair Shuff began discussion, asking if Harrington or the designer were aware of the code
requirements around eave height? Those elements have always been present in the Code. Harrington
stated that he became involved in the project around December 2022.Harrington noted read the code
when the notice was published. As a builder, he is not typically involved with zoning code and was n ot
involved in the design phase. Shuff gain asked simply if Harrington was aware of the code
requirements specific to these structures.
Olexa Tkachenko, Architect, DNA Design and Architecture, 407 Center Drive, provided background
and information pertaining to some of the previous questions raised during discussion. Tkachenko
stated that as a professional Architect, he has a responsibility to work within a community responsibly.
In terms of the 13-foot eave height, Tkachenko commented that he was aware of the code. Tkachenko
asserted that what code actually states is that a 13-foot eave height can be exceeded so long as the
walls are set in a minimum of 2 feet. The proposed walls are set in 3 feet. The design must also
include a dormer with a width of 25% or less of the total wall width.
Tkachenko stated that when he was working on the design, he did speak with City Staff and discussed
this element. In working with the Planning Dept, this the intent of this section of the Code is to prevent
looming structures that impose on the privacy of neighbors. The goal of the design is to minimize
massing; Tkachenko explained that the limiting factor is not so much the 13-foot eave height but is
instead the 24-foot maximum building height. The proposed structure is within the allowable height,
and a dormer element is not included as it immediately implies a gable-ended roof. A gable-ended roof
facing north and south actually brings the ridge higher. The hip roof provides a lower profile, and
attempts were made to minimize the height to maintain the character of the primary structure. The
accessory structure is placed nearly on the mid-line of the property. All of these factors were
considered in an attempt to minimize massing of the structure on the property.
Regarding the variance request for additional square footage, Tkachenko stated that the request is not
actually for additional square footage – the upper level is there, no denial. Ceiling height determining
floor area is arbitrary. FAR for the property calculates out. The actual request is for additional ceiling
height and not actually additional square footage. There is no attempt to manipulate math or square
footage – the ceiling height is actually at the core of the request, as the second story floor area exists
regardless of the ceiling height. A ceiling height lower than 7.5 feet is not the best design so lution for
occupants.
Lastly, regarding the proposed overhang, Tkachenko asserted that the discrepancy is based on a
definition of frontage. The primary home has a frontage along Sherman Street. At the rear of the lot
there is an alley, and an alley is a public minor-way according to code. Thus, Tkachenko interprets the
proposed accessory building as having frontage to the alley. One would not typically face a
leisure/private patio that faces an alley, so the overhang was placed facing the primary residence. The
alley is the “frontage” for the proposed building.
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Shuff asked for the specific height of the proposed eave, from grade, as it is variously marked as 18
feet in plans while the variance request denotes an eave height of 17.5 feet. Tkachenko and
Harrington conferred, indicating that the eave height measures out to 17.5 feet. Tkachenko also
indicated that he was not looking for variance approval based on precedent set by existing alley
buildings but is instead attempting to design the best structure for the lot and clients’ needs.
Public Comment:
Mary Bashkin, 314 N Sherwood, commented that there was a concern regarding the west -facing wall
and windows being proposed, as they will be looking directly into their yard. Bashkin indicated that
many of their concerns could have been alleviated had they been able to speak with the property
owners ahead of receiving the notice of appeal, which was their first indication that the project was
taking place. She indicated that many of their concerns had been alleviated based on the information
put forth during this hearing.
Bashkin stated that her only remaining concern had to do with privacy within their own yard, as the
proposed structure has windows with a clear view of Bashkin’s yard. Bashkin asked the applicants if
the property owners might consider a fence and/or vegetation for installation between the properties
as a means of creating a privacy barrier.
Beals made the commission aware that Mary Bashkin had submitted written materials detailing her
concerns as well, and those materials had been made available to the members of the Commission
and were included in the hearing packet. Mary Bashkin commented that their letter was sent before
the scope of the project was fully understood.
Commission Discussion:
Chair Shuff asked for clarification regarding interpretation of the code as put forth by the applicant.
How does the 2:1 ratio of wall eave height/setback work? Beals clarified that this this ONLY applies to
the primary structure and applies to the 18-foot maximum wall height of a primary structure and is not
applicable to accessory structures. The code allows for an additional 1-foot of wall height for each 2-
feet of additional setback.
Shuff commented that examples shown by applicant had eaves that exceeded the 13-foot eave height
requirement. Beals responded that it is not possible to explain why every example was created. Some
may be compliant with the Code, others not. Can’t determine what exactly occurred in each instance
without specific investigation. Some may be why the code was written. The way the Code is written
today, there needs to be an eave height of 13 feet for an accessory building with water/sewer and/or
habitable space. There is an allowance for a dormer to exceed that eave height if it is set back two feet
from the face of the wall below if the dormer is no more than 25% of the width of the wall. This can
often allow for the placement of a bathroom, as it allows enough height and width for a tub or s hower.
Alternatively, it can allow enough space for an entry door to be installed on the second story.
Commission member Lawton stated that despite the previous history, the charge of the Commission
here today is to follow the current code. Lawton unders tands the architectural intent of the proposed
structure. However, he is struggling with the number of variances that are being requested today that
are outside of code standards.
Commission member Coffman stated the aggregate of the variances is significant and wouldn’t allow
for nominal and inconsequential justification. Nothing about the lot shape or size would qualify for
hardship justification. Eaves and overhangs on both sides of proposed structure don’t jive with equal
to or better than. For these reasons, Coffman is having a hard time with granting approval.
Lawton observed that the main structure has a lot of renovations, so a lot of building square footage
appears to be already accounted for/created on the lot. Beals stated that the assumption is that the
applicant would bring something forward that meets the allowable floor area requirements for the lot.
Commission member McCoy stated that for his consideration, the size of the lot allows the variance to
move forward. Most requests that we see are right up against the lot lines. This one would have a
lessened effect on the neighbors due to the placement of the structure. McCoy believes the total
project is good for the neighborhood and would raise surrounding values. McCoy stated he would
favor approving the variances.
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Commission member San Filippo commented that variances for existing structures are difficult. In
cases of new construction, one should attempt to avoid as many variances as possible. San Filippo
can sympathize with wanting to age in place and renovations to do so. However, it may result in
square footage that is more than what is appropriate for the lot. At least two of the variances being
requested could be avoided and therefore San Filippo does have a problem with approving the
variance requests included in the application.
Commission member Carron commented that he agrees that as the Code is written, the distinction
between carriage house and accessory building with habitable space can be muddied. Overhangs and
increased floor area may be considered to be nominal and inconsequential. However, the building
height may be the most concerning element of the proposed design.
Shuff appreciates the efforts and explanations provided by the applicant and representatives .
However, he is still struggling with the need for certain specific types of structures (carriage house,
accessory structures.) to comply with standards are place. What is the equity if this building is allowed,
and others are not? Why do we have land use codes in place if they are not complied with? When
attempting to apply each of the three standards, this proposal becomes hard to justify. If code were
complied with in the initial designs, they may not even have to be here today to request variances.
Lawton added that the design could be modified to comply with the Code while still providing value to
the neighborhood and age in place capability. The building is not yet built and therefore could be re -
designed for compliance while still maintaining the desired functionality.
Coffman made a motion, seconded by Lawton, to DENY ZBA230009 for the following reasons:
there has been insufficient showing of exceptional physical conditions or exceptional
situations unique to this property; exceptional or undue hardship to the occupant or applicant;
that the proposal would promote the general purpose of the standard; or th at the proposal will
not diverge from the Land Use Code except in a nominal, inconsequential way.
Yeas: Carron, Shuff, Coffman, San Filippo, Lawton Nays: McCoy Absent: Vogel
THE MOTION CARRIED, THE ITEM WAS DENIED
• OTHER BUSINESS
• ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:50am.
Meeting Minutes were approved at the July 13, 2023 LURC Regular Meeting. All members voted
to approve with the exception of Coffman and Vogel, who were both absent.