HomeMy WebLinkAboutHistoric Preservation Commission - Minutes - 10/19/2022Historic Preservation Commission Page 1 October 19, 2022
Kurt Knierim, Chair City Council Chambers
Jim Rose, Vice Chair City Hall West
Margo Carlock 300 Laporte Avenue
Meg Dunn Fort Collins, Colorado
And Remotely Via Zoom
Walter Dunn
Eric Guenther
Anne Nelsen
Jenna Edwards
Bonnie Gibson
Regular Meeting
October 19, 2022
Minutes
• CALL TO ORDER
Chair Knierim called the meeting to order at 5:32 p.m.
• ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Margo Carlock, Meg Dunn, Walter Dunn, Jenna Edwards, Bonnie Gibson, Eric
Guenther, Kurt Knierim, Anne Nelsen, Jim Rose
ABSENT: None
STAFF: Maren Bzdek, Jim Bertolini, Claire Havelda, Yani Jones, Melissa Matsunaka
Chair Knierim welcomed new Commission members Jenna Edwards and Bonnie Gibson.
• AGENDA REVIEW
Ms. Bzdek stated two items were removed from the agenda since it was originally posted.
• CONSENT AGENDA REVIEW
No items were pulled from consent.
• STAFF REPORTS ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None.
Historic
Preservation
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• CONSENT AGENDA
[Timestamp: 5:34 p.m.]
1. CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 21, 2022
The purpose of this item is to approve the minutes from the September 21, 2022 regular meeting
of the Historic Preservation Commission.
2. 809 W MOUNTAIN - SINGLE-FAMILY DEMOLITION NOTICE
The purpose of this item is to approve the Single-Family Demolition Notice for 809 W Mountain
Street.
3. 700 E ELIZABETH – SINGLE-FAMILY DEMOLITION NOTICE
The purpose of this item is to approve the Single-Family Demolition Notice for 700 E Elizabeth Street.
Jim Rose moved that the Historic Preservation Commission approve the Consent Agenda of
the September 21, 2022 regular meeting as presented.
Anne Nelsen seconded. The motion passed 9-0.
[Timestamp: 5:35 p.m.]
• DISCUSSION AGENDA
4. REPORT ON STAFF ACTIVITIES SINCE THE LAST MEETING
DESCRIPTION: Staff is tasked with an array of different responsibilities including code-
required project review decisions on historic properties, support to other
standing and special work groups across the City organization, and
education & outreach programming. This report will provide highlights for the
benefit of Commission members and the public, and for transparency
regarding decisions made without the input of the Historic Preservation
Commission (HPC).
STAFF: Jim Bertolini, Senior Historic Preservation Planner
Staff Report
Mr. Bertolini reported on the activities on the past couple of weeks. He provided Education and
Outreach highlights, such as the Civil Rights Community Meeting, Museo Adobe remudding, and the
upcoming Women’s Suffrage Events.
Public Input
None.
[Timestamp: 5:38 p.m.]
5. 220 REMINGTON ST (BODE PROPERTY) CONCEPTUAL LANDMARK DESIGN REVIEW
DESCRIPTION: This item is to provide a conceptual review of a proposed rear addition for the
City Landmark at 220 Remington St., the Bode Property. The owner is seeking
initial feedback regarding their concept designs and their consistency with the
US Secretary of the Interior’s Standards for Rehabilitation prior to
commissioning construction drawings and seeking final approval from the
HPC.
APPLICANT: Dr. Jenna Slootmaker (owner)
Chris Aronson, VFLA (design professional/architect)
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(**Secretary’s Note: Member Nelsen withdrew from the discussion of this item due to a conflict of
interest.)
Staff Report
Jim Bertolini presented the staff report for the conceptual review for a proposed addition to the City
landmark at 220 Remington Street. He showed slides of the property and noted the original footprint
has been in place since 1901 with the exception of a very small shed addition that was later removed.
Mr. Bertolini outlined the role of the Commission and discussed the history of the property, which was
designated in 2014 under standard three for design and construction. He noted the project received
a grant from the City’s design assistance program and he discussed the design concept provided with
that assistance. He noted the applicant found that design would not meet the desired needs and
therefore designed an alternative plan.
Mr. Bertolini outlined the applicant’s proposal for an 850-square-foot rear addition that would attach
onto and wrap around the northeast corner of the property. He stated staff’s overall analysis of the
conceptual design is that it is generally consistent with the Secretary of Interior standards for
rehabilitation.
Applicant Presentation:
Dr. Jenna Slootmaker, property owner, presented the applicant presentation. She discussed the
challenges of the small space related to her dental practice.
Chris Aronson, VFLA, presented the applicant presentation. He discussed the challenges of the small
space for a medical office, including having an ADA restroom, lab room, a larger sterilization area and
an adequate break room to help with staff retention. Additionally, the design seeks to maintain the
proper parking lot depth. He also noted the design has changed to keep the north wall at or inside
the existing wall.
Commission Questions and Discussion
Chair Knierim discussed the applicable Secretary of Interior standards.
Member M. Dunn asked Mr. Aronson about the response to the design assistance program. Mr.
Aronson replied the design assistance program design was not large enough and abutted to a portion
of the building where there was a desire to maintain a window. He stated that design did not seem to
delineate enough between the new architecture and the historic architecture.
Member M. Dunn commended the applicant’s addition of the hyphen. She asked about the roof on
the design assistance version. Mr. Aronson replied the ceiling height was too low.
Member M. Dunn asked about the applicant’s proposal to place the gabled roof over the exam rooms.
Mr. Aronson replied one of the goals was to enhance the patient experience through taller ceilings
and additional natural light.
Chair Knierim requested the Commission discuss standard two.
Member Rose stated the applicant’s proposal achieves a better articulation of new versus old and is
compatible yet distinctive. Member Carlock concurred.
Member M. Dunn stated the proposal works well in terms of this standard particularly because it
leaves more of the original building exposed and allows for reversibility. She stated she believes it is
appropriate to remove the mud porch in this case.
Chair Knierim requested the Commission discuss standard three.
Member M. Dunn asked about the proposed siding material. Mr. Aronson replied he wants the
Commission to weigh in on whether painted lap siding or corrugated metal would be more
appropriate.
Member M. Dunn stated metal is more of an industrial material and she would be concerned about its
use.
Member Rose asked if the metal would be installed horizontally or vertically. Mr. Aronson replied it
would likely be vertical, but that could still be explored, as could be the color.
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Member Rose stated he would be concerned about the use of metal, though he does believe it is
necessary to depart from the painted brick to make a distinction.
Member Carlock agreed the metal siding may not be appropriate and she suggested a tighter row
pattern for lap siding might be a better fit.
Member Guenther commented on his desire to see good examples of the proposed siding and what it
would look like on the addition.
Chair Knierim requested the Commission discuss standard four.
Member Carlock stated she has no concerns about the removal of the wall. Member M. Dunn and
Chair Knierim concurred.
Chair Knierim requested the Commission discuss standard five. He noted the proposal does not offer
many changes to the original structure. Member M. Dunn stated she believes the standard is met by
the proposal.
Member Rose commented on the scale of the addition not overwhelming the scale of the house and
not changing the view from the street.
Member Guenther discussed the scale of recent projects and noted the Secretary of Interior
standards suggest additions be no larger than 30% of the original footprint whereas this proposal is
68%. He asked how that can be justified in terms of setting precedent for future requests. Mr.
Bertolini replied the 30% threshold is actually not in the federal guidelines; those guidelines call for
additions to be compatible, distinguishable, subordinate, and reversible. He stated the 30% number
is used as a rule of thumb, but is not a requirement.
Member M. Dunn noted design is more critical than size and she cited the Ginger and Baker site as
one with a very large addition, but one that highlights the historic building. She commended this
proposed design, particularly given the inclusion of the hyphen.
Member Guenther concurred the proposed design is acceptable; however, he expressed concern the
Commission’s messaging to the community is not consistent. Chair Knierim suggested placing the
topic on a work session agenda.
Chair Knierim requested the Commission discuss standard nine.
Member M. Dunn asked about the broadness of the western side of the gable stating it seems a bit
out of sorts. Member Guenther concurred and suggested exploring the angle of the gable in the back
to possibly make it consistent with the angles of the historic building. Mr. Aronson discussed the view
of the project from the street and stated the design will aim to be sensitive to the existing roof line.
Members further discussed the roof line and appropriate treatment.
Chair Knierim requested the Commission discuss standard ten regarding reversibility, which he stated
is generally met.
Mr. Aronson asked Mr. Bertolini about the next steps in the process. Mr. Bertolini replied the
drawings should be refined into an actual drawing set with renderings then the project would go
before the Commission as part of a final design review. He also noted there is a DDA easement on
the property that was part of the 2014 rehabilitation.
Public Input
None.
[Timestamp: 6: 32p.m.]
(**Secretary’s Note: Member Nelsen returned at this point in the meeting.)
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6. 825 N COLLEGE- APPEAL OF DETERMINATION OF ELIGIBLITY
DESCRIPTION: This item is to consider the appeal of the determination for the commercial
property at 825 North College Avenue as an “historic resource” under Land
Use Code 3.4.7. On September 7, 2022, in fulfillment of a pre-submittal
requirement for a development review application, staff determined that the
property meets the requirements to be considered an “historic resource”
under the City’s Land Use code based on evidence and conclusions
presented by an independent historic survey contractor in an intensive-level
survey form. When undergoing development review, historic resources
(properties that meet the City’s standards to qualify as a City Landmark) are
subject to the project approval requirements in Fort Collins Land Use Code
Section 3.4.7. Staff decisions may be appealed to the Historic Preservation
Commission.
APPELLANT: Grem Armstrong, GARA LLC (Property Owner)
Claire Havelda, City Attorney’s Office, stated a procedural mistake was made on the City’s part
regarding the publishing of a hearing notice in a newspaper of regional circulation. She asked Grem
Armstrong, appellant, whether he would prefer to have the City correct that error or continue with the
hearing while waiving any objection to the City missing that procedural item. Mr. Armstrong opted to
proceed and acknowledged he will not be able to allege the hearing was unfair in the future.
Staff Report
Jim Bertolini presented the staff report noting this is an appeal of a staff finding determining that the
property at 825 North College is eligible to be considered an historic resource under the City’s
landmark criteria. He showed slides of the property and discussed the three distinct buildings on the
property: a service station, a residence, and a garage. He noted this is a de novo hearing and the
Commission is tasked with providing a determination of eligibility as to whether the property qualifies
as an historic resource.
Mr. Bertolini noted the historic survey of the property was kicked off by the receipt of a development
proposal for a conceptual review in August. He summarized the reasons staff found the property to
be eligible. Regarding the exterior material of the service station, Mr. Bertolini noted it is concrete
block with metal paneling over the top on the front and sides and stucco on the rear. He went on to
outline the history of the property and noted he received a verbal public comment over the phone
from a resident who is opposed to the finding of eligibility.
Applicant Presentation
Grem Armstrong provided the applicant presentation. He discussed his experience with the City in
2005 in developing the Human Bean on North College Avenue. He questioned the qualifications of
the individual at CDOT who determined the property to be historic in 2010. Mr. Bertolini replied
CDOT regularly employs historians and added the main reason CDOT provided a historic survey form
was because there was federal funding being utilized for the redevelopment of the North College
Avenue highway, and as part of that, CDOT has responsibilities under the National Historic
Preservation Act to account for its affects on any historic resources, or any property eligible for the
National Register of Historic Places.
Mr. Armstrong showed photos of the residence on the property and discussed the history of its
additions, windows, and roof. He commented on the proposed project that would raze the buildings
and pave Alpine Street. He stated he does not believe there is any historical integrity in the property
and there is not enough room to incorporate the original gas station in the proposal. He requested
the Commission allow him to move forward with its planned development with some type of
recognition of the history of the property on the new development.
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Commission Questions and Discussion
Member Guenther asked Mr. Bertolini about the CDOT determination of eligibility in 2010. Mr.
Bertolini replied it was completed by an individual who met the federal standards for a preservation
related field and would have been verified by others in the organization.
Member Nelsen requested clarification regarding the integrity of the residence on the site. Mr.
Bertolini replied the questions about integrity were based on the photographs of the home and the
lack of documentation regarding its history.
Member M. Dunn asked about the determination of the 2010 CDOT survey. Mr. Bertolini replied the
survey found the service station and residence to both be potentially eligible for the National Register.
He noted the argument for significance was much clearer for the service station and was not well
supported for the residence.
Member M. Dunn commented on other landmarked service stations on Route 66 and asked about
other service stations that may have been designated nationally.
Member Rose commented on an article published by History Colorado on the oblong box as a service
station.
Member Guenther asked why all the buildings on the property are being considered when the
significance of the residence is not well established. Mr. Bertolini replied the Commission can
consider each building individually.
Member Guenther asked Mr. Armstrong if he owned the property in 2010 when the CDOT survey was
completed. Mr. Armstrong replied in the affirmative and stated he knew nothing about CDOT’s
designation until this year when the conceptual review was completed. He also noted the oblong box
is not porcelain or enamel but is painted metal in this case.
Member M. Dunn stated the CDOT report was written by a trained preservation historian who works
for CDOT and the other people who examined the report were with History Colorado. Mr. Bertolini
confirmed that information and stated that is the typical process under the National Historic
Preservation Act for federal undertakings.
Member Guenther asked if there is a process to notify the property owner that a determination has
been made relative to their property that could have a future impact on its market value. Mr. Bertolini
replied he is unfamiliar with CDOT’s internal policies for notification and noted the City is not
beholden to CDOT’s findings in cases such as this and the 2010 report was only used as a secondary
piece of literature to support the process required in the City Code.
Member Guenther stated he finds the CDOT process to be flawed given the property owner is not at
a minimum informed.
Member Edwards asked if the City still provided its own finding. Mr. Bertolini replied in the
affirmative.
Member Gibson requested clarification regarding the difference between a property being
recommended as being eligible and a property being designated. Mr. Bertolini replied a property that
is found eligible for the development review process is still offered some protections under the Land
Use Code and the responsibility of a developer is to incorporate eligible resources into their project;
however, one potential outcome is still demolition if the developer makes a successful request for a
modification of standards which is not an option for a designated City landmark.
Member M. Dunn stated the best way to avoid these types of surprises is for City Council to provide a
budget item to help provide surveys to inform property owners in advance of the consideration of
selling a property. She stated the ad hoc system wherein the development request triggers the
survey causes these types of surprises.
Member Nelsen asked about Section 106. Mr. Bertolini replied it refers to Section 106 of the National
Historic Preservation Act which requires federal agencies to account for their effects on historic
resources for their undertakings. He noted most CDOT projects involve federal funding of some type
from the Federal Highway Administration.
Mr. Bertolini and members commented on an article from History Colorado that was referenced but
not included in the packet.
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Ms. Havelda suggested the Commission could adjourn to the next hearing time to allow the applicant
time to review the article, or the applicant could waive that right. Mr. Armstrong stated he would not
waive that as the full article was not in the packet.
Ms. Havelda requested the Commission not consider the parts of the article that were not referenced
in the staff report.
Commission Deliberation
Chair Knierim requested the Commission consider whether the property fits the criteria for
significance under events and trends for the service station and the garage.
Member M. Dunn stated she struggles with the significance of the garage for events; however, the
service station seems to fit the criteria based on movement of the community across the river.
Member Guenther, Chair Knierim, and Member Nelsen concurred.
Member Carlock stated she does not necessarily agree with the significance of any of the buildings
under events and trends and the garage should not be considered. Member W. Dunn concurred.
Chair Knierim requested the Commission consider whether the property fits the criteria for
significance under persons and groups for the residence.
Member Guenther stated he does not believe the events and trends were sufficiently established to
warrant designation given the events do not necessarily represent the history of Fort Collins.
Member Carlock stated the residence does not likely have any resemblance to what it looked like
when events took place and it does not have historical significance.
Member M. Dunn expressed concern about the number of shingle houses being lost in Fort Collins;
however, she stated she does not believe this house has the level of significance necessary. She
also stated she is not convinced the argument for historical significance based on people is pivotal
enough to landmark the house. Member Nelsen concurred and shared trepidation regarding the
house’s integrity.
Member Rose concurred with concerns about integrity of the residence.
Chair Knierim agreed the role of the women associated with the residence does not rise to a standard
of being historically pivotal.
Member Carlock commented on the possibility of the placement of a plaque and noted more people
will be made aware of the history of the women from that than from the saving of the house.
Member Rose commented on the lack of feeling and other aspects that keep the residence from
meeting the standards for integrity.
Chair Knierim requested the Commission discuss the architecture of the oblong station.
Member Carlock stated the original 1937 structure was unique; however, the modifications made in
the 1960’s severely changed the original building and keep it from being an example of the oblong
architecture.
Member M. Dunn disagreed and stated the modified structure exactly meets the oblong box
architecture. She stated it is classic and clear to her what the building is based on its structure.
Member Guenther concurred with Member Carlock and stated the architectural significance is only
functional. He stated the site as a whole is blighted, deteriorated, and has not been well maintained
and he is compelled to look toward the future for the site.
Member Rose concurred with Member M. Dunn and stated this station structure is relevant and
eligible and fits exactly the prototypical style of the era in which it was modified.
Member M. Dunn commented on not knowing the future of a property simply because it may be
dilapidated now. She stated important buildings can be considered for landmarking regardless of
whether they are dilapidated.
Chair Knierim concurred with Member M. Dunn and stated this building tells a story. He stated he
believes the station is eligible though the house and garage may not be.
Member M. Dunn commented on the value of preserving car history for future generations.
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Ms. Havelda suggested motions could be made for the station separate from those related to the
house and garage.
Member M. Dunn moved that the Historic Preservation Commission find the residential house
and the accessory garage located at 825 North College Avenue do not meet the eligibility
standards outlined in Section 14-22 of the Fort Collins Municipal Code and are not historic
resources for the purpose of project review under Land Use Code 3.4.7 based on the following
findings of fact: they lack the level of significance and integrity that would be expected.
Member Rose seconded.
Yeas: Guenther, Nelsen, W. Dunn, Edwards, M. Dunn, Rose, Gibson, Carlock and Knierim.
Nays: none.
THE MOTION CARRIED.
(**Secretary’s Note: The Commission took a brief recess at this point in the meeting.)
Chair Knierim requested the Commission address the service station regarding its significance in
terms of events and trends and architecture.
Member Rose commented on the commercial aspect of this kind of a facility weaving itself into history
by the development and evolution of commerce in Fort Collins and the improvement of highways and
transportation. He noted this was the first service station north of the river and stated he believes the
building is eligible.
Member Guenther stated he struggles with this designation and commented on early automotive
advertising and his work in helping Ford develop dealerships over time. However, he stated he
struggles with this particular oblong box being a very important architectural style as many of these
buildings were built with a dispensable mindset.
Member Carlock agreed the introduction of the automobile and the importance it played in the
development of society are very important and legitimate, and looking at the original structures would
have been more around the time when that trend occurred. She stated it was a well-established
pattern by the 1960’s; therefore, it is not as significant of an event and trend. She noted there will be
no ability to redevelop the area if the building is determined to be eligible.
Ms. Havelda reminded the Commission that in this forum, the policy regarding what happens with
future development is not relevant to its consideration.
Member Guenther asked if that consideration is stated somewhere. Ms. Havelda replied City Council
did not see fit to include future considerations of development within the purview of the Historic
Preservation Commission as the Code stands now; however, Council does have the ability to take
into account other policy considerations should a decision be appealed.
Mr. Armstrong noted none of this would have occurred had a development request not been made.
Ms. Havelda noted that is the frustration with the Code that Member M. Dunn discussed earlier. She
suggested Mr. Armstrong make comments to Council because that will inform changes to the Code.
Member M. Dunn moved that the Historic Preservation Commission find the service station at
825 North College Avenue meets the eligibility standards outlined in Section 14-22 of the Fort
Collins Municipal Code and is an historic resource for the purposes of project review under
Land Use Code 3.4.7 based on the fact that it embodies an important evolution in commerce
and transportation in Fort Collins as businesses began to move north of the Poudre River in
part enabled by the growing use of motorized transportation and on the fact that the
architecture is a classic example of the utterly unornate oblong box style of garage
architecture, and finding that the building has integrity to support both aspects of
significance.
Member Rose seconded.
Yeas: Nelsen, W. Dunn, M. Dunn, Rose, Gibson and Knierim. Nays: Guenther, Edwards and
Carlock.
THE MOTION CARRIED.
[Timestamp: 8:25 p.m.]