HomeMy WebLinkAboutLand Use Review Commission - Minutes - 12/08/2022
Shelley La Mastra, Chair
Ian Shuff, Vice Chair
Nathanial Coffman
David Lawton
John McCoy
Taylor Meyer
Katie Vogel
Council Liaison: Shirley Peel
Staff Liaison: Noah Beals
LOCATION:
City Council Chambers
300 LaPorte Avenue
Fort Collins, CO 80521
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REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 8, 2022
8:30 AM
• CALL TO ORDER and ROLL CALL
Commission members Shuff, Lawton, Coffman, and McCoy were present; commission members
Meyer, Vogel, and Chair La Mastra were absent.
• APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETING (November 10, 2022 Minutes)
Lawton made a motion, seconded by Coffman to approve the November 10, 2022, Regular
Hearing Minutes. The motion was adopted unanimously.
• CITIZEN PARTICIPATION (Items Not on the Agenda)
• APPEALS FOR VARIANCE TO THE LAND USE CODE
1. APPEAL ZBA220035
Address: 3044 Reliant St.
Owner/Petitioner: Doug & Janine Fritch
Zoning District: L-M-N
Code Section: 3.5.2(E)(2) & 3.5.2(E)(3)
Project Description:
This is a request for two variances to build a detached pergola:
1) Request to encroach 2 feet into the 8-foot rear setback.
2) Request to encroach 6 feet into the 15-foot corner side setback.
Staff Presentation:
Beals presented slides relevant to the appeal and discussed the variance request, noting that the
property is located in the Mosaic neighborhood, north of Mulberry Ave. and east of Timberline Dr. The
subject property is at the corner of Reliant St. and Dozier Rd.
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The request is to build a pergola in the northeast corner of the property, extending the covered deck
area towards the rear and side property lines. The house currently sits at the required 15-foot side
setback from the property line; currently the house is approximately 21 feet from the rear property line.
Because the side of the property is along a street, the required setback is considered a “street-side”
setback, which requires 15 feet as apposed to an interior side setback which would require a 5-foot
setback.
The proposed element is a pergola, open on all four sides with a semi-transparent roof. The proposed
location would place the pergola up to the 6-foot easement that runs along the back property line, with
a 2-foot encroachment into the rear setback, and nine feet from the side property line.
Looking at a picture of the front of the house, Beals pointed out the side yard where the encroachment
would occur. Beals noted some elements that are allowed in a setback, including a fence of six feet or
smaller (with a conforming fence currently present) which does not have to be transparent; this
existing fence is probably more visually intrusive than the proposed pergola, which is open on all four
sides. The proposed pergola location and existing paver landscaping are visible in pictures of the rear
of the property.
Applicant Presentation:
Applicant representative Scott Hodson, of Grounded Landscape Designs, addressed the commission
and offered comment. Hodson stated that the main reason that a variance is being requested is due to
the limitations of the corner lot; if the 15-foot side setback were maintained, it would not leave any
room for the proposed pergola structure. Other locations in the yard are not feasible and would require
a taller pergola structure. As currently presented, height can be limited to approximately 9 feet and be
more in proportion with a normal pergola. Drainage to the west needs to be maintained, which means
the pergola needs to be placed within the east portion of the yard. To the east of the property is a
large open space, so the pergola would not be blocking others’ view and would be behind the existing
6-foot fence. Neighbors to the northwest and southwest have planted trees for visual blocks already,
and there are no vehicular sight lines that would be blocked. Additionally, the proposed location does
not encroach on any of the existing utility easements.
Commission member Lawton asked Hodson to clarify if the structure would be 9 feet tall, as the
drawings have a height of 8 feet marked. Hodson stated that the 8-foot measurement in the drawing
are from the paver grade to the bottom of the beam (representing clearance under the beam); the
beams are 2 inches x 10 inches, so total height to the top of the beam would be 8 feet 10 inches.
Lawton asked if the pergola would be open at the top; Hodson explained that roof rails are built flush
with the top of the main beams and are spaced at 1 foot 3 inches.
Commission Discussion:
Commission member McCoy stated that he had no objection to the request as submitted and
recommended that the request be approved.
Commission member Coffman agreed with McCoy’s recommendation to approve, noting that the most
visual impact occurs to the east, where any potential future neighbors would be located across the
street. On the rear side, the pergola would extend only 3 feet above the existing fence line;
additionally, existing trees help to obscure the view between adjacent homes.
Commission member Lawton agreed with the recommendation to approve, commenting that because
it is a street-facing corner lot there is a wider setback requirement; the proposed pergola would build
character in the property and the project plan is solid.
Vice-Chair Shuff agreed with the previous comments and noted his appreciation for the applicant’s
presentation in calling out site constraints and thought process behind the proposed location.
Commission Member Lawton made a motion, seconded by Coffman, to APPROVE ZBA220035
for the following reasons: under section 2.10.4(H) the variance is within the condition not
detrimental to the public good; the pergola is open on four sides; the covering is semi-
transparent; the pergola is behind a 6-foot tall privacy fence; the pergola does not encroach
into the existing easements. Therefore, the variance requests will not diverge from the
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standard but in a nominal, inconsequential way, when considered in the context of the
neighborhood, and will continue to advance the purpose of the Land Use Code contained in
Section 1.2.2
Yeas: Shuff, Lawton, Coffman, McCoy Nays: - Absent: La Mastra, Meyer, Vogel
THE MOTION CARRIED, THE ITEM WAS APPROVED
2. APPEAL ZBA220036
Address: 1010 W Mountain Ave.
Owner/Petitioner: Patrick & Lindsey Steele-Idem
Zoning District: N-C-L
Code Section: 4.7(D)(2)(a)(2)
Project Description:
This is a request to not include ceiling height greater than 7 feet 6 inches on the second story of an
accessory building as allowable floor area.
Staff Presentation:
Beals presented slides relevant to the appeal and discussed the variance request, noting that the
property is located on Mountain Ave, between Shields St. and Mack St. The request is to have an
accessory building with habitable space, and for the upper story area not count towards the overall
allowable floor area for an accessory building.
Beals explained that the issue here is that accessory buildings in this zone currently have a limit on
floor area – once the ceiling height of the upper story reaches 7.5 feet or more, that floor area counts
towards the allowable maximum. If ceiling height is lower that 7.5 feet, it does not count towards floor
area.
The applicant has received a building permit to build with a ceiling height less than 7.5 feet and can
technically build the building now as permitted. The request now is to allow ceiling height to be greater
than 7.5 feet. This is a standard that is consistently applied to this type of structure, so granting
approval would be a substantial deviation in how the standard is normally applied.
Plans submitted show a request to modify the ceiling trusses to create a higher ceiling height than
what was originally designed. By so doing, by definition, that floor area increase is almost double the
allowable area for that structure. Floor plans show a main floor consisting of shop/garage area, with a
second floor made up of habitable space.
Beals presented images of the current property, noting the location of driveway off of the street as well
as an existing garage structure that is planned to be demolished. Images of the rear yard show where
the proposed structure would be built.
Commission member Coffman asked if there were any issue with the total allowable floor area for the
lot. Beals responded that there did not appear to be any issues but requested that he clarify with staff
who reviewed the application as well.
Vice-Chair Shuff asked Beals to confirm his understanding that if the ceiling height is maintained under
7.5 feet, floor area does not have to be counted towards the allowable maximum for an accessory
building. Beals confirmed this as accurate. Beals noted that the proposed changes in ceiling height are
all internal, and no change would be visible to the overall shape/exterior of the building.
Commission member Lawton asked Beals to explain the intent of the 7.5-foot height limit. Beals
responded that it aligns more with the building code, as far as the building code is concerned about
habitable space. The limit helps to keep accessory buildings low, and not become a massive/looming
structure in rear yard spaces. Also, it attempts to keep the spaces more oriented toward storage
spaces rather than full carriage house-type structures.
Commission member McCoy asked for confirmation that the overall height of the building has not
changed, merely the internal ceiling height. Beals confirmed that as accurate.
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Commission member Coffman asked another clarifying question regarding the counting of habitable
floor area, asking if the Commission would be considering a variance in the quantity of allowable
space? Can we make a variance regarding a definition? Beals commented that the request is not to
“count” the space but is instead a request to “exceed” the allowable floor area of standard.
Applicant Presentation:
Applicant Patrick Steele-Idem, owner of 1010 W Mountain Ave, addressed the Commission and
offered comment. Steele-Idem stated that the intention of the space is to be an office space, as both
he and his partner are currently working from home and need the extra space to separate their two
working spaces. Steele-Idem stated that they have no intention of creating a space that would be used
as a rental and have signed documents with the City stating as much. The proposed increase in
ceiling height is intended to make the most out of a structure that has already been approved. The
increase in ceiling height would have no effect at all on the exterior dimensions, and the applicants
don’t believe there would be any impact to the neighborhood. Three neighbors have submitted signed
letters expressing their support and/or lack of objections; two of those individuals are present at the
hearing.
Commission member Lawton asked the applicant if they were involved in the original design of the
building; Steele-Idem responded yes. Lawton then asked the applicant if they were ok with the building
as originally designed; Steele-Idem stated that it was “contentious”, and they wanted a higher ceiling
height to begin with. He described trying to convince himself that the 7.5-foot height would be ok, but
after experiencing that height in person, it did not seem like a good long-term solution given the scope
and cost of the project.
Audience Participation:
Audience member Darrell Austin, resident at 1016 W Mountain Ave., addressed the Commission and
offered comment. Austin asked Beals to present the aerial view of the property with the block. Austin
noted the large structure in the back of his property, which he built. He had to address the issue of the
ceiling height as well. Austin noted that no exterior changes are being made; in fact, the applicant is
not asking for any changes in the total floor area but is simply being asked to account for it due to the
ceiling height being raised. Austin voiced his support for the project, and it’s benefit to the subject
property as well as the neighborhood as a whole. This would optimize the investment and value of the
subject property.
Audience member Ann Stewart, neighbor of the applicant to the east side, stated that she had
absolutely no objections to the project and feels that it would add to the character of the neighborhood.
Commission Discussion:
Commission member Lawton asked Beals to return to the aerial view of the block, asking if the large
structure on the South-west corner could be identified for reference. Commission member Coffman
identified the building as the Little on Mountain restaurant and adjacent townhomes. Beals also noted
that there is a zone district change right at that property, as the zone changes from L-M-N to N-C-L.
Beals responded to an earlier question regarding total square footage for the lot after consulting with
zoning staff, noting that the proposed structure would put the allowable floor area for the lot over the
allowable maximum.
Commission member Coffman commented that the proposed change would add quite a bit of
calculated floor area; but looking at the change in design it is hard to argue that it is not nominal and
inconsequential when the building at its effect on the surrounding neighborhood does not appear to
change at all.
Commission member Lawton stated that this type of structure appears to be in line with where the city
is headed, in allowing more habitable space, multi-family dwellings, carriage houses, etc. This is an
area that already has this type of structure. Beyond the code, in actual terms, this isn’t any change in
the exterior or visibility to the neighbors. Lawton asked if we have all of the conditions that this
variance would be for? Beals stated that allowable square footage for the lot is 3,150 sq ft; this would
represent a total area on the lot of 3,502 sq ft. Lawton stated that he feels the request is reasonable,
and representative of where the city is headed anyway.
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Coffman asked if approving this request would turn the structure into a carriage house by code
definition? That is more of a distinction of a full dwelling unit with a kitchen. Beals confirmed this as
accurate, noting that if a kitchen were to be added in the future it would require a full development
review process to turn the structure into a dwelling unit.
Vice-Chair Shuff commented that this request was a bit challenging; this is the way the code has been
written for a while, and many previous applicants have asked for this variance and been denied. There
may be an issue of equity if this request is approved while other similar applications have been denied.
Shuff stated that he has a similar building in his own back yard, which has a ceiling height of 7 feet 5
inches, which conforms to code and feels ok. The issue here is more about the strict and equal
application of the code, rather than the potential impact to the mass of the structure, which the
applicant has shown here would not be changed. As written currently, the code creates a deal wherein
a property owner can maintain additional floor space if and when the ceiling height is maintained at the
lower height required by code.
Commission member McCoy stated his opinion that the change would be insignificant; the exterior of
the building has been permitted and is ok. McCoy acknowledged the points made by Shuff, while at
the same time felt that it was insignificant given the nature of the neighborhood, which has a number
of similar accessory buildings already.
Lawton acknowledged the points made by Shuff, stating that this is the reason the Commission exists,
to interpret and provide discretion to requests like this. If the code were only to be strictly enforced,
there would be no need for the Commission. This request does not appear to have any negative
impact on other individuals but is simply at odds with code. Lawton does not have a problem with the
request given that there would be no changes to the exterior of the structure; Lawton also noted that
the commission needed to be sure to state the variance accurately when putting forth a motion.
Shuff posed the question of if the variance was in fact asking for a higher ceiling or was asking for a
larger area to be allowed on the lot. Lawton asked if it would in fact be two separate variances. McCoy
offered that because the original drawing had a ceiling height below 7 feet 6 inches, the floor space
was not originally considered habitable area. Shuff explained that currently, the land use code says
that when a ceiling is under 7 feet 6 inches, the corresponding floor area does not have to be counted
against the total lot calculation. If the ceiling is higher than allowed, the floor area then technically
needs to be accounted for in the total square footage allowed on the lot.
Coffman commented that it was hard to see how making the change suddenly does not follow the
purpose of the Land Use Code, when it is not changing the use of the building or the lot. It feels a bit
like nitpicking – the numbers appear to show a big increase, but the actual effect on the neighborhood
and land use appears to be nominal.
Shuff alluded to the current status of flux regarding the Land Use Code, and asked Beals how these
standards might change in the new codes. Is the intent for the new code to maintain these same
provisions and definitions? Beals provided some background, noting that the new code was adopted
November 1, 2022; in that time a protest has been filed, and is gathering signatures on order to have
Council act by either repealing the code or putting the item to a vote for referendum. In the new code
(Land Development Code), it does allow for a carriage house. The standard for what is allowed on the
overall lot goes away, and instead we have building forms that dictate how much floor area is allowed
in primary structures and accessory dwelling units. What hasn’t gone away is how much floor area is
allowed on the rear portion of the lot; this is a means to ensure that ADU are still compatible within the
neighborhood. The ADU allowance is 45% of the floor area of the primary building, or 1,000 square
feet, whichever is more restrictive. Beals noted that the proposed structure would exceed 1,000
square feet and may not conform under the new code either.
Commission Member Coffman made a motion, seconded by Lawton, to APPROVE ZBA220036
for the following reasons: the granting of the modification of standard would not be detrimental
to the public good, and the proposal as submitted will not diverge from the standards of the
Land Use Code except in a nominal and inconsequential way when considered in the context
of the neighborhood, and will continue to advance the purposes of the Land Use Code as
contained in Section 1.2.2. This is supported by the lack of change in the exterior shape of the
building, and the effect on neighboring properties.
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Yeas: Lawton, Coffman, McCoy Nays: Shuff Absent: La Mastra, Meyer, Vogel
THE MOTION CARRIED, THE ITEM WAS APPROVED
• ADJOURNMENT – meeting adjourned at 9:26am
Ian Shuff, Vice-Chair Noah Beals, Senior City Planner-Zoning
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