HomeMy WebLinkAboutLand Use Review Commission - Minutes - 11/12/2021
Ralph Shields, Chair
Shelley La Mastra, Vice Chair
David Lawton
John McCoy
Taylor Meyer
Ian Shuff
Butch Stockover
Council Liaison: Shirley Peel
Staff Liaison: Noah Beals
LOCATION:
Virtual Hearing
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REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 12, 2021
8:30 AM
• CALL TO ORDER and ROLL CALL
All commission members except La Mastra and McCoy were present.
• APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETING
Lawton made a motion, seconded by Stockover to approve the October 14, 2021, Minutes. The
motion was adopted unanimously.
• CITIZEN PARTICIPATION -NONE-
• APPEALS FOR VARIANCE TO THE LAND USE CODE
1. APPEAL ZBA210043 – APPROVED
Address: 4424 Denrose Ct.
Owner: McDonald’s USA, LLC (dba Archland Property I LLC)
Petitioner: Jordan Bunch
Zoning District: C-G
Code Section: 3.8.7.4(A)(2)
Project Description:
This is a request is for a variance which will extend the seven-year period in which a nonconforming
sign on a property that has been annexed into the City limits has to comply with the City's regulations.
Specifically, the McDonald’s freestanding sign was required to be brought into compliance by Dec.
20th, 2012 (seven years from the date of annexation). A previous variance was granted in May of
2012, extending the compliance date by an additional 3 years to Dec. 20th, 2015. A variance was
granted again in 2015 to extend the compliance date to Dec. 20th, 2018; this request was approved,
extending the compliance date to 12/20/2021. This request is to extend the compliance date for at
least an additional 3 years to Dec. 20th, 2024.
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Staff Presentation:
Beals presented slides relevant to the appeal and discussed the variance request, noting the property
is at the corner of East Mulberry and SE frontage road. This McDonald’s location was annexed years
ago and did have seven years to come into compliance. They have now requested an extension to
allow their large free-standing sign to remain. Beals noted that some potential problems with the free-
standing sign are that it is currently taller and larger than code allows. Beals described the way some
adjacent properties have been annexed into City limits. One vacant lot is currently in review for
development with the City. Before McDonald’s last request, a sliver of land about three years ago,
began the annexation process for properties west of its boundary. That time frame is coming up and
properties will begin to be annexed into the City. Public outreach efforts have begun.
Beals noted that the sign in question is on NW corner of the McDonald’s parking lot, and currently
rises over sixteen feet vertically. Beals presented pictures of the sign as well as sightlines in the
immediate area, as well as other businesses with signs who have not begun their seven-year process
to come into compliance.
Applicant Presentation:
Applicants Jordan Bunch, representing law firm Holland and Hart, 1800 Broadway Ste 300, Boulder
CO, Todd Luther, franchisee for site, and Vanessa Williams, real estate portfolio manager for
McDonald’s, addressed the Board and agreed to hold the hearing remotely. Bunch shared a
PowerPoint presentation, which included some history of the sign and franchise location. The site and
sign were originally constructed in 2001, prior to annexation, and at that time were in full compliance
with the County. Annexation occurred in 2005, which triggered the seven-year timeframe for
compliance. Extensions have since been granted. Previous LURC Boards have found that the granting
of extensions to be appropriate based on the fact that it had a nominal and inconsequential effect on
the surrounding area, which remains largely commercial. All previous neighborhood conditions that
supported previous variances currently remain. Even if adjacent properties become annexed, they will
have seven years to come into compliance, so an additional three-year extension would be
appropriate. Several proximate properties currently employ large pole signs similar in size and scale to
the McDonald’s sign in question. Due to recent road closures and construction along I -25, access to
McDonald’s has been hindered. Without the large pole sign, the site location would be virtually
invisible from I-25, which currently acts as its main access point. Bunch noted the commitment to
community shown by the franchisee, stating that they own several locations throughout Fort Collins,
and during the COVID-19 pandemic response, this location was able to remain open for business and
did not have to let any employees go. Additionally, this property is an “island” surrounded by non-
annexed properties that don’t have to comply with the same code. This creates a hardship that was
not of the applicant’s own making.
Todd Luther, 144 John Deere Dr, Fort Collins, CO addressed the Board and agreed to hold the
hearing remotely. Luther stated that he moved to Fort Collins in 2008 and has been a local resident
since. He and his family are very invested in the town through work and school. They currently own
five locations with a total of 360 employees (60 of which are at the location under review). Removal of
this sign would result in a decrease of sales and tax revenue.
Audience Participation: -NONE-
Commission Discussion:
Commission member Shuff stated his opinion, based on the history of previous board and existing
context, that there is no issue with granting an additional extension. Annexation does take a long time,
so impact on existing properties would be some ways out.
Commission member Lawton stated his opinion that this sign is no different from what many other
businesses, including other McDonald’s, have in terms of signage. There is time to change signage if
the future if needed given the timeframe of annexation for nearby properties.
Commission member Stockover stated he has no problem whatsoever with granting the extension.
Stockover also stated that despite the generous donations and community work performed by the
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Luther family (which is acknowledged as being appreciated!), those elements are not within the
purview of this Board when making decisions regarding variance requests. Decisions need to be made
solely on the merits of the sign and surround area as it relates to current code.
Chair Shields stated that the context of the surrounding neighborhoods has not significantly changed,
and they do have the support of neighboring businesses. Therefore, Shields would be in support of the
request.
Commission member Stockover asked Beals what sign district this resides in. Beals responded the
sign in currently not in the residential sign district. Stockover questioned if, as Fort Collins grows
towards the highway, are we looking towards creating a highway sign district? Beals answered that as
code was updated, some of that was anticipated as citizens indicated they preferred a lower sign
height.
Commission Member Shuff made a motion, seconded by Meyer to APPROVE ZBA210043 under
section 2.10.4(H) to allow the variance to allow a 60-foot tall, 170 sq. ft. per-side free-standing
sign to remain for another three years. This is based on the findings that the sign would not be
detrimental to the public good, since there are numerous signs of the approximat e same height
and size in close proximity to the McDonald’s sign, which will remain for numerous years; the
neighborhood around the site is predominantly commercial, and have signs that are not up to
code because they reside in the County; removal of the McDonald’s sign will have no
immediate impact on the surrounding area. Therefore, the granting of the modification of
standard would not be detrimental to the public good and the proposal as submitted will not
diverge from the standard except in a nominal, inconsequential way, when considered in the
context of the neighborhood, and will continue to advance the purpose of the Land Use Code
contained in Section 1.2.2.
Yeas: Shuff, Shields, Lawton, Meyer, Stockover Nays: None
THE MOTION CARRIED, THE ITEM WAS APPROVED
2. APPEAL ZBA210044 – APPROVED WITH CONDITION
Address: 110 W Suniga Rd.
Owner/Petitioner: Tucker Jordan
Zoning District: C-S
Code Section: 3.5.3(E)
Project Description:
This is a request to construct a new shed in the backyard on the property line, encroaching 8 feet into
8-foot rear setback and 5 feet into 5-foot left side setback.
Staff Presentation:
Beals presented slides relevant to the appeal and discussed the variance request, noting when E
Suniga went in, the road was changed to W Suniga so the roadway would have the same name as it
crossed College Ave. This property is located in the C-S zone district, which allows for residential uses
but is really designated to commercial services. With that, the residential uses default to the setbacks
included in Art. 3, which describe an eight-foot rear setback and five-foot side setback, with no
min/max floor requirements.
Beals stated the original parcel has since been subdivided into two residential lots. Many of the
surrounding structures were built prior to the setback requirement, so there are a lot of non -conforming
structures currently in place.
The applicant is proposing a shed which is next to the home, with an exterior-facing door. As
proposed, the shed would follow along the existing fence line and exterior home contours. Prior to
approval, staff would recommend at least a three-foot setback which is more inline with building code
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standards. That would also help prevent any runoff coming off the proposed structure from having a
negative impact on neighboring properties.
Applicant Presentation:
Jordan Tucker, 110 W Suniga Rd, Fort Collins, CO addressed the board and agreed to hold the
hearing remotely. Tucker provided the board with pictures of the surrounding neighborhood, indicating
that there are many structures in the area that are currently non-conforming. The proposed shed would
thus be in line with the current character of the neighborhood. Tucker added that when he purchased
the home in 2015, there was a shed existing in the proposed location. That shed was subsequently
taken down based on a requirement from the City during renovation of the carport into a home
addition. The shed area represents a valuable piece of storage space that could be better utilized.
Tucker additionally commented that a current neighbor’s runoff from their garage currently flows to his
property. One goal of placing the proposed shed against the property line within the setback would be
capture and diversion of this runoff water.
Commission member Lawton asked the applicant to describe the intended use of the proposed shed
structure, as well as describing what their hardship would be if setback requirements were enforced.
The applicant described the shed as being used for bicycles, which are their main mode of
transportation. Additionally, the shed would provide a higher degree of safety for belongings. Hardship
has occurred due to loss of previous shed and the ability to safely store belongings such as bikes.
Lawton asked what the effect might be if the applicant was asked to reduce shed space to
accommodate a three-foot setback, for example. Tucker stated that if he were to lose three feet on a
side of the shed, it becomes difficulty to maneuver and move bicycles around. A resulting shed of 6
feet by 6 feet becomes a lot less ideal to store goods.
Chair Shields questioned whether the concrete pad from the previous shed is still in place. The
applicant explained that a portion of the pad is still in place, but a different portion was removed during
the course of renovations. Shields questioned if there was any way to increase the size of the s hed by
pushing the east wall out a bit. Applicant stated this would not be possible, as it would impede an
existing window.
Commission member Shuff asked the applicant if the proposed roof projection shown in plan drawings
has been resolved? It appears to be hanging over an adjacent property line based on drawings. The
applicant indicated that the edge of the roof, even if gutter is installed, would not overhang the
adjacent property, and would come up to his own property line. Drawing plans can be update d to
reflect that detail.
Chair Shields asked the applicant what kind of maintenance they anticipate needing to be performed in
the space between the proposed new structure and existing fence. The applicant explained that in the
past, they used a small, narrow rake to pull leaves and debris from the space between the shed wall
and fence. The applicant was also able to work with a neighbor to access the backside of the area.
Audience Participation: -NONE-
Commission Discussion:
Commission member Shuff commented the site does present some hardships based on existing lot
lines. We are into the minutiae of determining how close can we get to the property line, which was the
genesis for some questions regarding gutter and roof/eave overhang. Giving a foot of set-back may be
a good way to provide space for roof projections, gutter, etc. though it would impact the overall size of
the finished shed.
Commission member Stockover stated that he would defer to the architects present to a bit. If he were
the applicant, he would consider removing the fence altogether, installing a concrete pan for drainage,
and tying the fence line back into the corner of the shed. A narrow metal panel could be installed in a
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way which would be removable for cleaning, mowing, etc. Stocker stated his opinion that having a
small “tunnel” created between two structures is not ideal, as it creates a space for leaves and debris
to collect. Stockover expressed his support for the request, assuming special attention will be paid to
water/drainage mitigation and consideration of fence removal.
Commission member Meyer agreed with Stockover and stated that perhaps the best solution is to
terminate the fence against the corners of the shed. This would eliminate one “gross” condition
wherein one wouldn’t be able to clean between the fence and the side of the shed. As far as the house
is concerned, a concrete pad between the two would be ideal. Building up against the house will
create more problems down the road if moisture can collect, etc. At least six inches is needed for
airflow but isn’t enough for cleaning. Six inches or eighteen inches is still problematic. The homeowner
will need to determine the balance between anticipated maintenance needs and usable storage space.
Commission member Lawton stated he was a bit confused if there are two structures or not. Any open
space created between properties may collect leaves and debris and would warrant a conversation
between neighbors to address that responsibility moving forwa rd. Water mitigation needs to be
thoroughly addressed considering how close to the house the shed would be. Applicant Jordan Tucker
clarified on the other side of the fence, not visible in photos, there is a tree and open space.
Commission member Shuff stated that it is a bit unclear where the property line is. The fence shown in
photos appears to be a double fence and consumes approximately 12-18 inches of space. It may be
helpful to know more about the lot line situation of that side. Applicant Jordan Tucker explained that
the double fence belongs to a neighbor, and they may be amenable to removing a portion of fence to
accommodate water mitigation features. A survey was performed a few years ago, and the property
line pin was exposed. The double fence is within inches of the surveyed line.
Chair Shields stated he is ok with the shed being as close to the property line as possible, if there are
not projections coming off the roof line. Do we give it a foot, or six inches of spac ing? This would
accommodate water runoff and gutter, etc. Do we need a condition?
Commission member Shuff agrees that some amount of space would need to be maintained to keep
the ability to clean, clear, and mitigate the space between shed and home.
Commission Member Shuff made a motion, seconded by Stockover to APPROVE WITH
CONDITION ZBA210044. The variance request is approved with the condition that a minimum 1-
foot setback be maintained between the west side of the property and shed wall to allow for
drainage via surface and/or gutter of the applicant’s choice. Additionally, there are to be no
projections on the north side that extend beyond the property line. This finding is based on
staff reports as well as staff and applicant presentations. Additionally, the variance is not
detrimental to the public good; the 2615 sq ft parcel is small in size, and the square shape of
the lot combined with the size of the existing primary building limit the placement of a new
structure; other residential properties in the are not in compliance in side- and rear-yard
setbacks. Therefore, the variance request may be granted due to a hardship of the lot not
caused by the applicant, and a strict application of the code results in a practical difficulty
upon the applicant.
Noah Beals asked for clarification regarding the Motion made by Shuff. Beals asked if the 1-foot
setback for the wall on the west was intended to allow for roof overhang up to zero inches, with no
condition on the north side. Shuff clarified the motion by stating that on the north side, there can’t be
any projections beyond the property line.
Chair Shields asked the Board for any additional comment; there were no comments offered.
Yeas: Shuff, Shields, Lawton, Meyer, Stockover Nays: None
THE MOTION CARRIED, THE ITEM WAS APPROVED
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*Commission member Stockover requested a five-minute break. Chair Shields granted a five-minute
break at 9:38am. The meeting was resumed at 9:46m.*
3. APPEAL ZBA210045 – APPROVED
Address: 903 W Mountain Ave.
Owner: S & S 230 LLC
Petitioner: Tara Palmer
Zoning District: N-C-L
Code Section: 3.8.11(C)(3)
Project Description:
This is a variance request for an 8-foot-tall fence along the west property line, resulting in fence
totaling 61 feet long and 8 feet tall in both sides’ 5-foot side setbacks (the fence runs east and west
across the width of the lot in middle rear yard).
Staff Presentation:
Beals presented slides relevant to the appeal and discussed the variance request, noting the property
is located near the corner of W Mountain and S Washington. The maximum fence height allowed in
the rear under code is 6 feet. The fence that has been installed is 8 feet tall. A fence in the required
setback area must be 6 feet or less. The request covers the span which is in the setback area. The 8-
foot fence is occurring between the primary structure and an ADU that is currently under construction.
The 8-foot fence portions are visible from the front of the home looking towards the rear of the
property.
Commission member Meyer asks Beals if this is a case of the applicant having built something out of
code and then asking for forgiveness afterwards. Beals responded that yes, that was the case.
Beals explained that any fence over 6 feet requires a building permit to ensure that it meets wind and
snow loads. If the variance is approved, the applicant will need to pull a building permit.
Commission member Lawton asked if the fence was attached to another structure, as depicted in one
of the photos. Beals stated that it appears the fence was up against the house, but there may be a
post between and connect to the two.
Applicant Presentation:
Applicant Tara Palmer, 901 W Mountain Ave, Fort Collins, CO, addressed the board and agreed to
hold the hearing remotely. Palmer clarified that the green building and shorter fence shown in
presentation photos belongs to their neighbor. Their fence buts up against that fence but is not
physically connected to it. The 8-foot fence has been in place for approximately two years since the
applicant purchased the property. The applicant stated their neighbor is totally okay with the fence; he
owns a school bus and other mechanical projects, and most windows on his house are above the 6-
foot fence line. The 8-foot fence provides a bit of privacy between the adjacent neighbors’ homes. The
applicant stated that they own multiple properties in the area, including 901 W Mountain, 903 W
Mountain, and 109 S Washington. Palmer explained all their fence lines that line city property is
maintained at a 6-foot height. Fence lines between structures are now 8-feet. Once the garage is
completed in the alleyway, the entire backyard will not be visible from the alley. That fence will be 6
feet.
Audience Participation: -NONE-
Commission Discussion:
Commission member Stockover stated his opinion that this seems to be a reasonable request,
considering the location of the fence behind the house and in the back of the alley. The neighborhood
is mature and already includes a high degree of screening.
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Chair Shields agreed with the comments made by Stockover. Additionally, he observed 1) the fence
was already in place prior to the applicant owning the property, 2) we have not received any opposition
from adjacent neighbor to the west. Because of the reasons, Shields is in favor of supporting the
variance request.
Commission member Lawton agreed with the previous comments made by Stockover and Shields and
commented that because the fence next to the garage will be reinstalled, only the adjacent neighbor
will really see the 8-foot fence. It is basically invisible to everyone else. Because of these reasons,
Lawton would support the granting of the variance.
Commission member Meyer commented that it would help if the neighbor had provided a letter of
support to add to the documentation, but they also haven’t shown up to speak in opposition of the
request. Meyer agreed with the comments made by Stockover, in that the mature neighborhood
already contains similar elements, and this fence will not stand out.
Commission Member Meyer made a motion, seconded by Shuff to APPROVE ZBA21004 5 for
the following reasons: the granting of the modification of standard would not be detrimental to
the public good. The extended fence height does not run the full length of the property line,
and landscaping along the property line may exceed such heights as well. Therefore, the
variance request as submitted will not diverge from the standard except in a nominal,
inconsequential way, when considered in the context of the neighborhood, and will continue to
advance the purpose of the Land Use Code contained in Section 1.2.2.
Yeas: Shuff, Shields, Lawton, Meyer, Stockover Nays: None
THE MOTION CARRIED, THE ITEM WAS APPROVED
4. APPEAL ZBA210046 – APPROVED
Address: 119 N Shields St.
Owner/Petitioner: Julie Mote
Zoning District: N-C-L
Code Section: 4.7(E)(4)(a)
Project Description:
This is a request to increase the maximum wall height at the North side of the addition to 22.28 feet,
the maximum height allowed is 14 feet.
Staff Presentation:
Beals presented slides relevant to the appeal and discussed the variance request, noting the property
has come forward previously with a request to build an accessory building in the backyard. The current
request is regarding an addition to the primary residence. The requested addition would occur on the
rear of the residence. Based on the current plans, the setback requirement is not being met based on
wall height. The issue is in this zone district, we have solar access preservation to the north. Wall
heights are limited at 14 feet at the minimum setback of five feet. If a taller wall height is desired,
setback must be increased from the north side. This request proposed to encroach at that setback
level. As seen in the elevation drawings, the only element that is not meeting the required wall height
are the faces of the second story dormers, which are aligned flush with the plane of the first story
walls. The wall below is meeting the 14-foot wall height, but the dormers extend that wall height to 22-
plus feet.
Chair Shields asked if the lower eave breaks up the wall height. Beals clarified that no, technically that
element does not break up the wall height.
Applicant Presentation:
Applicant Julie Mote, 119 N Shields St., addressed the board and agreed to hold t he hearing remotely.
Mote explained that although their lot is very long, it is also very narrow. Per their engineer, Gary
Weeks, they were told that they needed to go beyond the footprint of their existing house to maintain
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the structural integrity of the existing brick home. Neighbors to the north are very aware of what is
being proposed and are ok with it.
Audience Participation: -NONE-
Commission Discussion:
Commission member Meyer commented that the request seems very reasonable and is very nominal
and inconsequential. The actual area of shadow that would be created would hardly create a
damaging shade scenario for potential solar gains. There is a potential in the future that adja cent
properties may be modified but given the fact that the request only includes two dormers, it seems
inconsequential.
Commission member Shuff agreed with the comments made by Meyer and added one could actually
put hip roofs on the dormer and thus comply with roof form and negate the need for wall-based
setback. Shuff does not have any issues supporting the request.
Commission member Lawton added his support for the request, noting that the dormers are more of a
technicality than anything else. This wouldn’t really have any impact on that area and is a pretty good
plan.
Commission Member Meyer made a motion, seconded by Shuff to APPROVE ZBA21004 6
for the following reasons: the granting of the modification of standard would not be detrimental
to the public good. The solar access is maintained for the majority of the north property line,
and the increase in wall is limited to a 16-foot length of the property line. Therefore, the
variance request as submitted will not diverge from the standard except in a nominal,
inconsequential way, when considered in the context of the neighborhood, and will continue to
advance the purpose of the Land Use Code contained in Section 1.2.2
Yeas: Shuff, Shields, Lawton, Meyer, Stockover Nays: None
THE MOTION CARRIED, THE ITEM WAS APPROVED
• OTHER BUSINESS
Noah Beals announced that we do have variances for next month so plan to meet. Also, our
December meeting will be our last with Commissioners Shields and Stockover, as they are term
limited. Come January, please be thinking about who would be interested in serving as Chair and Vice
Chair. Because we have two vacancies, we have been reviewing applications but have only received
one. Please let Beals know if you have anyone who may be interested.
• ADJOURNMENT – meeting adjourned at 10:15am
Ralph Shields, Chair Noah Beals, Senior City Planner-Zoning
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