HomeMy WebLinkAboutDisability Advisory Board - Minutes - 08/19/2021Thursday, August 19, 2021, 2021 at 5:30-7:30 p.m.
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DISABILITY ADVISORY BOARD (formerly COD)
REGULAR MEETING – Contact: Carol Thomas, Equal Opportunity & Compliance Manager – 416-4254
1. CALL TO ORDER Terry Schlicting called to order at 5:33pm
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Terry Schlicting, Anna Fuller, Rachel Knox-Stutsman, Mandy Morgan, Marilee
Boylan, Joe Tiner, Linda Drees, Davina Lau
Board Members Absent:
Staff Members Present: Carol Thomas, Seth Lorson
Guests: Cari Brown, (ARC) Kimberly Chambers (LCDHE), Alex Tankersley, Scott
Winograd, Katherine H
3. AGENDA REVIEW
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a. Corrections: 1) Sam Laurence (Moritz)
2) Consultant had advised to not replace using current model of adult changing
tables, but City will look at more reliable options to put in.
b. Marilee motion to approve with corrections, Terry second, approved unanimously
5. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
a. Kimberly Chambers – ignite skiing, Special Olympics, spirit crossing clubhouse
b. Alex Tankersley – participated in RainbowSwim, changing rooms at Mulberry
Pool are often used in gendered ways, but the only accessible stall is in the
family restroom which is always busy with families. Men’s room does not have
curtains in the changing areas at all. At Mulberry, the weight limit on the transfer
chair restricts him from being able to use it. At City Park pool, the transfer chair is
old and doesn’t support his weight either.
Carol: asked Alex to contact her directly for additional information and
communication. Marilee: what does CSU offer? Terry: CSU has gender neutral
locker rooms are separate rooms inside of locker rooms. Also seen at Lifetime
Fitness. Joe: currently collaborating to adapt for folks for disabilities and genders,
has zero slope entry and chair access. Joe provided contact info for access to
CSU pools as a community member. Mandy: similar experiences with both
Mulberry family changing room, and no locker access at City Park Pool.
Alex: no way to shower at City Park Pool.
Marilee: what did self-inventory look like at pools? Would the city help pay for
community members to access CSU pool for more accessibility
Carol: 2016, has a transition plan, outlines and commits resources to brining
facilities into compliance with ADA. Program access is the key, so Epic is the
most accessible to allow programming/swimming to take place. Other pools are
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in the transition plan and will be transitioned further out since Epic does provide
access to swim. The City would likely not pay for CSU use, but the City offers
access through use of Epic.
Terry: with Transition plans, is it strictly done from ADA compliance or an overall
inclusivity lens? There are gender issues here as well, that may not be
considered in ADA compliance.
Carol: Legally, restroom use is based on a person’s gender identity, not gender
expression.
Alex: access is limited to Epic from the city bus
Mandi: concurs that she has to travel further with longer transportation to get to
the only accessible pool.
c. Scott Winograd – has there ever been consideration of “dedicated people
movers” to give access to people for things like city pools, who can do
transportation with shorter notice or more flexibility. (Exists in Sterling, uses
Medicaid)
6. GUEST PRESENTATIONS
a. Seth Lorson and Aaron Iverson: North College MAX Plan – Project Introduction
i. Extended MAX to North College and
ii. Includes info from Transit Master Plan, URA Engagement, NFCBA
Conversations and My Climate Future
iii. MAX Bus Rapid Transit
1. Higher frequency, don’t need a schedule, linear route with
dedicated travel lanes, improved service with level boarding,
additional amenities
iv. Project will explore: bus lanes, bus routes, coordinate routes 8 and 81,
station areas for urban design, access to MAX (bike, pedestrian, and
ADA), land use complements, phasing transit improvements
v. Project Schedule, currently in visioning and existing conditions
Design Options in fall
Adoption of plan
1. Public Involvement
2. Inclusive outreach
3. Meaningful participation
4. Documenting and incorporating public input
5. Flexible and adaptive approach
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vi. QUESTIONS:
1) If the MAX were to come to North College, what concerns do you have?
2) What would you want to avoid or not see happen?
3) What would make the addition of the MAX on North College appealing
to you? Frequency, safety, etc.
• Mandi: would be helpful to not transfer as often when using the 8 on the
weekends. Would like to see past 6pm so people can use those parts in
the community without having to get stuck
Terry: any updates to when TransFort will return to normal hours?
Seth: unsure, and limits may be extended due to delta variant
• Terry: how does this relate to the West Elizabeth Enhanced Travel
Corridor Plan?
Seth: North College is the result of the 2017 plan, West Elizabeth is
ahead of this plan and in the funding stages and a lot closer.
• Terry: would it involve a transfer if you want to continue between current
MAX and on to North College
Seth: ideally, it could look like and express and local, where every other
or every third goes to different end points, ideally you could have one
ride without transfer as an option in this plan.
• Mandy: has experiences with bus drivers that are unwilling or grumpy
for having to strap in wheelchairs when they are behind and have to
stand up to help load her chair
• Katherine H: I would have concerns about safety at the stops for young
adults with disabilities. The services provided at the Blue Spruce
facilities support a diverse population and I would not feel comfortable
with using the MAX transportation without companion support.
Carol: Personal aides do ride free
Seth: they recognize that it would serve different populations and there
may be opportunities for Urban designs (lighting, high activity areas)
that can help with safety. Bullying happens a lot less when there are a
lot of people around.
• Rachel: would have concerns about placement for crossing the street
on North College, there is a lot of faster traffic through there.
Seth: agree that average traffic is faster in that area, average is
currently 36 mph, constraints that it is a state highway and more
shipping trucks travel through there
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• Terry: would this fully merge with College Ave/287?
Seth: may look at individual bus lane or bus only lanes, will be looking
at this in next phase and will return to DAB with options
• Mandy: make sure that stops are not in a grass patch
Seth: will work to make sure that the MAX stations are fully accessible
like the MAX is now
• Joe: placement of stations, when riding the MAX, the Horsetooth station
is tucked back from the street, so riders are not really in the public when
exiting
• Mandy: some automatic bus lifts do not function and the drivers have to
use the pull out lifts
• Terry: the road in Old Town, example Laurel stop headed north, there is
a steep incline to get on bus because of the slant of the bus
• Mandy: many Old Town stops are similar, chairs almost tip backwards
vii. Fcgov.com/NorthCollegeMAX for newletters and more information, Seth
will return two more times during their planning process
7. NEW BUSINESS
a. DIAL-A-TAXI & AFTER-HOURS TRANSPORTATION
i. Mandy: Dial-A-Ride, ends when the last bus ends, July 5th she was
stranded at a gas station until after 11pm, after the gas station had closed,
gas station staff stayed late. She could not get ahold at anyone at ztrip,
and there is no alert to riders that the last trip with finished. There were not
other drivers on the road to help with an ambulatory vehicle to help for
getting her home even without her chair. Was finally able to get a ride with
someone she knew. Ztrip did not communicate what was and wasn’t
available, but dispatch didn’t have any information. She uses this route
regularly. Even dispatch is closed after the last trip that was booked is
finished, as early as 6:30pm.
1. Dial-A-Taxi will now be dispatched right away through the day, but
there is still no answer for after hours times when emergencies
happen.
2. Wheelchairs cannot go with you in an ambulance, there needs to
be a hotline available for these emergencies.
3. Carol: service ends very early, there is a gap in services. City has a
contract with ztrip for Dial-A-Ride, but the City does not have
authority outside of this contract. Dial-A-Ride has to do an RFP
every five years, ztrip was the only one who submitted an RFP, the
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City has a good partnership with them. Ztrip is experiencing a
shortage of drivers (like the city and others).
ii. Effective 7/23, ztrip will dispatch accounts with these type of attributes with
a higher priority, even over VIP rides.
iii. Ztrip and city are analyzing times and routes to identify gaps in service
areas and times
iv. Ztrip will work to increase number of drivers, in June they hired a new
driver recruiter to increase the training and knowledge of these needs, has
brought in additional drivers from within the region to serve this area
v. Ztrip is a contract relationship, City is looking to restructure the fee
schedule and to ensure that ztrip drivers are motivated to accept.
vi. Carol talked with Deputy City Manager about these pieces and when
emergencies happen. Identified underlying factors. Possible direction is to
seek grant for battery charging stations for wheelchairs throughout the
City as one solution for people with battery-powered mobility devices. Will
look to community partners for additional solutions (including Lyft or Uber
accessible vehicles)
vii. Carol: What community partners can we access?
1. Mandy: has had trouble three times in one year due to MAX early
closures and emergencies that put her in dangerous situations
viii. Carol: that is when private options come in, to ensure safe ride home. We
need to identify similar services that can provide help around the clock.
ix. Marilee: Do EMS have accessible vehicles? For arrests or medical
emergencies. Would like to see what other cities do have one?
1. Mandy: her experience is that they cannot take wheelchairs in
ambulances, she was given the option to get to the hospital on her
own or leave her wheelchair on the side of the road
x. Terry: Denver Police does have an accessible vehicle to make arrests
xi. Terry: how do we create accountability to ensure that ztrip follows their
updates?
1. Carol: following up with Kaylee and Katlyn (TransFort). Will send
out any response she gets from Dial-A-Ride to DAB members
xii. Anna: who do we address these issues with?
1. Carol: Mayor Arndt is the DAB council liaison.
xiii. Mandy: what resolutions can be available for Dial-A-Ride covid restrictions
that have been listed which puts multiple riders in a space with each other,
“passenger share” puts vulnerable folks at risk for covid?
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xiv. Terry: what service is Sterling (Scott’s son) using?
1. Scott: it’s through ztrip dispatch and another company, it was
solved through a Larimer County case manager. Sterling is in an
EBD (elderly/blind/deaf) category, which offers certain supports
through outside programs
Goal would be a culture shift, where there is more visibility and more
protection of the most vulnerable. Police is an example, could there be a
culture shift that the police have an accessible (lower priority than crimes
of course) way to transport folks in need since they serve around the clock
already?
8. OLD BUSINESS
a. OCT. NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH
PLANNING
b. PROCLAMATION –email to DAB members
9. ADJORNMENT
a. Announcements:
Terry Schlicting called to adjourn at 7:45. Joe second.
Next meeting will be September 16th, 2021, on zoom.
Cari Brown provided contact info: cbrown@arclc.org